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Even the fortuner has alternatives but nothing beats the innova for long distance cruising in india. That's why the prices have steadily gone up.
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Gurus, can this be implemented across the country?
https://twitter.com/aniltalwar2/status/ ... TwWXaq7wUQ ---> New number plates. 22 is the year. BH is for Bharat. Then the vehicle registration number. A is the vehicle segment. The advantage being that the vehicle can be driven in any state without the hassles of re-registration. One road one tax.
https://twitter.com/aniltalwar2/status/ ... TwWXaq7wUQ ---> New number plates. 22 is the year. BH is for Bharat. Then the vehicle registration number. A is the vehicle segment. The advantage being that the vehicle can be driven in any state without the hassles of re-registration. One road one tax.
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It will be, eventually. Currently only a few states have updated their systems to issue BH numbers. Since they'll lose some revenue, they aren't too enthusiastic.
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So max 9999 vehicles can be registered in each class per year? The numbering system seems flawed.
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The string after the "4928" number can have more alphabets. The number of combinations can be 9999 * 26 * 26 and so on...- potentially making it possible to register large number of vehicles.
Wonder if this is only for passenger cars or is available for trucks as well.
Wonder if this is only for passenger cars or is available for trucks as well.
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There's no reason the digits can't be alphanumeric. Rather than upto 26*26*10k = 6.76 million registrations per year, that would offer 36^6 which is over 2 billion.
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It's the same numbering system used by states, the format is different, that's all. So rest assured, there are plenty of numbers that can be assigned.
State level: MP 01 AB 1234
Bharat series equivalent: 22 BH 1234 AB
The '01' denotes the RTO code of MP state, and they can have up to 99 RTOs, which most states don't have. If needed, they can even make it a 3-digit code. With BH, since there is no RTO as such, the 2-digit year is used instead. As Suraj mentioned, there is the option of alpha-numerics as well, and it is used here (which means the 3rd digit would not be needed).
The 'AB' part starts with single letters (A, B, etc.) then moves on to a combination (AA, AB, etc.). In theory, it can take on a third letter as well if the two letter combination gets exhausted, but that's a long long way off.
State level: MP 01 AB 1234
Bharat series equivalent: 22 BH 1234 AB
The '01' denotes the RTO code of MP state, and they can have up to 99 RTOs, which most states don't have. If needed, they can even make it a 3-digit code. With BH, since there is no RTO as such, the 2-digit year is used instead. As Suraj mentioned, there is the option of alpha-numerics as well, and it is used here (which means the 3rd digit would not be needed).
The 'AB' part starts with single letters (A, B, etc.) then moves on to a combination (AA, AB, etc.). In theory, it can take on a third letter as well if the two letter combination gets exhausted, but that's a long long way off.
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Delhi does do that for its RTO codes.Suraj wrote:There's no reason the digits can't be alphanumeric. Rather than upto 26*26*10k = 6.76 million registrations per year, that would offer 36^6 which is over 2 billion.
For example: DL 3C AA 1234
Other states stick to numerals only like: KA 03 AA 1234
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It would be a great step for federal integration if this process is accelerated. At least compared to the US it would dramatically improve the picture in India. In the US one has to re-register their car within a particular duration upon interstate move. There are state level programs to notify authorities of those who are residing in the state while maintaining tags of another state in order to save on registration fees, e.g. Calif police has a site to notify them of such vehicles.
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Leave it to the peoples republic of California to harass individuals. Other states don’t care.
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A typical lithium car battery weighs 450kg. It has about 11 kg of lithium, nearly 14 kg of cobalt, 27 kg of nickel, more than 40 kg of copper, and 50 kg of graphite—as well as about 181 kg of steel, aluminium, and plastics.
Imagine the mining required for producing EV at scale.
https://twitter.com/a_basumallick/statu ... aOwjA&s=19
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Hope you know the difference between an under 5gm battery and 450kg Battery.
Disposal of Li Ion battery is already a headache and life threatening.
Risk of explosion during extraction process before disposal hence only India & China are doing this as EU norms are stringent.
https://twitter.com/Dhriyamana/status/1 ... O2xQg&s=19
Imagine the mining required for producing EV at scale.
https://twitter.com/a_basumallick/statu ... aOwjA&s=19
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Hope you know the difference between an under 5gm battery and 450kg Battery.
Disposal of Li Ion battery is already a headache and life threatening.
Risk of explosion during extraction process before disposal hence only India & China are doing this as EU norms are stringent.
https://twitter.com/Dhriyamana/status/1 ... O2xQg&s=19
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India loves French jets, but their cars? Good thing Citroen C3 is a mass market product
https://theprint.in/opinion/dashboard/i ... ct/987272/
15 June 2022
https://theprint.in/opinion/dashboard/i ... ct/987272/
15 June 2022
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All in Hindi, but the Indian 2 wheeler industry has been quite a success story completely sidelining the Chinese & becoming global brands.
Didn't know an Indian brand finally got around to developing their own engines
and they are pretty reliable:
Didn't know an Indian brand finally got around to developing their own engines
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Cummins and Tata Motors ink MoU to develop hydrogen-powered commercial vehicles
https://www.autocarpro.in/news-national ... cvs-113318
14 Nov 2022
https://twitter.com/autocarpro/status/1 ... dUPXjl4phQ ---> NEWS JUST IN: Cummins & Tata Motors ink MoU to develop hydrogen-powered CVs; India among first markets to get Cummins’ hydrogen engines; the B6.7H hydrogen engine with up to 290 hp (216 kW) output & 1200 Nm peak torque is an all-new engine platform.
https://www.autocarpro.in/news-national ... cvs-113318
14 Nov 2022
https://twitter.com/autocarpro/status/1 ... dUPXjl4phQ ---> NEWS JUST IN: Cummins & Tata Motors ink MoU to develop hydrogen-powered CVs; India among first markets to get Cummins’ hydrogen engines; the B6.7H hydrogen engine with up to 290 hp (216 kW) output & 1200 Nm peak torque is an all-new engine platform.
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Always used to Think Terrestrial Vehicles will Hydrogen converted to Electricity with Fuel cell in Vehicles. This looks like an ICE engine where Hydrogen gets Burned up with Atmospheric Oxygen in the Engine cylinder. Am I correct?
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^ That is correct. Toyota is also working on hydrogen combustion engines for cars.
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Never never never. Cheap plastic, reliability issues and shitty service. It is plague. Stay away.Rakesh wrote:India loves French jets, but their cars? Good thing Citroen C3 is a mass market product
https://theprint.in/opinion/dashboard/i ... ct/987272/
15 June 2022
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Ashok Leyland corporate presentation about a Hydrogen power internal combustion engine.
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Domestic passenger vehicle sales jump by 26.71% in FY23 to 3.889 million.
Domestic passenger vehicle (PV) sales jumped from 3.069 million in 2021-22 to 3.889 million in 2022-23, marking a 26.71 per cent increase due to high demand after the pandemic, even though certain supply chain issues continue to affect the market.
"Indian carmakers sold 3.889 million vehicles in FY23, which was higher than the pre-pandemic peak of 3.379 million observed in FY19," said Shashank Srivastava, Senior Executive Director (Sales and Marketing) at Maruti Suzuki India.
He said the Indian auto industry is expected to sell 4.01-4.05 million PVs in FY24, meaning that growth in FY24 is expected to be between 5 per cent and 7 per cent. Maruti Suzuki is expected to grow at a faster rate than the auto industry in FY24.
Maruti Suzuki, India's largest carmaker, sold 1.606 million PVs in India in FY23, a 20.68 per cent YoY growth. "These figures are a matter of satisfaction for us as we achieved these sales despite a lot of supply chain issues," Srivastava said. While the semiconductor chip shortage situation is easing up, it is still affecting the production of certain models.
Srivastava said that the sport utility vehicle (SUV) segment saw the highest growth, 35.9 per cent, among all car segments in FY23. In comparison, the hatchback segment saw volume growth of just 20 per cent in FY23. He added that while only 23.2 per cent of cars sold in India were SUVs in FY19, this share increased to 43 per cent in FY23.
He said that certain models such as Celerio, S-Presso, and Wagon R are easily available and, therefore, have higher discounts. In comparison, car models like Brezza, where the waiting period is much higher, do not have that level of discount.
Srivastava said that rising interest rates, lower-than-expected economic growth, geopolitical churn, hikes in commodity prices, changes in emission norms, and El Nino's effect on rural demand could be the red flags for the Indian auto industry's growth.
India's second-largest carmaker, Hyundai, sold 567,546 units in FY23, a 17.87 per cent YoY growth. Tarun Garg, Chief Operating Officer at Hyundai Motor India Limited, said, "FY22-23 has been a phenomenal year for Hyundai Motor India, as we introduced seven segment-defining products. Despite global headwinds, we see momentum in the Indian auto industry backed by the strong India growth story led by Gen MZ."
Tata Motors, India's third-largest carmaker, saw a 45.43 per cent growth in PV sales in FY23. Shailesh Chandra, Managing Director at Tata Motors Passenger Vehicles and Tata Passenger Electric Mobility said, "FY23 has set a new record for passenger vehicle sales in India. The steep growth witnessed by the industry was driven by post-Covid-19 pent-up demand in the early part of the year, the launch of several new vehicles, and easing of the semiconductor shortage."
While SUVs and EVs (electric vehicles) led this growth, customers' rising preference for safe vehicles and smart technology features was equally pronounced, Chandra noted. Tata Motors holds more than 80% market share in the Indian electric car segment.
Looking ahead, Tata Motors expects the demand for personal vehicles to remain robust with the trend of electrification further strengthening as more options are coming and the overall EV ecosystem (charging, etc), is improving, Chandra said.
"However, the growth rate of the passenger vehicle industry may moderate due to a strong base effect as well as macro factors including hardening interest rates, rising inflation, and the cost impact from progressive regulatory norms. We continue to stay agile, carefully monitoring the supply situation, particularly semiconductors and any potential waves of Covid-19," he added.
Domestic passenger vehicle (PV) sales jumped from 3.069 million in 2021-22 to 3.889 million in 2022-23, marking a 26.71 per cent increase due to high demand after the pandemic, even though certain supply chain issues continue to affect the market.
"Indian carmakers sold 3.889 million vehicles in FY23, which was higher than the pre-pandemic peak of 3.379 million observed in FY19," said Shashank Srivastava, Senior Executive Director (Sales and Marketing) at Maruti Suzuki India.
He said the Indian auto industry is expected to sell 4.01-4.05 million PVs in FY24, meaning that growth in FY24 is expected to be between 5 per cent and 7 per cent. Maruti Suzuki is expected to grow at a faster rate than the auto industry in FY24.
Maruti Suzuki, India's largest carmaker, sold 1.606 million PVs in India in FY23, a 20.68 per cent YoY growth. "These figures are a matter of satisfaction for us as we achieved these sales despite a lot of supply chain issues," Srivastava said. While the semiconductor chip shortage situation is easing up, it is still affecting the production of certain models.
Srivastava said that the sport utility vehicle (SUV) segment saw the highest growth, 35.9 per cent, among all car segments in FY23. In comparison, the hatchback segment saw volume growth of just 20 per cent in FY23. He added that while only 23.2 per cent of cars sold in India were SUVs in FY19, this share increased to 43 per cent in FY23.
He said that certain models such as Celerio, S-Presso, and Wagon R are easily available and, therefore, have higher discounts. In comparison, car models like Brezza, where the waiting period is much higher, do not have that level of discount.
Srivastava said that rising interest rates, lower-than-expected economic growth, geopolitical churn, hikes in commodity prices, changes in emission norms, and El Nino's effect on rural demand could be the red flags for the Indian auto industry's growth.
India's second-largest carmaker, Hyundai, sold 567,546 units in FY23, a 17.87 per cent YoY growth. Tarun Garg, Chief Operating Officer at Hyundai Motor India Limited, said, "FY22-23 has been a phenomenal year for Hyundai Motor India, as we introduced seven segment-defining products. Despite global headwinds, we see momentum in the Indian auto industry backed by the strong India growth story led by Gen MZ."
Tata Motors, India's third-largest carmaker, saw a 45.43 per cent growth in PV sales in FY23. Shailesh Chandra, Managing Director at Tata Motors Passenger Vehicles and Tata Passenger Electric Mobility said, "FY23 has set a new record for passenger vehicle sales in India. The steep growth witnessed by the industry was driven by post-Covid-19 pent-up demand in the early part of the year, the launch of several new vehicles, and easing of the semiconductor shortage."
While SUVs and EVs (electric vehicles) led this growth, customers' rising preference for safe vehicles and smart technology features was equally pronounced, Chandra noted. Tata Motors holds more than 80% market share in the Indian electric car segment.
Looking ahead, Tata Motors expects the demand for personal vehicles to remain robust with the trend of electrification further strengthening as more options are coming and the overall EV ecosystem (charging, etc), is improving, Chandra said.
"However, the growth rate of the passenger vehicle industry may moderate due to a strong base effect as well as macro factors including hardening interest rates, rising inflation, and the cost impact from progressive regulatory norms. We continue to stay agile, carefully monitoring the supply situation, particularly semiconductors and any potential waves of Covid-19," he added.
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India NCAP crash test ratings for automobiles were supposed to launch from April 1st of this year. Not seeing these ratings mentioned so far...has the auto lobby managed to quietly post-pone the time frame?
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I guess with an election year, it will put most of Maruti and Hyundai products out of reach of many people.
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Government plans rating of cars from October
TNN / Dipak Dash / Updated: Jun 30, 2023, 06:16 IST
STOCKHOLM: The road transport ministry has finalised India's own regime of star rating of cars on safety parameters,
BNCAP, and has proposed to start it from October 1, a move that will force car makers to provide in-built safety features and help buyers opt for safer cars, reports Dipak Dash.
The new car assessment programme will give safety ratings to new cars in the range of"One to Five" based on the test results. The Bharat New Car Assessment Programme (BNCAP) will host the star ratings and test results on its website after approval of an apex committee, which will be set up by the central government. To begin with, the ratings will be voluntary and samples for testing will be either offered by the original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) or can be randomly picked up by the BNCAP authority from dealers' showrooms as well.
The new regime will also help domestic car manufacturers as they won't need to send their samples abroad for testing and star rating, which is very expensive. Currently, India has mandatory crash test norms for cars for structural safety and the starrating will be of superior standard. The rating will be based on three features - Adult Occupant Protection (
AOP), Child Occupant Protection (COP) and Safety Assist Technologies(SAT).
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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/aut ... 377453.cms
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TNN / Dipak Dash / Updated: Jun 30, 2023, 06:16 IST
STOCKHOLM: The road transport ministry has finalised India's own regime of star rating of cars on safety parameters,
BNCAP, and has proposed to start it from October 1, a move that will force car makers to provide in-built safety features and help buyers opt for safer cars, reports Dipak Dash.
The new car assessment programme will give safety ratings to new cars in the range of"One to Five" based on the test results. The Bharat New Car Assessment Programme (BNCAP) will host the star ratings and test results on its website after approval of an apex committee, which will be set up by the central government. To begin with, the ratings will be voluntary and samples for testing will be either offered by the original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) or can be randomly picked up by the BNCAP authority from dealers' showrooms as well.
The new regime will also help domestic car manufacturers as they won't need to send their samples abroad for testing and star rating, which is very expensive. Currently, India has mandatory crash test norms for cars for structural safety and the starrating will be of superior standard. The rating will be based on three features - Adult Occupant Protection (
AOP), Child Occupant Protection (COP) and Safety Assist Technologies(SAT).
Read Full News From Here//
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/aut ... 377453.cms
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Finally...... Mindset change in right direction
Safety overtakes fuel economy, new survey finds most people want cars with safety rating
https://auto.economictimes.indiatimes.c ... /101331807
9 out of 10 customers in India want cars with a safety rating: Survey
https://www.financialexpress.com/auto/c ... y/3145995/
Skoda commissioned study says 90% Indians want car with safety rating
https://www.rushlane.com/skoda-study-sa ... 72952.html
Safety overtakes fuel economy, new survey finds most people want cars with safety rating
https://auto.economictimes.indiatimes.c ... /101331807
9 out of 10 customers in India want cars with a safety rating: Survey
https://www.financialexpress.com/auto/c ... y/3145995/
Skoda commissioned study says 90% Indians want car with safety rating
https://www.rushlane.com/skoda-study-sa ... 72952.html
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Right now Hyundai, Kia and Maruti are focusing on features and pricing Vs safety. And they are big2. Once VW, Honda, Tata, Mahindra start really getting heavy market share, we can believe this.