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Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 26 Aug 2018 12:37

Good thing the kabaddi event is over. Not a single gold from that event. Kabaddi at AG is a pointless pursuit for us . We want to stay up the medal charts. At most, that gives us 2 golds. More likely, we end up with 0-1 golds. In this edition we got zero kabaddi golds. We sent 40+ people among both teams for that kind of a result - a silver and a bronze.

Team sports are a waste of resources at a multi-sport games. If we want lots of medals, we need depth in individual sports. There's no way around it. Having two large team sport contingents means less to go around for others. Already, players haven't even gotten their daily stipend.

I'd much rather see us field deep teams in all manner of individual sports, attempting to garner 20-50 golds in the process. Instead, we're more likely to win about 12-15 this time around. So far:
Wrestling: at or above par
Shooting: at or above par
Kabaddi: epic fail
Archery (recurve): epic fail
Rowing: much below expectation (7 golds aimed for, finished with 1 gold, 6 bronzes)
Sepak takraw/wushu : way above expectations
Weightlifting: set up to fail since Mirabai Chanu pulled out with injury
Tennis: ho hum. No Sania Mirza, nothing in womens
Squash: way below par, with 3 bronzes. Minimum 1 gold was expected.
Badminton: way below expectations so far.

Our results so far look great mainly because the shooters and wrestlers both won more golds than expected.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 26 Aug 2018 13:49

Our stupid politicians are still building cricket stadiums when we need infra for other sports.

chola · Post by **chola** » 26 Aug 2018 16:04

Supratik wrote:Our stupid politicians are still building cricket stadiums when we need infra for other sports.

We need swimming pools. Good for overall health of the population too.

VenkataS · Post by **VenkataS** » 26 Aug 2018 17:05

Swimming is something that we should absolutely go for. There are a lot of medals to be had in swimming (123 in total and 41 golds)(Also this does not include Diving which has 14 events on its own). Japan and China each won 19 golds and 52 and 50 medals respectively from swimming alone at this years Asian games.
It is probably hard to crack their dominance here, but that is lot of medals for us not be investing resources here.

Another area where there are a lot of medals to be had is Athletics which has 48 events.
We should concentrate on Athletics and Swimming over the next two decades. A total 267 medals to be had in these two categories alone.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 26 Aug 2018 18:54

Also cycling has many medals. Hima Das and Md. Anas win silver. Hima has broken the 51 sec mark but her opponent who won gold is World silver medalist. If Hima is trained properly she can go far.

nash · Post by **nash** » 26 Aug 2018 18:55

https://twitter.com/Ra_THORe/status/1033391210986201090

By 2019, we plan to develop 20 schools - one per district - as specialized sports schools. In the next 4 years the target is 150 schools The purpose is to pick potential star athletes when they are young (10-12 yrs old) and train them over the years.

This seems like a good plan , we can only hope if he stays there for next 4-6 years, at least for Athletics, we can create infrastructure for these many schools but for Aquatics i think it would be much selective.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 26 Aug 2018 20:30

Duttee Chand has won silver in 100 m many years after PT Usha.

Deans · Post by **Deans** » 26 Aug 2018 22:12

Supratik wrote:Duttee Chand has won silver in 100 m many years after PT Usha.

If we disregard the imported Jamacian/ Ethiopian/Kenyan runners Bahrain and Qatar are fielding, (they also bought up the Bulgarian weightlifting team), the silvers we got in Athletics today would have been gold. There's actually been a fair bit of progress in Athletics.

Some observations.
The women wrestlers and boxers have so far fared better than the men. Something we can focus on more in future.
Same with Badminton and Hockey - this is the best women's hockey team I've seen.

We got into a lot of swimming finals. Though we did not win medals, its a better performance than the `fluke' bronze we got in the 2 previous AG's.

In Wushu and Sepak Takraw, we got bronzes by merely winning 1 match. There must be several other sports where we can get medals even with
minimal preparation, simply because there isn't much competition (e.g. Jiu-Jitsu, Karate, Paragliding, Bowling). In Yachting (my sport at national level) we did not field anyone in 2 events. One event with multiple medals we did enter, is bridge, which should give us 3-4 medals.

Our performance in Basketball, Volleyball, Canoeing and Handball was pathetic. I think the IOA was right in wanting to keep them out - it would have reduced our contingent size by 100, with more focus on serious medal contenders. 2 of these teams were cleared because of court directives. Govt needs to find some way of making selections immune to court intervention.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 26 Aug 2018 22:22

I think it is good they are fielding Africans. You can benchmark yourself with international standards instead of winning easy golds at AG and then not even appearing at OG.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 26 Aug 2018 22:38

Taipei beat India in TT 3-2. Taipei is ranked No 5 in the world. India is No 19. I think that gap in TT is narrowing.

Picklu · Post by **Picklu** » 27 Aug 2018 02:02

Dutee really competed, she actually appeared to be the winner

There were lot of gap between the winner and Hima. The rest were not even in the same frame.

disha · Post by **disha** » 27 Aug 2018 08:01

Dutee lost gold by 0.02s to the african import of Bahrain.

I think a rule needs to be put in place that all the imports have to be granted citizen & if the imports live the country after say 10 years after last event, they forfeit the medal & also forfeit a similar position in upcoming game!

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 27 Aug 2018 09:38

Events today

-6.30 AM
Equestrian Jumping Individual Qualification: Kevic Kaevaan Setalvad, Chetan Reddy Nakula, Kevic Zahan Setalvad
Equestrian Jumping Team Qualification: India

-8.15 AM
Karate Men's 75kg 1/16 Final: Sharath Kumar Jayendran vs Muil Kim

-8.30 AM
Canoe TBR 1000m Men: India

-9.30 AM
Sepaktakraw Men's Regu Preliminary Group B match: India vs Nepal

-10:30 AM
Badminton Women's Singles Semifinals: Saina Nehwal vs Tzuying Tai (Chinese Taipei)
Badminton Women's Singles Semifinals: PV Sindhu vs Akane Yamaguchi (Japan)
Table Tennis Men's Team Group D: India vs Macau

-11.00 AM
Squash Women's Team Pool B: India vs Iran
Squash Men's Team Pool B: India vs Indonesia
Volleyball Women's Team Pool B match: India vs China

-12.30 PM
Hockey Women's Pool B: India vs Thailand
Weightlifting Men's +100kg Group A

-12.42 PM
Karate Men's 84kg Quarterfinal: Vishal

-2.30 PM
Table Tennis Men's Team Group D: India vs Vietnam

-3.00 PM
Boxing Men's Middle (75kg) Round of 16: Vikas Krishan vs Tanveer Ahmed (Pakistan)

-3.30 PM
Weightlifting Women's +75kg Group A

-4.30 PM
Table Tennis Women's Team Quarterfinals

-5.00 PM
Squash Men's Team Pool B: India vs Singapore

-5.10 PM
Athletics, Women's Long Jump (Final): Neena Varakil, James Nayana (5:10 PM IST)

-5.15 PM
Athletics, Men's Javelin Throw (Final): Neerak Chopra, Shivpal Singh
Athletics, Women's 400m Hurdles (Final): Jauna Murmu, Anu Raghavan
Boxing Men's Light Fly (49kg) Round of 16: Amit vs Kharkhuu Enkhmandakh (Mongolia)

-5.30 PM
Athletics, Men's 400m Hurdles (Final): Dharun Ayyasamy, Santosh Kumar Tamilarasan
Athletics, Men's High Jump (Final): Chethan Balasubramanya

-5.45 PM
Athletics, Women's 3000m Steeplechase (Final): Sudha Singh, Chinta

-6.00 PM
Athletics, Men's 3000m Steeplechase (Final): Shankar Lal Swami

-6.15 PM
Boxing Men's Bantam (56kg) Round of 16: Mohammed Hussam Uddin vs Enkh-Amar Kharkhuu (Mongolia)

-6.30 PM
Table Tennis Men's Team Quarterfinals

-6.35 PM
Athletics, Men's 800m Qualification: Jinson Johnson, Manjit Singh

-7.00PM
Boxing Men's Light Welter (64kg) Round of 16: Dheeraj vs Nurlan Kobashev (Kyrgyzstan)

nash · Post by **nash** » 27 Aug 2018 11:51

Saina Nehwal lost to Tai Tzu, she is playing really well and will win the gold unless there is bad day for her.

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 27 Aug 2018 13:47

Sindhu through to Finals after defeating higher ranked #2 Yamaguche

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 27 Aug 2018 17:49

Dharun Ayyasamy wins silver in 400m hurdles

nash · Post by **nash** » 27 Aug 2018 18:26

Neeraj Chopra with 88.06 meter way ahead than rest and very close to win the gold medal.

nash · Post by **nash** » 27 Aug 2018 18:28

nash wrote:Neeraj Chopra with 88.06 meter way ahead than rest and very close to win the gold medal.

Chethan is leading in High Jump.

nash · Post by **nash** » 27 Aug 2018 18:33

nash wrote:
nash wrote:Neeraj Chopra with 88.06 meter way ahead than rest and very close to win the gold medal.
Chethan is leading in High Jump.

Chethan is now second

Neena is second in Long jump

nash · Post by **nash** » 27 Aug 2018 18:39

Neena got the silver

, missed gold by .04 meter

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 27 Aug 2018 18:42

Neeraj hit best of 88.06m leading by a large margin

and hits gold, this effort would have fetched him olympic bronze ... paki got bronze in this event

nash · Post by **nash** » 27 Aug 2018 18:45

Neeraj Chopra wins Gold medal.

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 27 Aug 2018 18:51

chethan balasubramanya hit 2.24m but his attempt was disqualified with "too many failures" damn that 2.24 is what the first ranked guy has

nash · Post by **nash** » 27 Aug 2018 18:53

Jinson Jhonson looking good in 800 metere to win medal and hopefully gold.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 27 Aug 2018 19:30

Where is Tintu Luka? I don't see her in the 800 m start list.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 27 Aug 2018 19:37

Great performance by Neeraj Chopra . Finally broke the 88m barrier and improved his own best performance by over half a meter too . He also finished 6 meters ahead of the Chinese silver medalist . If he can regularly throw in the 88-90 range he’s going to medal at world level often. Just 20 years old, already junior world champion , Asian championship, commonwealth games and Asian games golds .

Many of our athletics silvers would have been gold but for the African imports stealing all the golds from us, sigh. These people are not even citizens of their gulf sheikhdoms and yet represent them .

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 27 Aug 2018 19:53

We have crossed the 37 medals we won last Asian games! 41 now!

nash · Post by **nash** » 27 Aug 2018 20:07

SBajwa wrote:We have crossed the 37 medals we won last Asian games! 41 now!

Also, we would have more Gold medals but thanks to african import

we are still behind.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 27 Aug 2018 20:21

It seems Dharun Ayyaswamy has broken the NR in men's 400 m hurdles and is the first Indian to break 49 sec mark. Incredible Indian performance so far in this AG athletics.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 27 Aug 2018 20:43

18 year old Hima Das also broke national record to win silver in 400m. Mohammed Anas could have run a personal best and national record and would have still won silver onlee . Dutee was fantastic in her race - a couple of cms more and she’d have won gold . She beat the Chinese continental record holder to silver tho . Athletes are doing well . We would have 4-5 golds but for Nigerians masquerading as Bahraini.

Karthik S · Post by **Karthik S** » 27 Aug 2018 21:08

Suraj wrote: We would have 4-5 golds but for Nigerians masquerading as Bahraini.

Isn't there any law against this? Or are Bahrainis major sponsor of the games?

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 27 Aug 2018 21:19

India beats Japan in TT. Japan is world no 3 ranked team. The women also gave a scare to HKG world no 4. The men have moved to SF.

It is pointless to crib about the Africans. France with many imports just won the football WC. A lot of countries do that even the US. Even Japan had a few African runners in this AG.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 27 Aug 2018 21:34

The difference is that the French Africans are French citizens by birth or descent . Remember all the stories of Indians in Gelf who can’t become citizens after living there donkeys years ? Well same story with these people . Their ‘represents Bahrain/Qatar etc’ is a legal figleaf . Unless those countries offer full citizenship rights they’ve no business sending Nigerians and Kenyans to ‘represent them’.

Chinese have been complaining about this since Doha 2006 . It didn’t matter to us then because we mostly sucked in AG athletics in the power events . Now our best are the best of Asia but second best in the err... Afro-Asian Games .

M_Joshi · Post by **M_Joshi** » 27 Aug 2018 21:35

SBajwa wrote:We have crossed the 37 medals we won last Asian games! 41 now!

We won 57 medals at Incheon 2014 Asian Games.
11 Golds, 10 Silvers & 36 Bronze

Current :
8 Golds, 13 Silvers & 20 Bronze : Total 41

Current Gold prospects : Hockey Men & Women, PV Sindhu in Badminton, maybe a few in athletics or TT. Lost 2 sureshot Golds in Kabaddi.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 27 Aug 2018 21:42

Most likely they have been given citizenship.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 27 Aug 2018 21:48

The writing was on the wall for kabaddi in Incheon 2014 itself . The Iranians lost narrowly there . I figured they’d win this time , and they did .

Neeraj Chopras performance is quite interesting . All his throws were better than the silver winner . He had one illegal throw so had they given out medals by distance he would win gold, silver , bronze and positions 4 and 5 too . He won both CWG and AG by a colossal 6m each .

His focus next must be a world and Olympic medal - he’s the best at this level by a long distance. Nothing left for him to win at continental level . He’s just out of his teens and already matches Milkha Singh’s continental level feats .

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 27 Aug 2018 21:50

Supratik wrote:Most likely they have been given citizenship.

OCA and IOC should bar such self serving actions . Check out the Qatari handball team story . The Europeans are complaining about this $$-purchased sporting success since the Qatari team is a bunch of Italians and Serbs who probably could not even pronounce Salam Alaikum right .

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 27 Aug 2018 22:45

Suraj wrote:
Supratik wrote:Most likely they have been given citizenship.
OCA and IOC should bar such self serving actions . Check out the Qatari handball team story . The Europeans are complaining about this $$-purchased sporting success since the Qatari team is a bunch of Italians and Serbs who probably could not even pronounce Salam Alaikum right .

Other Gold medal winners sing the National anthem while these imported athletes had no clue what to sing!

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 27 Aug 2018 22:47

https://www.thequint.com/sports/asian-g ... ve-updates

India schedule at day 10

PV Sindhu will play world number one Tzi Tzu Ying for the gold medal at 11:40 am IST.

The men’s and women’s compound archery teams both are playing teams from Korea in gold medal matches.

The men’s table-tennis is assured a medal for the first time ever. They will play Korea in the semis starting 11am.

6:30am
Equestrian - Jumping Individual and Team: Kaevaan Kevic Setalvad, Vhetan Reddy Nakula, Zahan Kevic Setalvad
7:30am
Women's Hepthalon: Swapna Barman, Purnima Hembram
Cycling Women's Keirin: Deborah, Sonali Chanu
7:48am
Cycling Women's Team Pursuit
8am
Bridge Mixed Pair Qualification
8:15am
Women's 200m Qualification: Hima Das, Dutee Chand
8:30am
Bridge - Men's Pair Qualification
Bridge - Women's Pair Qualification
Squash - Women's Team Pool B match: India vs Thailand
11am
Table Tennis Men’s Semi-final - India vs Korea
11:15am
Compound Women's Team Final: India vs Korea
11:40am
Badminton Women's Singles Final: PV Sindhu vs Tai Tzuying
12:05pm
Compound Men's Team Final: India vs Korea
1pm
Women's Boxing (57kg) Quarterfinals: Sonia Lather vs Jo Son Hwa (North Korea)
1:45pm
Women's Boxing (60kg) Quarterfinals: Pavitra vs Hasanah Huswatun (Indonesia)
2:30pm
Hockey Men's Pool A match: India vs Sri Lanka
Squash - Men's Team Pool B match: India vs Qatar
5pm
Squash - Women's Team Pool B match: India vs Indonesi
5:55pm
Women's Javelin Throw: Annu Rani
6:10pm
Men's 800m Final: Jinson Johnson, Manjit Singh
6:20pm
Women's 5000m Final: Suriya Loganathan, Sanjivani Baburao Jadhav
7:15pm
Men's 45x400m Relay Final

Archery, Women's Badminton and Mixed Relay Hopeful for Gold on 10th Day

On the tenth day of the 18th Asian Games, the Indian men’s and women’s compound archery teams will both be in action. They will fight Korean teams in the final for a gold.

Apart from archery, the Indian mixed 4x400m relay team are also favourites for a gold in the evening session.

The big match of the day though will be when Indian badminton ace PV Sindhu plays world number one Tai Tzu Ying in the women’s singles gold medal match.

We will also see Indian athletes take part in Boxing, Equestrian, Hockey and Squash.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 27 Aug 2018 23:20

Bakistani coach roelant oltmans knows India's strategy ! Let's go for the best!