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Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby ArjunPandit » 08 Nov 2017 05:08

Karthik S wrote:Bullet train to link Hyderabad with Amaravati

There were some feasibility studies for hyperloop too. Good thing is there is a fresh thinking and people are not flogging a dead horse

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby Karthik S » 08 Nov 2017 08:57

Also, Hyd-Amaravati can be extended till Chennai, although it's a longer route 730 km.

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby disha » 08 Nov 2017 13:42

Karthik S wrote:Bullet train to link Hyderabad with Amaravati

http://www.thehansindia.com/posts/index ... ati/337958


I think this is a trial balloon., or at best maybe a feasibility study announcement.

Politically., and this is world over., if the bullet train/HSR or any new high visible infrastructure project is not coming to your part of town (or region) it will be severely criticized as wasteful spending. And in the sidelines, lobbying will be going on to get that project to your part of town.

There is of course a need to have a HSR going from Hyderabad to Vijayawada to Tirupati to Chennai. In fact., one can have an HSR following the route of NavJeevan Express (Chennai-Vijawada-Warangal-Wardha-Bhusaval-Surat) and the Hyderabad-Warangal is an additional spur that is anyway necessary and another is Hyderabad - Guntur. And anyway this line is tricky in the sense - Guntur/Vijaywada are separated by 55 Km only! So an HSR in between would be better :rotfl:

Connecting Shamsabad to Gooty to Bengaluru and a quick metro to Secunderabad/Kacheguda from Shamsabad will be another HSR layout and create a triangle connecting major centers in South (the third route in this is Bengaluru to Chennai)

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby ArjunPandit » 08 Nov 2017 19:35

disha wrote:I have to with heavy heart and regrets admit that our beloved Fmr Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan Singh., eminent economist who presided over enormous heights of corruption has indeed gone senile.


Or follow the maxim: Never trust an eCONomist - particularly ones who are politically motivated.[/quote]
For as a matter of fact he's not wrong. We need to rectify our existing rail infrastructure. Where he gets wrong is a linear way of solving will get the results. It's a problem similar to adding more DTC buses in Delhi in '90 or go for Delhi metro.
Where he's wrong is that he's politically motivated and possibly acting on cues of Gandhi family.

Whether we need a linear solution through massive investment in our existing capacities or through non linear solutions e.g. Bullet train. Its neither of and or. Perhaps it is both. So he's certainly politically motivated but certainly not senile, he's even worse and that is cunning.

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby Supratik » 09 Nov 2017 22:36

It seems Mumbai monorail is in deep doodoo. One of the trains caught fire and got partially burnt. Scomi is in bankruptcy and it has become a white elephant. Source SSC.

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby Deans » 10 Nov 2017 10:20

Mollick.R wrote:Lots of confusion & fog on the air on the matter.

Even with IR's clarification there are few doubts. Like....

1. Between Mumbai & Ahmedabad a normal train have average 10-12 stops & with that the occupancy (load factor) is 103%.
2. Fares between intermediate stations will be as much as that of from start (Mumbai) to final terminating station (Ahmbd)
3. How will bullet train achieve break even with high capital investment , less number of station & much higher fares (may lead to less users). :shock: :?:


The alternative to a high speed train is air - as is the case wherever high speed trains are introduced. Not slower trains.
Given CURRENT capacity of Mumbai airport, it will soon be difficult to have ANY flights to Ahmedabad or Baroda . The airport is saturated and
any flights will be to destinations further away. Anyone wishing to travel quickly between Mumbai and Gujarat will have to take the bullet train
as long as the fare is equal to or cheaper than air. IR concluded several years ago (when Mamta was RM) that Mumbai-Ahmedabad was the most
feasible city pair to have a high speed train.
Incidentally, a high speed train will also be faster and cheaper than taking a taxi from South Mumbai to Virar or Thane (as many people do today).

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby arvin » 10 Nov 2017 13:44

People using shinkansen as a Virar local to reach from bkc to virar will be the ultimate use of the train.

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby Suraj » 11 Nov 2017 02:08

arvin wrote:People using shinkansen as a Virar local to reach from bkc to virar will be the ultimate use of the train.

Please don't use this thread for flippant one-liner comments .

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby arvin » 11 Nov 2017 17:03

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/in ... 584544.cms

In a move that could reduce costs and quicken construction of the ambitious Mumbai-Ahmedabad bullet train, the road transport and highways ministry offered right of way to the railways to build part of the project alongside the upcoming 380-km Vadodara-Mumbai expressway.


The Indian Railways is yet to acquire land for the Rs 1.08 lakh crore bullet train project. The government aims to complete the Japanese International Cooperation Agencyfunded project by August 2022.

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby SBajwa » 14 Nov 2017 21:49

How do you book Train to/from Delhi to Agra from outside of India?

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby sanjayc » 14 Nov 2017 22:57

SBajwa wrote:How do you book Train to/from Delhi to Agra from outside of India?


Foreigners and NRIs would now be able to book train tickets in India online by using international debit and credit cards through IRCTC website.
Till now foreigners and NRIs could book their train tickets in India using only American Express International Credit Cards which were accepted at IRCTC portal through American Express (AMEX) Payment Gateway. Other International Cards are not accepted for payments as on date.

Other international cards are not accepted for payments till now but from now on foreigners can book their tickets abroad using their cards, said IRCTC CMD AK Manocha.

IRCTC will now permit other international credit and debit cards issued outside the country for booking of e-tickets through its ticketing site as it has made necessary changes in the system to enable global transactions.

Mr Manocha said acceptance of all global cards will fulfill the longstanding demand of foreign tourists as they will be able to book e-tickets directly and will no longer depend on other agencies for the purpose.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/foreign ... ds-1401052

IRCTC website: https://www.irctc.co.in/eticketing/loginHome.jsf

Foreign tourist quota booking: http://contents.irctc.co.in/en/ForeignT ... ooking.pdf

Registration guide for NRI's / Foreign Tourists
http://contents.irctc.co.in/en/Internat ... _guide.pdf

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby Karthik S » 16 Nov 2017 19:28

Good coordination between Railways and Road ministries.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/in ... /&from=mdr

In a move that could reduce costs and quicken construction of the ambitious Mumbai-Ahmedabad bullet train, the road transport and highways ministry offered right of way to the railways to build part of the project alongside the upcoming 380-km Vadodara-Mumbai expressway.
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According to the official, the move could save Rs 10,000 crore to Rs 12,000 crore for both the road and railway ministries and save the railways the task of acquiring land for the 380-km route. The total length of the bullet train project is 508 km. If the bullet train is aligned with the expressway, the railways would only need to acquire land between Ahmedabad and Vadodara.


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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby JayS » 16 Nov 2017 19:48

Karthik S wrote:Good coordination between Railways and Road ministries.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/in ... /&from=mdr

In a move that could reduce costs and quicken construction of the ambitious Mumbai-Ahmedabad bullet train, the road transport and highways ministry offered right of way to the railways to build part of the project alongside the upcoming 380-km Vadodara-Mumbai expressway.
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According to the official, the move could save Rs 10,000 crore to Rs 12,000 crore for both the road and railway ministries and save the railways the task of acquiring land for the 380-km route. The total length of the bullet train project is 508 km. If the bullet train is aligned with the expressway, the railways would only need to acquire land between Ahmedabad and Vadodara.



Brilliant move. Hope they can make it happen. Could be used as model for other places too.

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby schinnas » 16 Nov 2017 20:23

Is the expressway a straight line for most part? Bullet train route cannot have much turn and even in rare case of turn, the radius has to be very large.
Instead of aligning train route to road route, it should be the other way. A technical feasibility study alone can answer if this is possible.

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby Karthik S » 16 Nov 2017 20:31

schinnas wrote:Is the expressway a straight line for most part? Bullet train route cannot have much turn and even in rare case of turn, the radius has to be very large.
Instead of aligning train route to road route, it should be the other way. A technical feasibility study alone can answer if this is possible.


Don't know accuracy of this line, but seems straight enough. But looks like HSR line will deviate a little to touch the planned cities.

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