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From the article above:
The State is the largest producer of sugarcane and accounts for around 30 per cent of the country’s total cane production. Two reasons are ascribed for the current reduced yield, the first being drought-like conditions created by a lower-than-normal rainfall last year.

The second is that several farmers found alternatives to sugarcane as the previous two years saw surplus production, and a part of this found no takers. Last year, 760 lt was crushed, and the produce on one lakh-odd acres remained uncrushed, the official said.
Past 3-4 years have been really bad for sugarcane farmers as factories were not able to crush the bumper crops. Many small farmers who could not afford the labor cost of making jaggery had to burn the standing crop. They learnt the lesson and switched to other crops including wheat.


Aiyar says rural india is shining..

India slumps, Bharat rises
A record 15 million new cellphone connections were sold in January, up from 10 million in earlier months, and this smells of rural prosperity (urban centres are largely saturated already). Hero Honda's sales of motorcycles, which focus on rural areas, rose 24% in February :-o . Despite the economic slowdown, sales of fast-moving consumer goods have been rising briskly, especially in small towns and rural areas. This is hard evidence of rural prosperity.
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Wheat prices crash on weight of record crop, higher stocks
As the official rabi arrival season began on Wednesday, wheat prices crashed on the weight of a record crop in the offing and higher buffer stocks.

Prices dropped to Rs 900-925 a quintal in Uttar Pradesh, while in Kota, Rajasthan, it was quoted at Rs 1,020 a quintal, much below the minimum support price (MSP) of Rs 1,080 fixed by the Centre for the current season.

“Wheat is being delivered to mills in Karnataka from Uttar Pradesh at Rs 1,240-1,260 a quintal. Most of the private purchase seems to be taking place there in the absence of any worthwhile procurement by Government agencies,” trade sources said.

...
“The Government can hardly store 20-23 lakh tonnes in Punjab and Haryana, from where 50 per cent of the total procurement takes place,” said the sources. With officials saying procurement will be on as scheduled, a clear picture may be available after two weeks.
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X post from Nukkad on Pesticides causing a disaster in Punjab.
Singha wrote:a visiting south african doc on some ngo mission has found a pocket in faridkot punjab with high rate of
deformed kids. after sending some data to canada, it was found the ground water is polluted with uranium though nobody had any idea punjab valleys having any uranium. must be a localized shall pocket in there.
AjayKK wrote:
The uranium is from phosphate fertiliser
That area is a cancer belt. The train passing through it is called cancer express.

Because of the glorious green revolution ( cancer revolution ) funded by gora amirkhans in the 60s, 70s . The cancer revolution was funded by Ford foundation which gave PAU -punjab agriculture university -$$$ to copy amirkhan techniques of high fertiliser+pesticides.

Now they have recovered 10^n times that $$$ by selling the same cancer products to us.
Imagine the punjab wheat you are eating is from a cancer causing soil :roll:

Instead of adopting 'indian techniques and technology' the agriculture comm. was as usual 'co-opted' to follow amirkhan technique.

Just when we thought the cancer revolution is coming to an end with localisation in punjab (per capita cancer patients in that area is X times nat. avg. ), we now have the 'gene revolution aka cancer causing GM foods, lead by none other than great amirkhani mons-anto. These agrotech terrorist must be sent back or else we can expect the cancer gene to enter dna of children later :eek:
Cancer plays the grim reaper in a remote Punjab village

India's Deadly Chemical Addiction

Punjab harvest of cancer devastation

Census of farmer suicides in Punjab

Cancer express

And on the next big trouble -Monsanto .
AjayKK wrote:...
Shri Pm in 2005 has signed indo-us knowledge initiative in agriculture which is the license to do as they want as far as GM is concerned.

First, is the Dept. of Agro Research, http://dare.nic.in/usa.htm.
Click the 'board members' document and read the representatives.
Read the documents that concern with the meetings.

The basic issue is Monsanto buying up local seed companies all over the world, stopping local production of seeds and pushing their GM seeds. In India they bought Maharashtra Hybrid Seeds Company (http://www.mahyco.com/index.html )and now sell only modified seeds. So local seeds which cost ~400/bag are replaced by GM ones which cost ~1500-2000 bag.

After you buy the GM seeds, you MUST buy the pesticide else you will get this gift from Monsanto. the pesticide costs much more than any local pesticide.

After the Gm companies have 'captured'the agri scene by supplying patented seeds, pesticides and fertilisers, we have the burden of subsidy.
While the UPA congratulates itself on marginally improved production of cereals, we remain desperately import dependent for oilseeds and pulses. Thus, claims of a breakthrough in agriculture are totally misleading.

Even the tiny increase in production of cereals has been achieved at an enormous cost. The fertilizer subsidy bill, upwards of Rs one lakh crore in the current fiscal five times the 2005 level is touted as evidence of the UPAs commitment to farmers. But this giant expenditure is unlikely to win any votes from farmers who have been complaining of a shortage of fertilizers in recent years and feel the subsidy benefits industry rather than cultivators. The fertiliser manufacturers are making money, not us, says Jigesh, a farmer of Kheda district in Gujarat.

The UPA years have seen no real increase in farm incomes or alleviation of rural distress.


Just imagine the perfidy of the gov. who pay ONE LAKH CRORE every year :shock: to subsidise companies! If this amount was used to improve agriculture irrigation and promotion of organic seeds, fertilisers and neem oil , the sector can be turned in less than a Lok sabha five years.

Finally some links.

one , two , three , four ,five , six
And finally, two hour video - Controlling our food
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X post from Nukkad on Pesticides causing disasters in Kerala, Punjab, and AP:

Must watch this documentary its directed by Ramesh Menon, a TERI Production released in 2004

Slow Poisoning of India

How Swargh like as in heaven in hindi (real name of a place in Kerala) turned into a living narakh when endosulfan was ariely sprayed for cash crop cashew. Also covered how pesticides were used in Punjabs green revolution. India is the largest user of endosulfan in world today.

Good to know that along with neem and castor cake, papaya and custard apple leaves are also good natural pesticides.
Summary
Documentry on how the use of Endosulfan (pesticide) has created widespread congential abnormalities in the children of Kochinim, Kerala. Also on how the rampant use of fertilizers and pesticides in decimating the ecology and how farmers are moving back to organic farming to ensure sustained development
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Wanted, Nano-like solutions for Indian farming!

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/200 ... 470800.htm
It is election time once again and various political parties are doing their calculations on how the biggest group of voters — those engaged in agriculture in some form or the other — will vote. The UPA government did its bit for the farmer though the mega loan waiver in the last Budget. But despite schemes and sops, at any period of time, those engaged in farming in India are an unhappy lot. A chat with a few people involved in agricultural activity in and aro und Coimbatore drove home, once again, that the biggest problem plaguing agriculture is the shortage of labour.

A few weeks ago, when visiting the textile towns of Tirupur and Karur in this textile belt, one had recorded the huge loss of jobs in this sector as exporters of knitwear and home-mades were getting few or no orders from buyers in the US and Europe. To the obvious question where those who had lost their jobs gone, the standard reply was: “Back to their villages and to agriculture.”

But guess what? Agricultural activity, particularly working on the farms, continues to be shunned by most young people, even during these recessionary times.
Labour shortage

Senthilkumar, who owns 40 acres of land about 40 km from Coimbatore city, says the biggest problem he faces as a farmer in Tamil Nadu today is shortage of labour. “All we are able to get are women above the age of 40-45 years, and they are not able to put in the required physical work. Because of labour shortage I am forced to go in for short-term crops such as onions, chillies, brinjal, etc.”

He says farmers like him face a perennial shortage of labour as aspirations among youngsters have gone up. “One aspect is that agricultural workers cannot wear pants; and the other thing is that young men today are no longer prepared to work for long hours in the sun.” Ideally they want to work in an office or “some kind of factory/mill. They even prefer to work as coolies in urban areas where a job may open up in some factory or mill”.

Mr B. Rajasekar, Proprietor of Sri Uzhavan Agro Marketing, owns about 40 acres of land in Sancharimalai, about 40 km from Coimbatore, where he grows coconut, maize, beetroot and onions. He says there is little charm left in agriculture today, even for landowners, leave alone farm labourers.

“Let’s face it, agriculture as a profession lost its charm several years ago; for the workers there is no job guarantee round the year. You mentioned loss of thousand of jobs in Tirupur but do you know that many of them will simply roam around in search of another job in a city, rather than return to their villages to undertake harsh labour on the fields?”

He adds that the rural employment guarantee scheme offers a daily wage of Rs 80, and they get that amount after “working for only a few hours, so why should they come and work in agriculture?”

Adds Mr Senthilkumar: “To add to our problems our politicians have started giving them 20-25 kg of rice every month at Rs 1or 2, not to mention free colour TV and gas connections, so why should people feel the need to work on farms?”

So how do farmers like him manage?

“Right now, I get workers from remote villages, build huts for them on my land and manage my farming activities. I pay them a daily wage Rs 70, but how long these people will stay I don’t know,” he says.

He adds that despite recession, many textile units in Tamil Nadu continued to provide transport to workers from nearby villages: “They are picked up in air-conditioned video coaches. I’m told that they are paid only around Rs 60 a day but they have the pride of travelling in a comfortable coach, and are happy to do that work.”

He concedes that the government has come out with many welfare schemes for the farm sector “but the problem is in delivery and the corruption involved at various stages.”
Profitability issues

Mr Rajasekar explains that this belt in Tamil Nadu is known for coconut cultivation, but it is not profitable for the farmers to sell coconuts. But if they could contract their trees for toddy tapping, which is not allowed in Tamil Nadu, their income would go up several-fold. He says traditionally a coconut farmer in Tamil Nadu gets between Rs 250-500 annually for every coconut tree, depending on the yield. But in Kerala, where toddy-making is legal, a coconut farmer can earn up to Rs 210 per tree every month.

The result, he adds, is that toddy-making is going on, though illegally, which cuts their income. One of the demands of the farmers from the State government is to legalise toddy-tapping, and this is bound to become an election issue this time.

Another issue before farmers, points out Mr B. Manigandan, Director, Victus Laboratories India, which produces nutrients and other products for the agri sector, is the age-old problem of not upgrading to better paying crops, such as fruits which could bring gains from the the export market. Giving the example of Western Maharashtra, where such districts as Sholapur and Nashik had gone in for profitable fruit farming, he said an organised attempt was needed to educate farmers and help upgrade the value of their produce.

Adds Mr Rajasekar: “For the last 15 years the market price of copra has remained between Rs 30 and 35. But the price of fruits has gone up steeply. Small wonder that none of our children want to go into agriculture.”
Give us a Nano-like solution

Mr Manigandan puts his finger right on the problem when he says that unfortunately agricultural research has not travelled from the research labs to the farms.

“There is absolutely no connect between research and the field; if at all there is some connect, it might be for the huge farms.”

What is sorely required is research that can be applied to small and medium farms as their owners cannot invest in technology. “For instance, we need innovations and equipment that would suit 5-10 acre farms. Actually, we need a Nano-like solution in agriculture.”

Well, till a Ratan Tata-like figure steps into agriculture, this might remain wishful thinking. Meanwhile, Mr Manigandan relates the story of a family friend who can’t get a bride “because he is in agriculture. He is a graduate and very good at using technology in farming and hence gets excellent yields. And yet he can’t get a girl; obviously, people think that farming is a gamble.”

Sighs Rajasekar: “The balance-sheet is not balanced in agriculture.” Agreeing with him is Dr M. R. Sivasami, a medical doctor and President of the Tamizhaga Agricultural Association, which has a membership of 10,000 farmers. He has 10 acres of land, has been a farmer for a few decades and has come to the conclusion that “a farmer always takes a huge risk. Now, things have come to such a head, that if you go in for a crop, you are sure to lose. But if you keep your land fallow, you can escape the loss.”

Term this hyperbole or not, more and more farmers are feeling let down, not only by the government but by their consumers too.

“Food prices are going up, but farmers are not benefiting. Our input costs have gone up, schemes meant to benefit us don’t really help; if anybody in India has a choice, he certainly won’t choose agriculture,” he adds.
(Response may be sent to rasheeda@thehindu.co.in)
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Germany Bans Cultivation of GM Corn

Germany has banned the cultivation of GM corn, claiming that MON 810 is dangerous for the environment. But that argument might not stand up in court and Berlin could face fines totalling millions of euros if American multinational Monsanto decides to challenge the prohibition on its seed.

The sowing season may be just around the corner, but this year German farmers will not be planting gentically modified crops: German Agriculture Minister Ilse Aigner announced Tuesday she was banning the cultivation of GM corn in Germany.

Greenpeace activists take a sample from a Monsanto test site near Borken in North Rhine-Westphalia: The GM crop MON 810 has been banned in Germany.
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Greenpeace activists take a sample from a Monsanto test site near Borken in North Rhine-Westphalia: The GM crop MON 810 has been banned in Germany.

Under the new regulations, the cultivation of MON 810, a GM corn produced by the American biotech giant Monsanto, will be prohibited in Germany, as will the sale of its seed. Aigner told reporters Tuesday she had legitimate reasons to believe that MON 810 posed "a danger to the environment," a position which she said the Environment Ministry also supported. In taking the step, Aigner is taking advantage of a clause in EU law which allows individual countries to impose such bans.

"Contrary to assertions stating otherwise, my decision is not politically motivated," Aigner said, referring to reports that she had come under pressure to impose a ban from within her party, the conservative Bavaria-based Christian Social Union. She stressed that the ban should be understood as an "individual case" and not as a statement of principle regarding future policy relating to genetic engineering.

Greenpeace and Friends of the Earth Germany (BUND) both welcomed the ban. Greenpeace's genetic engineering expert, Stephanie Töwe, said the decision was long overdue, explaining that numerous scientific studies demonstrated that GM corn was a danger to the environment.

However the ban could prove costly for the German government. Experts in Aigner's ministry recently told SPIEGEL that it will be hard to prove conclusively that MON 810 damages the environment, which could enable Monsanto to win a court case opposing the ban and potentially expose the government to €6-7 million ($7.9-9.2 million) in damages.

Monsanto said Tuesday that it would look into the question of whether it would take legal proceedings as quickly as possible. Andreas Thierfelder, spokesman for Monsanto Germany, said the matter was very urgent as the planting season was just about to start.

Aigner has recently come under pressure from Bavaria to ban GM corn. Bavaria's Environment Minister Markus Söder wants to turn Germany into a "GM food-free zone." Environmental groups have long called for a ban on GM crops in Germany, arguing that they pose a danger to plants and animals.

However, supporters of genetic engineering argue that a ban could prompt research companies and institutes to pull up stakes and leave Germany. Wolfgang Herrmann, president of Munich's Technical University, has said that a prohibition risks precipitating "an exodus of researchers."

The issue has exposed a split between Bavaria's CSU and its larger sister party, Angela Merkel's Christian Democratic Union. Katherina Reiche, deputy chairwoman of the CDU/CSU's parliamentary group, has complained of the "CSU's irresponsible, cheap propaganda," claiming that it could harm German industry. She argued that anti-GM sentiment was one reason a subsidiary of the German chemical giant Bayer decided to moved its facilities for genetic engineering from Potsdam, near Berlin, to Belgium.

MON 810 was approved for cultivation in Europe by the European Union in 1998 and is currently the only GM crop which can be grown in Germany. The plant produces a toxin to fight off a certain pest, the voracious larvae of the corn borer moth. The crop was due to be planted this year on a total area of around 3,600 hectares (8,896 acres) in Germany. The cultivation of MON 810 is already banned in five other EU member states, namely Austria, Hungary, Greece, France and Luxembourg.

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* http://www.spiegel.de/international/ger ... 13,00.html
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e-Sagu: An IT based Personalized Agro-Advisory System

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFvGvr3vzIw

Related links : http://www.esagu.in/

http://www.iiit.net/~pkreddy/ - Principal investigator for the project/ Project description in detail here
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India and the green revolution
By Vikram Sarabhai

http://books.google.com/books?id=SwsAAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA8
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There is another side to modern agriculture, which is becoming manifest in the West. I think it is a slow process and cannot recognise it unless observed carefully what is happening over a period of time. No doubt, the modern agricultural practices has improved crop yield many times and reduced inefficiencies in the farming practices to help to feed the hungry world. However, it has gone to become monopolist companies, which just squeeze everything out of Mother Nature and destroying the diversity life that evolved over millions of years.

There was a presentation in BBC radio 4 in 2007 “Save our seeds” by Jonathan Porritt. He researched and talked about so many rice species that existed in the world than we were aware, including wild ones. But due to the nature of modern farming they are being lost forever, as there is an emphasis on single better yield rice variety is farmed extensively at the moment. At some point, it is quite possible that some disease or pest will emerge that can destroy this monocrop fields, then the food security of the world will be seriously threatened. Just look at the epidemics of bird and swine flu for e.g., that are coming up now which is the effect of over intense farming processes. This is where diversity of the other rice varieties will be of rescue but sadly many of them will be lost by then.

I emailed BBC as this programme is not currently unavailable to listen again, and if fact offered to pay for a copy of it. But due to their copyright reasons BBC would not do so. I cannot understand that this topic that has larger public interest is held under wraps with copyright laws.

Another example is the Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD) of the honeybees in the EU and USA. Bee keepers keep a specific species and transport them across the continent, this practice is more prevalent in USA where they are shipped from state to state or even to the opposite coast. This is to pollinate the miles and miles of monocrops like apples, almonds etc, that are owned by the MNCs and other big players. A friend told me that some farms could be as big as Belgium in size. This has 2 effects; firstly large monocrop farms have replaced the wilderness where other plant species and wild bees and other insects used to share the space. They are probably lost forever. The wilder plant species flower at different intervals throughout the year (or most of the year) providing various and constant food for the wild bees as opposed to 2-4 weeks a in year of flowering in the monocrop farms. Secondly, the commercial bees are dying recently for unknown reasons with loss of 30-80% of the colonies, known as CCD. If the beekeepers lose their bees altogether, then as 50% or more of the present food production in the West is dependent on these bees will be in trouble. This CCD has been attributed to stress that the bees are subjected to with their transportation, which is not in line with natural process, use of pesticides, parasitic mites and even electromagnetic radiations from mobiles, sonar equipments, Wi-Fi devices etc, but the actual reason is still not clear.

India is doing a catching up game in agriculture with the West by following their methods but it would be useful to learn from where they have gone wrong. We as a human race are moving farther away from the nature’s way of life and this is going to haunt us later if not sooner. Our agricultural practices and food habits has dramatically changed in the last 10 decades. Till then, nature had its way of doing things. There are warning signs already on the horizon. Instead of looking at how much profit companies can make we should take a deeper look at what it does to the nature in the long term. Our real wealth is the variety of flora and fauna that evolved over time and it is high time that we recognise this and make an attempt to preserve them before they are lost.
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something very esoteric

Story of the 'Bidi'

http://www.ias.ac.in/currsci/may252009/1335.pdf
The bidi received a
further impetus when the educated class
started smoking it instead of cigarettes,
to show solidarity to the Swadeshi movement.
Several Muslim leaders like Hassan
Imam openly supported the bidi and
said, ‘Foreign cigarettes are haraam
(illict), use bidis instead of cigarettes’8.
Around World War II, the bidi industry
became an important and widespread
cottage industry in urban shanties and
rural areas9. It was a part of the rations of
the Indian jawan when he went to fight
in foreign soils. The outbreak of World
War II saw an increase in the production
of bidis, which also accompanied the
Indian soldiers. The demand for bidis
increased at such a fast rate that the
opening of new production centres
became an everyday activity for bidi
manufacturers. Bidi gained widespread
social acceptance in a short period and
the industry became a role model for
small Indian businesses.
By the 1960s, with the coming of
the powerloom, many weavers were left
without jobs and were forced to migrate
back from these textile centres. Many of
them found employment in the bidi industry
in the Telangana region, Andhra
Pradesh. More than 60% of the bidi
workers in this region hail from the displaced
weaver community (the Padmashalis),
while the others are Dalits and
Muslims10
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I was doing some research on Protein consumption in India and came across some facts which left me dumb found.
1) Avg. Protein consumption in India is < 10g/day. World Avg (inc. Africa) is > 25g/day. Developed countries avg is > 50g/day.
2) Peanuts (Ground nuts) is one of the protein rich source(25%/wt). India is one of the largest producer of the peanuts. Guess what we do with it. We extract oil out of it and sell the cake to other countries or to cattle industry.
3) Whole wheat and rice has a rich source vitmain and protein in the germ. We gently remove the nutritous germ and make oil out of it and discard the nutritious part of the food to cattle.
4) When rice and wheat was processed with old methods the wheat flour and dehusked rice retained majority of their nutrients. With industrialization and modernization the people are left with no option to eat only nutrient less rice and wheat.
5) If the situation continues the effect of lack of essential nutrients will come at the old age. The population will be left with living on food supplements of essntial nutrients, which are essentially stripped out of the common food.
6) Already companies started selling vitamin E (E-Vion) an important nutrient. This is nothing but the extract of the wheat germ oil.
7) I suggest an education program to be carried out on the importance of eating whole foods. The government whould force 'atta' and 'flour' companies to add essential nutrients back after processing rice and wheat, as being done in western countries. Govt should suggest ways or formulate policies to increase the utilization of proteins to a greater extent.
J.M.Ts.
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A 'time bomb' for world wheat crop
The Ug99 fungus, called stem rust, could wipe out more than 80% of the world's wheat as it spreads from Africa, scientists fear. The race is on to breed resistant plants before it reaches the U.S.
Crop scientists fear the Ug99 fungus could wipe out more than 80% of worldwide wheat crops as it spreads from eastern Africa. It has already jumped the Red Sea and traveled as far as Iran. Experts say it is poised to enter the breadbasket of northern India and Pakistan, and the wind will inevitably carry it to Russia, China and even North America -- if it doesn't hitch a ride with people first.
We humans depend mainly on 3 grasses. Rice and Wheat are the two. I forget the other one mentioned by an expert. Billions have come to depend on these and obviously any threat to even one of them is scary. So is this a real threat, or is this Corporations' tactics to make farmers buy "resistant seeds" from them?

Humans have come a long way...from a hunter-gatherer society to Corporation-dependent society. We don't realize how frail we are and how we are just moments away from large scale devastation.
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i hope that our govt comes up with crop insurance and this will give relief to our poor people
and i hope this should happen quickly
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Are there people here involved in Aquaculture and commercial fisheries or have solid contacts in that field?
I need to talk to people involved in commercial (preferably fresh water fisheries).

Commercial fisheries face 3 major problems
1. Supply of oxygen to the Aquatic fauna such as Fish, Prawns, Shrimp, Crab, Lobster etc
it is well known that amount of aquatic biomass that can be sustained is limited by oxygen transfer rates
2. Removal of waste products by the same (again removal of waste products need oxygen)
again needs oxygen for metabolism of fish excreta via microorganisms
3. Managing disease due to high concentration of waste which leads to pathogens
currently they solve it using large amounts of antibiotics.

Over the years some of my research contacts have developed extremely good technology for providing an energy efficient way to provide oxygen to water that outperforms even industrial level oxygen spargers used in the Pharma industry at much lower energy costs. I would like to find people willing to implement this solution in their fish farms to get superior yields with other advantages such as low/nil requirements of antibiotics etc.

if there any leads let me know... thanks...
I am hoping us SDREs will get some more cheap fish to eat and improve protein intake... thereby becoming TDFEs soon :)
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My observations of people from around the world have lead me to conclude...

Good looking and strong people are the ones that consume more protein. Sickly and frail people seem to come from societies that consume predominantly cheap carbs.


sivabala wrote:I was doing some research on Protein consumption in India and came across some facts which left me dumb found.
1) Avg. Protein consumption in India is < 10g/day. World Avg (inc. Africa) is > 25g/day. Developed countries avg is > 50g/day.
2) Peanuts (Ground nuts) is one of the protein rich source(25%/wt). India is one of the largest producer of the peanuts. Guess what we do with it. We extract oil out of it and sell the cake to other countries or to cattle industry.
3) Whole wheat and rice has a rich source vitmain and protein in the germ. We gently remove the nutritous germ and make oil out of it and discard the nutritious part of the food to cattle.
4) When rice and wheat was processed with old methods the wheat flour and dehusked rice retained majority of their nutrients. With industrialization and modernization the people are left with no option to eat only nutrient less rice and wheat.
5) If the situation continues the effect of lack of essential nutrients will come at the old age. The population will be left with living on food supplements of essntial nutrients, which are essentially stripped out of the common food.
6) Already companies started selling vitamin E (E-Vion) an important nutrient. This is nothing but the extract of the wheat germ oil.
7) I suggest an education program to be carried out on the importance of eating whole foods. The government whould force 'atta' and 'flour' companies to add essential nutrients back after processing rice and wheat, as being done in western countries. Govt should suggest ways or formulate policies to increase the utilization of proteins to a greater extent.
J.M.Ts.
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Good looking and strong people are the ones that consume more protein. Sickly and frail people seem to come from societies that consume predominantly cheap carbs.
People from around the world have

Meat and Potatoes
Meat and Rice
Meat and Bread

while people from India have
Pulses and Rice
Pulses and Bread
and may be milk based products
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Thus desi genes have evolved into eating more and more carbs and thus diabetes, heart disease., etc.
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Vriksh wrote:Are there people here involved in Aquaculture and commercial fisheries or have solid contacts in that field?
I need to talk to people involved in commercial (preferably fresh water fisheries).

Over the years some of my research contacts have developed extremely good technology for providing an energy efficient way to provide oxygen to water that outperforms even industrial level oxygen spargers used in the Pharma industry at much lower energy costs. I would like to find people willing to implement this solution in their fish farms to get superior yields with other advantages such as low/nil requirements of antibiotics etc.

if there any leads let me know...
Hi Vriksh,
Though I am not directly attached with the agro industry, I request you to publish whatever you know in online forums like this. It would be great, if you could write about what you know in a couple of posts. So that some new visitors can utlize the knowledge. Thanks.
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^^^Animals sources of proteins like meats,milk,chesse,fish,fowl and eggs are contain all three essential amino acids(EAA) in sufficiant amount.Moreever thier biological value and digestibility is high.
Vegetable proteins like pulses,cerals.beans,oil seeds and nuts proteins. These are poor in EAA.
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>>>Over the years some of my research contacts have developed extremely good technology for providing an energy efficient way to provide oxygen to water that outperforms even industrial level oxygen spargers used in the Pharma industry at much lower energy costs.

Though not in aqua culture, I face this problem of providing oxygen to water efficiently at low cost. I am connected with the water / waste water treatment industry. We use industrial blowers for this purpose as of now. If there are interesting new methods, would like to know about it.
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Chandan Mitra's column in dailypioneer.com:

Are we all at sea?
Chandan Mitra

India is parched and thirsty. And if the delayed monsoon turns out to be less than bountiful, as feared, the country will soon be hungry too. It is no good gloating over the allegedly record buffer stocks lying in godowns. Experience suggests much of that would end up being unfit for human consumption. Remember the time Saddam Hussein turned back Indian ships laden with wheat from Iraqi ports saying his people would rather starve than be fed such poor quality grain? Our storage systems are so bad that much of the buffer stock rots inside sub-standard sacks or gets eaten away by rodents. Besides, even assuming we manage to tide over the impending food scarcity this year by offloading whatever is there in warehouses, the anticipated dip in foodgrain production would mean little would be available for the next.

A delayed and below average monsoon spells trouble not only on the food front but also for water availability. Alarm bells have been ringing over the past decade about the severe depletion in groundwater resources on account of overexploitation. Recent reports suggest that the problem is not confined to North and Central India; it is equally serious in the South and is beginning to affect even the East and North-East.

Further, the lack of snowfall last winter has adversely impacted flow of water in perennial rivers of the North, while a failed monsoon this year will surely trigger the drying up of rain-fed rivers in peninsular India. Apart from impacting agriculture, the resulting depletion of reservoir levels leads to a downturn in electricity generation. Authorities of several major hydroelectric projects are watching the slow progress of the monsoon with trepidation as they could be facing shutdown if rains don’t arrive by the end of this month. Lakes and local water bodies are also going dry at frightening speed under the scorching rays of an unrelenting sun.

Two points need to be noted at the outset. Nature had evidently not accounted for the kind of population explosion that the sub-continent has experienced since Independence. I remember a nationalist song by Atul Prosad Sen that we were taught in the Bengali-medium school I attended in Hooghly. Penned in the 1920s, one of its lines was “Kandichhe taba charana-taley, tringshati koti nara-nari go (O Mother! 30 crore men and women are weeping at your feet [seeking liberation from foreign rule])”. That was the estimated population of undivided India less than a century ago. Today the corresponding figure is closer to 150 crore, with India alone accounting for 112! Arguably, since Sen’s days, agricultural techniques and productivity have improved vastly, irrigation facilities are substantially better and double or triple cropping is the norm rather than the exception. Also, if China can feed its 130 crore people why can’t India given that we have more arable land than them?

That brings me to the second point. India’s food and water crisis is essentially man-made in the sense that faulty or inadequate planning lies at its root. As a people Indians are incapable of strategic planning tending to go along with the dominant trend of the times without focusing on the country’s specifics or likely demands of the future. True, the Green Revolution of the late 60s significantly altered the agricultural map of India, made Punjab/Haryana the country’s granary, while the Rice Revolution a decade later enabled Eastern India to eliminate chronic hunger. But I do not recall any significant innovations having been made since; in fact, we are continuously coping with problems created by imported models and merely tinkering with foreign seeds or strands of food crops originating in Mexico, Argentina or Taiwan. Irrigation projects have been built assuming sustained and unvarying availability of water — an assumption that never factored in poor rain or snowfall, leave alone anticipate climate change or retreating Himalayan glaciers.

Drip irrigation, which should have been extensively promoted and drought-resistant crop strands that should have been widely popularised, are just about coming into vogue now, and that too fitfully. Meanwhile, we decided to “solve” our drinking water problem by allowing humongous quantities of this life-giving liquid to be extracted free of cost through deep borewells and sold as packaged water at a high price. Urban India took to this as fish to water and now much of rural India too lives on it. Both India and Bharat have lived in denial about water shortage for decades. The subject hardly figures in the nation’s intellectual agenda, seminars occasionally held to provide a forum to technocrats to regurgitate received wisdom notwithstanding. Water riots have become a recurrent feature in summer but they fade from media glare as soon as the monsoon arrives bringing temporary respite from severity of the shortage.

I am no expert, but I nurse a mounting fear that India will be among the biggest victims of climate change among major economies of the world. Our dependence of the monsoon is far greater than that of other Asian countries and that dependence is not confined to agriculture. India’s economy and culture revolves on this annual phenomenon because nearly nine months out of every 12 are dry in most parts of the country. Although the grand vision to link India’s rivers, resurrected by Atal Bihari Vajpayee, has been churlishly scrapped by the UPA, I doubt if that alone can offer a permanent solution. With even rivers in the North-East no longer brimming over with surplus water and China’s scary plan to divert the flow of Brahmaputra to its dry northern region, the basic assumption underlying the river-linking project could become questionable.

It may be time to give a serious look at Israel’s success in harnessing seawater for agricultural use. Agreed, desalination is a hugely expensive proposition, which is why it has not been widely employed worldwide. But Israel has shown it is possible to use desalinated seawater to turn barren deserts into agriculturally prosperous regions by combining water-conservation techniques with appropriate cropping patterns. India is too vast a country for this to become a panacea for water shortage. But given that we will be the worst affected by climate change, it is essential that human and material resources are pledged to discover cheaper and more practical methods of desalination.

When I visited Lakshadweep some years ago, officials told me about an indigenously developed process to desalinate seawater, which had been commissioned by the Government as a pilot project. Apparently the experiment was successful, resulting in conversion of seawater into potable water at 10 percent of the prevailing cost. Being a pilot project, its scale was small, but I wonder whether the Government has since given approval for trials on a larger scale. If this or similar methods can be successfully evolved, carrying desalinated seawater into the interiors through pipelines may not remain a pipedream. After all, if crude and gas can be transported through underground pipes across thousands of kilometers why can’t a basic necessity like water?
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When I visited Lakshadweep some years ago, officials told me about an indigenously developed process to desalinate seawater, which had been commissioned by the Government as a pilot project. Apparently the experiment was successful, resulting in conversion of seawater into potable water at 10 percent of the prevailing cost. Being a pilot project, its scale was small, but I wonder whether the Government has since given approval for trials on a larger scale. If this or similar methods can be successfully evolved, carrying desalinated seawater into the interiors through pipelines may not remain a pipedream. After all, if crude and gas can be transported through underground pipes across thousands of kilometers why can’t a basic necessity like water?
Wow. Very heartening to hear abt the pilot project success.

isn't Chandan da himself a RS MP? Why not raise this question in parliament, sir?
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Over Rs. 8000 crore released under National Bamboo Mission
http://www.pib.nic.in/release/release.asp?relid=49719
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First alarm bells ring as paddy sowing down 25%, oilseeds 50%
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According to data for paddy released yesterday, only about 38.14 lakh hectares (ha) had been sown as compared to 51.80 lakh hectares last year. The decline is most visible in major rice-growing regions of Haryana (-1.15 lakh ha), Orissa (-2.44 lakh ha), Punjab (-7.02 lakh ha) and Uttar Pradesh (-2.05 lakh ha).

As against sowing of about 68.76 lakh hectares of oilseeds by this time last year, total oilseeds sowing so far has been completed in only about 35.58 lakh hectares. The hardest hit have been soybean (a decline of 29.39 lakh hectares) and groundnut (decline of 12.20 lakh hectares). Most affected are Madhya Pradesh (soybean) and groundnut in Gujarat.
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India to allow seeding of GM food.
To begin with tomato, brinjal and cauliflower.
A logical conclusion of the Indo US Knowledge Initiative on Agriculture.
Once the "Gene revolution" gets going, it is next to impossible to take it back.

Lok Sabha

The production of Genetically Modified (GM) vegetables has not yet been commercialized in the country. The Research and Development work is in progress for developing Genetically Modified vegetables.

The Indian Council of Agricultural Research and Department of Bio-technology has approved several projects for developing Genetically Modified varieties in tomato, brinjal and cauliflower. The transgenic lines are in various stages of development at different institutes and will be released for cultivation after clearance by Review Committee on Genetic Manipulation (RCGM) and Genetic Engineering Approval Committee (GEAC).

The target for next three years has been fixed primarily to release and popularize the GM varieties in some of the major vegetable crops.

This information was given in Lok Sabha today by Prof. K.V. Thomas, Minister of State for Agriculture, Consumer Affairs, Food and Public Distribution in a written reply.

http://pib.nic.in/release/release.asp?relid=50364

India shouldn’t accept Europe-rejected GM crop: scientists

50 Harmful Effects of Genetically Modified Foods : By Nathan Batalion


Those who voted the present sarkaar to power will surely enjoy the start of the destruction of Indian agriculture.
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Ajay... seems you follow and watch this space closely..sounds pretty alarming to me.
It would be pretty interesting to study the increase in the contribution to the GDP from agriculture sector, specially new technology,seeds,fertilizers etc.
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negi wrote:It would be pretty interesting to study the increase in the contribution to the GDP from agriculture sector, specially new technology,seeds,fertilizers etc.
Yes we can do that but for GM crops, we need to keep in mind that GM trials in India have been conducted only for a decade or so. The few GM crops that we grow include cotton, soya and corn. It is not known if the GEAC, ICAR are carrying out trials with other crops. Usually, they do not let it in the open. The contribution of GM crops to agricultural growth is minimum and negligible for now. However, with the approval of commercial farming of GM foods, soon we may see a downward effect on agricultural yields. Of course, the impact on health of those who eat the sane is very high as well.
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Vriksh wrote:I am hoping us SDREs will get some more cheap fish to eat and improve protein intake... thereby becoming TDFEs soon :)
Jamal K. Malik wrote:^^^Animals sources of proteins like meats,milk,chesse,fish,fowl and eggs are contain all three essential amino acids(EAA) in sufficiant amount.Moreever thier biological value and digestibility is high.
Vegetable proteins like pulses,cerals.beans,oil seeds and nuts proteins. These are poor in EAA.
SBajwa wrote:People from around the world have

Meat and Potatoes
Meat and Rice
Meat and Bread

while people from India have
Pulses and Rice
Pulses and Bread
and may be milk based products
-----
Thus desi genes have evolved into eating more and more carbs and thus diabetes, heart disease., etc.
Hello...at the risk of being OT...but could not resist responding to the myth of animal protein being propogated here...(hence, request the mods to consider this post with relevance to the quotes above)
The West has come to realize the myth of animal protein in Homo Sapien's diet with research highlighting a very high incidence of cancer and a host of degenerative diseases. Also, modern research points out that a veg diet is the ideal for our species since its physiology and anatomy is designed by Nature to digest only plant proteins! (a host of factors starting from the design of the teeth for crushing nuts, fruits and legumes [as against sharp incisors in carnivores for tearing the flesh], alkaline nature of the human saliva to help digestion of starch better [as against acidic saliva in carnivores animals to enable digestion of animal protein], length of the human alimentary canal which is much longer to enable digestion of plant protein and cellulose [as against short and straighter alimentary canal in carnivores to expel the 'meat' fast enough]. Incidentally, when humans take meat and animal protein, due to the longer alimentary canal and the fact that the digestive enzymes are not designed to digest animal proteins, the food starts rotting (peutrifaction of animal proteins) shortly after intake down the alimentary canal releasing numerous free radicals and toxins which lead to carcinoma and other degenerative diseases. Yes, the effect is very slow for SDREs to realize...(the West which dished out the superiority of animal proteins have started moving away from it...but,the leftover idea which West once promoted is accepted as Veda vakya by majority of Indians...) as nobody dies the next day after eating animal protein. The effects tend to show up over a period of several years of intake of animal proteins [why, even dairy products are being disputed by current Western research since lactase ceases to be produced by human body after the age of 5 years or so; atherosclerosis, lactose intolerance and a few other degenerative diseases are attributed to dairy intake]. Attributing calcium deficiency in non dairy diet is also contested with green leafy vegetables being a very good source of the mineral minus lactose intolerance! Just read a title by the name 'Fit for Life' by Harvey and Marilyn Diamond- they give a chilling account of how the meat and dairy lobby runs the U.S. Govt and is still trying to whitewash the ill effects of animal protein, not withstanding the strong public opinion building up against its consumption). Still, a simple googling will reveal the fallacy of animal protein as an essential requirement for humans...

Well, the latest fad by the fishing industry is its penchant with Omega 3 fatty acids...(btw,makers of Mars chocolate funded a research to find out whether there could be any health benefit that they could tom tom about to help sales and viola...they found that it offered some...and so did the French vineyards which sponsored another study and concluded that moderate intake of alcohol (also due to some antioxidants present in wine) cut the risk of atherosclerosis [wine bibbers made a song and dance about the study; in psychology they call it 'rationalisation' and made a beeline for wine stores- the fact is that atherosclerosis, heart diseases, incidence of strokes etc. can be controlled by other factors like diet, life style, exercise etc and drinking alcohol is not the remedy; anyway, long term intake of alcohol leads to liver diseases![the point is, if somebody conducts a research on addressing mineral deficiency by eating sand, they might find some positives in eating sand as well! But, do we need to eat sand if those deficiencies can be addressed by a healthy diet otherwise??!!] The fishing industry lobby hyper inflating the benefits of Omega 3 fatty acids from sea food is a similar case! Have they heard of flax seeds which is the best source of Omega 3? A plant source for the same minus the ill effects of intake of animal protein!!

And oh yeah! the familiar complaint of SDREs not able to win any Olympic medals for the country while the success of the rest of the world and Chicoms in this area who eat from ants to centipedes are attributed to intake of animal proteins...what a fallacy!! ->>

http://www.ivu.org/articles/sport.html

http://www.ivu.org/articles/exhibition/sport.html


Attaching a few links on the myth of animal protien for reference...

http://tribalglobe.com/TG/?p=24

http://www.lifedynamix.com/articles/Nut ... _Myth.html


P.S.- IIRC, read somewhere that if we compress the evolutionary period of humans of several million years to a one week period, he started having animal proteins only from the last few seconds. Until then, he was thriving on plant proteins alone...!! So much so for evolutionary support!!
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We will support Indian farm initiative: Hillary Clinton

Oh fark does this means invasion of GM seeds? :evil: and eventually India will be made into a Banana Republic ala Costa Rica. :((
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More G-8 funds for India’s agri sector?
Though she praised Indian agriculture scientists for helping both the country and world for trying to produce more, she admitted that she had also learnt about the farmers’ suicides, which had been taking place in India. “I know they are doing it for not being able to pay the debts. The issue needs to be addressed,” she added.
But does she know WHY they incur these debts? It’s because they cannot afford to buy expensive insecticides required to maintain IMPORTED GM crops, and now their barren land cannot cultivate anything else on it.
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BajKhedawal wrote:More G-8 funds for India’s agri sector?
Though she praised Indian agriculture scientists for helping both the country and world for trying to produce more, she admitted that she had also learnt about the farmers’ suicides, which had been taking place in India. “I know they are doing it for not being able to pay the debts. The issue needs to be addressed,” she added.
But does she know WHY they incur these debts? It’s because they cannot afford to buy expensive insecticides required to maintain IMPORTED GM crops, and now their barren land cannot cultivate anything else on it.
MNC are the reasons for the high prices and global control on agri products
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Agriculture: Secret of Modi's success - Swaminathan S. Anklesaria Aiyar
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Between 2000-01 and 2007-08 agricultural value added grew at a phenomenal 9.6% per year (despite a major drought in 2002). This is more than double India’s agricultural growth rate, and much faster than Punjab’s farm growth in the green revolution heyday. Indeed, 9.6% agricultural growth is among the fastest rates recorded anywhere in the world. That drives home the magnitude of Gujarat’s performance.

<snip>
Research shows that rural roads are the most important investment for agriculture. Gujarat has one of the best rural road networks in India, and 98.7% of villages are connected by pukka roads.

<snip>
The state has helped catalyse production, notably in water harvesting. It has worked with NGOs and companies to bring the best technology to farmers. Gujarat Agricultural University has been split into four separate universities, helping strengthen R&D.

Can this be replicated in other states? Much of it can. Jyotigram looks least likely to be replicated because it abandons the free-but-unreliable rural power that politicians regard as vote-winners in most states. Many states also prefer large irrigation projects to small water-harvesting ones, since bigger projects translate into bigger kickbacks. Yet Modi’s electoral success points to a new way of winning rural votes. Others should sit up and take notice.
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^Others states have tried water harvesting techniques too but with mixed results. Rajasthan brought back to life a dead river. Not only it brought about an ecological change but also social changes too. People who had turned to crime due to lack of productive employment have turned farmers.
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The cliffs in the area, known for its Chambal outlaws who play hide-and-seek with the police forces of three States -- Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh and Uttar Pradesh -- do not reverberate any more with the sounds of staccato gunfire: for there is peace. A good number of dacoits and their accomplices now cultivate paddy in these once waterless tracts.
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Few years back karnataka tried to rejuvenate thousands of lakes and ponds in the kaveri region so that farmers dont have to depend on the river for their irrigation needs. Money needed to accomplish this was huge so ADB was approached when Amma stepped in and opposed this. Last time i bothered to check this project was abandoned. If dependency of farmers on kaveri river water is reduced in both states then tensions wont be created whenever there is a shortage of water due to deficient rains.

World over there is a movement which opposes bottled water but AP govt has decided to supply villages with bottled mineral water . Instead of desiliting tanks and lakes in these villages and chalk out a permanent solution they opted for short time solution which will end up polluting the environment. Those bottles wont be recycled and ground water will continue to be depleted due to large scale extraction by these bottling plants.

And finally waiting for Nbpjrie fan club members to descend and start trashing gujarat.
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Avinash R wrote:^Others states have tried water harvesting techniques too but with mixed results. Rajasthan brought back to life a dead river. Not only it brought about an ecological change but also social changes too. People who had turned to crime due to lack of productive employment have turned farmers.
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The cliffs in the area, known for its Chambal outlaws who play hide-and-seek with the police forces of three States -- Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh and Uttar Pradesh -- do not reverberate any more with the sounds of staccato gunfire: for there is peace. A good number of dacoits and their accomplices now cultivate paddy in these once waterless tracts.
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Few years back karnataka tried to rejuvenate thousands of lakes and ponds in the kaveri region so that farmers dont have to depend on the river for their irrigation needs. Money needed to accomplish this was huge so ADB was approached when Amma stepped in and opposed this. Last time i bothered to check this project was abandoned. If dependency of farmers on kaveri river water is reduced in both states then tensions wont be created whenever there is a shortage of water due to deficient rains.

World over there is a movement which opposes bottled water but AP govt has decided to supply villages with bottled mineral water . Instead of desiliting tanks and lakes in these villages and chalk out a permanent solution they opted for short time solution which will end up polluting the environment. Those bottles wont be recycled and ground water will continue to be depleted due to large scale extraction by these bottling plants.

And finally waiting for Nbpjrie fan club members to descend and start trashing gujarat.
Avinash .. thanks for the info .. was not aware of these.
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Now, indigenous cows are in great demand
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Even though, indigenous cows give less milk, there has been a steady increase in its demand, recently. Also, demand for butter of indigenous cows is more. Rearing of indigenous cows is easy when compared to rearing of jersey cows. Indigenous cows have high immunity and they can be grazed in the woods as well. Thus, indigenous cows will continue to be farmers’ friend.
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