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Re: Indian IT Industry

Postby GShankar » 17 Mar 2017 03:13

An interesting tweet about infosys maintaining ATP website.

source - https://twitter.com/bgtennisnation/stat ... 7237540865

sudhakara rao @pattabhivet
@bgtennisnation why ATP website was revamped..IBM is much better than infosys support. website always crash
4:48 PM - 15 Mar 2017

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Re: Indian IT Industry

Postby asgkhan » 20 Mar 2017 13:25

I am currently working on 2 projects, medium scale, a bit complicated. Following are the stakeholders.

Business, Developers (vendors/inhouse), testing team, environment management team, BA.

All of the above are in different countries. BA gets the product and requirement list with defects ready for implementation and fix. Dev and testing team are busy playing the blame game. Business is getting frustrated with the constant delays and changes in go-live date.

As a Proj Mgr,I have to step in to ensure that daily defect meeting goes well, vendors are brought in line else they provide a end of day update and disappear doing zilch.

Run the group chat so that focus and pressure is maintained.

I doubt if automation really will work in such complex, semi-complex scenarios.

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Re: Indian IT Industry

Postby Singha » 20 Mar 2017 17:11

Et telecom...

BENGALURU/NEW DELHI: Infosys has decided not to apply for H-1B visas for junior employees, three sources with knowledge of the matter told ET, as the IT company comes to terms with the prospect of a tougher regulations governing the work visas.

Indian IT firms have long been dependent on the work visa, but a rising tide of protectionism means they are beginning to adjust their business models to reduce their reliance on the visa.

“The company is not applying for visas for employees with under four years of experience. We are talking to clients about offshoring more work to India, and the work done by junior employees can be brought to India,” an executive at the company told ET.

A second executive confirmed that the company had not raised visa requests for systems engineers and senior systems engineers, among the lowest rungs in the Infosys corporate ladder.

Earlier this year, US Congressmen have proposed a bill raising the minimum wage on the H-1B visa to over $130,000, more than double of what is mandated today. The increased rhetoric around outsourcing has also made some Infosys clients wary of being serviced by more employees on the work visas. “There are job requirements in the US, but some customers have started asking that fewer H-1B employees be deployed onsite on their projects. We are trying to hire more onshore to deal with this issue,” a third Infosys executive said.

A cursory search for professional social networking site LinkedIn shows as many as 150 jobs advertised for locations in the US in the last month. Some of the jobs posted ask for as little as two years of experience.

Infosys, which has entered the silent period ahead of its fourth-quarter earnings results next month, declined to comment for this story. The company’s inability to apply for visas for junior employees is also creating another problem.

“One of the easiest ways to retain people when they expressed dissatisfaction was to say that we will begin their visa process. This can no longer be used. Managers are now trying to find different ways to keep people on board,” one of the executives quoted above said. He added that this was a problem that would be faced by the entire industry and not just Infosys.

Tata Consultancy Services said that it had operated in a self-imposed visa-constrained environment this year and had applied to get only about 15% of the visas for which it normally applies. The combination of far higher minimum wages and a tighter visa regime means that in the future, junior employees are unlikely to make the coveted trip onshore.
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Re: Indian IT Industry

Postby svinayak » 22 Mar 2017 21:41

asgkhan wrote:I am currently working on 2 projects, medium scale, a bit complicated. Following are the stakeholders.

Business, Developers (vendors/inhouse), testing team, environment management team, BA.

All of the above are in different countries. BA gets the product and requirement list with defects ready for implementation and fix. Dev and testing team are busy playing the blame game. Business is getting frustrated with the constant delays and changes in go-live date.

As a Proj Mgr,I have to step in to ensure that daily defect meeting goes well, vendors are brought in line else they provide a end of day update and disappear doing zilch.

Run the group chat so that focus and pressure is maintained.

I doubt if automation really will work in such complex, semi-complex scenarios.


They will cut down this globalization of work

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Re: Indian IT Industry

Postby asgkhan » 23 Mar 2017 10:37

How ??

https://www.theatlas.com/charts/rk-LjMk3x

Check the cost differential in the stats.

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Re: Indian IT Industry

Postby Sachin » 23 Mar 2017 11:12

Singha wrote:“One of the easiest ways to retain people when they expressed dissatisfaction was to say that we will begin their visa process. This can no longer be used. Managers are now trying to find different ways to keep people on board,” one of the executives quoted above said. He added that this was a problem that would be faced by the entire industry and not just Infosys.

I think it would be easier to tell every one that "IT is not the old cash rich cow of 2000s, please look for better options". This VISA process gimmick, I have seen it being used else where as well. But from what I could figure out, that gimmick only could retain people from a few specific geographies in India.

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Re: Indian IT Industry

Postby Singha » 23 Mar 2017 11:40

the salary does not project true picture . the cost of renting offices, food, transport, generator backup , security & housekeeping (ever notice the number of guards & pantry boys in any itvity) raises the cost of blr substantially vs countries with better infra even eastern european some sites.

for a place like massa, except in premier areas of sv, renting office is cheap, power is cheap and assured (ups will do no need for massive diesel gensets), security is 1 guy for 10 buildings using the cctv and police on automatica alarm trigger for L2, food is nonexistent or very limited timings and basic, housekeeping is late at night cut rate hispanic underclass to exploit, there is no office transport, HR is very small as headcount and training needs are low. insurance is expensive but being steadily slashed all the time. all of this does add up. water is cheap, here you pay the tanker guys.

the onlee thing none can match is a army a kabila horde of some 500,000 along a 10km orr stretch.

I would imagine blr is costlier than most parts of massa or europe per line of code delivered. but the kabila concept is hard to match - for now. higher degree of automation will however affect, esp BPO and KPO, already chatbots and FAQs are mounting a stout defence before you can reach a human.

other diff is the best in india are ok to work in blr, but the best in massa are far from ready to work in huntsville alabama or tampa fl or even lower cost locations....they want to work in sv, boston, denver, boulder, seatle, san diego and other cool high cost places.

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Re: Indian IT Industry

Postby arshyam » 23 Mar 2017 23:12

Is that chart adjusted for PPP?

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Re: Indian IT Industry

Postby KJo » 23 Mar 2017 23:41

asgkhan wrote:How ??

https://www.theatlas.com/charts/rk-LjMk3x

Check the cost differential in the stats.



These stats do not give the whole picture.
SV salaries may be highest but cost of living is very high too. In the end, what is one saving? Is it worth it? The answer is not clear cut.
There is a saying "you get what you pay for". Cheap isn't always best.

So many variables and decision has to be made depending on the situation.

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Re: Indian IT Industry

Postby Marten » 23 Mar 2017 23:47

At 8.6k USD, that average annual figure is supposed to be ~ Rs 6,50,000. My educated guess is that the operating costs alone would be between 3-5,00,000 per employee. I doubt and dispute that average salary figure as well. If it were true, would happily hire twice the number of developers and testers!


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