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Re: Indian IT Industry

Postby arshyam » 01 Jul 2019 18:54

Saar, as a paying customer, you are well within your rights to ask them for an explanation about the name. Companies are routinely questioned over their branding, so what's the harm in asking? While at it, you could also tell them why you find the name offensive and that you are inclined to take your business elsewhere.

Frankly, I don't think there was anything malicious about the name, especially when it is clearly a female name per their page. At best, it is tone deaf choice of name, but even the term "tone-deaf" implies that there is a tone and they didn't listen to it. Knowing our people, you would probably be the first guy to even think about complaining about the name - no one (sadly) cares about these things in our IT industry - it's always about impressing the gora customer, or thinking in western frames of reference. So much so, hardly a few Indians (me too is guilty of this) use Indic language options in software, resulting it in being crap most of the time. Same goes for branding - hardly any Indic brand names out there (Swiggy, Zomato, Ola, PayTM, Flipkart, BigBasket, Freshdesk, etc.). This name probably came out of such a thought process only.

Btw, Zoho has been operating out of India at least since 1999, when a family member worked there. It used to be called AdventNet back then and based out of Chennai. As with most startups, they were probably registered outside of India for red tape reasons, access to funding, etc.

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Re: Indian IT Industry

Postby darshan » 01 Jul 2019 20:16

Come on sir. Give me some credit here. There's been a feedback cycle. However, their explaining was more in line with what BRF is about. If it makes sense, their response easily cross correlated with TN thread on this forum.

And, I personally don't see anything wrong with Swiggy, Zomato, Ola, PayTM, Flipkart, BigBasket, Freshdesk, etc.

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Indian IT Industry

Postby Peregrine » 26 Jul 2019 19:02

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Re: Indian IT Industry

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Re: Indian IT Industry

Postby Vips » 13 Aug 2019 17:48

Reliance-Microsoft cloud tie-up poses threat to Amazon, Google in India.

Reliance Industries Ltd on Monday announced a partnership with Microsoft's Azure cloud platform, in a move that deepens the offerings of its Jio telecoms unit while posing a direct challenge to rival cloud services providers such as Amazon.com and Alphabet's Google.

As part of the 10-year alliance, Jio will build data centres across India that will be hosted on Microsoft's Azure cloud, Reliance Chairman Mukesh Ambani told shareholders at the company annual shareholders' meeting.

"We now have the capability to develop truly India-native solutions, including speech recognition and natural language understanding for all major Indian languages and dialects," said Ambani, Asia's richest man with a net worth of $46.2 billion according to Forbes.

Reliance's foray into the cloud services market - essentially selling computer services such as website hosting & data storage - could intensify competition in an Indian market dominated by Amazon Web Services (AWS), say analysts.

Ambani disrupted India's telecoms industry in late 2016 when he launched Jio with free voice and cut-price data plans, pushing some rivals out of business and forcing others to match tariffs and consolidate in a crowded sector that once comprised more than 10 carriers.

"Other cloud players like AWS and Google will have to come up with new, perhaps cheaper pricing models for India," said Satyajit Sinha, an analyst at tech consultancy Counterpoint.

Ambani has always dubbed Jio a technology company, and used it to launch internet-enabled devices, deliver entertainment services, build fibre broadband and develop other offerings.

The Reliance-Microsoft partnership could help Jio extend its services to India's booming start-up ecosystem.

On Monday, addressing Reliance shareholders via a recorded video message, Microsoft's Indian-born Chief Executive Satya Nadella said: "Together, we will offer comprehensive technology solutions – from compute and storage, to connectivity and productivity – to small and medium businesses everywhere in the country."

PRICE WAR
Jio would provide free connectivity and cloud infrastructure to start-ups, Ambani said, adding the company would offer a "bundle of connectivity, productivity and automation tools" to micro, small and medium business for as little as 1,500 rupees ($21.05) a month.

"This pricing of elementary services is really the rock bottom price," said Naveen Mishra, of tech researcher Gartner.

Rivals such as Amazon Web Services and Google offer similar services at multiple times that price, and technology analysts said Ambani's move could spark a price war in the Indian cloud market, expected to grow at an average 23% annually over the next five years to touch $5.6 billion.

Amazon's cloud services unit declined to comment on the matter. Google did not immediately respond to a request for comment. "We definitely will reassess whether we should keep using AWS or something else, because storage is a huge cost," said Aprameya Radhakrishna, the founder and CEO of Vokal, an audio-video knowledge-sharing platform similar to Quora. "India is a price conscious nation in general and anything which is competing on price will definitely get attention."

Reliance's big push into cloud services also comes as India, one of the world's fastest growing web services markets, is framing a data privacy law, drafts of which have emphasized storage of key consumer data locally.

The country's central bank has also asked foreign firms such as Mastercard and Visa to store payments data solely in India. "Companies that have a fairly mature IT adoption or those that are playing with a lot of Indian consumer data, they might prefer to move to (Reliance) because this data is guaranteed to be stored locally," said Krishna Iyer, an independent technology advisor who was previously a senior executive at cloud services firm Akamai Technologies.

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Re: Indian IT Industry

Postby rhytha » 14 Aug 2019 00:38

Vips wrote:Reliance-Microsoft cloud tie-up poses threat to Amazon, Google in India.


PRICE WAR
[u]Jio would provide free connectivity and cloud infrastructure to start-ups, Ambani said, adding the

"This pricing of elementary services is really the rock bottom price," said Naveen Mishra, of tech research
.


This is a good move.

If JioCloud can match AWS SLA they can easily gain market share, I assume prices are going to be cheap for open source os, but I guess for windows it won’t be since MS is partnering , so they will not compromise on this margins.

Also oracle, red hat and other commercial vendors would make their moola.

I think cloud object storage should and would come down drastically though, since it is not vendor specific

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Re: Indian IT Industry

Postby Bart S » 14 Aug 2019 01:47

rhytha wrote:
Vips wrote:Reliance-Microsoft cloud tie-up poses threat to Amazon, Google in India.


PRICE WAR
[u]Jio would provide free connectivity and cloud infrastructure to start-ups, Ambani said, adding the

"This pricing of elementary services is really the rock bottom price," said Naveen Mishra, of tech research
.


This is a good move.

If JioCloud can match AWS SLA they can easily gain market share, I assume prices are going to be cheap for open source os, but I guess for windows it won’t be since MS is partnering , so they will not compromise on this margins.

Also oracle, red hat and other commercial vendors would make their moola.

I think cloud object storage should and would come down drastically though, since it is not vendor specific


OS is irrelevant here, most of Microsoft Azure (including the MS developed and maintained systems are open source).

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Re: Indian IT Industry

Postby Vikas » 14 Aug 2019 11:37

rhytha wrote:
Vips wrote:Reliance-Microsoft cloud tie-up poses threat to Amazon, Google in India.


PRICE WAR
[u]Jio would provide free connectivity and cloud infrastructure to start-ups, Ambani said, adding the

Also oracle, red hat and other commercial vendors would make their moola.

I think cloud object storage should and would come down drastically though, since it is not vendor specific


How Rhytha ji ? How would other commercial product vendors like Oracle make moola unless they give away stuff for free ?
Moreover this would threaten Cloud service providers like GCP and OPC too once JIO cloud bandwagon starts rolling and eats up Govt & Private contracts due to price dominance.

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Re: Indian IT Industry

Postby rhytha » 14 Aug 2019 15:58

Bart S wrote:OS is irrelevant here, most of Microsoft Azure (including the MS developed and maintained systems are open source).


OS is being charged, please check the on-demand or reserved pricing on AWS or Azure or Rackspace and compare it with Ubuntu/Amazon Linux etc, the prices for windows/red hat have additional costs.

Please check this site for price difference

https://www.ec2instances.info/?min_memo ... .noUpfront

Vikas wrote:
rhytha wrote:


How Rhytha ji ? How would other commercial product vendors like Oracle make moola unless they give away stuff for free ?
Moreover this would threaten Cloud service providers like GCP and OPC too once JIO cloud bandwagon starts rolling and eats up Govt & Private contracts due to price dominance.


No its not free.

For oracle the licensing is little more complicated if you port the license to AWS/AZure, obviously its cheaper to move from on-premises oracle license to OPC cloud. It offers great benefits..

https://www.itassetmanagement.net/2017/ ... cle-cloud/

GCP offerings are weak for enterprises, they where not able to get much of a toe hold in enterprise market, and its retail offerings are expensive, AWS beat them in both markets. GCP us used mostly for the AI services.


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