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I am sorry, words are starting to become meaningless, what can we say when over 200 CRPF men die in area in less than half a year?

This is not "naxalism" this is war in its most brutal form, and must be replied to by as such.
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^^ Furthermore the article says that Helis had to ABORT because darkness fell through!!! In the 21 century, when NIGHT BLINDNESS should NOT affect the IAF/IM, they still lack the basic NIGHT FIGHTING capability, what's worst is they proudly showcase all these ablity in International and Domestic Air excersies YET FAIL to use it WHEN NEEDED!!! So much for the PR!!! NO FLIR/THERMAL/Foilage penetrating radars are availabe from them to detect ANY movements let alone the ability to remotely detect and bast IED (although I'll give IAF the benefit of the doubt on this one, as unlike convential IED's the ones used by the MAOISTS are BURIED deep inside the roads making them very harder to detect, but the least they could do is have jammers to block the frequency, as i'm sure they have to detnoate it somehow and it would NOT be a FUSE activated IED!)
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Maoists attack CRPF party in Chhattisgarh, 26 jawans killed
Raipur: Twenty six CRPF jawans have been killed and seven injured in what is being seen as another major Naxal attack in Chhattisgarh.

Sources said at least 90 Maoists ambushed a 63-strong CRPF road-opening party in an area under Dhaurai police station, 3 km from the CRPF camp in Narayanpur district of the state, at about 3 pm on Tuesday.

The CRPF men from 39 Battalion, E and F company, were securing the area ahead of a two-day Naxal-sponsored bandh starting tomorrow.

Home Secretary GK Pillai says that the injured have been evacuated

Read more at: http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/maois ... d-34642?cp
ASSESSMENT OF AN AAR OF THEIR STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESS:

Maiosts - Location Advantage (ATOP a hilly terrain)
90 - MAIOSTS
63 - Jawans
27 - Killed
7 - Injured
30 - Survived

90 vs 63 the ratio is 1.5 (rounded off), Clearly this would NOT classifly as OUTNUMBERED, as they CRPF Jawans OUGHT to be well trained to handle a large group considering their past experiences of being attacked with a FAR higher number of Maiosts....
The MAIOSTS again showed they had SOLID INTELLIGENCE gathering capability and their ability to execute a plan on a short notice by identifying the EXACT spot of execution further proves that they know the TERRAIN all to well and are equally well trained maybe even better than CRPF Jawans!
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I'd rather attribute it to lack of training and more importantly, lack of leadership by the officers.

Why is it that in all those encounters, no one hears about any officers of the CRPF being present with the troops? Why is it that one of the defining factors in successful counter insurgency operations by the army is the high officers to jawans casualty ratio?

To me it is a clear case of leadership failure - the CRPF troops that are dying everyday are dying because the officers have not led them well, nor for that matter trained them well.

One piece of information i require, is it the IPS that provides officers to the CRPF, or is it career officers of the CRPF itself?
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kancha wrote:One piece of information i require, is it the IPS that provides officers to the CRPF, or is it career officers of the CRPF itself?
Both. The top ranks of any CPO would be IPS officers. For example the current DG Vikram Srivastava is an IPS officer. So could be some of the other ranks like Addl. DG etc. How ever CPOs also recruit men directly to the rank of Asst.Commandants (eq. ASP in IPS) who would also pick up ranks and move to DIG levels. The SP/Comdt., would be staffed by a mix of IPS and promotee Assistant Commandants from the CPO only. Honestly as some one already pointed out we really need to think about the "officer capabilities" of officers in CPOs. Looks like a lot of chaltha hein attitude is present in the higher ups.
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Sachin wrote:For example the current DG Vikram Srivastava is an IPS officer. . . . .
Why hasn't he been fired yet? Where's the accountability??
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Yes, lack of training, logistics, leadership. Training is extremely poor for the newly raised battalions.

And similar blunders in Kashmir. Why can’t they use water cannons that outrange stone pelters. Even fire trucks could do. The resultant common cold/pneumonia would immobilize pelters for atleast a week.
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Sachin wrote:
kancha wrote:One piece of information i require, is it the IPS that provides officers to the CRPF, or is it career officers of the CRPF itself?
Both. The top ranks of any CPO would be IPS officers.
Yes, and have the best of both worlds for the IPS officers - all the perks and powers of the top ranks and none of the grind of the lower ones. Where would an assistant commandant of the CRPF find the motivation to put his life on line when he sees no future for himself in the upper echelons of his organization.
And the IPS officers who must be on deputation for limited duration, how would they ever come to know of the problems that the troops on ground face, let alone working to solve them? This whole culture of imposing aliens to direct the policies and functioning of such a force is what is wrong with the setup.
Craig Alpert wrote:...by identifying the EXACT spot of execution further proves that they know the TERRAIN all to well and are equally well trained maybe even better than CRPF Jawans!
@ Craig Alpert, I feel you are only partially right on this one, walking on a road flanked by hills doesn't require rocket science to know the danger, especially when you have just had a Dantewada a couple of months ago. Besides, 63 jawans are not required to 'clear' a road, part of the force needs to be employed to cover the areas from where an ambush might be sprung. But we never learn from our past mistakes :x
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Gaur wrote:^^
abhijitm,
I am only an Armchair General, so please do not ask me about tactics. I will only disappoint. But it is worth noting that IA patrols never suffered these kind of casualties even during the height of insurgency. How many times have you heard an IA patrol being ambushed in such a way? So, one would assume that something is very wrong in the way the patrols are planned and carried out. Hopefully, this would be remedied after sufficient no of soldiers get trained by IA. Also, as many other posters have voiced, I am too of the opinion that while IA should not be ordered to carry out anti naxalite operations, it would be infinitely helpful if IA is allowed to raise an anti-naxalite para military force whose soldiers should be selected from CPOs.
But then how many times have you heard of IA patrols being ambushed by terrorists/insurgents in their 100's. The job that the Paramilitary are doing is quite possibly much more difficult and larger than IA in J&K with a fraction of the resources available to IA. Its quite apparent that the counter naxal forces are getting out gunned and out numbered. in J&K the ratio of the number of terrorists to security personal is > 1:100, Its hard to think that the force ratio here in the operational areas is even 1:1. Though the training may not be up to the mark and the COs may be incompetent or whatever, there is really no point in dissing them because the real problem lies elsewhere.
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abhik wrote: But then how many times have you heard of IA patrols being ambushed by terrorists/insurgents in their 100's. The job that the Paramilitary are doing is quite possibly much more difficult and larger than IA in J&K with a fraction of the resources available to IA. Its quite apparent that the counter naxal forces are getting out gunned and out numbered. in J&K the ratio of the number of terrorists to security personal is > 1:100, Its hard to think that the force ratio here in the operational areas is even 1:1. Though the training may not be up to the mark and the COs may be incompetent or whatever, there is really no point in dissing them because the real problem lies elsewhere.
Abhik,

Would sending more forces to fight crimson pigs help at all if they keep walking into traps? What we have on our hands is a Vietnam war like situation,just that we are fighting this war within our borders.Atleast in Vietnam,US inflicted heavy casualties to Vietcong and its supporters.

A couple of years back, i was watching a news footage of 'special force' being put together to fight Naxals. This 'special' force had young confused looking chaps training with 303s and that's the tragedy.We are just increasing the number of canon fodder with no plan and we are hoping that with some miracle we can defeat the maoists. Human and electronic intelligence,state of the art surveillance equipment and operations that are planned based on worst case scenarios can go a long way in helping us fight this menace.

I don't expect any miracles when most of the decision makers and rich fat cats sit and operate out of big cities.Hence a 26/11 is national tragedy for years and battalion after battalion of CRPF/State police forces being massacred in hundreds is just page 6 news.
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Well area domination is the key. And thats possible only with men on the ground. You need to stop them from assembling and moving around in their hundreds. The way these incidents keep happening Im really not convinced adequate resources(men and material) have been deployed.
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abhik wrote:
Gaur wrote:^^
abhijitm,
I am only an Armchair General, so please do not ask me about tactics. I will only disappoint. But it is worth noting that IA patrols never suffered these kind of casualties even during the height of insurgency. How many times have you heard an IA patrol being ambushed in such a way? So, one would assume that something is very wrong in the way the patrols are planned and carried out. Hopefully, this would be remedied after sufficient no of soldiers get trained by IA. Also, as many other posters have voiced, I am too of the opinion that while IA should not be ordered to carry out anti naxalite operations, it would be infinitely helpful if IA is allowed to raise an anti-naxalite para military force whose soldiers should be selected from CPOs.
But then how many times have you heard of IA patrols being ambushed by terrorists/insurgents in their 100's. The job that the Paramilitary are doing is quite possibly much more difficult and larger than IA in J&K with a fraction of the resources available to IA. Its quite apparent that the counter naxal forces are getting out gunned and out numbered. in J&K the ratio of the number of terrorists to security personal is > 1:100, Its hard to think that the force ratio here in the operational areas is even 1:1. Though the training may not be up to the mark and the COs may be incompetent or whatever, there is really no point in dissing them because the real problem lies elsewhere.
Perhaps not in J&K, but the numbers of insurgents in NE were no less at the height of insurgency there. And even in J&K, the terrorists are trained and equipped by PAK army. So, while there is no doubt that the Naxal situation faced by CPOs is dire, but to say that what IA faced in J&K and NE was any less challenging is a very wrong statement to say the least. As Ambar rightly pointed out, numbers would serve little if the patrols would just keep walking into ambushes.
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I think the Home Guards need to be trained and roped in for riot control under local police command. CRPF should be made an exclusive CI and CT security force. The recommendations of GOM post Kargil on one force-one function seems to be getting a boot nowadays due to the red menace.

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KiranM wrote:I think the Home Guards need to be trained and roped in for riot control under local police command. CRPF should be made an exclusive CI and CT security force. The recommendations of GOM post Kargil on one force-one function seems to be getting a boot nowadays due to the red menace.

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Interesting notion to operationalize the Home Guards for riot control, however I don't think it is wise since the Home Guard is a force made up of citizens who want to contribute to the society on an ad-hoc basis. They are one tier closer to the ordinary citizen in contrast to the other CPO organizations (excluding Civil Defense), and therefore they should continue to focus more on calamities and such.

In my opinion the CRPF's Rapid Action Force should be the dedicated riot control force since it seems that it is their primary role and, to continue a consistent durable policy towards maintaining their status-quo as anti-riot force, it can be a means to increase its effectiveness as a anti-riot force.

The CRPF should be split up between the RAF and an COIN-force that is dedicated to the neutralization of terrorists, and insurgents. For example the COBRA and the constables who are fighting in J&K, can fall within that dedicated COIN-force, and the 'ordinary' CRPF constable with a rifle/lathi can fall under the RAF.
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Aditya Watts wrote:Interesting notion to operationalize the Home Guards for riot control, however I don't think it is wise since the Home Guard is a force made up of citizens who want to contribute to the society on an ad-hoc basis.
+1 to this. Home Guards just cannot be utilised for riot control. These people are supposed to be volunteers who assist the regular police force. They are given the most basic training, and this does not involve the lathi drill or riot control. In some states the force consists of middle-aged men, who may be ex-service men or ex-policemen. In some states it is like more of 'daily wage' worker group. We cannot expect this force to be a riot police unit. At best they can be community police officers, traffic wardens etc.
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BDR Trying to Encroach on Indian Land: BSF
There have been numerous occasions during the last six months when BDR fired at Indian nationals to prevent them from cultivating their land. BDR has been trying to encroach on Indian territory following such firing," a BSF statement said here.
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http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2 ... 845&ref=mf

Another jawan martyred due to ceasefire violation. Hope they gave back a fitting reply to them!

RIP, jawan!
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4 ceasefire violations, two Indian jawans killed in 24 hours
Jammu: At the Line of Control (LoC) in Akhnoor, the guns have fallen silent. Nobody is sure if this is a temporary reprieve. All of Tuesday, there was heavy exchange of fire between India's Border Security Force (BSF) and the Pakistani rangers. It finally ended early this morning.

One of the bullets shot from across the border hit Roop Singh. At the hospital where he is recovering, there is a sense of shock. "The situation is very bad here; people are in their houses and not coming out," says his father, Gajjar Singh.

This is the fourth ceasefire violation in the last two days.

Two Indian jawans have been killed in the last 24 hours; the BSF headquarters in Jammu have seen two wreath-laying ceremonies for the lives lost.

"Yesterday's incident was a bigger one, one BSF jawan was killed in the morning and another in the evening when he was checking the fence, this was followed by firing from Pakistan, the Border Security Force also retaliated," says senior officer PPS Sidhu.
Is the BSF NAPUNSAK? CAN'T they REPLY by KILLING these terroristic Barbarians? If they kill 2 BSF should kill 20, FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE, the hell with the PEACE AGREEMENT!!!! Time to show them once and for all, either IOK or POK...
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Craig Alpert wrote:4 ceasefire violations, two Indian jawans killed in 24 hours
Jammu: At the Line of Control (LoC) in Akhnoor, the guns have fallen silent. Nobody is sure if this is a temporary reprieve. All of Tuesday, there was heavy exchange of fire between India's Border Security Force (BSF) and the Pakistani rangers. It finally ended early this morning.

One of the bullets shot from across the border hit Roop Singh. At the hospital where he is recovering, there is a sense of shock. "The situation is very bad here; people are in their houses and not coming out," says his father, Gajjar Singh.

This is the fourth ceasefire violation in the last two days.

Two Indian jawans have been killed in the last 24 hours; the BSF headquarters in Jammu have seen two wreath-laying ceremonies for the lives lost.

"Yesterday's incident was a bigger one, one BSF jawan was killed in the morning and another in the evening when he was checking the fence, this was followed by firing from Pakistan, the Border Security Force also retaliated," says senior officer PPS Sidhu.
Is the BSF NAPUNSAK? CAN'T they REPLY by KILLING these terroristic Barbarians? If they kill 2 BSF should kill 20, FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE, the hell with the PEACE AGREEMENT!!!! Time to show them once and for all, either IOK or POK...
Agreed, these violations are nothing more than an act of war. Too bad there is whole political agenda around it that prevents to just simply retaliate with full force.
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IAF choppers to offer logistic support
Raipur, July 6
The Indian Air Force will deploy helicopters in Maoist-hit states, especially in Chhattisgarh, to combat rising red terror. But it won’t be a free for all like ‘Rambo’ that will go and fire at Maoist camps and locations in lush green hilly terrain of the ‘Red Corridor’.

Union Home Secretary Gopal K Pillai here this afternoon said the Cabinet has cleared the plan to deploy IAF helicopters in inhospitable Naxal-dominated areas for quick response to reinforcements of paramilitary forces and rescue missions. New Delhi has come around to make use of IAF helicopters as successive deadly Maoist ambush and massacre of the CRPF men this year has shown that there was long delay in sending reinforcements and organising rescue missions. Also, graduation of Maoists from guerrilla tactical operations to military warfare capability is disturbing the Central government. At present, the state police and the paramilitary forces are using BSF helicopters stationed at Raipur and Ranchi. The BSF fleet consists of three to four Dhruv Advance Light Helicopters and two Mi-17 choppers.

“The IAF helicopters will be used only for logistic movements and they will not be available for any offensive operation,” Pillai said while talking to the media in the state guesthouse.

However, when contacted in New Delhi, a senior IAF officer told The Tribune that their chief is on record that he is totally against the use of armed forces in internal situations “as we are meant to defend threats from across the border.”

Some years ago, the IAF had deployed a helicopter to survey the lush green and hilly terrain and identify Maoist locations in Naxal-held Abhujmar in the Bastar region. Maoist had opened fire at the helicopter and killed a personal. After that, the IAF had withdrawn itself from anti-Naxal operations.SOUND FAMILIAR?? LIKE THE KARGIL SITUATION??? The IAF officer from New Delhi told this correspondent that “we have made it clear that we will not carry out any Rambo-style operations against Maoists.” But he agreed that logistic and rescue missions would surely require the IAF to protect its personnel and platforms and suppress the fire coming on to them.
Furthermore.....
Gang supplying arms to Maoists busted

Jamshedpur: On the eve of the 48-hour ‘Bharat Bandh’ call by Maoists, the police claimed to have busted an arms supply racket with the arrest of nine persons from in and around the township and seized a large cache of weapons and ammunition. Thirteen pieces of 7.65 mm pistols, 13 magazines, a revolver of six rounds, 443 assorted cartridges, including 36 of AK-47 and 31 of INSAS, were seized from the arrested men, Senior Superintendent of Police Navin Kumar Singh said. Three motorcycles, nine cell phones and Rs 2.30 lakh in cash was also recovered from them, Singh said. — PTI
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Craig Alpert wrote:CAN'T they REPLY by KILLING these terroristic Barbarians?
Retaliatory firing
Firing was effectively retaliated by the BSF, which also used mortars. Reports said a number of Pakistan Rangers were injured in retaliatory firing by the BSF. However, the BSF didn’t target civilian areas of Pakistan. Exchange of firing between the two sides continued till 7 am.

The Rangers were more frustrated after re-alignment of border fencing right at the IB which has been helping the BSF to keep a vigil on movement of the militants in launching pads close to pickets of the Pakistani troops. Sources said the Pakistan firing was aimed at keeping the BSF inside the pickets to push infiltrators into this side.
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Thanks...

Still wish, instead of injuring those SOB's they end up KILLING them..
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BSF seizes 31 kg of heroin
In a major recovery, a Border Security Force (BSF) squad, deputed in the Ajnala sector bordering Pakistan, today seized 31 kg of heroin near Chhana Pattan village.

The heroin stock, believed to be worth over Rs 155 crore in the international market, was hidden on the bank of the Ravi that flows along the border of India and Pakistan.

Though the EX-131 BN/C and 65 BN squads, with the help of the boat force on both sides of the river, managed to foil the transaction of the consignment towards this side of the border, no arrest could be made in this connection.

The DIG, BSF, Mohammad Aquil, confirmed that the miscreants could not cross the border fencing and apparently had turned back towards Pakistan.

“This is the biggest consignment seized after four years in this belt. Some mysterious activities were observed during the wee hours today along the banks of the Ravi, but it was only at about 6 am that this illegal consignment was spotted by the BSF battalion,” he said.


The contraband, put in envelopes bearing Pakistan addresses, was found to be wrapped in clothes. Officials said that as many as 18 packets containing the contraband were wrapped in a kurta and 13 other packets in a lungi-like cloth.

“The envelopes that contained four packets each bore names such as “Moin Plastic Store, Lahore” and “Md Movement Area 555 and 888”, said Company Commandant, BSF, Sukhwinder Singh, who led the squad on today’s vigil.

“Punjab has emerged as a major transit point for these illegal activities carried out from the other side of the border through Afghanistan and the 550-km barbed-wire fenced border between India and Pakistan. We also enhanced our vigilance, terming it as Operation Sukha.

Meanwhile, the BSF also honoured the BSF Assistant Commandant, S Bor Singh, Havildar BS Rathore and Hawildar HB Chhatri for their attentiveness during the search operation.
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CRPF to train in guerrilla warfare

Impressed with the rigour, and keen to orient their men to Bastar's conditions before deploying them on the field, other paramilitary forces like BSF, ITBP and SSB sent entire battalions for training to Ponwar. "More than 2,300 paramilitary men trained this year. Not a single man died on the field," says Brigadier Ponwar.

Spice, tea packets yield Naxals’ ammo
“All total 32 such packets containing the ammunitions were found scattered at the attack site”, the police officer said requesting anonymity. “Some packets found at the spot were still sealed, while a few others were partially filled with cartridges”, he revealed.
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For CRPF, it’s mission blackboard
- Troops take classes, prepare meals at Bundu school in rebel zone
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1100711/j ... 648260.jsp
Before the CRPF camp, only 40 students turned up everyday for classes. The number has shot up to more than 225. The school had been languishing due to paucity of staff, both teaching and non-teaching. Now, the CRPF cook prepares the midday meal every afternoon on time. This apart, CRPF personnel have proved better teachers with their up-to-date knowledge and enthusiasm. Endorsing this, school headmaster Shivshankar Mahto said: “CRPF camp has given a new lease of life to the dying school.”
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Though the EX-131 BN/C and 65 BN squads, with the help of the boat force on both sides of the river, managed to foil the transaction of the consignment towards this side of the border, no arrest could be made in this connection.
I didn't understand the bolded part. Can someone please educate me?
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Drunk CRPF cop kills 6 colleagues in Jharkhand
The constable Harpinder Singh of 196 battalion of CRPF, who was on sentry duty at a CRPF camp, started indiscriminately firing at his colleagues at 10 pm last night, a senior CRPF officer said on Saturday.

Six of his colleagues, including Assistant Commandant Bisahu Singh, were killed in the firing that lasted for four hours. As Harpinder Singh continued to fire, CRPF personnel at the camp shot him dead at 0200 hours, the officer said. An inquiry has been ordered into the incident.
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JCO, Jawan Injured as Poonch Operation Enters 6th Day
"It is one of the longest running gun battles between the army and terrorists," the officer said, adding that the efforts are on to eliminate the militants.
Intersteing, how a bunch of well trained/determined terrorists can hold up an equally well trained/determined (may be more) soldiers who outnumber the TFTA's... Using the terrain to their advantage, it seems their strategy is to tire out both the hunter and the hunted, while hoping someone runs out of ammunition first! However the Army definitely has an upper hand, as they can rotate, and re-arm, the TFTA's well they are either dead, or are planning their escape!!! Hope they kill these scumbags and send them to their 72 virgins!
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Encounter between Maoists and security forces in Jharkhand
RANCHI: A fierce encounter took place on Sunday night between security forces and Maoists in forests bordering Khunti district, police said.

The encounter has been going on for the last several hours but the details are yet to be received, police said in Ranchi.

The forces from the state police, CRPF and the anti-Naxal Jaguar Force have been in action against Maoists in the forests near Bundu, about 40 km from Ranchi.

Kundan Pahan, accused of masterminding the beheading of special branch officer Francis Induwar in October last year, has lead the proscribed CPI (Maoist) in Khunti.

Meanwhile, DGP control room ASI, R C Ram said the control room has no such information that the security forces have busted a Naxal camp during the encounter
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Nightwatch, 26 July 2010
India: For the record. The Indian Finance Ministry on 26 July approved a restructuring plan for the Indo-Tibetan Border Police (ITBP), the Press Trust of India reported. Home Affairs Minister P. Chidambaram said the modernization plan, which was proposed by the Home Ministry in 2009, gives the ITBP 15 new battalions, three recruit training centers, a counterinsurgency and jungle warfare school, a high-altitude medical training center and additional materiel. The plan also allows ITBP to recruit additional support staff, ITBP chief R. K. Bhatia said. ITBP plans to conduct more short-range patrols along the borders, unnamed sources said.


Comment: The Indo-Tibetan Border Police (ITBP) is a paramilitary force established on 24 October 1962 for providing security along India's border with Chinese-occupied Tibet. It has more than 60,000 policemen in 55 battalions which areresponsible for 2,115 kilometers of border in the Himalayas. The expansion should take it to about 75,000 personnel, about 10,000 fewer than the Sashastra Seema Bal (SSB), which guards the mountain borders with Nepal and Bhutan. These two are the largest police forces, specializing in mountain police and combat duties.

The ITBP and the SSB are components of the more than half-million strong Central Paramilitary Forces which would come directly under the command of the Indian Armed Forces in wartime.

From time to time, Indian media will report piecemeal about upgrades to various forces along the China border. There are three kinds: Indian armed forces, Central Police Organizations and Central Paramilitary Forces, of which the ITBP is one of the most elite units.

The significance of today's report is that it reinforces that all forces along the China border from Kashmir to Burma are being upgraded. Upgrades to Indian Army units were featured items in Indian reporting last summer.

NightWatch uses as a predictive hypothesis that India expects to confront China in less than two decades. In some scenarios, this confrontation is part of a two front war with Pakistan, according to Indian strategists. Several years ago the Singh government ordered the start of long term preparations for a showdown.
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The SSB, SFF and ITBP do they have light arty? And are they MANPAD trained? Would be useful skills to have if they are the scondary line of defence.
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SFF is MANPAD trained. SSB I really really doubt it. ITBP I dunno.
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The road to Jagargunda
For the CRPF in Dantewada, deployment has become an end in itself.

http://www.hindu.com/2010/07/29/stories ... 661100.htm
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Ramana
The ITBP is a classic CPO like the CRPF. The SSB and BSF have historically had a very different orientation.

Most Army types I have spoken with rate the ITBP slightly higher than most state armed police establishments in both training and morale (high altitude training aside), which is to say rather poorly. There is definitely much higher regard for the BSF.
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rohitvats wrote:ITBP comes closest to IA in terms of training.....they man some of the toughest terrains in the world and do a commendable job. Along the LAC, more often that not, it is the ITBP post which is the last post before the LAC....they man the LAC shoulder to shoulder with IA.
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CPM tracker cells pinpoint Maoists
Cadres set up 50 listening posts
The “pinpoint” information that helped the joint forces bust a Maoist camp yesterday has shed light on the existence of a string of listening posts set up by CPM cadres in rebel-dominated areas of West Midnapore. ...
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1100728/j ... 739894.jsp
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Abhishek
Rohit is correct that they are the ITBP is the first line of defence on the LAC and man the frontier shoulder to shoulder with the Army. However, there are areas of serious concern best left for offline.
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