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Postby Supratik » 28 Jan 2018 13:53

Saina and Bopanna have both lost in the final.

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Postby SBajwa » 01 Feb 2018 23:03

MC Mary kom wins Gold

M C Mary Kom struck gold in the women's category but India’s men were denied a complete sweep by traditional powerhouses Cuba and Uzbekistan on an exciting final day of the India Open boxing tournament, in Delhi, on Thursday.

Mary Kom (48kg) got the better of Filipino Josie Gabuco 4-1 in a battle of attrition as the Indian women stole the thunder from the men by picking five gold medals after the men were thwarted by Cuba and Uzbekistan.

Pwilao Basumatary (64kg) was the first among them to fetch gold. The former World and Asian bronze medallist claimed a 3-2 win over Thailand's Sudaporn Seesondee.

The Assam boxer is a regular in the national camp and had claimed a gold medal at the 2015 Nation's Cup in Serbia.

She hails from a small village in Kokrajhar, where several families were displaced during the 2012 riots. Her family was among those displaced by the violence but has since moved on.

Lovlina Borgohain, another Assam boxer, claimed the women’s welterweight (69kg) gold, getting the better of compatriot Pooja.

In the evening, Commonwealth Games bronze-medallist Pinki Jangra (51kg) registered a unanimous victory over Mongolia's Jargalan Ochirbat. Manisha (54kg) added to the gold rush forwomen by claiming the top honours in the all-Indian final against M Meenakumari.

But former World champion L Sarita Devi (60kg) had to settle for a silver medal after losing to Finland's Olympic bronze-medallist Mira Potkenon.

Sarita gave her all in the bout but lost on a 2-3 decision after Potkenon salvaged a rather rusty performance with a final round flourish.

In the men's draw, Sanjeet (91kg) picked up India's first gold of the day when he upstaged Uzbekistan's Sanjar Tursunov.

The Indian matched Tursunov punch for punch in an engrossing contest before getting a split 3-2 verdict in his favour.

National champion Manish Kaushik (60kg), who stunned World and Asian medallist Shiva Thapa on Wednesday, did not have to step inside the ring to collect his gold.

Manish was given a walkover by his Mongolian opponent Battumur Misheelt, who pulled out owing to a cut sustained on his forehead during his semifinal bout.

Asian Games bronze medallist Satish Kumar (+91kg), however, settled for a silver, outwitted by Uzbekistan's Bakhodir Jalolov in a split 4-1 decision.

Dinesh Dagar took the welterweight (69kg) silver after going down to Uzbekistan's Bobo-Usmon Baturov.

In perhaps the most entertaining bout of the day, the Uzbek turned on the style against the gritty Indian.

With a smile on his face throughout and a mostly non-existent guard, Baturov was every bit a showman as he craftily got the better of Dinesh in a unanimous verdict.

To his credit, Dinesh connected a few lusty jabs of his own but Baturov was never really troubled.

Later, Devanshu Jaiswal (81kg) was up against Cuba's David Gutierrez.

Although the crowd favourite gave a good account of himself in defensive tactics, the Cuban connected enough with his jabs to score a split 4-1 victory.

Former World silver medallist Saweety Boora (75kg) also had to be content with a second place finish against Cameroon's Essaine Clotilde.

Each gold winner in the US $100,000 event went home richer by US $2500. The silver and bronze medal winners were presented US $1500 and US $500 respectively.

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Postby SBajwa » 01 Feb 2018 23:04

Commonwealth Games champion Parupalli Kashyap, Sameer Verma and the mixed doubles pair of Satwiksairaj Rankireddy and Ashwini Ponnappa notched thrilling victories to enter the quarter-finals of the India Open Super 500 World Tour badminton tournament in Delhi on Thursday.

Kashyap, who has been struggling to cross the opening round since recovering from his series of injuries, finally reached the quarter-finals of a major event after overcoming compatriot Shreyansh Jaiswal 21-19, 19-21, 21-12.

Coming back after recovering from a shoulder injury, Sameer also dished out an attacking game to see off former world No. 3 and 2014 World Championship bronze medallist Tommy Sugiarto of Indonesia 21-18, 19-21, 21-17 in an hour and 20 minutes.

The unseeded pair of Satwik and Ashwini then registered a stunning 21-16, 15-21, 23-21 win over the third seeded Malaysian combo of Tan Kian Meng and Lai Pei Jing. The duo blew four match-points before recovering in time to reach their maiden quarter-finals of a major tournament.

The eighth seeded Indian duo of Pranaav Jerry Chopra and N Sikki Reddy also entered the quarter-finals after seeing off the Malaysian-Indian pair of Yogendran Khrishnan and Prajakta Sawant 21-10, 21-19 in 32 minutes.

Manu Attri and B Sumeeth Reddy too progressed to the last eight stage with a 21-11, 21-15 win over compatriots Tushar Sharma and Chandrabhusan Tripathi.

Earlier, unheralded Mugdha Agrey's campaign ended with a 12-21, 16-21 loss against fifth seeded Beiwen Zhang of USA, while eighth seeded Spaniard Beatriz Corrales ended Ruthvika Shivani Gadde's run with a 21-19, 21-16 win.

Iceland International winners Rohan Kapoor and Kuhoo Garg also lost 10-21, 11-21 to the fifth seeded Danish pair of Mathias Christiansen and Christinna Pedersen.

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Postby Supratik » 25 Feb 2018 21:21

Sameer Verma wins Swiss open badminton. First Indian win of season. Beat Kento Momota and Jan Jorgensen both of whom are returning after long.

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Postby Ankit Desai » 26 Feb 2018 00:16

Old horse Kashyap also won Austrian Open.

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Postby Suraj » 26 Feb 2018 03:24

CWG2018 coming up in March . Would be interesting to see how some of our players stack up , eg by how much distance Mirabai Chanu can win, or how well our two javelin throwers do . Neeraj Chopras been throwing in the low 80m range in early season training . Ditto for Davinder Singh Kang . Hopefully we back 20-25 golds at CWG.

Not much news from our new crop of sports - shooting, wrestling, boxing and weight lifting recently . CWG is followed by AG in August .

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Postby SBajwa » 26 Feb 2018 04:21

There is Sultan Azlan Shah hockey cup from March 3 - March 10. Pakistan has been dropped from this cup.

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Postby Ankit Desai » 26 Feb 2018 09:47

Suraj wrote:CWG2018 coming up in March . Would be interesting to see how some of our players stack up , eg by how much distance Mirabai Chanu can win, or how well our two javelin throwers do . Neeraj Chopras been throwing in the low 80m range in early season training . Ditto for Davinder Singh Kang . Hopefully we back 20-25 golds at CWG.

Not much news from our new crop of sports - shooting, wrestling, boxing and weight lifting recently . CWG is followed by AG in August .



Boxers are doing good in various tournaments. Mary Kom & Seema Poonia wining silver and four medallist were Meena Kumari Devi (54kg), L Sarita Devi (60kg), Saweety Boora (75kg) and Bhagyabati Kachari (81kg) at Strandja Memorial boxing in Bulgaria. From men Amit Panghal & Vikas Krishan claimed gold while bronze-medallists were Mohammed Hussamuddin (56kg), and Satish Kumar (+91kg).

Wrestlers are heading to asian championship starting from Feb 27. It will be real test to check out how well prepared they are.

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Postby SBajwa » 02 Mar 2018 22:08

Vinesh Phogat wins Silver at Asian wrestling

India's Vinesh Phogat had to be contend with a silver medal in the Asian Wrestling Championship after losing 2-3 to China's a Chun Lei in the summit clash of the women's 50kg freestyle event in Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan.

Trailing 0-1 early in the bout, Commonwealth Games gold medallist Vinesh made a strong comeback to score two points and take the lead. But with less than two minutes left, the Chinese wrestler scored two crucial points with an attacking move to regain the lead, which she defended till the end.


Another Indian wrestler Sangeeta defeated Jieun Um of Korea to win a bronze medal in the women's 59kg freestyle event.

Vinesh and Sangeeta's medals increased India's tally so far in the tournament to four, including two bronze in Greco-Roman events.

Divya Kakran could not add to India's tally as she lost her bronze-medal bout to Meerim Zhumanarova of Kyrgyzstan in the women's 68kg freestyle event.

Vinesh expressed her disappointment after the loss in the final.

"Not entirely pleased with the final result at #Bishkek2018. Nevertheless, a good start to 2018, a super important year," the Indian wrestler wrote on his twitter handle.

Saying that she will look to work on the shortcomings, Vinesh added, "Some big events coming up, super pumped to make all those opportunities count."

Earlier, Vinesh assured herself and India the silver medal by entering the final with a win over Japan's Yuki Irie.

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Postby SBajwa » 02 Mar 2018 22:10

Navjot kaur wins Gold!!

Navjot Kaur defeated Imai Miyu of Japan in the final to win the 65kg title. - Special Arrangement

Navjot Kaur became the first Indian woman to claim a gold medal in the Asian wrestling championships when she defeated Imai Miyu of Japan in the final to win the 65kg title at Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan, on Friday.

In a competition involving only six competitors, Navjot, who had bagged Asian bronze (2011) and silver (2013) medals and a Commonwealth Games bronze medal (2014), lost to Imai 4-4 and won against Uzbekistan’s Baltaniyazova Bakhtigul 10-0 in her group to make it to the semifinal.

Twenty-eight-year-old Navjot beat Mongolian Enkhbayar Tsevegmed 2-1 in the last four and got the better of Mai 9-1 in the final to corner the yellow metal.

Olympics bronze medallist Sakshi Malik had to settle for a bronze medal after losing 6-6 to eventual silver medallist Xiaojuan Luo of China in a 62kg first round bout.

In the repechage rounds, Sakshi defeated Jiae Choi of Korea 11-0 and Ayaulym Kassymova of Kazakhstan 10-7 to bag the bronze.

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Postby Ankit Desai » 02 Mar 2018 23:50

Awesome win by Navjot Kaur.

What a dominating performance in Final by Navjot. She looked strong from very first round very unfortunate to lost first round against same finalist.

Vinesh looked tired from very first round. Her defensive play through out leads her to final and eventually loosing against the chinese. Shakshi was also unlucky to loose in first round against chinese. I personally feel there was some mistake by judges to award two points to the chinese.

Japnese female wrestlers domination was broken in on going asian wrestling championship. India has role to play in it too. First by Vinesh than Navjot.

Chinese and Mongols are forces to reckon.

Navjot against IMAI in final
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Vinesh wining silver
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Sangeeta (another Phogat sister) winning bronze
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Shakshi winning bronze
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Greco roman wrestlers also won two bronze.

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Postby Vips » 03 Mar 2018 18:12

India defeats Pakistan in final to win Snookers team world cup.

The Indian combine of Pankaj Advani and Manan Chandra staged a remarkable recovery to pip Pakistan in the final of the inaugural IBSF Snooker Team World Cup. After being 0-2 down in the best-of-five final played last last night, India found itself in a deep trouble at 0-30 down in the third frame.

Thanks to a well-crafted 39 break from Chandra and a classy clearance of the final colours by Advani, Indian hopes were kept alive.

In the fourth frame, even though Advani found himself in a spot of bother when trailing 1-20 against Babar Masih, he took charge of the proceedings and displayed his mastery once again by clearing the table with a 69 break. This made India draw parity with Pakistan and it all boiled down to the final frame to determine the first winner of the inaugural event.

Chandra and Muhammad Asif found themselves in a seesaw frame but it was the Indian who changed gears and did most of the scoring with every given opportunity. Eventually, Chandra only needed the green to be in the safe zone leaving his opponent requiring snookers. But with a long pot on the brown, the humbled Pakistani conceded the frame and match.

The Indians made a shaky start in the final with Masih scoring a convincing 73-24 win over Chandra in the opener. Asif then went on to steal the second frame from Advani and win it on the black ball 61-56.

With the Indian team 0-2 down, it had to dig deep and win every frame thereafter. The third frame was a doubles match in which both Indians played out of their skin to stay alive in the final, winning it 72-47.

“After it became 2-0 in the favour of Pakistan, we knew our chances of winning were slim and had our task cut out. After winning the doubles frame we saw a glimmer of hope and knew now it was up to us to dig deep and individually win both our singles matches to pull off a Houdini,” said Advani.

“Manan played exceptional snooker especially in the crucial deciders of the semifinal and final, when it mattered most. I’m really happy for him to win his first world title,” added Advani, who increased his tally of world titles to a staggering 19.

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Postby SBajwa » 03 Mar 2018 22:06

India loses against Argentina in their opening Sultan Azlan Shah cup match (hockey) 3-2


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Male freestyle wrestlers' disappointing run continue. They won two bronze. Bajrang Punia 65kg and Vinod Kumar 70kg.

Meanwhile shooters' good run continue with Manu Bhaker winning 10m Air Pistol Women gold.

New generation of shooters have more to offer.

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The 16-year-old World Cup debutant shocked the world and marked her international debut with the gold in the women’s 10m Air Pistol final, also taking India’s tally to five total medals in Guadalajara.

India keeps stunning at the ISSF World Cup in Guadalajara (MEX), as 16-year-old Pistol shooter Manu Bhaker pocketed her country’s second gold medal in two days and prevailed over hometown favorite Alejandra Zavala Vazquez of Mexico in the women’s 10m Air Pistol final.



Making her absolute debut in an ISSF competition, Bhaker confronted herself with a pack of experienced and multi-decorated shooters, eventually taking gold with an incredible comeback in her final two shots.



Despite sitting on a 1.9-point advantage, in fact, Vazquez fired twice inside the 8th ring, while Bhaker first reduced the gap with an 8.5, and then secured the brightest medal with a fantastic 10.6.



Thanks to Bhaker’s gold, India's medal tally now counts two golds — both won in the Air Pistol individual events — and three bronzes.



The third step of the podium was taken by France’s 31-athlete Celine Goberville, winner of the ISSF crystal globe at last year’s World Cup Final in New Delhi (IND). The French 31-year-old shooter finished with 217.0 points, claiming her fourth World Cup medal in the Air Pistol event.



Despite finishing just outside of the medal position, Bhaker’s teammate Yashaswini Singh Deswal (20) signed the best World Cup placement of her career, scoring 196.1 points and finishing 4th in her first final appearance.



Deswal was followed by Anna Korakaki of Greece — bearer of the highest qualification score, and bronze medalist in this event at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games — who scored 177.0 points and concluded in 5th place.



Two German first-time final participants followed the Greek shooter in 6th and 7th place: 33-year-old Sandra Reitz — the wife of Germany’s multi-decorated Pistol shooter Christian Reitz — took 6th position with 155.8 points, while 30-year-old Julia Hochmuth placed 7th with 129.2.



Switzerland’s experienced shooter Heidi Diethelm Gerber placed at the bottom of the table, taking 8th place with 110.4 points.

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Postby SBajwa » 06 Mar 2018 20:24

India also got Gold in mixed doubles 10m air pistol

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Postby SBajwa » 06 Mar 2018 20:26

appearance by clinching a gold medal at Guadalajara, Mexico on Saturday. Jitu Rai and Mehuli Ghosh too finished on the podium by winning a bronze medal each.

The Meerut-based Rizvi shot a world record 242.3 in the 10m air pistol event's final to beat reigning Olympic champion Christian Reitz of Germany, 239.7, to win the top prize.

Pistol ace Rai won the bronze in the event with a score of 219, as three Indians made it to the finals of the season's first World Cup. Om Prakash Mitharval, the other Indian shooter in the event, finished at creditable fourth position with a score of 198.4 points.


https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/other- ... 2018-03-04

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Postby Suraj » 07 Mar 2018 23:36

Azlan Shah Hockey

Lost 2-3 vs Argentina
Drew 1-1 vs England
Lost 2-4 vs Australia
Won 5-1 vs Malaysia

If we beat Ireland by a large margin, Australia beat Argentina and England-Malaysia draw, then we make the final.

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Postby SBajwa » 09 Mar 2018 16:18

India vs Ireland 2-1 India leading.
Watch it live here.

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Postby Suraj » 09 Mar 2018 23:59

They blew it, lost to Ireland.

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Tribal boy wonder shoots gold at Asia Cup.

A modern day Ekalavya story looks to be taking shape, but unlike the legendary mythological archer, 17-year-old Gora Ho will not have to part with his thumb.
Part of the gold-medal winning team at the Asia Cup Stage I archery meet at Bangkok, Gora partnered Akash and Gaurav Lambe to beat Mongolia to the top spot in the recurve event on Thursday.

A tribal from Balijhudi village in Rajnagar, the wiry Gora is considered something of a prodigy with the bow and arrow. With more than 100 medals in sub-junior and junior events at the state and national levels, he has swiftly become the state's brightest talent in a short span of six years, earning the sobriquet, Golden Boy. The next natural step is the Tokyo Olympics in 2020, says everyone who has seen him in action.

"This boy is Olympic material," says B Srinivas Rao, his coach at Dugni Archery Academy in Seraikela. "His natural talent needs to be honed through focused training under the guidance of a recognized foreign coach," adds Rao.

Sensing they had a special talent in their midst, the state government awarded him a special bow that cost Rs 2.70 lakh last year. But still things are not easy, making the Gora Ho story a unique underdog one. Archery, the Ho family hopes, will provide the vehicle out of poverty and misery.

Hailing from a poor family of farmers, Gora is the youngest of four siblings. His father, the 50-year-old Khaireu Ho has been confined to the bed for the last two years following a paralytic attack. Gora had lost his mother Chameni in 2016 and his three elder brothers look after him.

"Even as a little boy, he showed a remarkable talent for archery," remembers brother Prem Shankar, "He has the capacity of doing the country proud in more international competitions. He needs the proper guidance."

As a child, Gora began his training at the Arjuna Archery Academy in Kharswan where he was spotted by Rao, who moved him to the Dugni Academy in Seraikela.

In 2014, barely 13, Gora earned recognition after winning three gold medals at the National School Games in Ranchi and a year later, showed he was no flash in the pan with 10 more medals at the Jharkhand Archery Championships. The same year, he received the National Child Award from then President Pranab Mukherjee and a local legend took flight.

Upbeat after the Bangkok performance, Gora is preparing for the trials to be part of India's team for the upcoming World Cup championship in Shanghai from April 23.

Currently, Gora is enlisted as a cadet at Army Boys Club in Pune but keeps shuttling to the Steel City for his sport. "Support from my teammates and hard work helped me perform well at my first international outing," he said on his return from Bangkok on Friday. "I wish to keep this dream alive and shoot for India at the 2020 Olympic Games."

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Postby Suraj » 10 Mar 2018 10:15

Neeraj Chopra is building form again. Threw 85.94m in the Federation Cup javelin event, warming up for CWG2018 next month. It's close to his all time best 86.5m, which is the national record and junior world record. Should be a main contender for gold at CWG.

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Postby SBajwa » 10 Mar 2018 20:33

Suraj wrote:They blew it, lost to Ireland.


I think coach is rotating the players., 4 new players (from Jr. team) were tested. The new drag flicker (Rohidas) is still learning along with the brand new goal keeper.

This whole tournament looks like a preparation for Asian games later this year.

The Jr. team players performed much much better. I guess this is all part of a game.

India defeated IReland 4-1 to get 5th place.

Austalia
Britain
Argentina
Malaysia
India

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Tribal boy wonder Gora Ho shoots gold at Asia Cup
JAMSHEDPUR: A modern day Ekalavya story looks to be taking shape, but unlike the legendary mythological archer, 17-year-old Gora Ho will not have to part with his thumb.

Part of the gold-medal winning team at the Asia Cup Stage I archery meet at Bangkok, Gora partnered Akash and Gaurav Lambe to beat Mongolia to the top spot in the recurve event on Thursday.

A tribal from Balijhudi village in Rajnagar, the wiry Gora is considered something of a prodigy with the bow and arrow. With more than 100 medals in sub-junior and junior events at the state and national levels, he has swiftly become the state's brightest talent in a short span of six years, earning the sobriquet, Golden Boy. The next natural step is the Tokyo Olympics in 2020, says everyone who has seen him in action.

"This boy is Olympic material," says B Srinivas Rao, his coach at Dugni Archery Academy in Seraikela. "His natural talent needs to be honed through focused training under the guidance of a recognized foreign coach," adds Rao.

Sensing they had a special talent in their midst, the state government awarded him a special bow that cost Rs 2.70 lakh last year. But still things are not easy, making the Gora Ho story a unique underdog one. Archery, the Ho family hopes, will provide the vehicle out of poverty and misery.

Hailing from a poor family of farmers, Gora is the youngest of four siblings. His father, the 50-year-old Khaireu Ho has been confined to the bed for the last two years following a paralytic attack. Gora had lost his mother Chameni in 2016 and his three elder brothers look after him.

"Even as a little boy, he showed a remarkable talent for archery," remembers brother Prem Shankar, "He has the capacity of doing the country proud in more international competitions. He needs the proper guidance."

As a child, Gora began his training at the Arjuna Archery Academy in Kharswan where he was spotted by Rao, who moved him to the Dugni Academy in Seraikela.

In 2014, barely 13, Gora earned recognition after winning three gold medals at the National School Games in Ranchi and a year later, showed he was no flash in the pan with 10 more medals at the Jharkhand Archery Championships. The same year, he received the National Child Award from then President Pranab Mukherjee and a local legend took flight.

Upbeat after the Bangkok performance, Gora is preparing for the trials to be part of India's team for the upcoming World Cup championship in Shanghai from April 23.

Currently, Gora is enlisted as a cadet at Army Boys Club in Pune but keeps shuttling to the Steel City for his sport. "Support from my teammates and hard work helped me perform well at my first international outing," he said on his return from Bangkok on Friday. "I wish to keep this dream alive and shoot for India at the 2020 Olympic Games."

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Postby Suraj » 10 Mar 2018 23:44

We are seeing a lot of new young athletic talent:

Neeraj Chopra (19) throws 85-86m, close to world level , and easily capable of winning at AG/CWG level. He won the junior world championship with a a junior world record (and senior national record) throw of 86.48m . Most world level events result in winning throws in the 86-89m range. His winning throw at the junior worlds would have won him a medal at all of the last 5 Olympics too, and would have fetched gold at London 2012. He broke the previous national record and junior world record by a ridiculous 5-6m!

Tejaswin Shankar (18) broke the high jump senior record with jumps of 2.26m last year, and 2.28m last month. Almost made 2.31 .

Now the just turned 18 year old Sreeshankar jumps 8m in long jump, breaking the junior national record:
Long Jump prodigy Sreeshankar, on cusp of 8-metre club, eyes Asian Games and Junior Worlds

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Postby SBajwa » 11 Mar 2018 04:04

Vote NDA and sports will go go down and belly up!! I watched documentary of Deepika kumari (Archer) on Netflix and it was GREAT!!! She struggled and had stolen food to survive when 6 years old!! she is a GEM!! We the more privileged one's have failed Indian poor people in realizing that they could be trillion times (or more) better than us if they get enough food and training!! that's all!! and they are happy to do!!

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Postby SBajwa » 11 Mar 2018 04:05

for me Deepika Kumari had won 25 Gold medals in Olympics!! she is great!!!! for me little sister!!

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Postby Supratik » 11 Mar 2018 15:37

Another gold in shooting. This is India's best world cup. Mostly new and young faces.

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Postby SBajwa » 12 Mar 2018 18:21

India with 9 medals in shooting is #1 at ISSF

http://www.issf-sports.org/competitions ... hipid=2390


#2 is USA
#3 is China.

This is the best ever.

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Postby sum » 12 Mar 2018 19:25

Wonder why we do so well in these world cups but fall away in olympics?

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Postby SBajwa » 12 Mar 2018 21:03

sum wrote:Wonder why we do so well in these world cups but fall away in olympics?


The learning curve is slowly accelerating. Deepika Kumari #1 in world (archery) always failed in Olympics due to mental pressure. She needed a psychologist and/or psychiatrist. A personal doctor is always needed., while accompanying babus travel in 1st class (known issue in Rio Olympics) and athletes in economy.

Indian archery team to Rio olympics had 1 coach, 1 assistant coach, 1 cook and 2 officials with their families.
What they needed was a physiotherapist. I think the new minister (Olympic silver medal winner Col. Rajyavardhan singh Rathore AVSM) is keeping things very smooth.

Watch out for these next two tournaments and see how we compare with others (Australia, England, Canada, NZ in Commonwealth while China, Japan, etc in Asian games)

4th April, 2018 there are commonwealth games at Gold Coast Australia.
18th August, 2018 is the opening ceremony for the 2018 Asian James at Jakarta, Indonesia.


Also check the list of sports ministers since 1991., none of them played sports or had anything to do with sports.

Mamata Banerjee (1991 – 1993) <-- Dumbo
Uma Bharti (7 November 2000 – 25 August 2002)
Sunil Dutt (2004 – 2005)[25]
Mani Shankar Aiyar (2005 – 2009) <--- The defacto paki in India.
M. S. Gill (28 May 2009 – 18 January 2011)
Ajay Maken (19 January 2011 – 28 October 2012)
Jitendra Singh (29 October 2012 – 25 May 2014)
Sarbananda Sonowal (20 May 2014 – 23 May 2016) <-- NAMO appointed him first
Jitendra Singh (23 May 2016 - 5 July 2016) <--- NAMO appointed him second
Vijay Goel (5 July 2016 – 2 September 2017) <-- NAMO appointed him third
Rajyavardhan Singh Rathore (3 September 2017 - present) <--- Current minister is 2004 Olympics silver medal winner. Sports minister for less than an year is already is already winning!

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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby Suraj » 13 Mar 2018 04:42

sum wrote:Wonder why we do so well in these world cups but fall away in olympics?

We've never done anywhere close to this well at the World Cup before. A gold from Bindra here or Narang there, and that's usually it. TOPPING the table ahead of US and China with four golds ? Young nobodies coming and shooting golds with WRs ? Never happened before.

Every year there are 5 World Cups, including year end final. Last year was our best performance. We won three gold medals. Sounds like we just won one more gold this time. But no, that's not the case. Last year we won 3 golds across five World Cups held over the year. This time we won 4 golds in the first of five world cups this year itself. There are four more left - we could quite possible end up with double digit golds.

We won more golds in one edition this time, than in all annual editions in any prior year. Typically we get 0-1 gold across all world cups in a year.

In summary, this is an enormous jump from anything in the past.

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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby Vips » 13 Mar 2018 18:27

What is needed is to identify athletes with world class potential and spend focused/good chunk of resources on them (training, kits, associated coach/staff, tournament exposure and most importantly a monthly stipend to make sure they do not have to worry about supporting their families). This in itself will go a long way in improving our Olympic performance. We will simply not get results based on the meager sports budget we have.
Great Britain increased its spending on sports to improve their Olympics performance and even beat Chinese to finish second best in the Rio medals tally.

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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby Suraj » 13 Mar 2018 20:46

We are moving up, though. The performance standards can be roughly viewed as (from the perspective of sports we care of):
CWG < AG < OG
At CWG: India at the Commonwealth Games
At AG: India at the Asian Games
The trend is unmistakable - significant improvement in medal count since the 2000s in both. 50+ medals in last four CWGs, finishing second at Delhi CWG2010. 50+ medals at all of the last 3 AGs, with double digit golds in the last four AGs and CWGs. We went from completely useless to top 3 contender in CWG level this century.

IMHO, getting 20+ golds in AG and 25-30+ in CWG would be a good barometer that we've moved up closer to OG performance level. We need to be smart about picking sports that provide easy upside where there's not a lot of white hot competition, e.g. how SoKo dominate archery . No point in training candidates for men's 100m, when US university level kids run faster than our current national record.

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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby Supratik » 13 Mar 2018 21:41

There is absolutely no focus on swimming and cycling - two sports with a lot of medals.

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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby Suraj » 13 Mar 2018 21:48

Supratik wrote:There is absolutely no focus on swimming and cycling - two sports with a lot of medals.

... and a lot of competition :)

We are nowhere in swimming at either CWG or AG, both of which are world standard. Cycling at CWG is world level with UK and Aus present. We need to target sports with:
a) no extremely high competition
b) performance upside
c) multiple individual events with short duration contests, e.g. not hockey, where 11 men need to play half a dozen matches to get ONE medal.

We already do this in shooting and wrestling. Weightlifting would be a good option for us if we'd clean up the doping act and focus. E/SE Asia are winning even Olympic medals in weightlifting lately, especially in womens. Indonesia and Thailand have OG womens medals recently in it.

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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby Prasad » 14 Mar 2018 10:25

True but breadth is important :) Setup pools and competitions and swimming will throw up not just munnas with access to pools but the poor guys too.

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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby sum » 14 Mar 2018 11:40

Vips wrote:What is needed is to identify athletes with world class potential and spend focused/good chunk of resources on them (training, kits, associated coach/staff, tournament exposure and most importantly a monthly stipend to make sure they do not have to worry about supporting their families). This in itself will go a long way in improving our Olympic performance. We will simply not get results based on the meager sports budget we have.

This laser focus on few athletes is exactly what we did with the OGQ and IA run programs before Rio but apprently, it all came a cropper.

I dont think it was for lack of inputs( money/material/focus) from the relevant authorities but the big guns failing at the big stage in choke moments.

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Re: Indian Sports and Entertainment Industry

Postby Suraj » 14 Mar 2018 13:27

Prasad wrote:True but breadth is important :) Setup pools and competitions and swimming will throw up not just munnas with access to pools but the poor guys too.

Swimming at the top level competitive arena is a highly technical event. In my opinion, the successes will not be predicated by talent. It will depend largely on our ability to develop a base of coaching staff. I think the Chinese do so well because they have developed a great institutional system of coaching combined with talent spotting. We have enough people to find talent from. But we're really far behind at coaching. In instances like badminton where someone like Gopichand devotes himself to coaching, the results are there to see. But we need far more people in various disciplines like him, willing to adapt ideas to suit our own abilities. The Chinese have the same thing - their badminton and table tennis coaches are past world champions. Badminton chief coach used to be Li Yongbo. TT head coach is Liu Guoliang.

Let's take swimming. While most short course swimmers are 6'5" giants, as you go a little longer, or even just to something like breaststroke, you can find champions who are quite short but skillful. The Japanese are great exponents at this. Most of their top swimmers are 5'9-5'11 . Quadruple Olympic gold medalist Kosuke Kitajima is just 5'10 . He won 100m and 200m breaststroke at both 2004 and 2008 Olympics. The silver and bronze medalists often tower over him. It's quite remarkable, and a testament to their ability to understand how to maximize the potential of what would otherwise be considered an uncompetitively sized physique.


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