Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby anishns » 29 Nov 2008 08:51

Thanks Faraz, very much appreciated!
I am sure the fallen braves having performed their karma are at peace

But, lets us not forget the sorrow of their families and hope that this Govt. and the billion people do not forget to show our gratitude in anyway possible!


faraz wrote:Changed it, Sir ! I am sorry !

I was joking on the porki terrorist. My Brother is in NSG and was involved in Akshardham operation. I know what a loss is.

The fallen braves are already in Heaven enjoying the company of Gods !



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Postby NRao » 29 Nov 2008 08:51

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/1 ... index.html

olleagues: Slain terror chief 'superb,' a 'daredevil'

(CNN) -- Hemant Karkare, Mumbai's slain terror chief, was a shrewd and unflappable investigator whose death is a blow to a police force that has difficult work ahead, his colleagues said this week.

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Hemant Karkare, left, was killed by gunmen in Mumbai shortly after this video was taken Wednesday.


According to accounts in Indian newspapers, Karkare, 54, was credited with solving many crimes and did his job apolitically and with the utmost integrity.

"The state Anti-Terrorism Squad has lost a daredevil officer in Hemant Karkare," Peter Lobo, chief inspector of the Anti-Terror Squad in Pune, told The Times of India on Thursday.

Karkare, head of Maharashtra state's Anti-Terrorism Squad, was heading home Wednesday when he learned gunmen were attacking the Oberoi hotel in Mumbai, Maharashtra's Deputy Chief Minister R.R. Patil told The Hindu newspaper.

Karkare later got word the situation at Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus was more serious. The terror chief and two other officers -- armed with automatic weapons -- jumped in a jeep and rushed to take on the terrorists, The Hindu reported. Video Watch how victims are coping with the attack »

Footage from CNN's sister network, CNN-IBN, showed Karkare donning a helmet and putting a bulletproof vest over his light blue shirt as uniformed police officers with firearms and walkie-talkies surrounded him.

It would be the last video taken of Karkare before terrorists shot him three times in the chest near Cama hospital, the site of another Wednesday attack in Mumbai.

"Though a workaholic, he was a soft-spoken officer. ATS has received a severe blow because of the untimely death of Karkare," Lobo told The Times of India before departing Pune to pay his respects to Karkare.
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Karkare joined the Indian Police Services in 1982. He became head of Maharashtra's Anti-Terror Squad in January after he returned from Austria, where he served seven years in the Research and Analysis Wing, India's external intelligence agency.

The post in Austria was testament to his acumen as a police officer, a colleague told The Times of India.

"Due to his excellent ability to handle things, he was posted to the Research and Analysis Wing in Austria. He was like family to me,'' said Bipin Gopalakrishna, who joined the force with Karkare in 1982.

According to CNN-IBN, Karkare was credited with solving bombing cases in Thane, Vashi and Panvel and played a key role in cracking the case of the September 29 blast in Malegaon, which reportedly killed six people. He also uncovered several radical Hindu groups operating in Maharashtra, according to media reports.

Karkare came under intense political pressure while investigating the Malegaon bombing, and it was widely reported that he warned officers in his command against succumbing to pressure to doctor evidence.

"We should do our job and it is for the court to decide," Karkare was quoted in several media outlets as saying. Video Watch officials speculate on who may be responsible for this week's attacks »

"He was simply superb. He could handle any difficult situation boldly and with a cool mind," Aurangabad Police Commissioner Thakur Deepaksinh Gaur told The Times of India. Gaur told the paper he had worked with Karkare in Aurangabad and Nanded.

Added another Indian Police Services officer: "His death is a huge loss to our force and society."

When not on the clock, Karkare was known to enjoy sculpting and could often be found whittling driftwood, The Indian Express reported. He also enjoyed music and dabbled in palm reading, former diplomat T.P. Sreenivasan told The Hindu.

"We used to put him in one of the stalls as an Indian palmist during the annual charity fair organized by the Indian ambassador and he was big hit with the crowd," said Sreenivasan, who worked with Karkare in Vienna for five years.

Sreenivasan told The Hindu that Karkare -- who had strong credentials in fighting terrorism, corruption and money laundering -- could have earned a post at a U.N. agency in Vienna, but chose instead to return home to serve India.

Karkare is well-admired, Sreenivasan told The Hindu, and is survived by a doting family and many friends and admirers.

Contacted in Pune, Karkare's brother Shirish found it difficult to speak about his brother's death Thursday.

"He was a father figure for me," the younger brother told The Times of India.
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Shirish's wife Amruta told the newspaper that the anti-terror chief would be laid to rest when his daughters arrived from overseas.

The older daughter Jui Navare lives in Boston, Massachusetts, she said, and the younger daughter studies at the London School of Economics. Karkare's son Akash is a student at R.A. Podor College of Commerce and Economics. His wife Kavita teaches at a college in Mumbai, she said

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby shiv » 29 Nov 2008 08:52

Ujjal wrote:IBN - "Operation still not over"


Well - to recap what has happened

shiv wrote:What is happening now is what happened yesterday

Times Now reporter sees something and say "Operation is over". Other people pick that up and start moving in and bump into surprised security personnel and photograph them and cheer them.

The police battle desperately with crowds to push back jubilant crowds and say "Operation is NOT over yet'. They cannot beat or shoot the crowds who are cheering - led by freelance photographers.

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby anishns » 29 Nov 2008 08:52

Arnab quoted that on TimesNow
saying that they had statements of the pig from the authorities
Rangudu wrote:Raju,

Where are you seeing this? Saline? Dehydration I suppose.

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby anishns » 29 Nov 2008 08:54

Thank god we have at least some sane journalists like Arnab in the face of this tragedy.
The other media has portrayed a very poor image of our media as a whole IMHO

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby wasu » 29 Nov 2008 08:56

Rangudu, arnab was reading from front page of mumbai mirror

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby shaardula » 29 Nov 2008 08:56

hamare liye kuch mushkil nahi hein.
-NSG Commando

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby Ujjal » 29 Nov 2008 08:57

Wow..Times Now is doing a real good job. Kudos, Arnab! NDTV, IBN = Epic Fail!

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby vdutta » 29 Nov 2008 08:58

When timesnow reporter asked a Black Cat who just came out about how hard operation was, he said "Humare liye kuch mushkil nahi hai" i.e. nothing is hard for us . thats the spirit.

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby lakshmikanth » 29 Nov 2008 08:58

Despite the Deepti "oooh aaaahh" Menon, I changed to Times Now as my official TV channel... Hope they dont screw that status up.

Arnab == " Hamare Liye Kuch Mushkil Nahi Hai" should be the headline of every news paper, and we should embrace it.

If the psec lobby does not get Arnab, he is a person to watch in the future.
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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby anishns » 29 Nov 2008 08:58

One of the commandos (army maybe) when asked how difficult was it by timesNow...

responded with a smile "Nothing is difficult for us!"

I think that should be the motto of every bombayite, mumbaikar and Indian, when we rebuild our glorious city and get it back on its feet again!

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby Jagan » 29 Nov 2008 09:00

Vishnu on NDTV says that the person falling out of the window was an NSG Commando

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby Duangkomon » 29 Nov 2008 09:03

Versace piglet will be soon reenacating scenes from Deliverance. But it is sweet justice indeed for the captured and soon-to-be-livin'-the-rest-of-his-short-ass-life-in-agonizing-pain is Miss Piggy herself. Allah is truly with us.

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby NRao » 29 Nov 2008 09:03

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/ ... 50,00.html


India's Muslims in Crisis
By Aryn Baker Thursday, Nov. 27, 2008

The disembodied voice was chilling in its rage. A gunman, holed up in the Oberoi Trident hotel in Mumbai (formerly Bombay), where some 40 people had been taken hostage, told an Indian news channel that the attacks were revenge for the persecution of Muslims in India. "We love this as our country, but when our mothers and sisters were being killed, where was everybody?" he asked via telephone. No answer came. But then he probably wasn't expecting one.

The roots of Muslim rage run deep in India, nourished by a long-held sense of injustice over what many Indian Muslims believe is institutionalized discrimination against the country's largest minority group. The disparities between Muslims, who make up 13.4% of the population, and India's Hindus, who hover at around 80%, are striking. There are exceptions, of course, but generally speaking, Muslim Indians have shorter life spans, worse health, lower literacy levels and lower-paying jobs. Add to that toxic brew the lingering resentment over 2002's anti-Muslim riots in the state of Gujarat. The riots, instigated by Hindu nationalists, killed some 2,000 people, most of them Muslims. To this day, few of the perpetrators have been convicted. (See pictures of the terrorist shootings in Mumbai.)

The huge gap between Muslims and Hindus will continue to haunt India's — and neighboring Pakistan's — progress toward peace and prosperity. But before intercommunal relations can improve, there are even bigger problems that must first be worked out: the schism in subcontinental Islam and the religion's place and role in modern India and Pakistan. It is a crisis 150 years in the making.

The Beginning of the Problem

On the afternoon of March 29, 1857, Mangal Pandey, a handsome, mustachioed soldier in the East India Company's native regiment, attacked his British lieutenant. His hanging a week later sparked a subcontinental revolt known to Indians as the first war of independence and to the British as the Sepoy Mutiny. Retribution was swift, and though Pandey was a Hindu, it was the subcontinent's Muslims, whose Mughal King nominally held power in Delhi, who bore the brunt of British rage. The remnants of the Mughal Empire were dismantled, and 500 years of Muslim supremacy on the subcontinent came to a halt.

Muslim society in India collapsed. The British imposed English as the official language. The impact was cataclysmic. Muslims went from near 100% literacy to 20% within a half-century. The country's educated Muslim élite was effectively blocked from administrative jobs in the government. Between 1858 and 1878, only 57 out of 3,100 graduates of Calcutta University — then the center of South Asian education — were Muslims. While discrimination by both Hindus and the British played a role, it was as if the whole of Muslim society had retreated to lick its collective wounds.

Out of this period of introspection, two rival movements emerged to foster an Islamic ascendancy. Revivalist groups blamed the collapse of their empire on a society that had strayed too far from the teachings of the Koran. They promoted a return to a purer form of Islam, modeled on the life of the Prophet Muhammad. Others embraced the modern ways of their new rulers, seeking Muslim advancement through the pursuit of Western sciences, culture and law. From these movements two great Islamic institutions were born: Darul Uloom Deoband in northern India, rivaled only by Al Azhar University in Cairo for its teaching of Islam, and Aligarh Muslim University, a secular institution that promoted Muslim culture, philosophy and languages but left religion to the mosque. These two schools embody the fundamental split that continues to divide Islam in the subcontinent today. "You could say that Deoband and Aligarh are husband and wife, born from the same historical events," says Adil Siddiqui, information coordinator for Deoband. "But they live at daggers drawn."

The campus at Deoband is only a three-hour drive from New Delhi through the modern megasuburb of Noida. Strip malls and monster shopping complexes have consumed many of the mango groves that once framed the road to Deoband, but the contemporary world stops at the gate. The courtyards are packed with bearded young men wearing long, collared shirts and white caps. The air thrums with the voices of hundreds of students reciting the Koran from open-door classrooms.

Founded in 1866, the Deoband school quickly set itself apart from other traditional madrasahs, which were usually based in the home of the village mosque's prayer leader. Deoband's founders, a group of Muslim scholars from New Delhi, instituted a regimented system of classrooms, coursework, texts and exams. Instruction is in Urdu, Persian and Arabic, and the curriculum closely follows the teachings of the 18th century Indian Islamic scholar Mullah Nizamuddin Sehalvi. Graduates go on to study at Cairo's Al Azhar or the Islamic University of Medina in Saudi Arabia, or they found their own Deobandi institutions.

Today, more than 9,000 Deobandi madrasahs are scattered throughout India, Afghanistan and Pakistan, most infamously the Dara-ul-Uloom Haqaniya Akora Khattak, near Peshawar, Pakistan, where Mullah Mohammed Omar and several other leaders of Afghanistan's Taliban first tasted a life lived in accordance with Shari'a. Siddiqui visibly stiffens when those names are brought up. They have become synonymous with Islamic radicalism, and Siddiqui is careful to dissociate his institution from those who carry on its traditions, without actually condemning their actions. "Our books are being taught there," he says. "They have the same system and rules. But if someone is following the path of terrorism, it is because of local compulsions and local politics."

Sir Syed Ahmad Khan, who founded the Anglo-Mohammedan Oriental College at Aligarh in 1877, studied under the same teachers as the founders of Deoband. But he believed that the downfall of India's Muslims was due to their unwillingness to embrace modern ways. He decoupled religion from education and in his school sought to emulate the culture and training of India's new colonial masters. Islamic culture was part of the curriculum, but so were the latest advances in sciences, medicine and Western philosophy. The medium was English, the better to prepare students for civil-service jobs. He called his school the Oxford of the East. In architecture alone, the campus lives up to that name. A euphoric blend of clock towers, crenellated battlements, Mughal arches, domes and the staid red brick of Victorian institutions that only India's enthusiastic embrace of all things European could produce, the central campus of Aligarh today is haven to a diverse crowd of male and female, Hindu and Muslim students. Its law and medicine schools are among the top-ranked in India, but so are its arts faculty and Quranic Studies Centre. "With all this diversity, language, culture, secularism was the only way to go forward as a nation," says Aligarh's vice chancellor, P.K. Abdul Azis. "It was the new religion."

This fracture in religious doctrine — whether Islam should embrace the modern or revert to its fundamental origins — between two schools less than a day's donkey ride apart when they were founded, was barely remarked upon at the time. But over the course of the next 100 years, that tiny crack would split Islam into two warring ideologies with repercussions that reverberate around the world to this day. Before the split became a crisis, however, the founders of the Deoband and Aligarh universities shared the common goal of an independent India. Pedagogical leanings were overlooked as students and staff of both institutions joined with Hindus across the subcontinent to remove the yoke of colonial rule in the early decades of the 20th century.

Two Faiths, Two Nations

But nationalistic trends were pulling at the fragile alliance, and India began to splinter along ethnic and religious lines. Following World War I, a populist Muslim poet-philosopher by the name of Muhammad Iqbal framed the Islamic zeitgeist when he questioned the position of minority Muslims in a future, independent India. The solution, Iqbal proposed, was an independent state for Muslim-majority provinces in northwestern India, a separate country where Muslims would rule themselves. The idea of Pakistan was born.

Mohammed Ali Jinnah, the Savile Row–suited lawyer who midwifed Pakistan into existence on Aug. 14, 1947, was notoriously ambiguous about how he envisioned the country once it became an independent state. Both he and Iqbal, who were friends until the poet's death in 1938, had repeatedly stated their dream for a "modern, moderate and very enlightened Pakistan," says Sharifuddin Pirzada, Jinnah's personal secretary. Jinnah's own wish was that the Pakistani people, as members of a new, modern and democratic nation, would decide the country's direction.

But rarely in Pakistan's history have its people lived Jinnah's vision of a modern Muslim democracy. Only three times in its 62-year history has Pakistan seen a peaceful, democratic transition of power. With four disparate provinces, more than a dozen languages and dialects, and powerful neighbors, the country's leaders — be they Presidents, Prime Ministers or army chiefs — have been forced to knit the nation together with the only thing Pakistanis have in common: religion.

Following the 1971 civil war, when East Pakistan, now Bangladesh, broke away, the populist Prime Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto embarked on a Muslim-identity program to prevent the country from fracturing further. General Mohammed Zia ul-Haq continued the Islamization campaign when he overthrew Bhutto in 1977, hoping to garner favor with the religious parties, the only constituency available to a military dictator. He instituted Shari'a courts, made blasphemy illegal and established laws that punished fornicators with lashes and held that rape victims could be convicted of adultery. When the Soviet Union invaded neighboring Afghanistan in December 1979, Pakistan was already poised for its own Islamic revolution.

Almost overnight, thousands of refugees poured over the border into Pakistan. Camps mushroomed, and so did madrasahs. Ostensibly created to educate the refugees, they provided the ideal recruiting ground for a new breed of soldier: mujahedin, or holy warriors, trained to vanquish the infidel invaders in America's proxy war with the Soviet Union. Thousands of Pakistanis joined fellow Muslims from across the world to fight the Soviets. As far away as Karachi, high school kids started wearing "jihadi jackets," the pocketed vests popular with the mujahedin. Says Hamid Gul, then head of the Pakistan intelligence agency charged with arming and training the mujahedin: "In the 1980s, the world watched the people of Afghanistan stand up to tyranny, oppression and slavery. The spirit of jihad was rekindled, and it gave a new vision to the youth of Pakistan."

But jihad, as it is described in the Koran, does not end merely with political gain. It ends in a perfect Islamic state. The West's, and Pakistan's, cynical resurrection of something so profoundly powerful and complex unleashed a force that gave root to al-Qaeda's rage, the Taliban's dream of an Islamic utopia in Afghanistan, and in the dozens of radical Islamic groups rapidly replicating themselves in India and around the world today. "The promise of jihad was never fulfilled," says Gul. "Is it any wonder the fighting continues to this day?" Religion may have been used to unite Pakistan, but it is also tearing it apart.

India Today

In India, Islam is, in contrast, the other — purged by the British, denigrated by the Hindu right, mistrusted by the majority, marginalized by society. There are nearly as many Muslims in India as in all of Pakistan, but in a nation of more than a billion, they are still a minority, with all the burdens that minorities anywhere carry. Government surveys show that Muslims live shorter, poorer and unhealthier lives than Hindus and are often excluded from the better jobs. To be sure, there are Muslim success stories in the booming economy. Azim Premji, the founder of the outsourcing giant Wipro, is one of the richest individuals in India. But for many Muslims, the inequality of the boom has reinforced their exclusion.

Kashmir, a Muslim-dominated state whose fate had been left undecided in the chaos that led up to partition, remains a suppurating wound in India's Muslim psyche. As the cause of three wars between India and Pakistan — one of which nearly went nuclear in 1999 — Kashmir has become a symbol of profound injustice to Indian Muslims, who believe that their government cares little for Kashmir's claim of independence — which is based upon a 1948 U.N. resolution promising a plebiscite to determine the Kashmiri people's future. That frustration has spilled into the rest of India in the form of several devastating terrorist attacks that have made Indian Muslims both perpetrators and victims.

A mounting sense of persecution, fueled by the government's seeming reluctance to address the brutal anti-Muslim riots that killed more than 2,000 in the state of Gujarat in 2002, has aided the cause of homegrown militant groups. They include the banned Student Islamic Movement of India (SIMI), which was accused of detonating nine bombs in Mumbai during the course of 2003, killing close to 80. The 2006 terrorist attacks on the Mumbai commuter-rail system that killed 183 people were also blamed on SIMI as well as the pro-Kashmir Pakistani terrorist group Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT). Those incidents exposed the all-too-common Hindu belief that Muslims aren't really Indian. "LeT, SIMI — it doesn't matter who was behind these attacks. They are all children of [Pervez] Musharraf," sneered Manish Shah, a Mumbai resident who lost his best friend in the explosions, referring to the then President of Pakistan. In India, unlike Pakistan, Islam does not unify but divide.

Still, many South Asian Muslims insist Islam is the one and only force that can bring the subcontinent together and return it to pre-eminence as a single whole. "We [Muslims] were the legal rulers of India, and in 1857 the British took that away from us," says Tarik Jan, a gentle-mannered scholar at Islamabad's Institute of Policy Studies. "In 1947 they should have given that back to the Muslims." Jan is no militant, but he pines for the golden era of the Mughal period in the 1700s and has a fervent desire to see India, Pakistan and Bangladesh reunited under Islamic rule.

That sense of injustice is at the root of Muslim identity today. It has permeated every aspect of society and forms the basis of rising Islamic radicalism on the subcontinent. "People are hungry for justice," says Ahmed Rashid, a Pakistani journalist and author of the new book Descent into Chaos. "It is perceived to be the fundamental promise of the Koran." These twin phenomena — the longing many Muslims feel to see their religion restored as the subcontinent's core, and the marks of both piety and extremism Islam bears — reflect the lack of strong political and civic institutions in the region for people to have faith in. If the subcontinent's governments can't provide those institutions, then terrorists like the Trident's mysterious caller will continue asking questions. And providing their own answers.

— With reporting by Jyoti Thottam / Mumbai and Ershad Mahmud / Islamabad

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby Sumeet » 29 Nov 2008 09:04

Vishnu will have to answer a lot of questions next time he comes here.

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby anishns » 29 Nov 2008 09:05

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Read all about it here!!

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Daily/sk ... in=default

While this pig looks hardened when he shot people ruthlessly, why is he breaking down so easily?
Do we have our own version Guantanamo bay!
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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby harik » 29 Nov 2008 09:05

Predictably, Narayan Rane has arrived on the spot, hope media ignores him.
But thats only a hope.

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby Ujjal » 29 Nov 2008 09:05

Now our kiddie pig will tell us what a^3 + b^3 is.

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby lakshmikanth » 29 Nov 2008 09:06

On Times now: Arnab repeating over and over again that terrorist was from Pakistan, stressed over and over again. Told docs that he wanted to live and give saline. GPS/Plans/Sat phone with Girlie-Pig!!!! this is a BIG catch.

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby Jay » 29 Nov 2008 09:07

Seems the situation if becoming clearer by the minute. A very Good Saturday Morning for desh, indeed. I just logged into the link from TimesNow and Arnab Goswamy is doing a wonderful job of putting a perspective on this. It has been a really traumatic for all the concerned people. JK Dutt, NSG DG has just said that three piglets have been sanitized and now the troops are doing a room - room search. He clearly said that the troops wont rest until each and every room has been searched and after three days of grief I like many Indes finally feel a little releif, thanks only to the soldiers and helpful civilians.

Fellow Indes, Please do not rest or be complacent, this is not the end. Be prepared to act, to react, to pounce upon and in the end be prepared to live free from fear.


ADDED: Lots of interesting things about the Girly piglet who was captured alive. Forget all the channels, everybody dial in to TIMESNOW.....

LONG LIVE THE NATION AND ITS PEOPLE
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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby Raj » 29 Nov 2008 09:07

Jagan wrote:Vishnu on NDTV says that the person falling out of the window was an NSG Commando

Times Now had the repeat of DG NSG press conference. He clears says that NSG Commando who died was Sandeep Unnikrishnan.

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby darshan » 29 Nov 2008 09:07

Sumeet wrote:Vishnu will have to answer a lot of questions next time he comes here.


Especially, how can NDTV declare somebody to be a Hindu just based on some thread on a wrist?
What kind of logic is that? And, who owns this network really apart from commies?

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby Rangudu » 29 Nov 2008 09:08

Is the Versace suar the only one captured alive across all locations? I thought there were 3 alive? There was no one caught alive from Nariman House and the Girgaum encounter but no one was alive at the Trident?

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby antaryami » 29 Nov 2008 09:08

[quote="lakshmikanth"]Despite the Deepti "oooh aaaahh" Menon, I changed to Times Now as my official TV channel... Hope they dont screw that status up.


Hey Guys leave the poor Girls alone Marookh and Deepti. They have done a great job.Getting excited is natural,it is like being on the Battlefront.They must have only watched these things in Hollywood or Bollywood movies. Good show girls u are going to have a huge fan following.

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby Raj » 29 Nov 2008 09:10

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/ ... 7931965031
From Mumbai Mirror
E X C L U S I V E
SENSATIONAL ACCOUNT OF HOW THIS MAN, FIRST CAPTURED ON CAMERA BY MUMBAI MIRROR, IS NOW HELPING COPS TO CRACK THE TERROR PLOT
RAKESH PRAKASH, RAVIKIRAN DESHMUKH AND DANISH KHAN


His swaggering image as he walked around Chhatrapati Shivaji terminus dispensing death was captured by Mumbai Mirror photo editor Sebastian D' souza, and was the first glimpse of the terrorists who have held Mumbai hostage over the last 48 hours.
Now we can also tell you who this man is and how he has become the vital link for investigating agencies to crack the terror plot.
His name is Azam Amir Kasav, he is 21 years old, speaks fluent English, hails from tehsil Gipalpura in Faridkot in Pakistan, and is the only terrorist from this audacious operation to have been captured alive.
An ATS spokesperson confirmed that the man captured was indeed the one photographed by us.
On the night of Wednesday-Thursday Azam and his colleague opened fire at CST before creating havoc at Metro and then moving on to Girgaum Chowpatty in a stolen Skoda, and where they were intercepted by a team from the Gamdevi police station. Azam shot dead assistant police inspector Tukaram Umbale.
But in that encounter Azam's colleague was killed and he himself was injured in the hand. He pretended to be dead giving rise to the news that two terrorists had been killed. However as the 'bodies' were being taken to Nair Hospital, the accompanying cops figured that one of the men was breathing.
According to sources, the casualty ward of Nair hospital was evacuated and the Anti-Terror Squad moved in to interrogate him. Azam who was tight-lipped initially, cracked upon seeing the mutilated body of his colleague and pleaded with the medical staff at Nair to save his life. "I do not want to die," he reportedly said. "Please put me on saline."
Ammunition, a satellite phone and a layout plan of CST was recovered from him. According to sources the young terrorist has given the investigators vital leads including how the chief planner of the Mumbai terror plot had come to the city a month ago, took picture and filmed strategic locations and trained their group and instructed them to "kill till the last breath." Every man was given six to seven magazines with fifty bullets each, eight hand grenades per terrorist with one AK-57, an automaticloading revolver and a supply of dry fruits.
Azam reportedly disclosed that the group left Karachi in one boat and upon reaching Gujarat they hoisted a white flag on their boat and were intercepted by two officers of the coast guard near Porbandar and while they were being questioned one of the terrorists grappled with one of the officers slit his throat and threw the body in the boat. The other officer was told to help the group reach Mumbai. When they were four nautical miles away from Mumbai there were three speedboats waiting for them where the other coastguard officer was killed. All the ammo was then shifted into these three spedboats they reached Colaba jetty on Wednesday night and the ten men broke up into groups of two each. Four of these men went to the Taj Mahal hotel, two of them to the Trident hotel, two towards Nariman House at Colaba and two of which Azam was one moved to CST.
Azam, who was at Nair hospital for nearly four hours, was taken away by the intelligence agencies in the early hours of Thursday to an unknown location after the hospital authorities had removed the bullet from his hand and declared that his condition stable. But it seems the police grilling was so intense that before he left the hospital for an undisclosed location he pleaded with the police and the medical staff to kill him. "Now, I don't want to live," he said.

Azam Amir Kasav, 21, from Faridkot Pakistan, is the only terrorist so far to have been captured alive
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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby vdutta » 29 Nov 2008 09:10

video of terrorist falling off the window.
http://broadband.indiatimes.com/toishow ... 772153.cms
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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby SwamyG » 29 Nov 2008 09:11

Was Arnab as good as this all the time? This is the first time I am seeing him.

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby sunilUpa » 29 Nov 2008 09:11

UNNECESSARY

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby SwamyG » 29 Nov 2008 09:12

Rangudu wrote:Is the Versace suar the only one captured alive across all locations? I thought there were 3 alive? There was no one caught alive from Nariman House and the Girgaum encounter but no one was alive at the Trident?

Exactly. I thought there were more of them caught. Daal mein kooch kala hain.

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It is easy to control the media. Unless you don't want to

Postby Shivani » 29 Nov 2008 09:13

lakshmikanth wrote:This is UNACCEPTABLE!


I was getting my BP high since the attacks started over the media's behaviour.

Yesterday evening I tuned into a GOI press conference where a babu praised the media's coverage. To the point of embarrassment. It became obvious that the media is reporting in this manner because it is being goaded by GOI, and there seems to be some unwritten arrangement. GOI does seem to have some control over local media and uses it to its purpose (eg. supressing the harassment of a worker at RAW).

So the truth seems to be that some babus in New Delhi decided that this kind of raw reporting will have show 'the true face of terror' register 'impact' in viewers and force west to act against west pakistan. These people are unimaginative and hopeless. They should not be in charge of governance.

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby putnanja » 29 Nov 2008 09:13

I hope the captured terrorist gets his wish to be killed, but very slowly so that he feels the pain of all the other innocent people killed. Let him suffer slowly for all the pain he has caused

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby Duangkomon » 29 Nov 2008 09:13

Rangudu wrote:Is the Versace suar the only one captured alive across all locations? I thought there were 3 alive? There was no one caught alive from Nariman House and the Girgaum encounter but no one was alive at the Trident?


Versace suar is the only one caught alive from Girguam. The tally from various other reports stands at 5 killed in Taj, 4 in Trident, 2 in Nariman 1 in Girguam.

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Postby vdutta » 29 Nov 2008 09:16

Rangudu wrote:Is the Versace suar the only one captured alive across all locations? I thought there were 3 alive? There was no one caught alive from Nariman House and the Girgaum encounter but no one was alive at the Trident?

even if lil piggie was the only one caught alive he is the best person to catch alive.
he is scared and started talking as soon as his gun was out of his hands.

also it looks like the flying pig was standing close to windows on the first floor.. as soon as he was shot he fell off/thrown out of window immediately.
btw did you guys see the security personal standing outside.. he was unmoved by this prig dropping..

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby SwamyG » 29 Nov 2008 09:17

In USA the TV personalities are included in the panel quite later. Desh mein the cine actors were at the forefront. The retired military & other security folks were added like an after thought. It would have been more useful to have veterans than cine actors. I don't have anything against cine actors. But ishtill, we need experts not aam admi during the operations.
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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby lakshmikanth » 29 Nov 2008 09:17

Times Now:
Sanitizing operation is going to take a long time. Dead Bodies may have been booby trapped
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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby Santosh » 29 Nov 2008 09:18

SwamyG wrote:
Singha wrote:they should be given a respectful and proper Hindu cremation in varanasi
before being sent to Yamalok for the afterlife. no 72, nothing but a daily
beating from Yama's cohort.

I want to commend that suggestion earlier when you mentioned it. That is the best psy-ops. Terrorists have no religions. So we cremate them according to Hindu rituals. We respect all the dead. As you said earlier, it should be telecast live on all TV channels.

Why? Those pigs will be an insult to Hinduism. We are better off without such murders.

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby Austin » 29 Nov 2008 09:20

D-company provided logistics to Mumbai attackers: Intelligence


The Mumbai attack has reinforced yet again that the terror groups in Pakistan are having a free run under the Asif Ali Zardari's civilian regime.

A clear Pakistani hand is evident from the interrogation of an arrested terrorist and from the intercepts of the terrorists holed up in Taj Hotel speaking to their handlers in Karachi. The initial investigation suggests that the meticulous planning was done to ensure that the Pakistani connection is not traced.

Sources say that while the attack was carried out by the Lashkar-e-Toiba, the role of India's top fugitive Dawood Ibrahim, who resides in Karachi under ISI's protection, has also come to the fore.

Intelligence sources say that it was Dawood's men who are believed to have provided the logistics for the operation, and his huge network in Mumbai helped the group in their attack and in a recce mission earlier.

The D-company that started off from a small smuggling syndicate on Dhows, small boats from Karachi and Dubai is well versed with the loopholes that exist in India's coastal security and exploited that.

While the modus operandi in the Marriot Hotel attack in Islamabad was the traditional manner in which suicide attacks are carried out, the modus operandi this time was part of a new terror strategy.

Sources say that with the mounting international pressure the new Pakistani government keen to distance itself from terror attacks, the terrorists tried to give it a spin of a home grown terror attack by talking about the alleged atrocities on Muslims by the Indian government, the terrorists also told a TV channel that they hailed from Hyderabad, even though their dialect and accent was a giveaway that they hailed from Pakistan.

While the targets were clearly chosen to hit at India's economic nerve centre, Mumbai, specifically the five star hotels were chosen for high impact visibility. The motive was also to scare foreign investors from India.

But even though sources are trying to draw a common cause with India as a victim of terrorism and Pakistan Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Kureshi talked about Pakistan's usual position at not being involved in the attack, New Delhi is not convinced.

What also adds to the fact that the Pakistan government elements were clearly involved is the modus operandi and sophistication of the attack.

While the terrorists were well prepared to hold out and sustain a commando operation points to the fact that it couldn't have been done without adequate training in a military establishment and that is where the ISI is believed to have played a role, sources say.

"The fact that they are holding out even now proves that these were not some rookie fidayeen but well trained terrorists by regular army, it resembles closely to the kind of operation that was carried out in Kargil, where some regular Army soldiers were used by Pakistan," remarked an intelligence official.

While the incident has already caused fissures in the fragile Indo-Pak relationship, India will have to rethink its policy of an armada of CBM's with Pakistan without any reciprocity on its core concern of terrorism.

Sources say that in coming days international pressure will mount on Pakistan as a number of foreign nationals have been killed. With the US President elect Barack Obama speaking about hunting down terrorists in Pakistan, the Mumbai attack may well see a new level of strategic cooperation between India and the US to stamp out Pakistan sponsored terrorism.

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby darshan » 29 Nov 2008 09:21

All the needed info should be extracted ASAP and this captured guy should be killed ASAP before some politico decides to release him in next hostage situation.

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby Shyam_K » 29 Nov 2008 09:21

Raj wrote: Azam reportedly disclosed that the group left Karachi in one boat and upon reaching Gujarat they hoisted a white flag on their boat and were intercepted by two officers of the coast guard near Porbandar and while they were being questioned one of the terrorists grappled with one of the officers slit his throat and threw the body in the boat. The other officer was told to help the group reach Mumbai. When they were four nautical miles away from Mumbai there were three speedboats waiting for them where the other coastguard officer was killed.


Is this accurate? Did CG lose officers is this attack?

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Re: Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

Postby sunilUpa » 29 Nov 2008 09:24

Shyam_K wrote:
Raj wrote: Azam reportedly disclosed that the group left Karachi in one boat and upon reaching Gujarat they hoisted a white flag on their boat and were intercepted by two officers of the coast guard near Porbandar and while they were being questioned one of the terrorists grappled with one of the officers slit his throat and threw the body in the boat. The other officer was told to help the group reach Mumbai. When they were four nautical miles away from Mumbai there were three speedboats waiting for them where the other coastguard officer was killed.


Is this accurate? Did CG lose officers is this attack?


I am not so sure, boat being met at high seas by only two CG officers?


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