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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby Shrinivasan » 28 Jun 2011 12:12

Craig Alpert wrote:BSF repels massive Maoists attack in Chhattisgarh
NICE. God Speed BSF!

New leadership, better training and equipment is starting to pay-off. I think BSF has better intelligence... use of UAVs etc have also helped. Another thing is better communication equipment...
I think it is high time we blow up the maoist companies enmass, publicly flog them in cities across India to show the common man, who these scum are, displaying their gear along with where it is coming from...
They should also make videos of their hideouts and expose it through media.

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Good news for Exservicemen Govt keen to resettle ex-servicem

Postby jagbani » 28 Jun 2011 13:48

Good news for Ex-servicemen
New Delhi, June 27
With more than 50,000 officers and men in military service hanging up their boots every year, the government is “seriously” looking at the option of providing employment to ex-servicemen in central paramilitary forces.
Defence Minister AK Antony emerging from a meeting of the Kendriya Sainik Board told reporters that one of the suggestions was to find more opportunities for ex-servicemen in the paramilitary forces. “The government will discuss this issue seriously and already some discussions are going on,” Antony said.
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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby Gaur » 28 Jun 2011 13:53

^^
The Paramilitary Forces come under Home Ministry. So I don't see what role MOD can play in this issue.

Edit: Oh..it seems I misunderstood the news report before. They are looking to employ ex-servicemen in CPOs? Thats a very good move IMO.
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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby ASPuar » 28 Jun 2011 14:56

This is one of the greatest stupidities ever. CPO's would greatly benefit from receipt of trained released military manpower. Dunno why they arent taking them.

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby Shrinivasan » 29 Jun 2011 01:31

ASPuar wrote:This is one of the greatest stupidities ever. CPO's would greatly benefit from receipt of trained released military manpower. Dunno why they arent taking them.

I think, this is precisely what they are planning to do, utilize retired army personnel (your "trained release military manpower") as CPOs. Kya Thakleef hai?

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby ASPuar » 29 Jun 2011 01:43

Armed forces have been requesting for it for a very long time (on the order of three decades). It has consistently been turned down by MHA. Even now, you will note, that this is not a proposal, merely a speech by RM. Lets hope MHA does not simply dispose, if and when this musing turns into a real proposal, and not just something said by a politician at an ex servicemens rally.

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probe ordered into treatment of martyr's bodies

Postby jagbani » 01 Jul 2011 20:57

Bastar, June 30 (ANI): District magistrate of Dantewada on Wednesday ordered probe into the shabby treatment of bodies of two policemen, martyred in a recent maoist attack, which were taken in a garbage-carrying vehicle to their native places.

Really shame on govt. check out the discussion with truck driver what they use to carry in truck

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby VinodTK » 06 Jul 2011 05:10

ITBP wants air support to patrol India-China border
We need three choppers to patrol along India-China border. A request has been sent to ministry of home affairs," ITBP DIG Ladakh sector Jaspal Singh told PTI.

He said the choppers can be deployed to act as air ambulance, sending reinforcements and evacuating troops suffering from high altitude illness.

ITBP guards 4,057km India-China border at Jammu and Kashmir, Arunachal Pradesh and Sikkim with its posts at some points being at a height of about 18,000 feet.

ITBP personnel man border posts at altitudes ranging from 9,000 to 18,000 feet. Most of the forward posts remain cut off by road during winter months.

The border posts are exposed to the fury and violence of the nature like snow blizzards, avalanches, landslides, besides the hazards of high altitude and extreme cold where temperature normally remains below minus 40 degrees Celsius.

"Many of our men fall sick due to high altitude. The choppers will help us in ferrying them," another ITBP official said.


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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby wig » 17 Jul 2011 13:03

Paramilitary forces get 67,500 new AK 47 rifles , 15,000 guns, 32,500 pistols from Europe on anvil
The Central Armed Police Forces (CAPFs) under the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) are re-arming in a big to meet the emerging internal security challenges emanating from various quarters.

The induction of 67,500 AK 47 rifles, which were ordered by the MHA in September, 2010, is now complete. Though this number is sufficient to equip 67 battalions, these expected to be distributed to some select units and specialist companies in all CAPFs that are actively engaged in counter-terrorist operations and combating left-wing extremism and Naxalites.

The CAPFs comprise among others, the Central Reserve Police Force, Indo-Tibetan Border Police Force, Border Security Force, Central Industrial Security force and the Seema Suraksha Bal. These were earlier commonly referred to as paramilitary forces.

Also on the anvil are about 48,000 modern assault rifles, sub-machineguns and pistols manufactured in Switzerland, Austria and Germany, that will beef up the firepower and combat potential of these forces.

According to available information, the MHA has sanctioned Rs 290 crore for the purchase of these weapons and their ammunition. Some of the types of weapons so being procured are already in service with the CAPFs.

The European weapons being procured include 2,800 Swiss SIG-551, SIG-553 and SIG-556 assault rifles, 700 SIG pistols, 44,500 Glock-17, Glock-19 and Glock-26 pistols from Austria and 12,756 MP-5 sub-machineguns from Germany. Some of the pistols are small and easily concealable under civilian clothes. All the aforementioned weapons are widely used by the special forces and specialist police units the world over for different missions and roles, including VIP protection.

In addition, 385 multi-grenade launchers and ammunition are being procured for the CRPF, the ITBP and the BSF units deployed in the left-wing affected areas. The estimated cost of these weapons is Rs 18 crore. Various types of bullet-proof and mine-protected vehicles, safety equipment and other paraphernalia for counter-terrorist and anti-naxal operations is also being inducted. A number of battalions from the CRPF, BSF and ITBP are actively deployed in such duties.

Induction of contemporary generation weapons notwithstanding, bulk of the over 1.5 million strong CAPFs continue to be equipped with the older generation 7.62 mm self-loading rifle of Belgian origin, the indigenous 5.56 mm INSAS, 9mm Browning pistol and the 9 mm Sterling carbine.


http://www.tribuneindia.com/2011/20110717/nation.htm#8

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby VinodTK » 22 Jul 2011 07:21

AR pitches for Indo-Sino border watch No common meeting point between Defence Ministry and Home Ministry
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According to sources in Indian Army, the Assam Rifles has the solid backing of the Defence Ministry and is most suitable for defending the 1,643 long km border that North Eastern region of India including Manipur share with Myanmar.

Indian Army has opined that in the light of a large number of insurgent groups operating from just across the border and strategic installations by China along the border with India, it would be more appropriate to deploy Assam Rifles, which has long years of working in border areas of North East region, rather than ITBF, Army has opined.
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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby Shrinivasan » 22 Jul 2011 10:56

VinodTK wrote:According to sources in Indian Army, the Assam Rifles has the solid backing of the Defence Ministry and is most suitable for defending the 1,643 long km border that North Eastern region of India including Manipur share with Myanmar.
This turf war between MOD and MHA is becoming a serious distraction. I am tending to an opinion that this is just posturing and there isn't any acrimony as made out in the press. all Chankian onlee. I sincerely hope so.

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby ParGha » 22 Jul 2011 15:42

wig wrote:Paramilitary forces get 67,500 new AK 47 rifles , 15,000 guns, 32,500 pistols from Europe on anvil
The European weapons being procured include 2,800 Swiss SIG-551, SIG-553 and SIG-556 assault rifles, 700 SIG pistols, 44,500 Glock-17, Glock-19 and Glock-26 pistols from Austria and 12,756 MP-5 sub-machineguns from Germany. Some of the pistols are small and easily concealable under civilian clothes. All the aforementioned weapons are widely used by the special forces and specialist police units the world over for different missions and roles, including VIP protection.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2011/20110717/nation.htm#8


What do the 700 SIG pistols offer that the 44,500 Glocks don't? Don't get me wrong, SIGs are very good pistols... but one must keep in mind the logistics and interoperability, and also try to leverage the massive size of the orders with the possiblity of local licensed production. Glock is very much against production in other countries, but the prospect of an assured order of 55K pistols and SMGs (which they have designs for, but don't produce) may just about persuade them...

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby Shrinivasan » 22 Jul 2011 20:09

ParGha wrote:700 SIG pistols, from Austria
What do the 700 SIG pistols offer that the 44,500 Glocks don't? Don't get me wrong, SIGs are very good pistols... but one must keep in mind the logistics and interoperability

These SIG pistols might for some Special Team within the CMPF. Say the COBRA Commandos..

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby nachiket » 23 Jul 2011 00:02

Shrinivasan wrote:
ParGha wrote:700 SIG pistols, from Austria
What do the 700 SIG pistols offer that the 44,500 Glocks don't? Don't get me wrong, SIGs are very good pistols... but one must keep in mind the logistics and interoperability

These SIG pistols might for some Special Team within the CMPF. Say the COBRA Commandos..

The question remains, what would a P228/229 provide that a Glock 17/19 can't?

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby Gaur » 25 Jul 2011 01:29

Assam Rifles lecture for pupils
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 339541.cms
IMPHAL: Personnel of 43 Assam Rifles of the Army's Red Shield Division organized a motivational lecture for students of Saikul village in the tribal-dominated Senapati district. The lecture was organized with support from Kuki Students' Organization (KSO), which helped the forces to gather interested students.

The lecture covered topics related to Indian Army, ways of joining the armed forces and also advantages of being a soldier of the 'elite Indian Army', a defence statement said. Altogether, 56 students attended the lecture and returned motivated towards joining the armed forces, the statement said, adding that the lecture broadened the horizon of the students and gave an insight into the armed forces for the young aspirants.

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby aniket » 01 Aug 2011 20:14

Does the IG of CRPF get security ?

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby Vipul » 12 Aug 2011 23:50

National Cadet Corps set for a revamp.

The National Cadet Corps (NCC) is all set for a revamp. The NCC will revise its curriculum to do away with irrelevant aspects and introduce subjects that would prove a shot in the arm for students of rural areas, Director General Lt Gen P S Bhalla announced on Thursday. Further, it would also expand its capacity by recruiting two lakh students over the next five years, with a special focus on regions plagued by Naxalite insurgency. “Around 80 per cent of the NCC’s current curriculum comprises military subjects. Some of them have lost their relevance. So the idea is to replace these with computer studies and other subjects that could give more exposure to students from rural areas,” said Lt Gen Bhalla, The new curriculum would be finalised by March 2012 and rolled out subsequently, he added.

About plans to expand its operations, the National Cadet Corps Director General said that capacity would be increased from the present 13 lakh to 15 lakh students. While half of these students would be from rural areas, the other half would focus on those from the North East, Jammu & Kashmir and districts hit by Naxalite insurgency. He added that the purpose of the move was to wean the youth of these regions away from anti-national sentiments and to equip them with skill sets.

According to the senior officer, at present, only four percent of all eligible candidates were being recruited as it would not be possible to handle more recruits.

Lt General Bhalla said that though compulsory recruitment was desirable since it would create a sense of patriotism and discipline among the youth, it was not possible under the current circumstances.

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby wig » 22 Aug 2011 10:10

the CRPF has raised an initial unit of about 40 snipers equipped with the SSG 69
The CRPF, which is undertaking anti-Naxal operations in the country, has trained and deployed an elite squad of snipers for the first time, adding a lethal punch to the force. The first unit of less than 40 marksmen will be part of the world's largest paramilitary, which has close to three lakh personnel.

The force, which has deployed almost 60,000 personnel for counter-Naxal operations, has trained handpicked commandos to be deployed in the special tasks units of the CoBRA.

"The snipers will act as the main assault weapon and cover for a raid unit which is on foot. Some of the best forces in the world undertaking jungle warfare tasks deploy snipers for operational success," a top security officer deployed in the naxal grid of Chhattisgarh and Orissa said.

The marksmen have been trained on the SSG-69 sniper weapon and have been deployed alongside the Commando Battalion for Resolute Action (CoBRA), which undertake specific and special operations in Naxal terrain.

The snipers take the hide of a suitable geographical feature in the jungles and can aim for more than the usual range covered by the standard weapons of the personnel.

The snipers provide an edge to the force as they can aim the target without going close to it, the officer said. This is the first time that a security force has deployed snipers for anti-Naxal operations in the country. According to sources, these measures have been taken at the behest of CRPF chief K Vijay Kumar who is known for his earlier stint as the Tamil Nadu Special Task Force (STF) commander which eliminated forest brigand Veerappan.

The snipers have been trained at the Central Reserve Police Force training facility in Coimbatore and have undertaken a special course in reading jungle terrain maps and operating global positioning devices.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2011/20110822/main5.htm

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby wig » 31 Aug 2011 08:55

ITBP forms water wing to man Pangong lake in Leh
Indo-Tibetan Border Police, deployed along the country’s border with China, today announced formation of its water wing to man lakes, rivers and hot springs in the Himalayan region.

The water wing will help the border force to man the Pangong lake, whose one-third portion is in north of Ladakh, Indus River and some of the hot springs and rivers in northeast.

This was announced by Director General of ITBP R K Bhatia, who retires tomorrow. He had initiated the process of setting a separate water wing to man the boundary with China.


http://www.dailyexcelsior.com/

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Postby Aditya G » 31 Aug 2011 23:42

Quoting from above:

The newly-formed water wing will have strength of a little over 100 personnel led by a Commandant. It will be equipped with mechanised and inflatable boats which will help the force maintain round-the-clock vigil of water bodies along the border and Line of Actual Control.

ITBP was so far dependent on the Army for manning the water bodies.

The force had earlier given sanction for setting up exclusive intelligence wing which will generate information along the crucial Sino-Indian frontier.


This is a noteworthy move - till now it was Army who was manning the lake.

Also, now ITBP adds a water wing after BSF, CRPF and CISF.


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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby ASPuar » 01 Sep 2011 10:58

The news report about IPS officers being sourced from CPOs is correct, but it is wrong where it says that Army officers are not permitted to compete in the exam. The PMO has this week ordered that Army officers are very much so going to be a part of the examination.

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby Pratyush » 02 Sep 2011 10:36

In a first, BSF deploys marine battalion in Arabian sea

The question that comes to my mind, if this is some thing that the BSF is going to do in a sustained manner. Then what is the role the coast guard required to play. Why not strengthen the coast guard so that it can take care of the business.

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Postby chackojoseph » 02 Sep 2011 11:36

^^^^ IN Chief was saying that CG and IN will withdraw once the paras will take up the position. So, normal case, coastal police, abnormal places like Sir Creek etc will be the paras, then CG and then IN. IMHO, CG boats will becoem bigger to mimic poor mans frigates and IN will be free once again.

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Postby VinodTK » 15 Sep 2011 07:45

India receiving South African designed mine-protected vehicles
On August 25 the Jharkhand police received the first of six MPV-Is on order. They are being manufactured by Defence Land Systems India (DLSI), a joint venture between Mahindra & Mahindra (74%) and BAE Systems (26%).

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Postby Airavat » 21 Sep 2011 06:21

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IG BSF Ashok Kumar Jain with injured civilian at District Hospital, Samba, in Jammu.

BSF DIG (Operations), Jammu Frontiers, JS Oberoi told the Excelsior that "hostile elements’’ from across the International Border (IB) opened firing on a BSF patrol party in forward area of Benglard in Samba sector at 4 pm. "It appeared that the militants fired at the BSF patrol as security personnel were engaged in clearing ‘sarkanda’ from the forward areas ahead of fencing, which was used by the infiltrators to sneak in. The militants take cover of grown up ‘sarkanda’ during infiltration and it was being cleaned by the security personnel to thwart the militant designs’’, they said, adding this appeared to be the apparent reason for the militants, backed by the Rangers, to resort to firing on the BSF jawans and civilians.

BSF sub inspector and civilian killed in Paki firing

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby jagbani » 03 Oct 2011 14:24

Pakistan rangers threaten to kill B.S.F soldiers.
Pakistan rangers on Amritsar border in a ceremony function use to show thumbs up side down to our bsf soldiers and threaten to kill them and still our bsf soldiers remains quite why..?
Here i read the news http://www.punjabkesari.in/punjab/fulls ... 04_149518-

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby sum » 03 Oct 2011 15:25

Well, that particular Paki gent would have been noted and someday, SDRE justice might be given to him....no point brawling in public and creating a == in front of all junta.
( of course, the entire dramabaazi of the Wagah ceremony itself isnt understood by me. IIRC, BRF suggestion of paan chewing peon should be sent to close the gate everyday)

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby Kashi » 03 Oct 2011 17:33

sum wrote:Well, that particular Paki gent would have been noted and someday, SDRE justice might be given to him....no point brawling in public and creating a == in front of all junta.
( of course, the entire dramabaazi of the Wagah ceremony itself isnt understood by me. IIRC, BRF suggestion of paan chewing peon should be sent to close the gate everyday)


I read somewhere that the whole glaring, snarling is a charade. The soldiers from two sides actually rehearse together.

It's become a big tourist draw and brings in a lot of money so the histrionics continue.

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby Shrinivasan » 04 Oct 2011 20:44

sum wrote:Well, that particular Paki gent would have been noted and someday, SDRE justice might be given to him....no point brawling in public and creating a == in front of all junta.
( of course, the entire dramabaazi of the Wagah ceremony itself isnt understood by me. IIRC, BRF suggestion of paan chewing peon should be sent to close the gate everyday)

I agree, this is becoming another major chest beating for the Baakis... If it is a major revenue earner, it should be STOPPED IMMEDIATELY, no point in giving Baakis a venue to make some quick buck at our expense.

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby jagbani » 05 Oct 2011 11:00

Once again our BSF soldiers done good work, Heroin worth Rs 75 crore seized at Indo-Pak border
http://www.punjabkesari.in/punjab/fulls ... 46_150100-

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby ASPuar » 05 Oct 2011 12:54

I thought the Wagah ceremony had been stopped already.

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Postby sum » 05 Oct 2011 13:31

^^ India had proposed and Pak had disposed ( to scrap the ceremony)...so, onwards it continues.

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby Shrinivasan » 07 Oct 2011 02:46

jagbani wrote:Once again our BSF soldiers done good work, Heroin worth Rs 75 crore seized at Indo-Pak border
http://www.punjabkesari.in/punjab/fulls ... 46_150100-
TOILet and other sources talk about 135Cr worth of Maal, also some fake currency etc. Sad that the pigs were able to go back to their pig-sty and not hallaled.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/BSF-seizes-heroin-worth-Rs135cr/articleshow/10261419.cms

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby ASPuar » 17 Oct 2011 10:54

X-posting from Army Thread:

Ministry of Home Affairs investigations reveal that allegations against Assam Rifles chief General Rameshwar Roy are fraud, and malafide, made by contractors whose attempts to manipulate contracts were thwarted by him.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Tbxx-M6Ex0Q/T ... 746458.jpg

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

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ASPuar wrote:http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Tbxx-M6Ex0Q/T ... 746458.jpg
Link not working.

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