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Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby Baljeet » 13 Feb 2009 01:58

sanjaykumar wrote:Baljeet, if you were Manmohan Singh, what would you do?


Sanjay Kumar
Since you asked the question and I will respond. If I were Manmohan Singh, I will tell the nation I have failed this nation and her citizens, her integrity, dishonored the fallen of this nation, then I will shoot myself in the head.

What will you do? Start a yatra for WKK

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby Chinmayanand » 13 Feb 2009 02:11

Baljeetji , if you were the Prime Minister , you would have all the power to nuke porkistan and still you would choose to shoot yourself ???? :shock:

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby ramana » 13 Feb 2009 02:12

The question was not if you were the PM but if you were MMS!

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby Prem » 13 Feb 2009 02:27

ramana wrote:The question was not if you were the PM but if you were MMS!

Change the name to {something that won't add goat dropping clusters to Prem's Hilal, please}

At least ones named "Singhs" dont have to bear the shame.

Jokes aside , he is wounded but not out.I am hoping there is still lion part left in him.

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby NRao » 13 Feb 2009 02:38

In the case of the Mumbai attack the US seemed to have some info - which they seemed to have shared with India - that an attack was imminent.

In the case of the Afghanistan attack the Afghans seem to have intelligence rather early - just after the attack, that the attackers contacted someone within Pakistan just prior to the attack. I have to wonder if the US did have more info than that.

Which brings up the point if the US actually has another game plan for the region.

However, Indian HUMINT better improve. Considering everything that is happening within India it is rotting beyond repair.

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby NRao » 13 Feb 2009 02:40

I am hoping there is still lion part left in him


IF he can get away from Her Highness, perhaps.

No matter what he make a better FinMin than a PM. A FinMin in PM cloths cannot make much progress.

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby putnanja » 13 Feb 2009 03:49

The hidden American helping hand - DNA proof did the trick, say officials

One reason behind Islamabad’s acceptance that the Mumbai attacks were partly plotted in Pakistan could be DNA proof sent by India, home ministry sources told The Telegraph today.

Genetic samples from the lone surviving gunman, Ajmal Kasab, and a few of his nine slain comrades had been matched with those of their relatives in Pakistan with “foreign help”, the sources said.

They did not spell out who had helped and how, but revealed that Indian and US experts had been involved in a lengthy exchange of forensic evidence over the past few weeks.s

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The 30 answers (or pieces of evidence) that Pakistan has sought include a demand for the terrorists’ DNA samples and fingerprints. The sources said this could be a pointer that Islamabad had been impressed by the DNA evidence and wanted physical samples to carry out its own confirmatory tests. :roll:

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby NRao » 13 Feb 2009 04:36

Pakistan has surrendered before India: LeT

Srinagar Slamming Pakistan's probe report into the Mumbai terror attacks, the banned Lashker-e-Toiba (LeT) militant outfit on Thursday accused Islamabad of implicating its leaders in the case 'to get a pat on its back from India and the US'.

"Pakistan has surrendered before India.... LeT was not behind the Mumbai terror attack at all," spokesman of the outfit Abdullah Gaznavi claimed in Srinagar.

The outfit condemned Pakistan's decision to probe its senior commander Zakiur Rahman Lakhvi and the filing of FIR against others in the Mumbai terror attack case.

"LeT strongly condemns the filing of FIR...It seems that Pakistan has lodged the FIR to get a pat from India and Amercia," Gaznavi said over phone.

"It (India) has implicated LeT in the Mumbai terror attack which is mere allegation," Gaznavi said.

"We want to ask the Pakistan's interior ministry chief Rehman Malik whom does he want to please," the spokesman said.

"The US had lent open support to India and put pressure on Pakistan," Gaznavi said.


Is there another Srinagar?

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby Pranay » 13 Feb 2009 04:44

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/13/world ... ml?_r=1&hp

Updated NYT report with the usual spin added in for good measure...

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby Pranay » 13 Feb 2009 04:55

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/US-t ... 120445.cms

Former high commissioner to Pakistan G Parthasarathy said, "Pakistan's acknowledgement of reality was brought about by relentless US pressure despite lack of concrete Indian action."

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby RajeshA » 13 Feb 2009 05:20

This may not be the right place for this comment, but since this threads acts as the abode of most rants ...

There is a need to make Indian Democracy a representative democracy. Perhaps we ought to allow that elections in India become twice as costly in order to bring about 10 times the benefits. (I wonder how that works when the benefits may even be in the negative area)

As of now, any politician who earns more votes than all the others becomes the elected representative of the people of that constituency. This has to be changed into a rule that only who wins more than 50% of all votes cast, wins the election. If in the first phase, nobody wins more than 50%, then the election would have to be repeated with only the two candidates, who get the maximum number of votes.

This would force every politician to appeal to a larger cross-section of people. The politicians would not be able to afford to stay parochial. They would have to find issues that have an appeal across caste and religious divisions. They will also not be able to bulldoze their way to their seats through goondagardi, as goondagardi and populist politics can only allow you to win a certain percentage of votes, but all the other voters are dead-set against such a candidate.

I am of the firm belief, that this electoral practice has skewed our whole sense of democracy.

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby Prem » 13 Feb 2009 05:43

NRao wrote:Pakistan has surrendered before India: LeT
Is there another Srinagar?


Its Suarnagar across the border.

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby sum » 13 Feb 2009 09:02

Is there another Srinagar?

The call by the hon. Ghaznavi was made to headlines Today office in Srinagar, capital of J&K held by the evil SDREs.

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby VikramS » 13 Feb 2009 10:51

RajeshA:

I was thinking about the election issue myself. In a multi-party system with ballots often with 50-100 candidates, anyone offering the right incentives to swing vote can win an election. I do not have the exact numbers but in the winning candidate does not win 50% of the vote more often than not. With the rise of regional parties and 3-way contests, it is very possible that a person getting 35% of the vote wins the election. There has to be a minimum threshold (say 40%) below which a run-off election should be require with top 2 or 3 candidates (or anyone within 7% of the highest vote getter). In the days of electronic voting machines this should be easy to achieve. If holding a run-off election is not possible, then preferential voting should be introduced with a voter being allowed to vote for up to 3 candidates as his or her 1st/2nd/3rd choice. Again this should be easy to achieve with electronic machines.

Currently the system is rigged in the favor of the swing vote which is not representative of the majority of voters.

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby pgbhat » 13 Feb 2009 14:11

Suspects to be tried in camera

RAWALPINDI, Feb 12: All suspects arrested in connection with Mumbai attacks would be tried in the Adiala Central jail under the anti-terrorism law, informed sources told Dawn on Thursday. The trial will be held in camera. :rotfl:


what is TSP trying to pull here?

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby enqyoob » 13 Feb 2009 18:19

From cnn-ibn:

""A part of the conspiracy has been done in Pakistan," the minister admitted, adding that a first information report (FIR) was registered in Islamabad on Thursday.

The FIR number is 01/2009 and it was lodged in the Special Investigating Unit in Samba."
Ah! There u go! Tells you how SERIOUS the Pakis are. ALREADY ONE FIRST INFORMATION REPORT REGISTERED IN ISLAMAGOOD IN 2009! And it's only February 12!

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby enqyoob » 13 Feb 2009 23:40

A national leadership with a sense of purpose, and a trustworthy example?
The reason why ppl followed the early leadership of India was not their "Polo" or "Seduction" perfume or their PhDs or their deep baritone voices or their muscles, but the fact that they were people who made personal choices that got them beaten, robbed, and thrown in jail by monsters, in the cause of India.

Who can today's soldier look up to other than his own comrades?

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby Rudradev » 13 Feb 2009 23:49

During Kargil there were long queues outside IA recruiting stations all over the country.

A belief that the armed forces will in fact be deployed to fulfill their purpose... to defend the people and land of this country... has served in the past to draw more than enough recruits. That belief does not exist in the popular mentality today... or perhaps even in the mentality of the armed forces themselves.

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby John Snow » 14 Feb 2009 00:04

IndraD wrote:Indian army battles manpower crisis

how to solve this :|


IA needs more of brain power than man power, unless ofcourse we want to fight like the battle of stalingard or Kargil war you just want to throw young officers and soldiers with out thinking through handicaps except some one who is Golf course.

If 10 motivated fanatics can do that much imagine if we deploy a dirty dozen on TSP?

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby Pranay » 14 Feb 2009 05:32

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/14/world ... &ref=world

The Indian national security adviser, M. K. Narayanan, in an interview last week, praised the United States for its support in the aftermath of the Mumbai attacks, but signaled that India expected more.

“Few countries in recent memory have been so helpful, but I don’t think they have been able to get Pakistan to do what we finally want: deliver criminals who were responsible,” Mr. Narayanan said. “Perhaps there is still hope the United States will be able to prevail on the Pakistan government, and if not, whether there will be some penalties they are willing to impose on Pakistan, such as curbing the funding to the military, which would probably hurt them more than anything else.”

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby ShauryaT » 14 Feb 2009 09:20

Blinkered vision
Bharat Karnad

Repeated incidents of terrorist violence in India engineered by Pakistan army’s Inter-Services Intelligence-assisted Islamic extremists raise questions about the Indian government’s reluctance to order retaliatory strikes and, absent such measures, whether the Indian military is at all capable of hitting back.

India’s inaction has often been explained away, as Shekhar Gupta has tried to do in his last column (‘No first-use options’, IE, January 17), as the consequence of its losing the conventional military edge vis a vis Pakistan which, he avers, is the basis for the ‘No First Use’ (NFU) principle supposedly animating India’s nuclear strategy. India, in the event, has suffered a double whammy: it is unable to use either its conventional military or nuclear forces coercively. Such arguments both disregard the unique nature of India-Pakistan “wars” and how it has habituated the Indian armed services to the wrong kind of force planning that has obtained for the country military capabilities to contain a minor foe but not the major threat, and misunderstand the nuclear dynamic in South Asia.

Take 26/11. If the ISI could embark irregulars on an operation to shoot up Mumbai hotels, they could as easily have launched a team of underwater demolition experts to do a “Pearl Harbour”, sink with limpet mines and similar ordnance a good part of the Indian Navy’s Western Fleet berthed less than a kilometer away from the Taj Hotel, and which attack no Quick Reaction Teams patrolling the area would have been able to prevent. The ISI do not undertake such eminently doable missions in the main because that would push India beyond its pain-bearing threshold resulting in Pakistan’s destruction, whatever the cost to India. It is a denouement the Pakistan Army understands well and seeks in extremis to avoid. As the ISI Chief, Lieutenant General Ahmad Shuja Pasha, said in a recent interview on a related matter, “We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds.” However, the Pakistan army will happily persist with using terrorism as an asymmetric means to keep its larger, more powerful, neighbour off-balance, especially as it is seen to occasion neither reprisal nor incur great cost.

If Pakistan does not want to push India into a nuclear conflict owing to a grossly adverse “exchange ratio” — the bearable losses for India versus the unbearable ones for Pakistan — Delhi since 1947 has been mindful of domestic political factors that make impossible the waging of a war of annihilation against Pakistan. The growing political clout of the Indian Muslim community (over 13% of the population) constituting the swing vote in some 25% of the Lok Sabha constituencies, ensures Pakistan is safe from total destruction. Indian Muslims, with continuing bonds of kinship, culture and religion with the Pakistani people, might countenance the bloodying of Pakistan in war but not its extinction. What has, therefore, ensued are “wars of manoeuvre” with no lasting effect, which the late Major General D.K. Palit famously described as “communal riots with tanks”. Counter-force engagements restricted in terms of duration, casualties, geographic space, time and the eschewal of counter-city bombardment and ending in speedy return to the status quo ante characterise the subcontinent’s system of severely constrained wars. It is something the Indian military has adjusted to, if not wisely then only too well.

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby Raju » 14 Feb 2009 10:14

If Pakistan does not want to push India into a nuclear conflict owing to a grossly adverse “exchange ratio” — the bearable losses for India versus the unbearable ones for Pakistan — Delhi since 1947 has been mindful of domestic political factors that make impossible the waging of a war of annihilation against Pakistan. The growing political clout of the Indian Muslim community (over 13% of the population) constituting the swing vote in some 25% of the Lok Sabha constituencies, ensures Pakistan is safe from total destruction. Indian Muslims, with continuing bonds of kinship, culture and religion with the Pakistani people, might countenance the bloodying of Pakistan in war but not its extinction.


Indians Muslims will not oppose extinction of Pakistan in event of a terrorist strike sponsored from across border. Completely disagree with BK reasoning here. These are just excuses for inaction. Fact of the matter is that those in dilli do not want even a tiny amount of risk to their life and property irrespective of any provocatary action.

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby Singha » 14 Feb 2009 10:26

the shortage is in the officer corps direct recruitment probably. there is no lack of volunteers for jawan posts. every recruitment rally results in a minor riot as thousands of young men show up.

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby Aditya_V » 14 Feb 2009 13:41

SIngha, you hit the nail on the head. In the poorer sections of society joining the miltary is still ok.

In the more properous ones any career option where you don't have too much of a chance to settle down in US, UK, Australia, Canada or Europe is looked down upon.

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby RajeshA » 14 Feb 2009 14:09

One way to get educated people into the Officer's Corp of the Armed Services is to offer some prospect for a life after retirement or after service of a certain number of years above some position of responsibility.

1. An officer should be a able to buy or build a house somewhere, possibly in a colony of defense personnel, and he should get a mortgage on it, which is payable only through service, and not just service but responsible service.

2. An officer, after leaving service, should be able to get free access to certain consultancy services for business development.

3. An officer, after leaving service, should be able to get a generous credit line from some government-supported venture capital company.

4. Retired officers can become consultants in private security firms, or establish one themselves, and these firms should be considered positively by the government. Think-tanks can be an option. They could write books.

5. Retired officers could also become consultants in defense contractors in the military-industry complex.

6. The society should be more open to accepting retired military personnel in positions of responsibility, be it in companies, industry, NGOs, government-financed special interest bodies, voluntary organizations, etc. Retired officers should be positively looked upon when they join politics.

The point is, there needs to be strong incentive.

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby John Snow » 14 Feb 2009 19:52

BK did not extend the analysis to its complete logical conclusion.

The TSP guys after sinking the Western Fleet would prpose joint investigation and would demand a complete proof that TSP was involved, instead they would suggest that Somali Pirates avenged the destruction of their pirate comrades...

and we would go into familiar wild goose chase....

****
Also read the oozing gratitude of NSA chief to US adminstration for leaning on TSP so much for our bravado to take on TSP any time any where.

A clear sign of outsourcing to US us. Probalably chanikyan neeti of being us with US.

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby CRamS » 14 Feb 2009 21:43

John Snow:

From a cost/benefit PoV, if India can get US to stop supporting TSP terrorist machine, the TSPA/ISI, it will be the most efficient way of achieving Indian objectives visa vi TSP. I see nothing wrong with that. Of course, can India trust US to deliver? Thats the million $ question we have debated many many times.

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby Bhaskar » 15 Feb 2009 02:35

Indian Air Force 'bombs' Rajasthan village?
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Indian-Air-Force-bombs-Rajasthan-village/articleshow/4130266.cms

Is our airforce planning anything?

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby Chinmayanand » 15 Feb 2009 04:13

Take it with a pinch of salt for what it is worth ...
Mumbai Mystery: American Designs on Pakistan and India

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby svinayak » 15 Feb 2009 04:29

http://www.newscentralasia.net/Articles ... s/392.html
American Dilemma: The US military is burning nearly 600000 gallons of fuel per day. More than 80% of this comes from Pakistan, through 700 or so road tankers that are vulnerable to all kinds of attacks on their long journey from facilities in Pakistan to American bases in Afghanistan.

The reserves in Afghanistan will suffice for only two weeks if the supply line is disrupted.

Aware of this, the Americans have been trying to create an alternate route through Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan. Even if the alternate route is opened fully, it is very long and inefficient and there are risks that Americans are not in a position to counter at present.

There is need to abandon the Pakistan route but there is nothing to replace it.

Bifurcating Pakistan: The solution that is agreed to nearly unanimously by the American policymakers is that Pakistan must be split into two parts: the Americans would like Balochistan province to become an independent country and they don’t care where the rest of Pakistan goes.

In fact, it is a goal the Neocons have been pursuing for a long time. A few years ago, they pumped Baloch insurgency but it proved an exercise in futility.

Vickers, in one position or the other, has never been far away from the process of decision-making. He sees many advantages in splitting Pakistan into two parts.

Benefits of bifurcating Pakistan: From American point of view, there are many benefits in creating an independent Balochistan:

* An independent Balochistan will be an ideal territory to keep supply lines open to the US and NATO forces in Afghanistan.
* Independent Balochistan will provide Americans with excellent locations for putting up their military and naval bases to police the Persian Gulf and make sure that no other naval power including India, China and Russia ever gets upper hand in the Indian Ocean.
* An independent Balochistan will be the place from where Americans can maintain permanent pressure on Iran, even in the remote possibility that they may have to eventually leave Iraq.
* China and Russia will be denied any access to the warm waters of the Indian Ocean.
* The Gulf countries will remain dependent on the USA for export routes of their hydrocarbon products.
* Full control of the entrance to the Gulf will enable USA to allow or deny oil flow by tankers to any country in the world.
* Central Asia is a land-locked region and the whole region would be on the mercy of the United States.
* If Balochistan is detached from Pakistan, the rest of Pakistan is likely to exist as a perpetually unstable entity, creating a permanent source of trouble for India. This fits nicely with other American plans because India has come very close to becoming an economic rival of the United States.

Why Mumbai incident: One doesn’t need to be an exceptionally brilliant person to understand immediately that Pakistan had nothing to gain and everything to lose from Mumbai incident.

If we assume that it was done by a jihadi outfit on its own, it would be the most foolish thing to do because of the consequences that should have been discernible at the time of planning.

However, if we agree to the assertion that Vickers planned it, through proxy forces, for advancement of American objectives in the region, everything suddenly makes sense.

Here are some pointers:

* One logical consequence is that India and Pakistan would probably go to war or at least move their forces to the borders in a position of war readiness. Every expert knows that keeping forces ready for war is nearly seven to eight times more expensive than keeping them in the barracks. This is an excellent way to make sure that Indian and Pakistani economies would be crippled for a long time to come.
* India and Pakistan are negotiating for two gas pipelines, one from Iran and the other from Turkmenistan. There are also plans to put oil pipelines from Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan to South Asia. USA would use every method to deny India the energy resources of Central Asia and IranIndia is not what USA has in mind. The tide has reversed already and it is not to the liking of the Americans. Students from the United States are now coming to India, Indian businessmen are giving tough time to American corporations worldwide, and India has entered some of the export markets that were traditionally dominated by the west. In short, a weak India will be acceptable as a friend but a strong India will be a pain in the neck for Americans. because an economically strong
* The global financial and economic crisis was triggered by the follies and dishonest practices of the American corporations; the American economy is still in free fall and the end is nowhere in sight. On the other hand, the Indian economy has not suffered a proportionately comparative loss. The steep fall on one side and the lesser fall on the other means that the real gap between the American and Indian economies has somewhat narrowed down because of the twin financial and economic crises. Mumbai incident is an attempt to remedy the situation in favour of the United States.
* In a way, Mumbai incident is similar in concept to Bin Laden tapes. With dependable regularity, Bin Laden tapes appeared whenever Bush was going through difficult times. The Mumbai incident magically appeared when Americans needed to remove Pakistani forces from the Afghan border so that American forces could operate freely in the Frontier province of Pakistan, and push for bifurcation of Pakistan to solve their supply problems permanently.



Reaction in India: As far as we have been able to confirm through our sources, Indian leadership is trying to handle the situation in a calm and measured manner. However there are two kinds of pressures on the Congress government: From one side they are being pressed by BJP and other parties through public protest, and on the other side they are being pressured by the Americans to act fast and hard against Pakistan.

For instance, we know for sure that the name of Hamid Gul was included in the list of people wanted by India on the insistence of Americans. India never wanted to put Gul on the list. Americans forced them to include his name because it is an impossible demand; refusal by Pakistan to hand over Gul would give opportunity to Americans to push India for war.

India-Pakistan confrontation: As mentioned, Americans have maneuvered India to place impossible demands on Pakistan. The next logical step would be to encourage India to deploy its forces along the Pakistan border, forcing Pakistan to do the same on its side of the border.

By any degree of confrontation, both the countries would be net losers; the only winner would be the United States.

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby Raju » 15 Feb 2009 10:27

Misha’s phrase ‘Yankee-Jihadi Marriage’ was the key we were trying on every lock.

Something seemed to click after a while.


this angle was coming to mind again and again after Mumbai.

thus there was a sense of helplessness I felt about this.

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby Raju » 15 Feb 2009 12:38

Two more successful moves on the chessboard and the Americans would be in a position to block RussiaChina in the greater Central Asian region.


so more moves are coming. Read this as two more successful attacks in the region sponsored by Vickers.
this will cement their plan.


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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby Bhaskar » 16 Feb 2009 05:27

India could not respond to these terrorist attacks because our weak Manmohan Singh government wouldn't give money to our armed forces, and delayed almost every project.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/KB11Df01.html
It's official - India is not ready for war

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby archan » 16 Feb 2009 07:18

Sad state of affairs. Perhaps the Army/Navy/AF chiefs should take more active role in terms of giving out statements in the media. They maintain a degree of decorum and aloofness which would have been nice in a democracy but when national interests are being hurt and that too by the political leadership, the protocols can be ignored, IMO.

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby Baljeet » 18 Feb 2009 03:57

Archan
All true but you can't expect much more from Indian Military. They are treated like a Gulam, expected to perform at highest level where difference between life and death could be half a step, whilst their civilian counterparts are living in their govt furnished palatial homes. Retired beaurocrats like SSMennon, NSA advisor like Naryanan who at best are licking hairy grapes.
Sense I get from some of my friends who are tad below Brig Rank, they want to get their fair shake. They are still loyal to their nation but want to "behti ganga mein haath doh liye" that's why you see scandals coming up like supplies scam, ration scam, fuel scam, etc.

We all can agree or disagree, this cannot continue infinitum, something will crack and whole infrastructure will fall. This nation is staring at her 2nd coming of Islamic slavery, yet most people are napping and in typical Indian Ishtyle want to argue till the end of time.

All military modernizations take long time and money. We don't even have a plan for stop gap measures. We make tall promises to aam aadmi, make big media blare how we are going to increase defence budget, how the process will be streamlined. All political parties, some "bhookhmara lawyer" can file a PIL and start investigation into any contract, that delays the process in the mean time this "bhookhmara lawyer" got his practise started.

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby Chinmayanand » 18 Feb 2009 13:32

Navy chief warns of nuke attack from sea

Time for a new thread : Indian Non-response to Nuke Terror :mrgreen:

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Re: Indian Non-response to Terrorism after Mumbai

Postby Aditya_V » 18 Feb 2009 17:47

Hand over Kasab to Pakistan: Islamabad to Delhi


http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Hand-over-Kasab-to-Pakistan-Islamabad-to-Delhi/425169/

Pakistanis are really people who belive the sun rises in the west and the world is flat. Anyone with any sense would know since the crime happenned in India, it is they who must be handing over the suspects..


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