Clean India - Places, Options, Initiatives & Results

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How many of you had to defecate in open?

Poll ended at 22 Aug 2017 23:00

Never. I never had to defecate in open.
19
54%
Sometimes (like when visiting village or when guests had to come and no avl. toilets)
12
34%
Most of the times
0
No votes
Yuck! I held on tight.
2
6%
Will you ever do it? (like when visiting village or when guests come and no avl. toilets)
2
6%
 
Total votes: 35

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Re: Clean India - Places, Options, Initiatives & Results

Postby tandav » 19 Mar 2018 07:52

Went to Alibagh region for vacation. Some beach village panchayats and towns were collecting money from all visitors Rs ~40/car. The funds were ostensibly used to create facilities and keep beaches clean. The "paid" beaches were far cleaner than the "free". FWIW

Maharashtra is going to ban plastics packaging from March 18th. Most of the trash on beach is plastic bags, Styrofoam plates and plastic water bottles. It will take a decade to clean up the residual mess from public areas.

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Postby disha » 23 Mar 2018 22:51

To be read in full:

https://swarajyamag.com/ideas/open-defecation-free-life-what-this-can-really-mean-to-a-village-and-its-women

...Did she ever dream of a life without this arduous ritual, when she could sleep until she wanted and didn't have to put her life and honour at stake every morning? She didn't. Shabnam had known no other way. The ritual was a part of her existence that she couldn't stop or even tweak. Like menstruation. Which added its own set of miseries every month.

Imagine her surprise last year when she saw toilets at homes for the first time. Those magical structures with walls and door where nobody could invade her privacy, and that too within the safety of her house. That's also when she first discovered soap. She took an instant liking to it. Its use washed away the stink and made her hands "smell like flowers".

It's not like Shabnam's village Marora in Haryana's most backward district Mewat, located some 50 kilometres away from New Delhi, did not have any toilets. But seven years ago, when she shifted out of the village after marriage, most didn't. At least she never used any. Her marriage took her from one toiletless village to another. But over the last year, her visits to her now toilet-equipped maiden home has changed her. She is revolting. She has just told her husband in neigbouring Rajasthan that she wouldn't return until they too get a similar toilet constructed in their house...


And this:

It was always annoying to spot squatters in his field, he says. "I hated beginning my day with the stink they left. I had to always watch out against stepping on shit. All this is thankfully a thing of the past now. Some people still come to fields out of habit. But I can say it has almost stopped. It's reduced to, say, five per cent,” he says.


And this:

Harchanda Kumar, an 80-year-old, recalls how police would catch men squatting in the fields in the past. ...

"But now we have a sakeem," says Harchanda, referring to SBM as a scheme. He is thrilled that his sons and grandsons won't have to bear this humiliation anymore. The police don’t come to catch men in the fields now. They don’t need to.

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Re: Clean India - Places, Options, Initiatives & Results

Postby JohnTitor » 24 Mar 2018 17:48

SRoy wrote:Garbage burning as a practice has long disappeared, due to strict environmental laws.

The dust we see in cities is actually the dust from exposed soil surface.

BTW, What happens to you NRI/R2I specimen? DNA's of you guys change after few years in US?
Typical condescending NRI / R2I non sense "I suspect it’s mostly ash from burnt garbage".

Not sure where you're from, but garbage burning by people is pretty common in Karnataka - at least Bangalore, Mysore and Tumkur areas. These are places I visit often and you can see garbage burning at various places and times.

Having said that I don't think enough is burnt to be the biggest reason for pollution. Most of the dirt in India is vehicular pollution and dust from top soil erosion due to lack of greenery.

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Re: Clean India - Places, Options, Initiatives & Results

Postby Katare » 04 Apr 2018 04:31

MP is doing a lot on this front. Plastic packaging is banned, everyone’s using a nonwoven biodegradable, use a couple of times and throw bags. Bhoplal city has issued a mobile app linked to gps that you can use to take a picture of any garbage not picked up. Within 24 hours it gets picked and you get the notification to recheck it if not picked up a case gets escalated to a senior officer who have to personally supervises the case.
Indore municipal is imposing fines on any shop anywhere if they find anykind of garbage in front of their door regardless of who threw it. Garbage pick up riksha/pickup truck comes with a full blown loud speaker singing swach bharat song and Modi ji speeches .

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Re: Clean India - Places, Options, Initiatives & Results

Postby SaiK » 11 Apr 2018 05:44

Folks, my mom was totally cheated by a bunch of m*tanis to trash pick-ups. they promptly picked up, and the service was good... but only to later realize they were dumping it at nearby highway point.

What does this say about comprehensive infrastructure to swacch & recycle/bio-power gen?

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Re: Clean India - Places, Options, Initiatives & Results

Postby yensoy » 11 Apr 2018 08:26

If plastic packaging is banned, please explain to me how the following reach their consumers:
1. Gutkha
2. Kurkure
3. Lays
4. Bourbons
5. Good day
6. Frooti
7. Shampoo sachets
etc etc

Problem is that we can ban the carry bags, but the little mylar bags continue to be a menace to us. Unless those are also outlawed and replaced with biodegradable packaging, the problem is not solved.

The first step would be to require a "minimal plastic package" which would probably be a tubular or tetrahederal structure to make sure that no more packaging than the bare minimum should be used (and excess air should be eliminated).

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Re: Clean India - Places, Options, Initiatives & Results

Postby Vasu » 20 Apr 2018 11:35

Mumbai: BMC seals Rs 558 crore deal to reclaim Mulund dump yard

The BMC has come up with a Rs 558-crore five-year plan to reclaim the land on which the Mulund dumping ground exists. The plan comprises breaking down the 7,000 million-ton mountain of waste that has accumulated at the dump over the decades by using biomining of solid waste.
This will possibly be the country’s largest such exercise to clear a large dumping ground. If the project goes as per plan, the civic authority will be able to add 60 acres of land to space-starved Mumbai. The purpose of the project is also to safely capture the methane trapped in organic waste at the dump and use it to generate energy.

The BMC has finalised a contractor for the work at the Mulund dump after two failed attempts. But the reclamation process is expected to take five years. The freed-up land is expected to be used primarily for public amenities. “It will help shore up property prices in the surrounding area,” said a civic officer.

The contractor will get the rights to sell the energy and gas that will be generated from the dumping ground’s organic waste. The firm will also be allowed to sell recycled products like brick blocks, which will be made from debris and plastic waste. The bricks can be used for construction or for landfills.

Mumbai generates 7,100 tons of waste a day, which is dumped at three grounds within the city. Most of the garbage goes to Deonar and Kanjurmarg. Mulund still gets a portion of the garbage, though its closure had been decided on years ago.

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Re: Clean India - Places, Options, Initiatives & Results

Postby jaysimha » 17 May 2018 15:02

cant imagine these things are happening. not expecting to see in mainstreame media.
All DDMs are howling about yeddy swearing in ktk..
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http://pib.nic.in/PressReleaseIframePage.aspx?PRID=1532566

Ministry of Drinking Water & Sanitation
CAG and Secy MDWS empty toilet pit near Pune for Swachh Bharat

Mission to launch Twin Pit toilet ad campaign with Akshay Kumar, Bhumi Pednekar

The Comptroller and Auditor General of India, Shri ‎Rajiv Mehrishi, and Secretary, Ministry of Drinking Water and Sanitation, Shri Parameswaran Iyer emptied a toilet pit from a twin pit toilet in rural Maharashtra early this morning. Senior sanitation officers from States across the country, including Additional Chief Secretaries of Maharashtra, Uttar Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, followed suit to encourage use of twin pit toilets in rural India, and to de-stigmatize emptying of toilet pits by the household themselves.

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Re: Clean India - Places, Options, Initiatives & Results

Postby jaysimha » 17 May 2018 15:04

http://pib.nic.in/newsite/pmreleases.aspx?mincode=73

All PIB publications from Ministry of Drinking Water & Sanitation

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Re: Clean India - Places, Options, Initiatives & Results

Postby dsreedhar » 16 Jul 2018 03:39

One of my friends in US visited home in Patna after 3-4yrs. He was very impressed by the cleanliness, clean water and sanitation. He was happy he didn't fall sick on his trip and recognized n attributed to the cleanliness especially the water.

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Re: Clean India - Places, Options, Initiatives & Results

Postby disha » 31 Jul 2018 21:37

I will put impressions of my travel through India later., however this two are must read and follow links:

https://swarajyamag.com/politics/man-behind-indias-biggest-clean-up-drive-is-determined-to-get-the-job-done

And

http://sbm.gov.in/sbmreport/home.aspx

The progress on ODF for residential/rural households has been amazing.

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Re: Clean India - Places, Options, Initiatives & Results

Postby disha » 31 Jul 2018 22:27

Clean India makes for strong India and hence requires its own R & D. The budget for clean India in my opinion should be same as the agricultural ministry's budget and the same kind of MSPs should be provided for clean India initiatives.

Here is one out come of clean India.,

https://www.business-standard.com/article/economy-policy/india-s-target-of-111-mn-toilets-in-5-yrs-brings-windfall-for-companies-118073100447_1.html

Toilet-Building Frenzy
Toilet coverage has more than doubled since Modi's 'Clean India' mission began

“Sanitation is a basic need that is denied to a majority of the Indian population,” said Rajeev Kher, chief executive officer of SaraPlast Pvt Ltd., a closely-held manufacturer, supplier and cleaner of restrooms, including portable toilets for rent. Kher has also converted aged buses into mobile toilets to provide a “clean and safe toilet experience” for women in a collaboration with municipal authorities in the western city of Pune.

For individual households, Japan’s LIXIL Group has supplied tens of thousands of twin pit toilet systems that costs $10 or less apiece to facilitate the safe management of excreta in the absence of a sewage connection.


Example of research and development:

Mumbai-based Tata Group’s steel division makes Nest-In, a modular toilet that comes with an option for a bio-digester. The company has been focusing on products for end-users, including modular housing and toilets, and in March opened public toilet blocks at rest stops along a national highway.


http://www.nestin.co.in/Modular-Toilet


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