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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby Stan_Savljevic » 20 Aug 2008 14:20

China is gaming the bureaucratic system also so that rules favoring them can be forced in from the top. Recently {1-2 yrs back}, there was this mud-slinging elections at AIBA {amateur boxing assn} where the Chinese guy won handsomely after no-name countries got cash peddled with. Thats the rumor. And guess who he beat. A Baki nonetheless. There was this recent whine on daily times about how Bakiland, which was supposed to be an "Asian powerhouse" in amateur boxing :rotfl:, got booted out of the scene with noone qualifying for Beijing and how its been a downslide etc.

In a short while, if the chinese market increases {a looooong stretch given that the chinese dont follow much else but some native martial arts, football and baski} in whats now called field hockey, we will see some rule changes to favor the chinese as the FIH is looking at dumping India. India, for good measure, has spat back at the Eurocentric administration, first with KPSG and now with Ajitpal & co dumping RicC and the FIH's evil cojones {Bob Davidzon} that set up Vision India Hockey program.

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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby BhairavP » 20 Aug 2008 14:45

Mithai time early, peepul.
Sushil Kumar - bronze in wrestling.
Best Olympics EVAR!

Go Jitendra and Vijendra!

http://en.beijing2008.cn/news/sports/he ... 7030.shtml
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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby vipins » 20 Aug 2008 14:49

ya anothr medal...hurrayyyyy :D :D :D :D :D

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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby sum » 20 Aug 2008 14:58

Yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

(for want of a better icon) :mrgreen:

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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby Virupaksha » 20 Aug 2008 15:04

who still wants to bet on the previous forecast on BR of 2-1-1?? :twisted: :twisted:

congratulations Sushil :mrgreen:

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Postby Nayak » 20 Aug 2008 15:06

Good news.

Yeh dil maangey more.

Congrats Sushil.

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Postby Nayak » 20 Aug 2008 15:07

Toi(let) has no updates.

Atleast, Rediff is quick

Sushil Kumar gave India it's second medal at the Beijing Olympics as he won the bronze in the Men's Freestyle 66kg against Leonid Spiridonov of Kazakhstan.

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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby sum » 20 Aug 2008 15:14

who still wants to bet on the previous forecast on BR of 2-1-1?? :twisted: :twisted:

Was certain this would happen but gave up when Akhil crashed out.....

Now, the hopes are rekindled.... :twisted:
If it turns out 2-1-1, akula tonnage worth of mithai for Stan guru(with Shastanga namaskara thrown in) for being the resident Nostradamus of BR...

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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby Singha » 20 Aug 2008 15:21

what is refreshing is our boys are now willing to make a stand and fight it out against
the supposedly "superior" foes bred on wheat and meat.

sdre >> tfta ....soon brothers soon :mrgreen:

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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby BhairavP » 20 Aug 2008 15:23

Nayak wrote:Toi(let) has no updates.

Atleast, Rediff is quick

Sushil Kumar gave India it's second medal at the Beijing Olympics as he won the bronze in the Men's Freestyle 66kg against Leonid Spiridonov of Kazakhstan.



Mullah Nayakuddin bin Singapuri:

Whyfore you check kaffir desi media sites onlee? Please to be checking latesht updated sooper dooper webshite of taller than mountains deeper than oceans friend onlee..

http://beijing2008.com.cn

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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby Stan_Savljevic » 20 Aug 2008 16:05

The heart-attack session has nt officially started yet.. Crikkitirs are trying their regular dose on me, but I am pretty immune to their shock and awe now :twisted:. Anycase, mithais already. Sweet.

Its funny to see the dhimmedia run for cover and ask Sushil who. Just like our honorable sports mantri MSG did with Gopichand, the all-England winner and Mukesh Kumar, the man who scripted many a win against the Bakis.. What a set of hypocrites the dhimmedia are now that they have also been caught with their bottoms up :rotfl:. Amazing a single guy can shock and awe the system by his relative obscurity.

My devious curd eating yindoo brain asks what if the 4x400 quartet wins a medal along with the boxers :rotfl:. That will shock the system more. More power to Mandeep & co. I hope I dont jinx all the three. That will truly be :evil:.

updated: jinxed 1.. whats next.
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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby niran » 20 Aug 2008 16:39

Jitender Kumar trailing 6 to 7 after 2nd round.

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Postby niran » 20 Aug 2008 16:42

TRails 13 to 8 3rd round

all over, Defeated by 15 to 11.

both equally matched. his opponent was a tad quicker and accurate in his punches.
last hope in boxing in approx. 50 mins.
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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby Stan_Savljevic » 20 Aug 2008 16:44

Scrounging for any news, this is what I found.

Bio on the man of the moment

Sushil Kumar had the following finishes at major championships – 2003 World Championship: 60.0 kg. Freestyle (4th); 2007 World Championship: 66.0 kg. Freestyle (7th); 2006 World Championship: 66.0 kg. Freestyle (13th); 2003 Asian Championship: 60.0 kg. Freestyle (3rd); 2005 Asian Championship: 66.0 kg. Freestyle (8th); 2003 Commonwealth Championship: 60.0 kg. Freestyle (1st); 2005 Commonwealth Championship: 66.0 kg. Freestyle (1st); 2007 Commonwealth Championship: 66.0 kg. Freestyle (1st); 2005 Commonwealth Championship: 66.0 kg. Greco-Roman (3rd); 2006 Asian Games: 66.0 kg. Freestyle (3rd).


This is what the coach of the wrestling team said in 2003.

As Prem Nath said, "it's sad we've not been faring well in wrestling. There's no lack of talent but the sport needs a break. Maybe someone like Cheema, Mann or Chaudhary could provide the light." As for the trio, they promise to improve in the run to qualify for the Athens Olympics.

http://www.hinduonnet.com/tss/tss2631/s ... 503500.htm


Wrestlers have often blamed their basic training on turf for their failure to perform on international stage - where competitions are held on the mat.



The three wrestlers are supported by the Steel Authority of India Limited (SAIL) in their expenses for preparation for 2010 Commonwealth Games. 2005 Arjuna awardee Yogeshwar Dutt as well as Sushil Kumar successfully competed at the 2008 Asian Wrestling Championship held in South Korea. While the former bagged the gold medal in the 60-kg event, Sushil Kumar won the silver in the 66-kg category. Both were trained in Patiala under the guidance of Asiad gold medallist Satpal Pehalwan and have also undergone training schedules in Minsk, Belarus and Havana. Former Commonwealth gold medallist Rajiv Tomar defeated world-renowned wrestlers at the qualifying round of the Beijing Olympics held at Switzerland and bagged the silver in the 120-kg category.

http://citynewsr.com/2008/08/13/paswan- ... wrestlers/


“Frankly speaking, we don’t have much expectations from Rajiv Tomar who is competing in the super heavy weight category (120kg) as plenty of top class wrestlers will be participating in that category. But Sushil and Yogeshwar might land up with a medal in their category. They have defeated 50 per cent of the wrestlers who will be competing in their category in Beijing,” WFI President GS Mandher told PTI. The person who knows the trio better, National coach PR Sondhi too was optimistic about Yogeshwar and Sushil’s chances in the quadrennial event.

http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/Jul ... 081718.asp

Some history

The bleak scenario in the sport seems a poor contrast to the heady achievement of grappler Khashaba Dadasaheb Jadhav, who gave the country its first individual Olympic medal in 1952. Jadhav got the bronze in the Freestyle Bantamweight class at Helsinki, but since then no other Indian wrestler have succeeded in emulating him, though a few came close and even finished among the top six. In Helsinki itself, Mangwe Srirang Jadhav was ranked fourth in the featherweight class after losing his bronze medal bout to American Josiah Hanson by a solitary point. At Los Angeles in 1984, Rajinder Singh missed a medal by a whisker, coming fourth in the 74 Kg category.

More history lessons

India has a great tradition In wrestling and the greatest wrestler of any time the undefeated Gama was an Indian. Moreover India up to now produced world class wrestlers like Uday Chand, Bisamber Singh, Leela Ram,. Laxmikant Pandey, Chandgi Ram, Sudesh Kumar, Kha-Shabha Jadav, Kartar Singh, Palwinder Singh Cheema, Sushil Kumar, Ramesh Kumar, Yogeshwar Dutt, Rajeev Tomar, Shokinder Tomar, Anil Man and Alka Tomar, Geetika Ghakker, etc. All these are or were amongst the top wrestlers in the world.

http://forums.sulekha.com/forums/coffee ... 858196.htm

Arjuna awards for wrestling
http://sportal.nic.in/arjun1.asp?mainca ... =&comid=56
2005 Shri Sushil Kumar

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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby Virupaksha » 20 Aug 2008 16:48

Jitender lost 11-15 to the balakshin, ranked 5th in the world. not bad for a Jitender who was ranked 17th.

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Postby Singha » 20 Aug 2008 16:49

a very narrow margin of victory. I was expecting much worse.

good luck to the other guy...lets hope the ecuadorian is not some
kid prodigy.

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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby SwamyG » 20 Aug 2008 16:50

Jituuuuuuuuuuu :cry: Round three must have been nasty. I hope the lessons learned are taught to future boxers.

Now go Vijuuuuuuuuuu

Give us one more medal............

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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby SwamyG » 20 Aug 2008 16:53

Good rewards coming in for Sushil

Rewards pour in for Sushil Kumar

New Delhi (PTI): Rewards started pouring in for Sushil Kumar who won bronze medal in Beijing Olympics today with the Railway Ministry and Delhi Government announcing cash awards to a total of Rs 1.05 crores for the wrestler.

Minutes after Kumar clinched the bronze medal beating Kazakhstan's Leonid Spiridonov in men's freestyle wrestling 66kg class, Railway Minister announced that the grappler will be promoted as a Assistant Commercial Manager from ticketing inspector.

Prasad also announced a cash reward of Rs 55 lakh for Kumar, who is employed with the Railways.

Delhi Chief Minister Sheila Dikshit also announced a Rs 50 lakh reward for the wrestler, who hails from Najafgarh in south-west Delhi.

Besides the cash reward, Dikshit also said Satpal, Kumar's trainer who is employed with Delhi Government's Sports Department, will be given an out-of-turn promotion.

"Congratulations to everybody, to Delhi specially. This boy has done remarkably well. He comes from rural Delhi, comes from a government school which makes us doubly proud," Dikshit said.

She said she could not believe that Kumar had won the medal even though everybody was hoping that something will happen. "But we did not expect we will get a bronze."

"I thought my heart has stopped for a minute because I could not believe what I was hearing. The joy and tears have been so spontaneous," she said.

Sushil is only the second Indian grappler to win the wrestling bronze after Kashabha Jadhav had returned with the medal in 1952 Helsinki Games. Shooter Abhinav Bindra has won the first-ever Olympic gold medal for the country earlier at the Beijing Games.

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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby Virupaksha » 20 Aug 2008 16:59

one thing I observed, looking at the site. All the olympians were felicitated with arjun awards much before they actually go and win in olympics. Keeping track of these awardees seem to give a narrow but reliable set of actual contenders for India.

They seem to felicitate 10 to15 people per year. Narrowing down our resources to these 100 people will help us develop for these medals.

If we can use a few excellent training facilities, i.e. facilities of excellence in which entry is restricted to these awardees. The buildings which we are building for the commonwealth, if used for these people will greatly improve our future chances at olympics.

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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby SwamyG » 20 Aug 2008 17:22

As Bob Costas, on NBC, mentioned how Phelps achievement brought Spitz back into people's memory. The former record holder gets some attention from the new generation. Similarly, Sushil's excellence brings Jadhav into the front burner for a few moments:

How Khashaba Jadhav won bronze in 1952

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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby SwamyG » 20 Aug 2008 17:29

Awwwwwwwwww a Pakistani media outlet gives the background and 101s of the wrestling format: The Olympic wrestling format - how Sushil won the bronze

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SwamyG wrote:Awwwwwwwwww a Pakistani media outlet gives the background and 101s of the wrestling format: The Olympic wrestling format - how Sushil won the bronze

SwamyG, great find. Hardly a clue as to what the jargon meant.

Sadly, it is true that some Baki fora are better at sports news than most of our dhimmedia. In fact, scouring Baki fora for hockey news has become my addiction cos none of our media highlights the nuances of what some rule changes mean, who is holding the charges at FIH, why some stoopid teams get a chance at CT or CTC, whose side is the bread being buttered by FIH, level of preparedness of the Baki team, how the subcontinental style of hockey is getting leveraged etc. Except for one or two enlightened hockey commentators like Vijay Lokapally, S. Thyagarajan etc none even fit the bill to be called informed. Same sad state of affairs with boxing, kabaddi, squash etc.

In the meanwhile

Former Davis Cupper Shyam Minotra breathed his last here on Tuesday after prolonged illness, according to the All India Tennis Association. He was 62. Minotra was a top player in the country in the late 60s and 70s. At the peak of his career, he and S.P. Misra won the Asian Championship in 1970 and along with Jaideep Mukerjea bagged the Asian Games doubles bronze in 1978. He also defeated Ille Nastase of Romania.

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Postby BijuShet » 20 Aug 2008 18:18

We won the match - Final
Men's Middleweight (75kg/165 lbs) Quarterfinal -- Wed Aug 20, 2008 - Beijing Workers' Gymnasium
Carlos GONGORA (ECU) - Vijender KUMAR (IND)

Code: Select all

ountry   Name                          Corner   Round 1   Round 2   Round 3   Round 4   results
ECU   Carlos GONGORA                     Red         0        1        1          2          4
IND   KUMAR Vijender                     Blue        2        2        3          2          9
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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby SwamyG » 20 Aug 2008 18:23

Viju leading 4-1, round 2. Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Update: 6-1, round 3. Indiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

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Postby sunilUpa » 20 Aug 2008 18:27

Vijendr leading 7-2, round 3 in prgress.

8-4, round 4


9-4 :D He is in the Semis.... :D :D

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Postby SwamyG » 20 Aug 2008 18:31

9-4 Viju wonnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

Okay, do they award 2 bronzes in these events, or the 3rd and 4th fight it out for the bronze? If it is the former we have clinched a medal. If it is the latter, we still have chances. Yippppppppeeeeeeeeeeee

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Postby Hariprasad » 20 Aug 2008 18:32

Men's Middleweight (75kg/165 lbs) Quarterfinal 4 In Progress
Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - Beijing Workers' Gymnasium
Country Name Corner Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 results
ECU GONGORA Carlos Red 0 1 1 2 4
IND KUMAR Vijender Blue 2 2 3 2 9

Vijender wins :mrgreen: :(( :D :twisted:

And Vijender is assured of a bronze medal/ higher. 8)
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Postby Stan_Savljevic » 20 Aug 2008 18:32

SwamyG wrote:9-4 Viju wonnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

Okay, do they award 2 bronzes in these events, or the 3rd and 4th fight it out for the bronze. If it is the former we have clinched a medal. If it is the latter, we still have chances. Yippppppppeeeeeeeeeeee

2 bronzes for losing semifinalist.. best ever indian performance at OG. i feel like a madcap.. wanna go the archimedes way :rotfl:

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Postby Vikas » 20 Aug 2008 18:34

Hurrrayyyyyyyyyyy.. Mithai and Rabdi time.
Vijender wins the Quarterfinal. Why hope for Bronze when we still can win the Gold.

Latest prediction: 2-0-1
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Postby SwamyG » 20 Aug 2008 18:34

According to this News item Semi-finalists are guarnteed at the minimum Bronze. So it 3 in total for us?

1-0-2 at the minimum ?

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Postby Rahul M » 20 Aug 2008 18:35

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YIPEEEE !!


3 MEDALS !! can't believe it !!

edit : vij changed his tactics today. much more reserved and a little slower on his feet. the way he ran rings around the last opponent wasn't seen today.
but way he avoids punches is superb, very agile.

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Postby Karkala Joishy » 20 Aug 2008 18:37

Viju will win at least a bronze, hurray!!!
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Now who else is our medal hope?

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Postby SaraLax » 20 Aug 2008 18:45

"My blood boils when everybody goes gaga over cricket" Vijender Kumar

Vijender next fights Cuba's Emilio Correa in the Semifinal slated for this Friday. In the final on Saturday - he will meet either England's James DeGale or Ireland's Darren Sutherland. Vijender is the youngest among all the semi-finalists.
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Postby Vasu » 20 Aug 2008 18:48

Allah O Akbar!!

Aage badho Vijender, hum tumhare saath hai!

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Postby Stan_Savljevic » 20 Aug 2008 18:50

2-0-1 {best case with Vijender} will see us end in the top 30.. 1-1-1 in the top 40.. 1-0-2 {worst case scenario} in the top 45.. If someone else helps along {see below} and the stars align, 27 or 28 might be the final position.

whats left: Rajiv Tomar in wrestling, Vijender's final medal color, 4x400 womens.. All three are "dont give up so soon" scenarios. Anything is possible.

The womens team will enter the finals if they dont fck up the baton xchange like they did in one of the qualifying races and if Mandeep has fully recovered. After that, one has to pray that the Oiropeans have a terrible day for a medal. Btw, the team had their best timing minus Mandeep which led to some dramabaazi as it came after some imaginary cutoff qualifying date with the IAAF. So even if Mandeep is out, the other 4 are all well experienced. Mandeep is the young gun, the power bomb so 2 speak. She did nt take part in the 400 ms all along just to conserve herself for this. Hope she does nt have a heart break like Anju. Likelihood out of 100: 30-70.

Rajiv Tomar, like Sushil, is coming to the spotlight now. There will be lotsa gazes on him. Good chances that he will feel the pressure of a billion+ all of a sudden from complete obscurity. The coach has said that Rajiv has gone an experience trip since he is in the heavyweight division. He could spring a surprise if he does nt end up facing the finalist in the first rd like Sushil. There are no seeds in wrestling matches, so anyone can face anyone even in the first rd. Thats why they have the repechage. Likelihood: 40-60.

Vijender was our best bet in boxing from the horse's mouth {the Cuban coach}. The defending OG Gold medalist and the person he beat very recently, Bakhtyar Artayev is out. he faces the Cuban Emilio Correa now. Chances are 60-40 in Vijender's favor.

All my guess onlee :D. Usual disclaimers hold.
Added: OTOH, Emilio Correa now has the Dronacharya on his side. Its the Eklavya scenario. Sorry, could nt find a better one than this. Expect some fireworks in terms of verbal diarrhoea soon. I expect both sides to up the ante.
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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby SwamyG » 20 Aug 2008 18:51

He is good looking........now the sponsors are going to line up at his door. :D

In theory it our women's 4x400m :-), and according to Wiki there is this Rajiv Tomar (120Kg) Wrestling on Aug 21st.

Stan's prediction can not be ruled out. I am sure he would not mind if it is 1-0-4 :-)

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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby Baljeet » 20 Aug 2008 18:53

Looks like the Jat Hinterland is making this nation proud.
Najafgarh is fast becoming a sport factory along with bhiwani and rohtak.
Najafgarh--> Virendar Sehwag, Satpal, Sushil
Rohtak --> Vijendar Singh Hooda
Bhiwani --> Akhil and Jitendar.
Chandigarh --> Abhinav Bindra --> His mother is descendant of Hari Singh Nalwa

I hope these politicians awake to the fact we want to win not just participate in OG.

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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby Hariprasad » 20 Aug 2008 18:54

I want atleast one more gold. :((

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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby Rahul M » 20 Aug 2008 18:55

viju's cuban opponent in the semis.
http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/B ... 5767.shtml

he won 9:7 against the uzbek opponent.

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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby achit » 20 Aug 2008 18:57

Balle Balle....
The best Olympics ever.
1 Gold, and atleast 2 Bronze :D

Go for the Gold Vijender


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