Delhi Blasts news and info

hnair · Post by **hnair** » 20 Sep 2008 04:27

From above

S A R Geelani, the Delhi University lecturer who was acquitted in the December 2001 Parliament attack, demanded a judicial probe into the shootout and said: "People have been harassed in the area for a long time. It is not something new. Whenever something happens, this area is the first target being a Muslim one."

This is one turd that floats up even after repeated flushing. What is his relevance other than escaping the gallows on a technicality?

That most could not catch sight of the bodies of the two terrorists who had been killed added to the suspicion.

Furious with the police for not showing the face of the terrorists and wrapping the bodies in a blanket, Faisal Khan, a resident of the area, asked: "Why didn't they show us the faces? If they were students or people from the area we could have recognised them."

Why is this being quoted in a news story? why should one Faisal Khan's morbid necrophilia be entertained by Delhi Police? If the DP folks dragged these bodies out of the house by one feet, there would have been an uproar about disrespect. But when they used blankets to give some unwarranted dignity to these dead beasts, that is an issue too.

Jamia University lecturer Fariyad, who lives just behind the L-18 apartment where the suspected terrorists were said to be hiding, said: "I don't know whether they were terrorists or students. But one thing is for sure. I heard only one kind of bullet sounds. It seemed the firing was only from one side. However, nothing can be confirmed as yet."

1) How does he know the difference in bullet sounds? Either he is a doofus yammering around because someone cared to check his views or that is some lecturer training he got.
2) Says "one thing is for sure" at the start and then contradicts himself by saying "nothing can be confirmed as yet" immediately.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 20 Sep 2008 05:38

RobinM wrote:Encounter was fake, say Jamia Nagar residents

Yes. And the death of the inspector was fake too.

Actually the media in India are headed by people as backward as most Indians.

I believe they have a responsibility to avoid spreading this sort of thing around without some balancing because it only reinforces the general impression that Muslims in India are an incorrigible lot who are beyond correction. They will readily take the side of a criminal or a despot as long as he is Muslim.

If this is the kind of thing that media help spread I'm not surprised that people speak like this.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 20 Sep 2008 05:46

I am just disgusted by the callousness of MMS, Shivraj PAtil, and the entire lot of these INC politicians. They seem to be winking at terrorism by suggesting that the "Bajrang Dal threat" is more dangerous than the terrorists living and operating in New Delhi.

The fellow who attacks the parliament, SAR Geelani, who was supported by Arundhati Roy and the "Indian left intellectuals" to escape his due punishment now openly works for terrorists in Indian terrorists and the halfwits who are in charge are blaming hindus!!! ( if we are to believe the implication of the statements made by this Prime Minister of ours, who doesn't want to "name any community"....must be the freaking parsis and hindus committing terrorism in order to portray islam in a bad light....after all, as we are all reminded every time an explosive goes off in Indian territory and kills many innocent civilians, "Islam is peace".

krithivas · Post by **krithivas** » 20 Sep 2008 05:51

Let us end this week with something positive - Dont know much about Radio Jamia what their antecedents are, but in this case appear to have been a stabilizing factor.

Radio Jamia plea helped maintain calm in area
20 Sep 2008, 0357 hrs IST, Manash Pratim Gohain,TNN
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Delh ... 504986.cms

Immediately after the news broke about the encounter, the radio station which was playing recorded programmes and was about to shut shop for Friday namaaz, came alive with its volunteers, taking stock of ground zero and going live on air. Its anchor Arfa, a PhD scholar in political science, announced, ‘‘From time to time these anti-social forces try to create disruption in our society. We need to be united and fight these forces. What happened here today is not related to any religion or creed. We want to tell you that this issue is between police and anti-social elements. Dear listener, you should stay indoors at this hour.

R. Krithivas

shiv wrote:
RobinM wrote:Encounter was fake, say Jamia Nagar residents
Yes. And the death of the inspector was fake too.

Actually the media in India are headed by people as backward as most Indians.

I believe they have a responsibility to avoid spreading this sort of thing around without some balancing because it only reinforces the general impression that Muslims in India are an incorrigible lot who are beyond correction. They will readily take the side of a criminal or a despot as long as he is Muslim.

If this is the kind of thing that media help spread I'm not surprised that people speak like this.

Sumeet · Post by **Sumeet** » 20 Sep 2008 05:54

Similarly 9/11 was fake too. Evil americans or jews did it to get muslims in trouble. This view is held by majority of muslims around the world. Conspiracy theory is very dear to Muslims because of that insuppressible desire to preserve H&D. They will fall for anything for the sake of Islamic H&D. Hence that article posted few days ago where some IMs were arguing since they have engaged in terrorist activities they cannot be terrorist.

Rye,

This one to compliment your post.

Ministers clueless about Delhi encounter

Friday, September 19, 2008, (New Delhi)
Since the Delhi blasts, the one person who has been under immense pressure is Home Minister Shivraj Patil. There have been demands that he be replaced for his poor handling of terror in the country.

On Friday, though Patil reached the Delhi Police headquarters as soon as news came of the encounter. But neither he nor his minister of state had much information to share.

"Someone asked me about the encounter going on. The officials here will brief you about it after getting full information," said the Home Minister.

Sriprakash Jaiswal, MoS, Home Ministery, on the other hand told journalists that "I don't have any official information. Whatever I know is from TV channels."

enqyoob · Post by **enqyoob** » 20 Sep 2008 06:11

Look, given that the terrorists are Ministers' brats, would YOU brief the Ministers on a live basis when an operation is going on?

Sumeet · Post by **Sumeet** » 20 Sep 2008 09:08

cube I totally agree. Sharma with experience of killing 35 terrorists and capturing more than 85 must know better about treating.

So sorry that in the same year Delhi has lost Rajbir and Sharma.

Anyways coming to breaking news:

Arrested terrorist confesses to role in blasts

New Delhi: Following an intense round of questioning, a terrorist, who was arrested from Jamia Nagar area of New Delhi, on Saturday reportedly confessed to his role in the recent blasts in Ahmedabad, Jaipur and Delhi.

Saif was arrested on Friday following a fierce exchange of fire between a Special Cell of the Delhi Police and suspected Indian Mujahideen terrorists holed up inside inside House No L-18, Batla House in Jamia Nagar.

Police claim Bashir, who was shot dead during the encounter, was the mastermind of all the blasts, sources said.

They added that the role of Tauqeer — dubbed the techie brain behind the recent blasts and the 'Indian Osama' — is not as significant as that of Bashir.

Bashir is being seen as the mastermind, running the terror module and is an original SIMI member. He is believed to have launched Indian Mujahideen — an amorphous radical version of SIMI.

Police sources said the arrest of the suspect could prove critical in zeroing in on other members of the module responsible for the five bomb blasts in Delhi on September 13.

This b@stard is son of SAMAJWADI PARTY MP.

sum · Post by **sum** » 20 Sep 2008 09:49

I believe they have a responsibility to avoid spreading this sort of thing around without some balancing because it only reinforces the general impression that Muslims in India are an incorrigible lot who are beyond correction. They will readily take the side of a criminal or a despot as long as he is Muslim.

I for one have reinforced the belief in concrete after seeing tons of videos of the behaviour of the Jamia nagar residents on TV...

Guess, the govt will get even tougher against terror and...*drumroll* ban the Bajrang Dal and RSS!!!

Already, now that the Godhra riots shrieking is losing its charm and all new turds are emerging from unconnected UP(Azamgarh), the new urban legend of Bajrang Dal bomb makers killed in Kanpur and Maharashtra is taking shape which will serve the delusional muslims and "secularists" well for the next 4-5 years after every bomb blast(there will be plenty) till a new issue comes up.

G Subramaniam · Post by **G Subramaniam** » 20 Sep 2008 09:55

Shiv wrote
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because it only reinforces the general impression that Muslims in India are an incorrigible lot who are beyond correction. They will readily take the side of a criminal or a despot as long as he is Muslim.
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Per Maulana Mohammed Ali of the Khilafat movement
'The meanest , most drunk, most criminal mussulman is superior to Gandhi'

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 20 Sep 2008 10:06

Rye wrote:I am just disgusted by the callousness of MMS, Shivraj PAtil, and the entire lot of these INC politicians. They seem to be winking at terrorism by suggesting that the "Bajrang Dal threat" is more dangerous than the terrorists living and operating in New Delhi.

The fellow who attacks the parliament, SAR Geelani, who was supported by Arundhati Roy and the "Indian left intellectuals" to escape his due punishment now openly works for terrorists in Indian terrorists and the halfwits who are in charge are blaming hindus!!! ( if we are to believe the implication of the statements made by this Prime Minister of ours, who doesn't want to "name any community"....must be the freaking parsis and hindus committing terrorism in order to portray islam in a bad light....after all, as we are all reminded every time an explosive goes off in Indian territory and kills many innocent civilians, "Islam is peace".

Have you been on a coffee break or what?

. Haven't seen you in a while.

But I expressed the same sentiments. Go to

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... &start=840

and scroll down to CRamS.

Avinash R · Post by **Avinash R** » 20 Sep 2008 11:19

Zeeshan, one of the terrorist who escaped is arrested.
SIMI chief financier Mohammad Ali is arrested in MP, has been brought to bhopal. joint team of mp police and IB is interrorgating him.
Saif the terrorist caught alive yesterday has confessed to his crime in the delhi blasts.
Saif says there were 10 others with him who planted the bombs.
More arrests expected today.

sum · Post by **sum** » 20 Sep 2008 11:41

Saif the terrorist caught alive yesterday has confessed to his crime in the delhi blasts.
Saif says there were 10 others with him who planted the bombs.

Errr...how do these pigs sing so quickly?

I had heard/read in reports that these brainwashed educated morons are the toughest nuts to crack and mock the interrogators even when under severe torture?

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 20 Sep 2008 12:04

^^^
death of his compatriots in front of his eyes must have shaken him. this fellow has probably spent his life as a spoilt brat with a MP father.

was just watching the news, one other escaped terrorist have been arrested.

LKA was in tears while speaking about sharma. times now followed that with patil and I duly changed the channel.

AjayKK · Post by **AjayKK** » 20 Sep 2008 12:42

This b@stard is son of SAMAJWADI PARTY MP.

The SAMAJWADI PARTY babas have a clean record ( of supporting anti-nationals)

Mulayan singh- From announcing that 2000 cr should be given as 'donations' to Pakistan (1998) to other muslim-apologies, he is in the front

Janeshwar mishra- Overt simi apologist

Abu Asim Azmi- Involved in shoe scam etc , involved in Mumbai 1993 serial blasts, in the 90s was supposed to be covert isi supporter, police dossier of him contains videos with dawood. Son Farhan , 'powder supply business' to other neta-baba log

Majeed Memon - Defended accused of the Mumbai 1993 serial blasts, accused in Ghatkopar blast trial, got an acquittal, fought for missing Ghatkopar blast accused Khwaja Yunus, defended accused in Gulshan Kumar case, got an acquittal, defended Abu Asim Azmi in Mumbai 1993 serial blasts and got hid name out of the accused list.

Azamgarh monkeys - using osama posters in poll campaign to cartoon protests

Ateeq ahmad - murder, kidnapping and extortion.

Afzal ansari -same as above ....

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Meanwhile the anti-goverment protest by certain citizens of society protesting against the encounter -as reported by the media

kshirin · Post by **kshirin** » 20 Sep 2008 12:45

[quote="gandharva"][quote]This is a common myth held by Muslims. But the reality is that the Hindus had captured India from the Mughals after the death of Aurangzeb. [/quote]

THE MYTH OF MUSLIM EMPIRE IN INDIA

Reviewed as a whole, the period between the last decade of the 12th century and the first quarter of the 18th - the period which is supposed to be the period of Muslim empire in India - is nothing more than a period of long-drawn-out war between Hindu freedom fighters and the Muslim invaders. The Hindus lost many battles, and retreated again and again. But they recovered every time, and resumed the struggle so that eventually the enemy was worn out, defeated, and dispersed in the final round which started with the rise of Shivaji.

As we read the history of medieval India we find that only a few Hindu princes made an abject surrender before the proved superiority of Muslim arms. Muslim historians cite innumerable instances of how Hindus burnt or killed their womenfolk, and then died fighting to the last man. There were many instances of Muslims being defeated decisively by Hindu heroism. Many of the so-called Muslim conquests were mere raids which succeeded initially but the impact of which did not last for long. The account which Assam, Rajasthan, Bundelkhand, Orissa, Telingana, Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, Maharashtra, and the Punjab gave of themselves in successive waves of resistance and recovery, has not many parallels in human history.

It is, therefore, a travesty of truth to say that Islam enjoyed an empire in India for six centuries. What happened really was that Islam struggled for six centuries to conquer India for good, but failed in the final round in the face of stiff and continued Hindu resistance. Hali was not at all wrong when he mourned that the invincible armada of Hijaz which had swept over so many seas and rivers met its watery grave in the Ganges. Iqbal also wrote his Shikwah in sorrowful remembrance of the same failure. In fact, there is no dearth of Muslim poets and politicians who weep over the defeat of Islam in India in the past, and who look forward to a reconquest of India in the future. Hindus have survived as a majority in their motherland not because Islam spared any effort to conquer and convert them but because Islamic brutality met more than its equal in Hindu tenacity for freedom.

Nor is it anywhere near the truth to say that the British empire in India replaced an earlier Muslim empire. The effective political power in India had already passed into the hands of the Marathas, the Jats, and the Sikhs when the British started playing their imperialist game. The Muslim principalities in Bengal, Avadh, South India, Sindh, and the Punjab were no match for the Hindu might that had resurged. The Mughal emperor at Delhi by that time presented a pitiful picture of utter helplessness. The custodians of Islam in India were repeatedly inviting Ahmad Shah Abdali from across the border to come and rescue Islam from the abyss into which it had fallen.
http://voiceofdharma.org/books/siii/ch8.htm[/quote]

Thanks. Am so tired of Muslim breastbeating about their superiority, even the "liberal" guy in Khuda Ke Liye boasts to his American girlfriend that Pakistan ruled India for a 1000 years.

kshirin · Post by **kshirin** » 20 Sep 2008 12:49

[quote="AjayKK"][quote]This b@stard is son of SAMAJWADI PARTY MP.[/quote]

The SAMAJWADI PARTY babas have a clean record ( of supporting anti-nationals)

Mulayan singh- From announcing that 2000 cr should be given as 'donations' to Pakistan (1998) to other muslim-apologies, he is in the front

Janeshwar mishra- Overt simi apologist

Abu Asim Azmi- Involved in shoe scam etc , involved in Mumbai 1993 serial blasts, in the 90s was supposed to be covert isi supporter, police dossier of him contains videos with dawood. Son Farhan , 'powder supply business' to other neta-baba log

Majeed Memon - Defended accused of the Mumbai 1993 serial blasts, accused in Ghatkopar blast trial, got an acquittal, fought for missing Ghatkopar blast accused Khwaja Yunus, defended accused in Gulshan Kumar case, got an acquittal, defended Abu Asim Azmi in Mumbai 1993 serial blasts and got hid name out of the accused list.

Azamgarh monkeys - using osama posters in poll campaign to cartoon protests

Ateeq ahmad - murder, kidnapping and extortion.

Afzal ansari -same as above ....

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Meanwhile the anti-goverment protest by certain citizens of society protesting against the encounter -as reported by the media

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Add to that that freak who defected at the last minute from SP on the N-deal.

sum · Post by **sum** » 20 Sep 2008 13:07

Link

Killed Indian Mujahideen men provided terror backbone

Praveen Swami

Mohammad Bashir helped teach Gujarat terrorists bomb-making techniques

The three played an important role in organising the serial bombings in New Delhi

They had met Qureshi at least twice in August to discuss future attacks

NEW DELHI: Investigators believe that the three terrorists shot in New Delhi’s Jamia Nagar on Friday were key actors in an Uttar Pradesh-based network which constituted the logistical backbone of the Indian Mujahideen’s nationwide operations.

Police have identified the Indian Mujahideen operatives killed in the shootout as Azamgarh residents Mohammad Bashir and Mohammad Fakruddin. A third man who was injured has been identified as Saif Ahmad, also a resident of Azamgarh.

Police believe the three men, who were located after an Intelligence Bureau-led operation targeting Indian Mujahideen communications, played an important role in organising last weekend’s serial bombings in New Delhi.

Last week, The Hindu had broken news that the three Azamgarh men — whose names were withheld by this newspaper to avoid compromising the investigation — were being sought in connection with the New Delhi bombings.

Investigators had been searching for Bashir ever since the arrest of Sarai Mir-based cleric Abul Bashar Qasmi who, the Gujarat police alleges, had operational command of the terror cell which carried out July’s bombings in Ahmedabad.

According to Gujarat police investigators, Bashir, under the supervision of top Indian Mujahideen commander Mohammad Subhan Qureshi, taught local Indian Mujahideen cadre how to fabricate the improvised explosive devices used in Ahmedabad. Much of the training, police sources say, appears to have been carried out with the help of detailed circuit diagrams which were found in one of the apartments used by the terror cell.

Bashir, the Gujarat police say, also received the stolen vehicles which were used as car-bombs in Ahmedabad — vehicles that are thought to have been acquired by Qureshi who, despite the coordinated efforts of police in five States, is yet to be located.

Late on the afternoon on June 26, Bashir is believed to left Ahmedabad on a New Delhi-bound train. Qureshi — a highly-trained computer specialist who is suspected to have authored e-mail manifestos issued by the Indian Mujahideen after its attacks in Jaipur, Gujarat and New Delhi — is thought to have left Ahmedabad some two hours later.

Based on the phone records of the alleged Indian Mujahideen cadre held in Gujarat, the Intelligence Bureau concluded that Bashir was likely hidden out in safehouses provided by Students Islamic Movement of India sympathisers in the Jamia Nagar and Okhla areas of south-east Delhi. Efforts to locate the safehouses, Delhi Police sources said, were initiated last weekend.

However, these could be located only when Qasmi was brought to New Delhi and driven around the Jamia Nagar area on Thursday night.

Qasmi had told Gujarat police investigators that the three Azamgarh men had met with Qureshi at least twice in August to discuss future attacks. New Delhi was chosen as a target during these meetings.

But evidence on the critical role of Uttar Pradesh-based networks in the Indian Mujahideen’s operations had in fact been available ever since early this year, when the names of several of its operatives emerged in the course of investigations into the December 2007, synchronised bombing of trial court buildings at Lucknow, Faizabad and Varanasi.

Police found that Jaunpur based Mohammad Khalid Mujahid and Tariq Kazmi, using explosives provided by Jammu and Kashmir Harkat ul-Jihad-e-Islami commander Bashir Mir, had coordinated the trial court bombings. However, protests broke out after the arrests of the two men, leading the Uttar Pradesh government to order the State police to go slow on operations directed at SIMI.

Among those who thus escaped arrest was Qasmi. Indeed, Qasmi’s SIMI links had been known to the Uttar Pradesh police since 2006, when he figured in the interrogation of Mohtasin Billa, an engineering student alleged to have facilitated that year’s serial bombings in Hyderabad. However, Qasmi was only finally held after the Gujarat police obtained a warrant for his arrest early this month. Police officials believe earlier action could have disrupted the networks which carried out the Ahmedabad attacks.

Friday’s shootings, interestingly, again sparked off violence in Azamgarh, where local Samajwadi Party activists claimed the men shot in New Delhi were innocent. Ahmad’s father, Sadab Ahmad, is vice-president of the local unit of the Samajwadi Party. Qasmi’s arrest — which took place after the Gujarat police obtained a judicial warrant, forcing the hand of their Uttar Pradesh counterparts — had had provoked protests in and around Sarai Mir, also spearheaded by local politicians of the Samajwadi Party

It seems to be a IB led operation and not a independent DP special branch thing as announced in the press conference by the commissioner yesterday..

IMO, Azamgarh is in need of a major cleanup...Does the writ of GoI run in Azamgarh or is it a "liberated" area?

pradeepe · Post by **pradeepe** » 20 Sep 2008 14:03

AjayKK wrote:
This b@stard is son of SAMAJWADI PARTY MP.
Meanwhile the anti-goverment protest by certain citizens of society protesting against the encounter -as reported by the media

^^ with scum like the above, no wonder the inspector was ambushed.

In any other country, when a law enforcement officer goes down fighting scum - the "officer down" shout automatically brings in the heavy artillery and pulverises the sh*ts beyond recognition. Only in India would the spectacle play out in reverse.

May the brave son of India rest in peace.

Manu · Post by **Manu** » 20 Sep 2008 14:04

Sumeet wrote:cube I totally agree. Sharma with experience of killing 35 terrorists and capturing more than 85 must know better about treating.

So sorry that in the same year Delhi has lost Rajbir and Sharma.

Anyways coming to breaking news:

Arrested terrorist confesses to role in blasts

New Delhi: Following an intense round of questioning, a terrorist, who was arrested from Jamia Nagar area of New Delhi, on Saturday reportedly confessed to his role in the recent blasts in Ahmedabad, Jaipur and Delhi.

Saif was arrested on Friday following a fierce exchange of fire between a Special Cell of the Delhi Police and suspected Indian Mujahideen terrorists holed up inside inside House No L-18, Batla House in Jamia Nagar.

Police claim Bashir, who was shot dead during the encounter, was the mastermind of all the blasts, sources said.

They added that the role of Tauqeer — dubbed the techie brain behind the recent blasts and the 'Indian Osama' — is not as significant as that of Bashir.

Bashir is being seen as the mastermind, running the terror module and is an original SIMI member. He is believed to have launched Indian Mujahideen — an amorphous radical version of SIMI.

Police sources said the arrest of the suspect could prove critical in zeroing in on other members of the module responsible for the five bomb blasts in Delhi on September 13.

This b@stard is son of SAMAJWADI PARTY MP.

Why is this surprising to you? See my post Click here, where I KNEW SP would be involved.

All the contract killers and general "shooters" in Mumbai come from the Islamic Republic of Azamgarh, so no surprise there either. It requires a MAJOR cleanup. Some people may lose sleep, though.

ASPuar · Post by **ASPuar** » 20 Sep 2008 15:31

I wonder how it came to be that he wasnt wearing a BPJ, unlike some of the other cops who were involved. Two shots in the abdomen. I think it almost certainly meant the diff between life and death. Im appalled to learn that despite the death of a policeman, there are still sections who believe this thing was staged and is just a ploy of the police!

enqyoob · Post by **enqyoob** » 20 Sep 2008 17:16

Because he was off duty for the weekend, and was sitting at the bedside of his son who was in hospital with dengue fever when he got the call.

I agree - those U-tube videos remove whatever doubt remained, thanks! It has already come in very handy

. How and where was the escapee caught?

Also is the Poppa terrorist just an MP or a UP STATE CABINET MINISTER? I thought he promised to shoot his offspring himself if found guilty. They should take him up on that, then hang him for murder after 10 years RI for Breeding Terrorists. Win-win.

Let me try refining the "GUESS" based on that. So in this neighborhood there were probably 30 houses? With the 15 occupants each, that's 450. The hate-filled terrorist mob shown there is at least 180 strong, and that does not ignore the women terrorists and the toddlers. 2 terrorists were killed, one arrested, 2 escaped.

This means that EVERY HOUSE THERE IS A TERRORIST HOUSE. Where's the Air Force when we need them?

Rupesh · Post by **Rupesh** » 20 Sep 2008 17:33

NEW DELHI: Family and friends on Saturday bid a tearful adieu to slain Delhi Police Special Cell officer M C Sharma, who died battling terrorists during an encounter. ( Watch )

As the body of the 41-year-old was brought to his residence in South West Delhi's Dwarka area in a flower-decked vehicle, family members, neighbours and well wishers started chanting slogans of "Bharat Mata Ki Jai (Long live Mother India)" and "M C Sharma Amar Rahe (Long live M C Sharma).

A Delhi Police contingent paid a gun salute to the departed officer, a winner of seven gallantry medals.

Sharma is survived by his wife, a son and a daughter. His son, who had been admitted to a hospital in Kirti Nagar with Dengue, was also brought home to bid farewell to his father.

The body of the slain Inspector was brought from AIIMS, where a postmortem had been conducted, to Sharma's residence at Om Satyam Apartments, Sector 4 in Dwarka.

A large number of inconsolable relatives, neighbours and well wishers trailed the vehicle as the body was taken to the Nigamboth Ghat for cremation.

Sharma suffered several bullet injuries during the encounter with militants in the capital's Jamia Nagar area on Friday in which he led the Delhi police team. Two terrorists were killed and one arrested. ( Watch )

He later succumbed to his injuries at the Holy Family hospital.

The officer who joined the Delhi Police as a Sub-Inspector in 1989 was instrumental in the killing of 35 terrorists and the arrest of another 80 militants, police sources claimed, adding he had killed 40 inter-state gangsters and arrested another 129.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Brav ... 506878.cms

K Mehta · Post by **K Mehta** » 20 Sep 2008 17:41

The point about abuse of religious places is not new. My father told me of an incident in Radhanpur, which happened in the after math of shooting down Balwantrai Mehta's aircraft in the 1965 war. His body was being transported back to his native place by road, during which intercepts were made of enemy transmissions by radio. They were not only relaying the details of the travel of the corpse but also of the troops that were moving along the road towards the border and the kind of weapons they had. The incharge of the police station at radhanpur was a sindhi. Most sindhis hate pakis from their guts and this one was no execption. The transmissions were traced to the masjid of the town, which initially didnt allow the man inside. He then forcibly entered the mosque and then beat up the maulvi who squealed the names of the radio operators and that the radio was there in the well of the mosque. The radio was taken away and the people operating them were beaten black and blue in front of the whole town, but were allowed to go free coz they were big fish. He also told that there were attempts to sabotage the railway lines near radhanpur to stop the transport of troops by rail. The man did a good job of guarding the railways and shot a couple of sabouteurs.
I wonder if they make such a hulla about holy place attack, one wonders what they do when such people are arrested and beaten up balck and blue.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 20 Sep 2008 17:59

The radio was taken away and the people operating them were beaten black and blue in front of the whole town,

A rather light punishment for treason in time of war. Summary execution would have been more appropriate and would have left a lasting lesson for the town.

K Mehta · Post by **K Mehta** » 20 Sep 2008 18:07

I think what the inspector did was right at the time and the punishment was to be a model to others and marked these guys out. I think death is an easy way out for such people.
Radhanpur was a Nawabi state like others, so such sympathizers were there then and maybe around now too, not in the same place but all around India.
The guys were beaten brutually enough not to be able to walk even after couple of months. They owned major businesses like a transport chain and were relatives to some royal household.
The question is if that was done then, you can imagine what can be done now.
Cases in Kashmir of use of shrines and mosques by terrorists are there in no small number.
So what is this hue and cry about attack on holy place. They are more of barracks or training grounds for these terrorists.

enqyoob · Post by **enqyoob** » 20 Sep 2008 18:10

In such cases, where it is proved that the "place of worship" is being used for terrorism by its custodians, it should be locked up and sealed until the trial and appeals are over. Let's see - 1965? The Preliminary Hearing should be coming up any day now. But I can't see Hizzoners agreeing that the law of the land should take precedence over the "religious sentiments" of the terrorists.

I agree - if they were transmitting sensitive info during wartime, they should have been beaten black and blue until they squealed all that they knew, THEN hanged in front of the whole town. This is the whole problem in India - no seriousness about law enforcement, though the aftermath of terrorism is serious all right for the victims and their loved ones.

Added later: I think the mob came out and yelled PRECISELY to STOP the police from going into the recesses of the mosque, because they would otherwise have found the weapons stash and other evidence.

A Arun · Post by **A Arun** » 20 Sep 2008 19:16

Sumeet wrote: This b@stard is son of SAMAJWADI PARTY MP.

Saif's Abbu is not an MP. He's the vice-president of the Samajwadi Party’s Azamgarh district unit.

enqyoob · Post by **enqyoob** » 20 Sep 2008 19:25

Small terminological inexactitude. If he IS the son of this worthy terrorist-breeder, then he cannot be a bast@rd.

Perhaps you should rephrase that to "The ***** is son of the wife of the *********".

Yesterday's reports said he is a UP MINISTER, I think (too lazy to go back and check). This is an important distinction. Is he? IOW, is he just a local goon or a State-wide goon with access to cabinet-level stuff?

vsudhir · Post by **vsudhir** » 20 Sep 2008 19:31

More likely, the terrorist's abbu is an ex-mantri in the UP govrmand. Its the BSP ruling UP currently with single-party majority and they have NO truck with the SP.

Had raised hopes in moi a while back, maya will wipe out the viper nests SP was nurturing in UP for poll and extra-poll purposes. Dunno how that project fareth, though.

Tamang · Post by **Tamang** » 20 Sep 2008 19:35

Lashkar helped SIMI, IM in Delhi blasts: Police

NEW DELHI: Delhi Joint Commissioner of Police (Special Police) Karnal Singh said Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Taiba is providing full support to banned SIMI and Indian Mujahideen. (Watch )

Delhi Police have cracked the blasts in UP courts. Arrested Saif was involved in planning and execution of the blast in Varanasi, said Karnal Singh.

Karnal Singh also added that explosives for Delhi blasts came from Karnataka.

Atif was the man behind the serial blasts in Delhi. His laptop contained lot of material on Lashker-e-Taiba, said the Joint Commissioner of Police (Special Police).

Earlier, Mohd Saif and Zeeshan, suspected aides of militants involved in the serial blasts here, were on Saturday remanded to 14 days' police custody by a Delhi court. ( Watch )

"Considering the abhorrent and fiendish acts that rattled Delhi last Saturday and investigating agency was also bereaved of an officer and to unearth the conspiracy, both the accused are remanded to 14-day police custody," Additional Chief Metropolitan Magistrate (ACMM) Kanwaljit Arora said.

While seeking police custody of Saif and Zeeshan, the Special Cell of Delhi Police said their further custodial interrogation was necessary as they had revealed "there are 10 other persons involved in the blasts and are absconding".

Assistant Commissioner of Police ACP Sanjeeev Yadav, who is the investigating officer in the case, told the court that preliminary investigations have revealed that "they (Saif and Zeeshan) are (suspected) to be involved in the Gaffar Market blast last Saturday".

Both Saif, in early 20s and Zeeshan (25), were muffled when produced before the ACMM.

Claiming a major breakthrough in last week's serial blasts in the national capital, Delhi Police on Saturday said two of those arrested after Friday's encounter have confessed to their involvement in the terror act having planted explosives in two places. ( Watch )

Acting on a tip off, police on Friday night arrested a suspected militant Zeeshan from the premises of a news channel where he had gone to give an interview. With his arrest, police had caught two militants allegedly involved in the blasts. ( Watch )

Investigators are on the look out for at least ten people who planted bombs following the "disclosure" by Mohd Saif, who was arrested after a fierce encounter in south Delhi in which two other suspected militants were killed, a senior police official said.

The official claimed that Saif had confessed to his role in the Delhi serial blasts which claimed over 20 lives and that he planted a bomb near Regal Cinema in Connaught Place. The bomb was defused after it was spotted by a ragpicker who alerted police.

The official claimed that a group of two men each went to plant the bombs in the city.

Saif also told investigators that Atiq, who was among the two who was killed in the daring encounter in Jamia Nagar on Friday, was the mastermind of the blasts and that he was a prominent member of the Indian Mujahideen, the official said. ( Watch )

Atiq himself planted the bomb in Greater Kailash market in south Delhi, Saif is believed to have told sleuths of Delhi Police's Special Cell who are interrogating him.

The ten men, for whom the police are conducting searches in various places including Jamia Nagar in south Delhi, are believed to have been brought to Delhi by Atiq on July 27.

Atiq, who is believed to have links with Tauqeer, the mastermind behind the serial blasts in various parts of the country in the recent past, had travelled to Ahmedabad on July 24, two days before the serial blasts in that city, Delhi Police Commissioner Y S Dadwal said.

He allegedly went to Gujarat with 10 people on July 24 and returned on July 27 along with 12 others including two people who believed to have arranged for the cars found laden with explosives in Surat.

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Good job, but it also shows that similar efforts to bust terror modules should have been made earlier. But still better late then never. Several terrorists and their supporters have been arrested across the country.

Baljeet · Post by **Baljeet** » 20 Sep 2008 19:38

Rye wrote:I am just disgusted by the callousness of MMS, Shivraj PAtil, and the entire lot of these INC politicians. They seem to be winking at terrorism by suggesting that the "Bajrang Dal threat" is more dangerous than the terrorists living and operating in New Delhi.

The fellow who attacks the parliament, SAR Geelani, who was supported by Arundhati Roy and the "Indian left intellectuals" to escape his due punishment now openly works for terrorists in Indian terrorists and the halfwits who are in charge are blaming hindus!!! ( if we are to believe the implication of the statements made by this Prime Minister of ours, who doesn't want to "name any community"....must be the freaking parsis and hindus committing terrorism in order to portray islam in a bad light....after all, as we are all reminded every time an explosive goes off in Indian territory and kills many innocent civilians, "Islam is peace".

Well Said Rye,
I can't say much on MMS, Patil or Congress et al. I have already rec'd two warnings from Moderators and admins about these losers. I will say this though, if one nationalist leader comes to power on the plank of Natonal Security, Jobs, Accountability he will win, I hope he becomes a dictator after that, puts all current politicians of this nation to body bags. Don't think anyone will lose a sleep over losing corrupt netas.

Nothing rattles Delhi Police more than losing their own local boy. Karnal Singh, Sanjeev Yadav and their team of interrogators will extract truth out of their dead bodies. They will keep them alive with every means possible till they are so broke they will squeak.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 20 Sep 2008 19:41

Somini Sengupta brays like the donkey she is - no mention of M C Sharma laying his life down,
but heavy on the innuendo and terrorist pampering.

the police have arrested one of the two escapees from another place in the city today morning.
the arrested have been remanded to 14 days of police custody, I think after seeing their
colleague shot in cold blood , the rest of the team would not have taken more than 1.4 hours
to 'break' these chaps and make them squeal like the pigs that they are.

hopefully more pigs will cornered in their holes and halal'ed soon.

NYT:-

Indian Police Kill 2 Suspects in Bombings of New Delhi

By SOMINI SENGUPTA
Published: September 19, 2008

NEW DELHI — Less than a week after five bombs tore through busy streets and markets in the Indian capital, the city police said they had killed the mastermind of the serial blasts in a gun battle in an apartment in a crowded neighborhood.

Police officers near the site of a gunfight with bombing suspects in New Delhi. The police said that they killed two and arrested one and that two others escaped.

Police identified the man only as Atif, also known as Basheer, who they said belonged to Indian Mujahedeen, a group that claimed responsibility for the blasts that took place Sept. 13. The police said they killed one of his accomplices and arrested a second, while two others escaped.

The city’s police chief, Y. S. Dadwal, told reporters on Friday evening that the suspects fired first during a raid on what they suspected was a militant safe house in a Muslim-majority neighborhood, Jamia Nagar. The shootings, known in the peculiar parlance of Indian law enforcement as “encounter killings,” come as pressure mounts on Indian officials to respond to a spate of terrorist attacks around the country.

Encounter killings are commonly used to eliminate criminal and terrorism suspects, human rights advocates say. They say that these killings have been a favorite tactic of Indian officials in insurgency-hit states like Kashmir.

Muslim groups have cautioned police against conducting random sweeps of Muslim neighborhoods. The raid on Friday led the All India Minority Forum to call for a judicial inquiry into the killings.

Previous terrorist attacks have also been followed by raids and sometimes killings of suspects. But they have done nothing to stanch future attacks.

The police said Friday that they seized a computer and an AK-47 rifle from the apartment.

The New Delhi bombings, which killed at least 21 people, came on the heels of a series of terrorist attacks in recent months for which the Indian Mujahedeen, a previously unknown outfit, claimed responsibility.

Last July, serial bombings in the western city of Ahmedabad killed more than 50 people, a day after a bomb in Bangalore killed one. In May, synchronized bombs in Jaipur, west of here, killed more than 60.

Baljeet · Post by **Baljeet** » 20 Sep 2008 19:59

Singha wrote:Somini Sengupta brays like the donkey she is - no mention of M C Sharma laying his life down,
but heavy on the innuendo and terrorist pampering.

the police have arrested one of the two escapees from another place in the city today morning.
the arrested have been remanded to 14 days of police custody, I think after seeing their
colleague shot in cold blood , the rest of the team would not have taken more than 1.4 hours
to 'break' these chaps and make them squeal like the pigs that they are.

hopefully more pigs will cornered in their holes and halal'ed soon.

NYT:-

Indian Police Kill 2 Suspects in Bombings of New Delhi

By SOMINI SENGUPTA
Published: September 19, 2008

NEW DELHI — Less than a week after five bombs tore through busy streets and markets in the Indian capital, the city police said they had killed the mastermind of the serial blasts in a gun battle in an apartment in a crowded neighborhood.

Police officers near the site of a gunfight with bombing suspects in New Delhi. The police said that they killed two and arrested one and that two others escaped.

Police identified the man only as Atif, also known as Basheer, who they said belonged to Indian Mujahedeen, a group that claimed responsibility for the blasts that took place Sept. 13. The police said they killed one of his accomplices and arrested a second, while two others escaped.

The city’s police chief, Y. S. Dadwal, told reporters on Friday evening that the suspects fired first during a raid on what they suspected was a militant safe house in a Muslim-majority neighborhood, Jamia Nagar. The shootings, known in the peculiar parlance of Indian law enforcement as “encounter killings,” come as pressure mounts on Indian officials to respond to a spate of terrorist attacks around the country.

Encounter killings are commonly used to eliminate criminal and terrorism suspects, human rights advocates say. They say that these killings have been a favorite tactic of Indian officials in insurgency-hit states like Kashmir.

Muslim groups have cautioned police against conducting random sweeps of Muslim neighborhoods. The raid on Friday led the All India Minority Forum to call for a judicial inquiry into the killings.

Previous terrorist attacks have also been followed by raids and sometimes killings of suspects. But they have done nothing to stanch future attacks.

The police said Friday that they seized a computer and an AK-47 rifle from the apartment.

The New Delhi bombings, which killed at least 21 people, came on the heels of a series of terrorist attacks in recent months for which the Indian Mujahedeen, a previously unknown outfit, claimed responsibility.

Last July, serial bombings in the western city of Ahmedabad killed more than 50 people, a day after a bomb in Bangalore killed one. In May, synchronized bombs in Jaipur, west of here, killed more than 60.

Singhaji
You are talking about Somni Sengupta. She still has her memories of commie days of calcutta. Is it any surprise all her writings have commie tone, India bad, Sanatan Dharm bad, Muslims good. Maybe she has a secret desire to be a muslim, she is the 5th column just like her cousins of West Bengal. Her hideous Begali Accent, she is another one of those arrogant-psuedo intellectuals of India who are brown outside and white inside. These are the kind of people who were happy in slavery, and mentally they are still slaves. Maybe she has been eating too much Jal and drinking too much bhaat. She has a brain freeze who can't think. She always tries to blame this nation for every problem pakis, beedis are having...
Dumb Somni Sengupta

Baljeet · Post by **Baljeet** » 20 Sep 2008 20:15

G Subramaniam wrote:dailypioneer

Op BAD was for BADLA

Karn Pratap Singh | New Delhi

After Bangalore, Ahmedabad & Delhi, Lucknow and Amritsar could be on hit list

It was not 'BAD', but 'BADLA' -- the name of the virulent and macabre operation undertaken by the Students' Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) activists across India. Apart from only Bangalore, Ahmedabad and Delhi - as suspected earlier -- the full acronym also includes Lucknow and Amritsar.

Well-placed sources in security agencies have told The Pioneer that Ahmedabad blasts accused Abu Basher, who is currently in police custody, revealed to the sleuths that the entire operation was code-named BADLA.

Delhi Police's intelligence sources have got inputs that the next targets of the Indian Mujahideen bombers could be Lucknow or Ludhiana and then Amritsar.
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If they hit Ludhiana or Amritsar, TSP needs to keep its doors open for 150,000 muslims of Malerkotla ( in Indian Punjab )
It is one thing to bomb gandhian kafir hindus
Another thing to bomb the sikhs

G Subramaniam
Don't forget Mewat in Haryana either, Ajmer in Rajasthan. Clock is ticking against muslims. Just a matter of time, one of these piglets will bomb Amritsar and all hell will break loose. Gandhi Khandan should not forget their history.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 20 Sep 2008 20:28

hnair wrote:
That most could not catch sight of the bodies of the two terrorists who had been killed added to the suspicion.

Furious with the police for not showing the face of the terrorists and wrapping the bodies in a blanket, Faisal Khan, a resident of the area, asked: "Why didn't they show us the faces? If they were students or people from the area we could have recognised them."

Jamia University lecturer Fariyad, who lives just behind the L-18 apartment where the suspected terrorists were said to be hiding, said: "I don't know whether they were terrorists or students. But one thing is for sure. I heard only one kind of bullet sounds. It seemed the firing was only from one side. However, nothing can be confirmed as yet."

These two Abduls need to be investigated for terrorist linke themselves.

let me explain

1) Abdul no 1 above wanted to see the faces of the dead terorists. Obvisously he wanted to knwo if it was Mirwaiz who was dead or Ateeq. If Mirwaiz was dead, he would warn Ateeq's folks to look out and protect him

Abdlu no 2 is totally unlike 99.9 % f people in indian. He knows that some guns sound different and he can tell by the sound of guns whether there is on gun or more. What more proof do you need that this guy has had arms training? Innocent or guilty needs to b looked at

Zin · Post by **Zin** » 20 Sep 2008 20:36

Baljeet wrote:
Singha wrote:Somini Sengupta brays like the donkey she is - no mention of M C Sharma laying his life down,
but heavy on the innuendo and terrorist pampering.

the police have arrested one of the two escapees from another place in the city today morning.
the arrested have been remanded to 14 days of police custody, I think after seeing their
colleague shot in cold blood , the rest of the team would not have taken more than 1.4 hours
to 'break' these chaps and make them squeal like the pigs that they are.

hopefully more pigs will cornered in their holes and halal'ed soon.
Singhaji
You are talking about Somni Sengupta. She still has her memories of commie days of calcutta. Is it any surprise all her writings have commie tone, India bad, Sanatan Dharm bad, Muslims good. Maybe she has a secret desire to be a muslim, she is the 5th column just like her cousins of West Bengal. Her hideous Begali Accent, she is another one of those arrogant-psuedo intellectuals of India who are brown outside and white inside. These are the kind of people who were happy in slavery, and mentally they are still slaves. Maybe she has been eating too much Jal and drinking too much bhaat. She has a brain freeze who can't think. She always tries to blame this nation for every problem pakis, beedis are having...
Dumb Somni Sengupta

Didnt she cry rape when she last visited some tribals in india or was this another commie babe?

harik · Post by **harik** » 20 Sep 2008 21:27

narayanan wrote:Small terminological inexactitude. If he IS the son of this worthy terrorist-breeder, then he cannot be a bast@rd. Perhaps you should rephrase that to "The ***** is son of the wife of the *********".

Yesterday's reports said he is a UP MINISTER, I think (too lazy to go back and check). This is an important distinction. Is he? IOW, is he just a local goon or a State-wide goon with access to cabinet-level stuff?

Dont get hyper ... Amar Singh Saab , "has given" as flashed on CNN-IBN given 10 Lakhs for the slain anti-human rights terrorist.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 20 Sep 2008 21:50

One news channel keep on coming, do we know where the terrorist went for (of course hiding), but we are made to believe for an interview just 24 hours before the terrorist escaped a life and death situation. Any idea about the news channel - I have a huge suspect list that's why I am asking.
rgds,
fanne

A Arun · Post by **A Arun** » 20 Sep 2008 21:59

fanne wrote:One news channel keep on coming, do we know where the terrorist went for (of course hiding), but we are made to believe for an interview just 24 hours before the terrorist escaped a life and death situation. Any idea about the news channel - I have a huge suspect list that's why I am asking.
rgds,
fanne

That was Aaj Tak.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 20 Sep 2008 22:22

Humm maybe CNN-IBN and NDTV has all the post like chief traitor, vice traitor in chief, traitor operator etc etc already filled in. Aaj Tak it seams had few opening.