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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby ramana » 18 May 2020 04:06

Something is not right about the article. He wants equipment similar to Army. And blames IPS. In his example of 1971 war, he doesn't mention Longewala.

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby manjgu » 18 May 2020 07:39

this is a bogus article... every force is tasked with a certain activity..BSF is for border security and is trained/equipped accordingly... so do u want BSF to have bofors, T 90 , AA guns etc? they are tasked with keeping the fence under observation, prevent drug smuggling etc. They did v well in CI ops in Kashmir and its Q ( intelligence) branch was v effective. I mean to expect BSF to fight like Army is really too much. Next u will ask Delhi Police to also get bofors !! hilarious. I can understand if the author had called for better training etc.

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby manjgu » 18 May 2020 07:46

would it be a good idea to embed/ rotate BSF units with IA infantry units??

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby Aditya_V » 18 May 2020 08:45

I do agree that the article goes overboard, but it is time the BSF gets rid of stuff firing pistol bullets like the Baretta sub machine guns, every Paki smuggler will have access to AK's etc. And better bunkers, night vision equipment, drones, ATGM's, Carl Gustafs, more 105mm , mortars, will keep Paki Rangers, PA from using BSF as soft target for cease fire violations and they should be networked well with the Army so a quick response to
a PA adventure in a BSF sector should be possible.

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby manjgu » 18 May 2020 09:24

BSF is along the IB...facing PAk Rangers .... else its PA vs IA ... i dont see in a peactime situation PA attacking BSF .... the issue is with IPS officers leading ... the less said the better about IPS where a posting in Agartala main city is considered a 'hardhsip posting' and they get a allowance for that.

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby sanjayc » 18 May 2020 10:30

ramana wrote:Something is not right about the article. He wants equipment similar to Army. And blames IPS. In his example of 1971 war, he doesn't mention Longewala.


The writeup is bogus and the author is a jhola-wala. See his previous articles.

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby srin » 18 May 2020 11:53

The real question is - does BSF have wartime duties to engage TSPA ? If yes (and as per wiki, it does), then how well is it capable of doing it (not just the equipment but also the training) ? The author is saying it isn't trained. I'll take that up at face value (not knowing the motivations behind the article).

So, either the mandate is changed or the training is changed - but something needs to change.

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby Bala Vignesh » 18 May 2020 19:43

The BSF website also states the same, quoting it verbatim, "The BSF raised in 1965 with the specific purpose of manning the Indian border as the 'First Line of Defence' against infiltration, smuggling and military assault, can hardly be said to comprise an enviable job."

Given this, I do not think the author is off his mark here, his intentions not withstanding.

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby Vips » 13 Aug 2020 01:35

Ammunition Factory Khadki in Pune sends first consignment of 40 mm UBGL ammunition to BSF

The Khadki Ammunition Factory in Maharashtra's Pune has sent the first consignment of 40 mm UBGL ammunition to the Border Security Force, the Ministry of Defence said on Wednesday.

This ammunition is fired from a launcher fitted under the barrel of 5.56 mm Rifle (INSAS).

"Inspired by the Prime Minister’s clarion call for an Atmanirbhar Bharat, Ammunition Factory Khadki, Pune, wrote a new chapter on self-reliance and indigenization of 40 mm UBGL Ammunition production on 11 August 2020 by sending the first consignment to Border Security Force," the ministry said in a press release.

40 mm UBGL ammunition is designed and manufactured by Ammunition factory, Khadki with the components sourced from Indian Industries. It has various advantages over traditional hand grenade, including its lightweight and 400-metre range against the 30 metres of hand grenade.

It can be fired by the same equipment (INSAS) held by the soldier and is also safe for the personnel.

There are four varieties of this ammunition: 40 mm UBGL (Practice), 40 mm UBGL (HEAP), 40 mm UBGL (HEDP) and 40 mm UBGL (RP).

This ammunition is imported by Army and Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) units and there was a perceived need to indigenise its design and manufacture, the Defence Ministry said.

MK Mohapatra, Sr General Manager, Ammunition Factory, Khadki had handed over the Inspection Note of the 40 mm UBGL (Practice) manufactured at AFK to BSF DIG Ashok Kumar Jha on August 4.

Hari Mohan, DGOF & Chairman, Ordnance Factory Board and MK Mohapatra, Sr GM Ammunition Factory, Khadki flagged off the First Consignment of 40 mm UBGL (Practice) to BSF in the presence of senior officers of OFB, AFK and Members of JCM, Works Committee and Unions & Associations on August 11.

With this event, Ammunition Factory Khadki joined the national endeavour to make India self-reliant in direction of defence production and save valuable foreign exchanges by way of import substitution, the ministry said.

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby ramana » 13 Aug 2020 08:55

Awesome
I thought Trichy was making this ammo.

Was wrong

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby Vips » 23 Aug 2020 19:49

BSF to undergo tech upgradation, to get 436 drones and new anti-drone systems.

With Rakesh Asthana taking over as full-time Director General of the Border Security Force (BSF), technological upgradation of the force has started with approval for 436 small and micro drones for border surveillance and anti-drone system being currently tested on India-Pakistan border to shoot down any drone carrying weapon-load for terrorists in Punjab, and Jammu and Kashmir.

Under the Comprehensive Integrated Border Management (CIBM) plan, all 1923 border outposts manned by BSF on Pakistan and Bangladesh border will be equipped with sensors, CCTV and drone feeds from the sector headquarters with as many as 1,500 posts (as rest are in remote locations) being able to fly drone to recce the border and use anti-drone system to shoot any weapon pay-load transportation from across.

According to senior Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) officials, while the cost of small and micro drone will come around Rs 88 crore, the BSF with the help of security agencies is currently testing an indigenous anti-drone system on the sensitive Punjab border with Pakistan. In the past one year, Pakistani deep state is using Chinese commercial drones to transport assault rifles, pistols and grenades to the Khalistani terrorists in Punjab as well as jihadis in Jammu and Kashmir.

By killing five Pakistani intruders carrying assault rifles and Afghan heroin on Friday morning, the new DG has made his intentions clear that the BSF will be pro-active on both the borders and will not allow any anti-India activity. It is understood that the BSF chief personally spoke to the company commander who carried out the successful operation in Taran Taran sector.

As Rakesh Asthana also holds the charge of DG, Narcotics Control Bureau (NCB), the G Branch or the intelligence branch of the BSF is also being revived so that Afghan drugs do not make their way across the Pakistan border or the Line of Control (LoC) in Jammu and Kashmir. In this context, a common strategy will be adopted between the BSF and NCB to bring big cross border drug kingpins to book as the narcotic trade funds the cross border weapons smuggling and terrorism both in Punjab and Jammu and Kashmir. In the past decade, India has not only become the hub of drug transhipment but also a major consumer of narcotics like heroin and cocaine from Afghanistan.

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby sum » 24 Aug 2020 05:55

Ummn, the article says Gbranch will be revived

Had it been scrapped? IIRC, it was a stellar performer in J&K!

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby pushkar.bhat » 06 Sep 2020 19:25

I believe that there three CAPF organizations are large enough for them to have their own dedicated Officer Corp (I will call it CAPS - Central Armed Police Service). This cadre should be different from the IPS and recruited via different board.

This mixing of IPS into every possible Home affairs role is a huge mess. IPS can go for short 2 year deputations to CAPF's in a liason role & vice-versa but all Command roles should be with the CAPS (Central Armed Police Services) Cadre.

Also all Intel & Analyis roles can have their own service with capablity to be posted across organizations as required.

If some extra-ordinary talent manifests itself in any of these service which can be better utilized elese where there can be a one-time non-reversible transfer.

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby Vips » 24 Oct 2020 20:58

47 new outposts, weapons upgrade, V-SAT systems: ITBP gets more teeth amid LAC row.

Indo-Tibetan Border Police (ITBP), deployed along with the Army on Indo-China border, has got a weapons upgrade, V-SAT systems for better border communication, better vehicles, apart from bullet resistant jackets and helmets for its personnel, as part of its modernisation, ITBP Director General S S Deswal said on Saturday on the occasion of its Raising Day.

Minister of state G Kishan Reddy, in his address at the Raising Day event, added that the home ministry had, under the guidance of Prime Minister
Narendra Modi and leadership of home minister Amit Shah, taken a slew of initiatives to empower the ITBP. This included grant of approval to ITBP
to establish 47 border outposts. This year alone, he said, 28 types of new vehicles had been provided to the force. He added that ITBP personnel in high-altitude areas had been given specialised clothing and mountaineering equipment.

“A budget of Rs 7,223 crore has been allocated for the ITBP and more than Rs 15 crore has been sanctioned for management,” ITBP broke myth that some countries have strong armies he said while praising the valour shown by ITBP men during the standoff with Chinese troops in Ladakh.

In his message to ITBP on its Raising Day, home minister Amit Shah tweeted: “The valour and courage of our ITBP personnel cannot be put in words. Their commitment to safeguard our motherland at world’s most difficult terrains is truly remarkable”.

Speaking earlier, Deswal said ITBP had sent a proposal regarding phase 2 of Indo-China border roads programme to the home ministry. Also, a high-level empowered committee was looking at another proposal for critical infrastructure — 18 foot tracks in Arunachal Pradesh — and the DG hoped construction of the same would start soon.

Deswal commended the ITBP jawans deployed in Ladakh for valiantly dealing with the recent border challenge, saying that he had honoured the personnel on the spot by visiting their border outposts, even as names of many personnel had been recommended for gallantry awards.

Raised on October 24, 1962 during India-China War, ITBP primarily guards the nation’s 3,488 kilometre long borders in the Himalayas at the BOPs located at altitudes ranging from 3,000 feet to 18,800 feet. The force is also deployed for anti-Maoist operations and other internal security duties.

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby Rakesh » 31 Jan 2021 21:16

https://twitter.com/SpadeX95/status/135 ... 68128?s=20 ---> Want to take a bath in ITBP Way?

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby Vips » 02 Feb 2021 03:23

Budget: Security forces guarding Pak, China receive more funds.

The central security forces guarding the India-Pakistan, Sino-Indian and other frontiers have received an increased amount of funds amidst continuous tension with India's western and northern neighbours.

Finance Minister Nirmala Sitharaman has allocated a total of Rs 1,03,802.52 crore to the Central Armed Police Forces like the Border Security Force, Central Reserve Police Force and Indo-Tibetan Border Police. The amount is an increase of 7.1 per cent from the last year when the forces got Rs 92,848.91 crore.

Rs 20,729.54 crore has been allocated to the BSF in 2021-22, in comparison to Rs 19,377.83 crore allocated in 2020-21 -- an increase of 6.97 per cent.

The BSF guards country's borders with Pakistan and Bangladesh. Infiltration of militants and cross border firing from Pakistan have been regular features along the 3,323 km-long frontier of which, barring the 740 km-long Line of Control, all are guarded by the BSF.

The 4,096 km-long Indo-Bangladesh border, guarded by the BSF, also sees illegal infiltration, smuggling of cows, contraband and other items.

The air wing of the BSF received Rs 140.15 crore in comparison to Rs 54.75 crore received last year -- an increase of 155 per cent.

The ITBP, which guards 3,488 km-long Sino-Indian border, received Rs 6,567.17 crore in comparison to Rs 6,150.15 crore received last year -- an increase of 6.78 per cent.

The CRPF, which is deployed for internal security, maintenance of law and order and anti-militants operations in Jammu and Kashmir, received Rs 26,197.90 crore in comparison to Rs 24,788.28 crore allocated in 2020-21 -- an increase of 5.6 per cent.

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Re: BSF, CRPF and other Paramilitary Forces Discussion

Postby sooraj » 02 Feb 2021 09:22

Demonstration of 3 Variants of Mob Control Vehicles Designed & Developed by
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at Parade Ground, CRPF Group Centre, Gurugram. Heavy category (7.5-ton); Medium category (2.5-ton) payload capacity & compact tractor-based vehicle

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