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Postby SBajwa » 03 May 2017 19:24

India loses to Australia but won against japan (4-3)

Japan, ranked 16th in the men's game, pushed World No 6 India shot for shot while running them nearly ragged, but in the end were left stunned by a hat-trick of goals from Mandeep Singh. In a stirring display of excellence, Mandeep scored goals in the 45th, 51st and 58th minutes to pull a flagging India away from their opponents, for whom Heita Yoshihara and Genki Mitani had scored inside five minutes as the third quarter ended with Japan ahead 3-2.

As in the match against Australia on Tuesday, India were put into the advantage first only to end the first half with the scores level, but what really threatened to end their campaign was allowing Japan goals in the 43rd and 45th minutes. Somehow, India kept their heads to rebound in the final quarter through Mandeep's outstanding stick work which was, ultimately, the difference between victory and an upset loss.

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Postby SBajwa » 03 May 2017 19:29

India vs Australia finals of Sultan Azlan Shah Cup., on 6th May., provided that India does not lose their last match against Malaysia(5th may) and/or Australia does not lose to Japan.

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Postby tandav » 06 May 2017 06:29

Malaysia 1: India 0. Poor show by a team that had beaten the opponent 6:1 last time.

Britain wins against NewZealand and faces Australia in final.

http://m.timesofindia.com/sports/hockey/sultan-azlan-shah-cup-india-v-malaysia/liveblog/58533188.cms

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Postby Suraj » 08 May 2017 00:00

I think we lost our rhythm badly after losing skipper and main goalie Sreejesh in the game against Australia to injury. Barely won against Japan, and lost to Malaysia.

But we came back strongly in the bronze game, beating NZ again, 4-0 this time.

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Postby SBajwa » 08 May 2017 20:35

Britain defeated Australia 4-3 to win the Azlan Shah cup after 23 years!

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Postby Supratik » 14 May 2017 10:31

India has done well at the Asian wrestling championship. Asian wrestling is world class.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/other-spo ... XbL5M.html

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Postby Suraj » 14 May 2017 23:10

AAI couldn't make a deal with Gary Calvert to stay on as javelin coach. But they've instead forwarded former world record holder Uwe Hohn's name for clearance:
Athletics Federation of India recommends Uwe Hohn name for javelin coach
In a big boost for the likes of the Athletics Federation of India (AFI) has recommended the name of famous German Uwe Hohn as the javelin throw coach.

The name of 54-year-old Hohn, who is the only athlete to throw a javelin more than 100 meters, with his one-time world record of 104.80m set in 1984, has been sent to the Sports Ministry for clearance by the AFI.

“We have recommended the name of Uwe Hohn as javelin coach. We are expecting the ministry to approve his appointment very soon,” a top AFI official told PTI. The German was roped in after Australian javelin throw expert Garry Calvert quit the job earlier this month.
Hohn’s other great performance was a throw of 96.96m recorded during the 1985 IAAF Continental Cup in Canberra. He missed the 1984 Los Angeles Olympic Games due to East German boycott.

He has been a professional coach since 1999. His world record throw was, however, taken out of the record books after the IAAF decided to officially modify the javelin with aerodynamically unfavourable flight characteristics. His amazing effort had come before these changes.

Calvert did an amazing job, taking a country where throwers were doing low-mid 70m - not even Asian standard, to creating multiple throwers capable of 84-87 mark, which is between Asian and world competitive standard.

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Postby Supratik » 14 May 2017 23:50

10 medals final tally. Need to convert to gold.

https://twitter.com/India_AllSports?ref ... r%5Eauthor

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Postby Suraj » 15 May 2017 05:21

The Japanese are a brickwall we ran into multiple times in women's free. We also have very little by way of capability in Greco-Roman, which Iran and SoKo have generally dominated at Asian level.
2017 Asian Wrestling Championships
The 70kg free finalists are familiar names - Sushil Kumar beat them both on the way to silver in London 2012. We don't have anyone in that category since Sushil retired and Narsingh's been banned for doping.

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Postby Ankit Desai » 15 May 2017 06:37

Japanese are supreme in female wrestling and getting better and better. Asian Championship: Sisterhood of the squared circle

Our girls are also look like created mental block against Japanese too. Tough to beat Japanese wrestlers in this lifetime: Sakshi Malik

That apart, girls did good job. Specially Vinesh Phogat and Divya Kakaran. Vinesh playing in heavier division 55kg after recovering from injury did well to reach final. It is no joke to play in heavy division and after coming out of injury it is tough. Divya is also I guess first time playing in such big tournament after graduating from junior. Indian female class was looking for a tough prospect in 60+ category and I think Divya is a answer. Provided more international exposure she looks like a medal prospect at Tokyo 2020 ?

Female coach Kuldeep Malik is also doing good job with girls. It was bad idea to move him to train male during Rio de Janeiro olympic. Greatly effected India's chance in female categories.

Also nice to see greco roman wining couple of medals.

Both female and greco roman need longer tenure with same bunch of coaches.

Also nice to see heavy weight 125kg wrestler Sumit winning silver medal. India was found wanting for medal in heavy weight 74kg + categories in big tournaments. Sumit trains with/under Sushil Kumar. Sushil's influence is visible.

World championship is in August. Real test against european in offering.

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Postby sum » 15 May 2017 08:00

^^ Really envy the Japanese, Koreans ( and recently the Brits) for taking up a sport, focussing 100% on it and just getting better and better ( no excuses thrown in)

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Postby Suraj » 15 May 2017 08:20

Ankit Desai wrote:World championship is in August. Real test against european in offering.

Well, barring Russia, all the 'Stans are already in the Asian Championships. Asian standard is close to world standard already, in both free and greco-roman.

Sakshi lost to the same Japanese opponent in Rio and had to be content with bronze there. This time she lost again in the final. Vinesh Phogat would have probably made it to medal rounds at Rio but for her horrific injury in the quarterfinal that put her out of commission for months - this event was her first since many months of rehab following Rio. She too lost to the Japanese in the final. It looks like every single Indian woman lost to her Japanese counterpart, either in semi or final - they have 5 women's free golds while we have 4 silver.

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Postby Singha » 15 May 2017 10:21

i thought japani women were slim and petite with nice blunt cut hairstyles...but i guess their fanatical work ethic means they will do good in whatever is the goal.

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Postby Suraj » 15 May 2017 10:37

Japanese women are wrestling superpowers. They have people like Saori Yoshida and Kaori Icho with Alexander Karelin-like win-loss records. Most of them are slim and petite, but they have a sports friendly schooling system where the good talents get to go to sports-focused universities.

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Postby Supratik » 15 May 2017 11:14

It appears to me we are at wrestling where we were at badminton ten years back. We need to mentally overcome the wrestling powers first.

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Postby Suraj » 15 May 2017 11:30

I think we are much further along in wrestling than that. We have won wrestling medals in each of the last 3 Olympics - one silver and three bronzes. In the case of womens free, yes perhaps there's a mental block against the Japanese, but in mens we just need to ramp up our tactical abilities.

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Postby Ankit Desai » 16 May 2017 04:45

Suraj wrote:
Ankit Desai wrote:World championship is in August. Real test against european in offering.

Well, barring Russia, all the 'Stans are already in the Asian Championships. Asian standard is close to world standard already, in both free and greco-roman.

Sakshi lost to the same Japanese opponent in Rio and had to be content with bronze there. This time she lost again in the final. Vinesh Phogat would have probably made it to medal rounds at Rio but for her horrific injury in the quarterfinal that put her out of commission for months - this event was her first since many months of rehab following Rio. She too lost to the Japanese in the final. It looks like every single Indian woman lost to her Japanese counterpart, either in semi or final - they have 5 women's free golds while we have 4 silver.


Yes Asian standard is close to highest but

In female categories other than Japan, Nordic countries are real threat.

In Male free style I think Georgia, Azerbaijan, Turkey and eastern block of European side are real threat. Please check out last world championship involving all weight categories. It was in September 2015. And yes Russia. It will interesting to see how Russian will come out after recent drug charges.

In Greco Roman too same list including Cuba.


Singha wrote:i thought japani women were slim and petite with nice blunt cut hairstyles...but i guess their fanatical work ethic means they will do good in whatever is the goal.


Suraj wrote:Japanese women are wrestling superpowers. They have people like Saori Yoshida and Kaori Icho with Alexander Karelin-like win-loss records. Most of them are slim and petite, but they have a sports friendly schooling system where the good talents get to go to sports-focused universities.


From one of the link I posted in previous post.

Eventually, like most other wrestlers in the Japanese system, she trains at the famous Chukyo University near Nagoya, which is now called the Shigakkan University. Former world bronze medallist Kazuhito Sakae, a former world bronze medallist, recognized that women have lower center of gravity compared to men but had more flexibility in the upper body.


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Postby Suraj » 16 May 2017 11:02

Yes, good point on Turkey and the Caucasus republics. I forgot about them. They're indeed very strong in mens free and greco-roman.

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Postby SBajwa » 19 May 2017 19:32

http://www.rediff.com/sports/report/arc ... 170519.htm

India's compound men's archery team advanced to the final of the season's first World Cup, in Shanghai, on Friday.

The team comprising Abhishek Verma, Chinna Raju Srither and Amanjeet Singh made the final after getting the better of USA's Reo Wilde, Steve Anderson and Braden Gellenthien 232-230 in a closely-fought semi-final.

Verma then coupled with Jyothi Surekha Vennam to enter the bronze medal play-off in mixed pair event.

However, Indian recurve archers, including Olympians Atanu Das and Deepika Kumari, cut a sorry figure as they bowed out of their respective events early.

Trailing by one point (116-117) after the second set, Indian compound men's team bounced back to clinch the third 60-57 with all perfect 10s including one X (closest to centre). They then held on to their nerves in the decider to clinch the issue.

The fourth seeded India will take on 10th seeds Colombia in Saturday's summit clash.

In the mixed pair bronze medal match, Verma and Jyothi with take on the USA. The duo lost to second seeded Korea 152-158 in the semis.

In the first major competition after last year's Rio Olympics, Atanu and Deepika came up with poor performances in the recurve section.

Atanu made a quarter-final exit after going down to Dutch debutant Steve Wijler, who later made a dream final by beating three-time Olympic medallist Im Dong Hyun in the semi-finals.

Deepika also made an exit in the last-eight round after losing to Hayakawa Ren of Japan 1-7.

Recurve mixed combination of Atanu and Deepika made a quarter-final exit after a 3-5 defeat to Russia.

Men's recurve team lost to Japan 0-3 in the quarter-finals while women's recurve team, seeded sixth, made a first round exit after being beaten 2-6 by USA.

USA later advanced to the final.

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Postby Supratik » 19 May 2017 21:02

Is compound making a comeback in Olympics?

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Postby SBajwa » 19 May 2017 21:51

It could in future. A first request to include compound into the Olympics was made by Jim Easton in the late 1990s.

https://www.archery360.com/2017/02/28/c ... pic-games/

What if there were twice as much archery in the Olympics? That would mean twice as many thrilling archery matches on sports’ biggest stage. Thankfully, that possibility is more than a dream.

The recurve bow is the only archery style the International Olympic Committee recognizes. However, the compound bow is one step closer to joining recurves in the Olympics. That’s because World Archery recently announced compounds will be part of the 2019 Pan American Games. Being recognized by a multi-sport continental championship like the Pan Am Games is an important step for compound archery’s bid for the Olympics.

Archery fans should be excited. Very excited. If compounds join the Olympics, archery would be a multi-discipline sport like fencing, gymnastics, equestrian, wrestling, cycling and volleyball. Compound archery would be a distinct event with different competitors from recurve archery. It would be much like fencing’s foil, in which the epee and saber follow different rules and feature different competitors. Twice as many competitors, bows and arrows? We’ll take it!

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Postby Suraj » 20 May 2017 12:18

And the Indian men's compound team win the gold in the Archery World Cup, beating Colombia 226-221. US beat France 229-225 in the bronze match. Congrats to the Indian team.

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Postby M_Joshi » 20 May 2017 12:57



India U-17 Football team beats Italian counterparts 2-0 in their home turf.

India U17 Defeat Italy in Friendly Ahead of FIFA U-17 World Cup

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Postby Awadhi » 22 May 2017 12:22

^^^ Apparently it wasn't Italy's main U17 side.It was a mix team comprising of U17 players of 3rd and 4th Division clubs.

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Postby Bhurishravas » 23 May 2017 17:32

India has defeated Indonesia in the Sudirman cup group tie.
The first match was crucial where 16 year old Satwiksairaj Rankireddy paired up with Ponappa to clinch the mixed doubles.

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Postby Supratik » 23 May 2017 19:13

They got the team wrong against Denmark. Ajay Jairam has not won anything substantial despite his current ranking. Also if there are no competition rules they should have entered a scratch combination of good singles players in MD instead of two young players. They also lost two close doubles against Denmark.

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Postby Suraj » 23 May 2017 20:09

Yes, the WD team ran the world #2 ranked Danish pair of Pedersen/Juhl close , taking a game and losing the last game 21-23. Should have played Kidambi in MS - he gives Axelsen much more trouble than Jayaram does. Instead of 1-4 it could have been 2-3 or even 3-2 in our favor. I'm surprised that we won XD against Indonesia - they are very strong in it, and in doubles in general compared to us.

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Postby Bhurishravas » 23 May 2017 22:29

Nothing wrong with team selection against Denmark at all.
In fact the youngsters werent given a chance against the Danes in MD which they should have been. Sumeeth Reddy and Manu Attri are hardly youngsters. They have been on the circuit for a long time. And there is no logic of playing two scratch singles players in doubles when India has two specialist doubles teams there.

The youngsters Rankireddy and Chirag Shetty need exposure against top teams. If they have to lose, it is better to give the youngsters a chance rather than tried and tested and failed combinations every year. Giving Rankireddy the same opportunity against Indonesia in mixed doubles worked.

Jairam beat Axelsen a month ago in Malaysia . Srikanth has not troubled Axelsen at all in last one year.
Fresher Srikanth should be used where he would be effective. Like today.

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Postby Suraj » 24 May 2017 00:09

Well, Jayaram got pasted in his match against Axelsen, so I'm not sure what to make of his recent win. I wish someone would send Srikanth to China and pay Li Yongbo yell at him for a week or three. Maybe that'll set his head right. Phenomenal talent not performing to his level, considering he's capable of making Lin Dan look bad on the court when on song.

The young MD team did well against the INA pair, who are the world #1 by some distance. And Sikki Reddy is a better match for Ponnappa than the non-stop whining Jwala Gutta. And the XD win was equally surprising since INA had Tontowi Ahmad playing, and he won XD gold at Rio 2016 with another partner. Overall I'm surprised. I chalked up the INA tie as no chance at all for us due to lack of doubles depth, and was shocked we won 4-1 .

If Denmark beat Indonesia we are through to next round. What are the rules if INA win ?

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Postby Bhurishravas » 24 May 2017 07:54

Mathematically India are through to the quarters irrespective of Denmark-Indonesia match. :)

Someone needs to talk to Srikanth. Tell him to relax and just play to enjoy without thinking of results. Its easier said than done.
Sikki Reddy is too errorprone. It is contagious and that is why AP and SR arent winning anything. To be fair havent seen them playing for some time now. Last time, it was not encouraging.

The young and upcoming doubles pair of Rankireddy and Chirag Shetty is a breath of fresh air. Doubles is supremely aggressive and competitive. Hopefully the youngsters will stiffen up the long known doubles weakness in Indian team line up.

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Postby Supratik » 24 May 2017 20:52

It seems from wiki India plays China in QF. Bad luck. Why is it showing in Group B and C that 1 and 2 are playing each other again? Confusing.

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Postby Suraj » 24 May 2017 22:26

No chance against China :( We just don't have the doubles strength. At best 1-4 or 0-5 loss. But then I expected 1-4 or 2-3 loss to INA too.

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Postby Bhurishravas » 24 May 2017 22:45

Chinese arent as strong as they used to be.
Plus they are expected to win everytime they play a team event. Puts tremendous pressure on them. The reason why they lost in thomas cup 3 years ago.
Indians should play their game and enjoy. Will be good exposure for the young doubles guys at least.

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Postby Supratik » 26 May 2017 19:43

Lost to China 3-0. After the well fought first match, Srikanth and the MD team succumbed easily. China put their best Chen Long against Srikanth. Probably didn't want to take chances with Lin Dan.

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Postby Bhurishravas » 26 May 2017 21:52

Srikath`s attack is very good. He needs to work a little on his defence perhaps. There wasnt much difference between the two players. A few unforced errors decided the second game. But then that can be said about most badminton matches these days.

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Postby Suraj » 26 May 2017 21:58

Srikanth never seems to be able to win against Chen Long, but seemingly comes closer or beats Lin Dan (China Open, Rio 2016). What's it about Chen Long's game that makes it harder for him than against Lin Dan ?

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Postby Bhurishravas » 27 May 2017 03:49

Its more psychological, I would say.
When Srikanth was on a high, he still lost to Chen Long because he couldnt find a way past him. That was in Dubai Super Series finals two years ago. The doubts have lingered since.
Chen Long has a compact game. It can wilt only under extreme pressure. Srikanth can break it down but he has to be relentless in effort. That means both self belief and unerring attack. He plays more of a tactical game against Chen Long which imho is a good idea only till some point.
As he showed yesterday too, it is the attack that gets him the points. It was only after the first 11 points of the first set that he started attacking.

Like I said. It has to be self-belief with relentless unerring game. But KS has too many ghosts.

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Postby Supratik » 03 Jun 2017 16:47

I don't have a good feeling about the future of Saina Nehwal. Happened to catch her play in the Thailand open. The body language and game was not her ussual aggression. Seems like she has given up. I will not be surprised if she retires soon.

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Postby Bhurishravas » 05 Jun 2017 00:58

Sai Praneeth won the Thailand Open Grand Prix Gold. It wasnt a convincing win but he managed to scrape through.
He looks lazy and acts tired from the first point. He has been on the circuit since he was a kid. Looks like he is tired of it all and going through the motions after 15 years of playing badminton. Fummy body language.
I think Saina is trying to stay fit and working upwards strategically now, after the injury. Planning which tournaments to play etc. And she has grown more mature, so less aggression perhaps. Havent seen her matches recently though.

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Postby Manish_P » 05 Jun 2017 15:46

Article from Dawn

https://www.dawn.com/news/1337377/champions-trophy-encounter-pakistan-concedes-to-india-in-one-sided-contest

Pakistan concedes to India in one-sided contest
(see if it is not India which beat Pakistan, rather it is Pakistan which so magnanimously let India win)

Reading the comments after our win is such fun :D

Please do excuse the loonng post

Humble - a day ago

Pakistan wining today ! I can feel the confidence in our team !


IQBAL HADI ZAIDI -
about 24 hours ago

first over maiden from amir. Good start from young bowler . Rohit batting is not upto the mark. Former Pakistani diplomat. Kuwait.


Syed Irfan ali - about 24 hours ago

Wish all the luck to green shirts. May they win this match. If lost, not a big deal it's just a cricket match....
Already ready to do downhill skiing :wink:

Indian4RMBLORE - about 24 hours ago

Toss wil b only win for green shirts,
:mrgreen:

Rashid - about 23 hours ago

If we can tie the loss with Hafeez, Shahzad, Azhar and Wahab retirement, it will be win win situation in a long run
:?:

Private - about 22 hours ago

India will win today.I see the confidence in Pakistan team.
:lol:

Khurram - about 22 hours ago

India 126/0 and our players still maintaining calm, that's what is important.
Take that, you Indians

YOUKNOWIMRIGHT - about 22 hours ago

So, we are going to see "out of the box things" according to the Pakistan skipper. Well, so far (1-136) the only thing out of the box is the Indian geni and they are powering away to an uncatachable total!
:-o Realisation begining to 'Dawn'

Roy - about 19 hours ago

Whats wrong with Pakistani bowlers...........Wahab Riaz looks intentionally left the field .......
Following the glorious examples set by Mian Nawaz, Mushy Rat :P

LOUDSPEAKER - about 17 hours ago

Pakistan has to score 289 runs in 41 overs at the asking rate of 7.048. India has scored 319 in 48 overs at the scoring rate of 6.645. One fails to understand the philosophy behind Duckworth & Lewis Algebra in asking Pakistan to score at 7.048 in order to win this match. Basic Math calculations will show a scoring rate of 6.645 will be good enough to tie the match.
Sialkot Statistics and Lahori logic will see us through :twisted:

NY Indian - about 16 hours ago

@LOUDSPEAKER

You must be a graduate of "aXact university" given your knowledge of probability and statistics -- remember that the side batting first does not know the target and how many overs they are going to face -- that is why D/L adjusts the run rate -- pakistan has the distinct advantage that they know the target they need to win!
:lol:

Yogi baba - about 16 hours ago

I am confident that Pakistan will come second.
:rotfl:

MOAB - about 16 hours ago

INDIA blasted Pakistan .... won easily............. KOHLI very agressive Captain . Stilll India dropped catches....
:roll: See that's a victory for Bakistan

imran a khawaja - about 15 hours ago

Pakistan was playing with 8 players with Hafeez, Wahab, and Malik. Wahab in the team without merit and did not perform since last World Cup.
See that's another victory for Bakistan. We had only 8 players to face your 11 :((

Wah - about 8 hours ago

India did not win this match. The rain won it for India.
There you go. Nature was against us. In future we should insist that matches be played only in the gulf deserts.


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