Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby chetak » 28 Sep 2020 19:19

rajkumar wrote:
nam wrote:Finally a modern train is going to be manufactured fully in India. Now even if Bombardier leaves, the ecosystem can be used to build our trainset.

Capital city of the states can induct some of these trains on the existing trainlines.


Nam, these trainsets can't be used on the IR network. The RRTS system is a standard gauge as opposed to Indian Railways broad gauge.


why do you think that bombardier would readily not adapt their trainset to the IR network if required.

if they don't, then they simply don't sell to the IR.

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby Aditya_V » 28 Sep 2020 20:05

I was thinking about it, is bombardier Railway linked to extension of Delhi Metro system which runs on Standard gauge?

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby nam » 28 Sep 2020 21:18

Private entrants using IR tracks would probably go for these trainset with the required modification. They are modern and produced in India, so cheaper to operate as well.

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby chetak » 29 Sep 2020 16:53

who knew.............. 8)


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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby kvraghav » 29 Sep 2020 17:42

^^^
Which means more chances of missing my stop.

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby sankum » 29 Sep 2020 17:51

My pulse is 88. Therefore I don't get sound sleep in train. :rotfl:

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby Rohit_K » 29 Sep 2020 20:43

Work has started on dilli's second RRTS line

KEC Begins Construction on Delhi – Alwar RRTS’ Gurgaon Section
Workers from KEC – CCECC JV and Pinnacle Piling have quietly started piling work near Gurgaon’s Atul Kataria Chowk for constructing the National Capital Region’s second Regional Rapid Transit System (RRTS) line connecting Delhi – Gurugram – SNB (Shahjahanpur – Neemrana – Behrod) through a 106.5 km mostly elevated line with 16 stations.

Like the 82.15 km Delhi – Meerut RRTS line, the Delhi – SNB RRTS line will also have a design speed of 180 km per hour and an operating speed of 160 km per hour. In the future, it will be extended further southward to Sotanala by 35 km and to Alwar by 58 km.


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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby CalvinH » 30 Sep 2020 23:35

Rohit_K wrote:Work has started on dilli's second RRTS line

KEC Begins Construction on Delhi – Alwar RRTS’ Gurgaon Section
Workers from KEC – CCECC JV and Pinnacle Piling have quietly started piling work near Gurgaon’s Atul Kataria Chowk for constructing the National Capital Region’s second Regional Rapid Transit System (RRTS) line connecting Delhi – Gurugram – SNB (Shahjahanpur – Neemrana – Behrod) through a 106.5 km mostly elevated line with 16 stations.

Like the 82.15 km Delhi – Meerut RRTS line, the Delhi – SNB RRTS line will also have a design speed of 180 km per hour and an operating speed of 160 km per hour. In the future, it will be extended further southward to Sotanala by 35 km and to Alwar by 58 km.



why do they need elevated tracks in this section? It will just increase the cost.

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby Vips » 02 Oct 2020 04:12

Indian Railways creates another record! RCF rolls out its highest number of LHB coaches in a month.

The coach manufacturing factory of Indian Railways has achieved the highest ever Linke Hofmann Busch (LHB) coaches roll out. According to details shared by the national transporter, in the financial year 2020-21, the Rail Coach Factory has manufactured as many as 152 LHB train coaches in the month of September. In the last financial year of 2019-20, the Rail Coach Factory had manufactured 69 LHB coaches during the same month. The LHB train coaches were introduced on the Indian Railways network for the first time in the year 2000.

According to details shared by the national transporter, in the financial year 2019-20, the Rail Coach Factory had manufactured 34 LHB coaches in April, 63 LHB coaches in May, 61 LHB coaches in June, 65 LHB coaches in July, 74 LHB coaches in August, 69 LHB coaches in September, 71 LHB coaches in October, 79 LHB coaches in November, 92 LHB coaches in December, 103 LHB coaches in January, 101 LHB coaches in February, 116 LHB coaches in March. While in the financial year 2020-21 so far, the Rail Coach Factory had manufactured 2 LHB coaches in April, 48 LHB coaches in May, 107 LHB coaches in June, 151 LHB coaches in July, 141 LHB coaches in August, and a total of 152 LHB coaches in September.

Unlike Integral Coach Factory (ICF)- design train coaches, the modern LHB coaches that are based on German technology, supports higher carrying capacity and higher speed potential. Also, LHB train coaches are lighter in weight and boast anti-climbing features, which prevents them from getting piled up during rail accidents. The first 100 per cent ‘Make in India’ LHB train coach was manufactured in the year 2017 by ICF, Chennai.

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby Vips » 02 Oct 2020 04:14

Despite COVID-19 restrictions, Indian Railways CLW produces 135 locomotives in 119 working days.

Indian Railways’ Chittaranjan Locomotive Works produces a total of 40 electric locomotives in September 2020! With this, the locomotive manufacturing factory has produced as many as 135 locomotives in the year 2020-21 in a period of just 119 working days. Interestingly, according to the details shared by the national transporter, this figure was achieved by the Chittaranjan Locomotive Works (CLW) as against 135 number of locomotives produced in 122 working days in the year 2019-20. The CLW achieved this figure despite the lockdown in the months of April and May as well as the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic related restrictions.

According to details shared by Indian Railways, in the financial year 2019-20, the CLW produced as many as 50 locomotives in 56 working days (achieved on 7 June 2019), 100 number of locomotives in 97 working days (achieved on 25 July 2019), and a total of 135 locomotives in 122 working days (achieved on 24 August 2019). While in the financial year 2020-21, the CLW manufactured 50 number of locomotives in 70 working days (achieved on 22 July 2020), as many as 100 locomotives in 102 working days (achieved on 8 September 2020) and a total of 135 locomotives in 119 working days (achieved on 30 September 2020).

Despite the COVID-19 related restrictions coming into force on 21 March 2020, the CLW had created another record in producing the highest number of locos. During the fiscal year 2019-20, the locomotive manufacturing factory produced a total of 431 locos. Interestingly, the factory had surpassed its own record of producing a total of 402 number of locos in the financial year 2018-19, which was recognized as a World Record by the Limca Book of Records. The factory manufactured 250 electric locos in 2014-15, 280 locos in 2015-16, 292 locos in 2016-17, 350 locos in 2017-18, 402 locos in 2018-19.

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby rajkumar » 02 Oct 2020 14:22

CalvinH wrote:why do they need elevated tracks in this section? It will just increase the cost.


This is because of the cost of land acquisition in India is so high and takes so long. The NCR RRTS is being built in the median of existing highways and uses elevated tracks for most of the way apart from sections in Delhi which are being tunnelled.

I personally approve of this method of construction...given India's density of population we need a balance and while elevated tracks are more expensive they also have advantages the principal one is that we don't need to access control the tracks. Imagine having farm animals wondering onto the tracks when the train is travelling at 160 Kmph.

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby Rohit_K » 08 Oct 2020 18:23

Alstom & Siemens Bid for Delhi – Meerut RRTS’ Signalling System
https://themetrorailguy.com/2020/10/08/ ... ng-system/

Alstom and Siemens are the two firms that have submitted bids for providing the signaling, train control and telecommunication system (Package 24) of the under construction 82.15 km Delhi – Meerut RRTS Line, after officials from the National Capital Region Transport Corporation (NCRTC) opened tenders minutes ago to reveal its list of bidders.

Per the system specifications issued by NCRTC, the Delhi – Meerut RRTS line will be the first in India to adopt the European Train Control System (ETCS) Level 2 signalling system which is the core signalling and train control component of the European Rail Traffic Management System (ERTMS) of standards.

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby chetak » 08 Oct 2020 20:16

rajkumar wrote:
CalvinH wrote:why do they need elevated tracks in this section? It will just increase the cost.


This is because of the cost of land acquisition in India is so high and takes so long. The NCR RRTS is being built in the median of existing highways and uses elevated tracks for most of the way apart from sections in Delhi which are being tunnelled.

I personally approve of this method of construction...given India's density of population we need a balance and while elevated tracks are more expensive they also have advantages the principal one is that we don't need to access control the tracks. Imagine having farm animals wondering onto the tracks when the train is travelling at 160 Kmph.


the land acquisition mess was a land mine insidiously planted by the BIF run NAC lobby to hobble the Modi govt.

they have succeeded spectacularly so far as this has become a major stumbling block in large projects and FDI has also been significantly affected because of this percieved lack of availability of viable land parcels to set up large industries.

big landholders and politicos are vehemently against any changes to the land acquisition bill as it has been drafted by the congis and it is the mafia famiglia's huge gift to the commies and naxals and the farmers have been fed stories of being paid many multiple times of the perceived value of the land in case of their land being taken over.

we need something like the eminient domain bill that the US has to acquire land for public projects like roads, railways, industrial estates and public spaces for the common good.

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby A Nandy » 09 Oct 2020 10:51

https://indiainfrahub.com/2020/featured ... tion-work/

Bullet Train Project Gathers Steam; Invites Bids For Viaduct & Station Work

Gathering steam, the bullet train project has moved forward with firming up technical bids for corridor alignment and station building work amid the pandemic situation.

National High Speed Rail Corporation Limited has invited bids for design and construction of about 18 km of viaduct between Anand and Sabarmati including bullet train stations at Ahmedabad and Sabarmati for Mumbai-Ahmedabad High Speed Rail corridor.

The alignment also has 31 crossing bridges including six steel truss bridges.

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby A Nandy » 10 Oct 2020 19:08

https://www.quora.com/How-is-Indian-Rai ... &srid=n0X6

How is Indian Railways generating revenue, since passenger services are heavily curtailed due to COVID-19?

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby Mollick.R » 12 Oct 2020 12:22

Only AC coaches on trains running at over 130 kmph
TNN | Oct 12, 2020, 02.41 AM IST

NEW DELHI: Railways will phase out sleeper coaches on mail and express trains that will run at 130 kmph or above on its tracks. Such trains will have only AC coaches as it plans to upgrade the network.
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He added AC coaches have become a technical necessity wherever the speed of the train is going to be above 130 kmph. “Non-AC coaches will continue to run in trains running at 110 kmph…It will be ensured that while the price of tickets of modified AC coaches remains very affordable for the passengers, the comfort and conveniences increase manifold and there is substantial reduction in travel time,” he said. The spokesperson said currently an 83-berth coach is being designed. There is a plan to have 100 such coaches this year and 200 in the next year.


Officials said that the new AC coaches will be economical as their tickets will be priced between AC 3 and sleeper coaches. Compared to 72 berths in a sleeper coach, this new AC coach will have 83 berths, but the number of berths in a coupe will remain the same. However, there will be no extra middle berth between side-upper and side-lower berths. How ? Length of Coach is being increased ?? or Space near both toilet's end currently used for storing blanket etc will be used ??? :roll:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/only-ac-coaches-on-trains-running-at-over-130-kmph/articleshow/78610891.cms


Indian Railways To Replace Sleeper Coaches With New AC Coaches With 83 Berths In Coming Years
by Swarajya Staff-Oct 11, 2020 04:48 PM
https://swarajyamag.com/insta/indian-railways-to-replace-sleeper-coaches-with-new-ac-coaches-with-83-berths-in-coming-years

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby arshyam » 12 Oct 2020 13:36

Mollick.R wrote: How ? Length of Coach is being increased ?? or Space near both toilet's end currently used for storing blanket etc will be used ???

I was wondering about this too - but there is a catch. The 72 berths is for the traditional "ICF" design coaches. LHB coaches are longer and so provide an extra bay with 8 berths (in SL), so that's 80 already. I believe they'll add a half-bay with 3 berths to this, hence 83. The half-bay is present in some older ICF 2A coaches next to the entrance - the other half is taken by some storage area (sheets and pillows?). Maybe LHB coaches have a similar arrangement, not sure. I sure hope they don't cut down on the toilets or the doors - it will become a comfort as well as a safety issue. The other option, is of course to bring back Laloo's infamous side-middle berths (shudder), and I am glad to see the article quoted some officials saying that it won't happen.

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby pandyan » 17 Oct 2020 10:45

Looks like we missed this Train 18 news. Whoever filed a false complaint ...will they face any music?
It is confusing why they are going after Mr. Shubhranshu with a fresh case.

https://twitter.com/SJha1618/status/1317055548714405888
W.r.t the Train-18 ICF investigation:
The CVC in a note said the clause “found to be restrictive by the Railway Board does not appear to be restrictive in view of the response received against the tenders".
There you have it folks.
...But what does this episode say about how India treats those who dare to innovate in the public sector?


CVC drops action against top officials of Train18 team ( September 15, 2020)
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/cvc-drops-action-against-top-railways-officials/article32613114.ece
According to sources in the Indian Railways, the CVC has advised that no action be taken against the then General Manager Sudanshu Mani; Principal Chief Mechanical Engineer Shubhranshu; Principal Chief Electrical Engineer N. K. Gupta; Chief Design Engineer S. P. Vavre; and others, who were facing allegations of irregularities in the purchase of three-phase propulsion equipment for Electrical Multiple Units (EMUs), Mainline Electrical Multiple Unit, and Train18 (Vande Bharat Express).


Fresh case
Meanwhile, the Vigilance Directorate of the Railway Board has initiated a fresh case against Mr. Shubhranshu, the officer whose name was dropped from the panel of officers approved by the Appointments Committee of the Cabinet for posting as a General Manager in the Zonal Railways.

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby ManuJ » 18 Oct 2020 00:05

Indian bureaucracy is full of over-inflated egos and risk-averse brains.
The problem, as far as the Railway Board is concerned, is that Mr. Mani and his team tried to innovate and actually succeeded against all odds. That's an anomaly that has to be viewed with suspicion.
On top of that, they failed to give credit to the mighty board even as they stole the limelight and caught the imagination of the nation. Shame on them.

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby durairaaj » 18 Oct 2020 02:12

Regarding Train 18 issue:
What no news article discusses is the role played by the CEO. The CEO is a post created by the present government and the person occupying the post is very close to administration and came from Electrical branch. His earlier posting was the Chairman of the board of railways. There is no discussion on his role in this train 18 saga by any of the newspapers.

In all other positive news, we read about his contributions or opinions such as in Railways electrification, Human resources improvement, train time table changes, railways freight transport increase, etc... But not in Train 18.

While the BJP government wants Atmanirbhar in all departments, with respect to train 18 it did not utter a single word. What was essentially an Indian design, that's working perfectly good without any glitch, has been discarded to dustbin and we are going rounds after rounds of tender issuals and dismissals.

Though Vande bharat (Train 18) is better than all of the other trains in Railways operation, we read more news on Tejas Express.

There is something more fishy in this witch hunting than usual scams, especially the role of current CEO and Railways minister's inaction.

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby arshyam » 18 Oct 2020 08:47

The railway minister has been particularly underwhelming. I wish we had Suresh Prabhu back in the ministry - he was the one who had given full backing to the T-18, IIRC.

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby darshhan » 18 Oct 2020 20:13

rajkumar wrote:
CalvinH wrote:why do they need elevated tracks in this section? It will just increase the cost.


This is because of the cost of land acquisition in India is so high and takes so long. The NCR RRTS is being built in the median of existing highways and uses elevated tracks for most of the way apart from sections in Delhi which are being tunnelled.

I personally approve of this method of construction...given India's density of population we need a balance and while elevated tracks are more expensive they also have advantages the principal one is that we don't need to access control the tracks. Imagine having farm animals wondering onto the tracks when the train is travelling at 160 Kmph.



I would like to add two more points to this.

1. Over the last two decades, many Indian companies have acquired the experience and machinery to execute such projects through metro contracts in various cities all over India. As such now they are able to give competitive rates for these projects. Lot of skilled manpower has been created. Lots of machinery has been amortized. Plus these companies have further created their own eco system of cost efficient vendors who provide specialized services.

2. Lot of sections both concrete as well as steel for eg viaduct sections, girders etc are all pre fabricated at some workshop away from construction site. This ensures better quality and cost. Also it ensures faster completion of project, thereby further reducing the costs.

At the end of day while elevated tracks might still be costlier than regular at grade level tracks from a construction viewpoint, the gap is now much closer than what it was two decades earlier. And as you rightly said taking into land acquisition and Right of Way issues into account, elevated tracks would be a better alternative. Remember technologies for both elevated sections and tunneling have improved by leaps and bounds in last 2-3 decades.

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby yensoy » 18 Oct 2020 21:12

Elevated tracks also takes care of all crossings - otherwise in the future there will be persistent asks for under/over bridges for which 50% of funds will need to be provided by railways, in addition to all operational headaches arising from construction.

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby A Nandy » 19 Oct 2020 14:47

https://themetrorailguy.com/2020/10/19/ ... ackage-c4/

L&T Wins Mumbai – Ahmedabad HSR’s Package C4

Larsen & Toubro today emerged as the lowest bidder for constructing the 237.1 km Package C4 of the 508.17 km Mumbai – Ahmedabad High Speed Rail (MAHSR Bullet Train) project, after officials from the National High Speed Rail Corporation (NHSRCL) opened financial bids submitted by 3 infrastructure companies / consortia.

Package C4 represents 46.66% of the main-line making it the longest amongst all, and runs elevated from Zaroli Village on the Maharashtra – Gujarat border to Vadodara Station through 4 stations at Vapi, Bilimora, Surat and Bharuch in Gujarat.

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby chetak » 23 Oct 2020 20:57

ITDC to take over Parliament canteen from Northern Railways


The Northern Railways will hand over the reins of the Parliament canteen to ITDC on November 15, bringing to an end its 52-year legacy of serving food to Parliamentarians.

A letter from the Lok Sabha Secretariat has asked the Northern Railways, which has been serving food in the canteen since 1968, to pack up and move on from the Parliament premises by that time.

The India Tourism Development Corporation (ITDC), the government’s tourism arm, runs the luxury five-star Ashok Group of hotels.

“The competent Authority has desired that the operations of the catering units in Parliament House Estate (Parliament House Parliament House Annexe & Parliament Library Building and paties mide and outside PHE providing services to dignitaries) be taken over by ITDC 15.11 2020,” the letter stated.

“The Northern Railway may, accordingly, hand over the electronic gadgets viz Computers Printer etc. provided by the Lok Sabha Secretariat to ITDC and furniture items, equipment gadgets etc to CPWD for being handed over by them to ITDC,” it said.

The process to find a new vendor was started last year and in July this year, Lok Sabha Speaker Om Birla met Tourism Minister Prahlad Patel and officials of ITDC to discuss the issue.

Officials at ITDC said they have been instructed to keep special focus on the quality of food which should suit both common people as well as dignitaries.

At present, the canteen serves around 5,000 people during every session. It has a total of 48 food items on its menu for lunch and evening snacks.


While matters relating to catering arrangements in the Parliament House Complex are typically decided by a joint committee on food management, in the 17th Lok Sabha, however, the food committee has not been constituted.

The final decision was taken by Speaker Birla, who has taken personal interest in ensuring that better quality food is served in the canteen and also to end subsidies.


An end to subsidies is expected to lead to annual savings of approximately ₹17 crore to Parliament.

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

Postby A Nandy » 27 Oct 2020 21:06

https://themetrorailguy.com/2020/10/27/ ... peed-rail/

India’s National High-Speed Rail Corporation Limited (NHSRCL) today invited tenders (bids) for the first ever preparatory survey work to develop the Detailed Project Report (DPR) for the upcoming 767 km Mumbai – Pune – Hyderabad High Speed Rail (MPHHSR bullet train) project in Maharashtra and Telangana.

This is the fifth of six new high speed rail corridors, planned by the Government of India in 2019, for which basic preliminary work has commenced to start construction on the project. Others already in the preparatory stage include the 865 km Delhi – Varanasi line, 886 km Delhi – Ahmedabad line, 741 km Mumbai – Nagpur line, and 465 km Delhi – Amritsar line.

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Re: Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

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