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ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby sum » 19 Nov 2015 13:19

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sum wrote:Were so many details about the ABM ship posted earlier?

Navy set to reveal the secret Radar ship by end of this year


Indian Navy all set to reveal the secret Radar ship specially designed to track long range ballistic missiles and air borne targets. The Project almost finished now and set to be floated into the sea by this fall. Indian Navy crews will run the ship while DRDO and some other scientists will operate the ship. Countries like US, Russia China already have such ships in their inventory which is a major part of the Ballistic missile interception program.

The ship was built by the Hindustan Shipyard limited in Visakhapatnam, The ships keel was laid on June 2014 as a project completion date set by December this year. Same like INS Arianth the Radar ship also monitored and funded by the Prime ministers office. The Ship will further boost India's anti ballistic missile shield, by providing exact information about the enemy missiles even at the longer range and higher altitude for mid course Interception.



The Ship houses two AESA radars, another set of telemetry scanners and associated systems. The Ship houses a large X Band AESA for long range target tracking and surveillance, Usually most of the X band AESA having range of more than 2000 kilometers for steady tracking. The reason behind adding the AESA in the ship is, it can be moved easily, due to earth's curvature, fixed land based Radar's lacks range and reliability. Since Ballistic missiles fly with the Earth's rotation to meet the target in short time.

The new X band AESA comes with state of art gallium nitrite technology, The GaN based T/R Modules requires less power to operate and highly reliable, optimized smaller in size and longer operational life. The 360 degree rotating heavy AESA is the Ships can provide clear information about incoming enemy threats even at longer range. The X band transmit and receive the data at the frequency level of 8.0 GHz to 12 GHz band.

Another is a S Band Radar, Which also provide search and tracking in another frequency range, Most nations uses the S Band to track very fast moving cruise missiles, and low flying sea skimmers. Most of the Missiles navigates very smart to escape from enemy Radar's. The S band AESA can track even those highly maneuvering missiles. Some of the Chinese cruise missiles has range of more than 1000 kilometers even they were nuke capable missiles. The latest Kolkata's MF STAR can track targets upto some 300 kilometers only.

Both S and X band can track all kind of airborne targets even flying at the range of some 2000 Kilometers. The ship also can provide target information's to the nearby ships about the incoming threats. The Ship can guide the land based PAD/AAD missiles to hit the ballistic missile targets at the mid course mostly if failed then terminal phase, Terminal passe can increase the interception probability of the missile if the mid course interception was failed.

The Ship possibly add one more Radar to find Low observable targets. It's reported that UHF radar's can able to track low observable targets like semi stealth fighter jets and stealth UAV's. However the UHF's Tracking range is some 500 kilometer or less. The DRDO's Radar ship can add the UHF for additional supports. However it's still not confirmed

Other systems like Telemetry scanners used for target acquisition and classification. which transmit and receive target information's from Tracking radar and classifies it into the mission computers. Like Fighter jets or Cruise missiles, Mostly telemetry used for spying purpose to receive information's from enemy activities. which gives communication supports to covert military agents for secure transmissions.


The Ship is something bigger. The actual length is some 175 meters and displacement of more than 10,000 tons as described by the ship designer Vik Sandvik. The ship also carry a Helicopter for support missions. However the ship will not carry any weapon systems onboard. Usually one or two EO based CIWS used for self defense. The Ship officially called as Missile Range Instrumentation Ship.

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby Nitesh » 22 Nov 2015 10:50

Cross post:

Missile test successful for AAD

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Hyd ... 905298.ece

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby SSridhar » 22 Nov 2015 12:57

The latest success of the AAD is very encouraging because in April it failed. The latest test has therefore validated the canister launch, new composite rocket motor, bigger warhead and a few other things as well.

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby Austin » 22 Nov 2015 14:28

SSridhar wrote:The latest test has therefore validated the canister launch, new composite rocket motor, bigger warhead and a few other things as well.


Did AAD underwent changes in last test and this one that you are mentioning ?

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby SSridhar » 22 Nov 2015 18:12

Yes, AFAIK. The previous test vehicle had all those things but it veered off track & self destructed.

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby John » 22 Nov 2015 23:08

Canister launch opens the boor for future integration with Kolkata :D .

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby Kanson » 29 Nov 2015 20:29

Multi-Object Kill Vehicle (MOKV) Begins to Take Shape

PAST its prime:
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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby brar_w » 02 Dec 2015 07:43

Seems its come a complete circle..It was the main concern which the jasons brought up during MIRV's development and now 5+ decades later they may have a chance at a counter to the MIRV problem. There is plenty of time to develop an anti-MIRV MOKV against threats that the ABM shield is designed to counter (Iran, and NOKO types)..Against a credible near peer adversary however the current shield will not work and this has pretty much been known for decades if not as long as the MIRV problem itself.

http://www.google.com/patents/US7494090

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Re: Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14

Postby brar_w » 07 Dec 2015 05:52

Singha wrote:IIR also needs less power than than RF and is purely passive, which means a RWR on the incoming missile cannot sense its being hunted and start evasive waverider or corkscrew manouvers or release decoys. it will work well looking up against the cold space background and seeking heat sources.


For Exoatmospheric intercepts such as the mid-course BM defense or higher speed exoatmospheric defense that you get from the SM3 and GBMD you will do well to go IR since you are essentially trying to nail down intercept from 100+ miles out with a kill vehicle that weighs around 60 kg. Israel's arrow-3 that is also an exoatmospheric ABM using a KV uses a similar principle (EO EKV) and is also purely hit to kill. The future Common Kill Vehicle concept will also use a similar principle even though it may include a mini kill vehicle dispenser system for MOKV type missions. It should have its first test launch around the end of the decade.

Kill vehicles and seekers are mission specific so are things like hit-to-kill that caught on after hard lessons were learnt from the gulf war (the first time a ballistic missile was intercepted and if I am not mistaken the patriot is the only system till date to has attempted multiple combat ballistic missile intercepts) with a rushed missile defense system that had a tiny envelope against a modified scud.

Here's an image from the Arrow-3 kill vehicle along with some background information on another concept from raytheon

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Raytheon has devised and patented a novel form of 'hit-to-kill' warhead able to compensate for modest miss distances.

The new warhead would also offer improved lethality against submunition warheads. Blast fragmentation (blast/frag) type warheads require a highly accurately timed fuzing and are not always effective at destroying re-entry vehicle (RV) payloads due to the RVs' highly resilient casing. Due to this, many anti-ballistic missile systems rely on 'hit-to-kill', obtaining their destructive effects from the kinetic energy of a direct body-to-body impact.

After being launched by a missile such as Ground Based Interceptor, THAAD (Terminal High Altitude Area Defence), or Standard Missile 3, a traditional 'hit-to-kill' vehicle is steered into a final trajectory that will cause it to strike the re-entry vehicle to render it inoperable.

This kill mechanism can be frustrated by countermeasures, Raytheon believes. As the company states in its patent application, if the RV payload consists of "biological warfare bomblets and chemical warfare submunition payloads" and one of these survives the kill-vehicle impact, it could still cause heavy casualties when it impacts.

Attempts have been made to increase the lethality of 'hit-to-kill' vehicles and to allow a kill even in the final guidance solution is not perfect. One approach involves surrounding the vehicle with a deployable fabric designed to score a slapping impact on a target in the even of a miss by a small distance.

Such schemes are intended to slap the target with enough impulse cause a delayed kill. According to Raytheon: "It is possible for submunitions to escape destruction." Also, says the company: "The fabric does not penetrate thick payloads when compared to high density rods."

Kinetic energy rod warheads have the advantages of not relying on such precise navigation as is the case with 'hit-to-kill' vehicles while providing greatly improved penetration in comparison to the fragments produced by a blast/frag warhead (due to their high length to diameter ratio).

A kinetic energy rod warhead would consist of a hull, hull bay, or projectile core carrying a number of individual lengthy cylindrical rods or projectiles, plus an explosive expulsion charge powerful enough to break the casing and disperse the rods. Care must still be taken with the release method as to minimise any tumbling or yawing of the rods. Any tumbling or induced yaw will (depending on their attitude at impact) greatly reduce the rods' penetration. A fuzing system is still required to determine when to deploy the rods, but it does not need to be as accurate as the fuze required for a blast/frag warhead.

Raytheon's proposed solution would consist of a hit-to-kill vehicle able to deploy a net carrying a number of rods over an area wide enough to ensure a hit on the target even if the main vehicle misses the target.

"This concept does not require a fuze because the rods are held (fixed) in place. The spray pattern density is constant and fuzing errors are not even considered. Since this concept is used in outer space, there no air drag on the deployed net. The net travels along with the kill vehicle".

The proposed net could be circular in shape, and deployed by a circumferential inflatable ring, or by thrusters attached to the periphery of the net.

As envisaged, the net would consist of intersecting members - either vertical members intersecting horizontal members or circular members intersecting axially extending members. Each rod would be positioned at an intersection of the members, giving a more accurately controlled density of the rods in space than deployment via an explosive charge. In the latter scheme, the density of the rod formation decreases rapidly after deployment, but the use of a net will limit the dimensions and maintain the density of the rod formation.

The proposed warhead would be able to destroy a nuclear target and/or its submunitions even if the main body of the hit-to-kill vehicle misses the target and/or fails to destroy a submunition, said Raytheon. It could combine the benefits and advantages of both hit-to-kill vehicles and conventional patterns of kinetic-energy rod warhead.

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby brar_w » 22 Jan 2016 00:18

Missile Defense Agency Targets Improvement In Homeland


Aerospace Daily & Defense Report Bill Sweetman

The Missile Defense Agency is preparing plans to improve the effectiveness of homeland missile defense by a factor of 12 by the end of the next decade.

The cost will be “marginal, compared to the billions already invested” in the Ground-based Midcourse Defense (GMD) radar and missile system, according to MDA director Vice Adm. James Syring.

The first step, in the next two years, is to increase the number of Ground-Based Interceptor (GBI) missiles and demonstrate solutions to nagging problems such as “rough combustion” in the current kill vehicle’s divert motors. Two 2017 tests are intended to demonstrate better capability against an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) with countermeasures, and a salvo ICBM attack.

A test set for the third quarter of fiscal 2019 will be the first to use the Redesigned Kill Vehicle (RKV), which is being developed by a Raytheon-Lockheed Martin-Boeing team with the MDA as integrating authority. Among other changes, the RKV has improved data communications and will be designed to work with offboard sensors for a better “shoot-assess-shoot” capability.

The next stage in MDA’s plans is the deployment of the Long Range Discrimination Radar, an S-band system based on gallium nitride technology: Lockheed Martin was awarded a nine-year, $784 million contract in October to develop it, and MDA intends to install it at Clear Air Force Station in Alaska. The goal of the new radar is to provide “persistent discrimination” and support better management of the last 30 sec. of an intercept, Syring says.



In the mid-to-late 2020s, MDA expects to deploy the Multi Object Kill Vehicle (MOKV), essentially a cluster of mini-KVs launched by a single GBI. “That’s ultimately where we want to be, versus continuing to chase the discrimination challenge,” Syring says. “Today we launch multiple GBIs against a threat; we want to fly one or two GBIs and achieve multiple kills.”

Ultimately, MDA’s goal is to use an airborne laser weapon for boost-phase defense, and is funding research to see whether either of two concepts – a fiber combined laser (FCL) or diode-pumped alkaline laser (DPAL) – can be reduced to a mass of 5 kg per kw of power or lower. “It has to be there, or there is no chance of making it,’ Syring says.

“We’ll know a lot by 2019.” Because the concept requires continuous patrols, the laser will have to be carried on a long-endurance UAV at 65,000 ft. If early technology tests are successful, a Low Power Laser Demonstration could fly in 2021.

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby jayasimha » 28 Feb 2016 16:08

oy oy oy... why we should leave mijjile dhaga without updates...???

I am sure this visit will loosen lot of purse strings

http://www.dailypioneer.com/todays-news ... fence.html

India and Israel are expected to ink a significant Defence deal worth over Rs50,000 crore for Seeker technology ahead of Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s visit to Tel Aviv later this year. The cutting-edge technology will help India take a giant leap forward in manufacturing smart weapons within the country and rapidly modernise missile and rocket system used by the IAF, Army and Navy.

The talks for wrapping up the deal are in advanced stage between the two countries and Israel has agreed to transfer the expertise to develop and manufacture Seeker technology. It will enable the Defence forces to identify, acquire and then destroy an enemy missile or aircraft at long range or beyond visual range.

In simple terms, it means a warship can fire a missile at a hostile target at more than 200 km distance without visually sighting it as compared to the present 50 to 60 km. Seeker technology will also revolutionise the armoured corps as tanks will hit a target at a greater distance and same will be the case for fighter jets. In fact, this technology will cover the entire gamut of missiles ranging from Akash to Long Range Surface to Air Missiles (LRSAM) used by the three Services.

Elaborating upon the importance of this proposed deal, officials said here on Saturday the countries including the US and some European countries are reluctant to transfer Seeker technology to India resulting in the country’s missile system lagging behind by at least two generations.

Against this backdrop, Israel has given a clear signal that it will provide the critical ‘know why’ instead of ‘know how’. Starved of the state-of-the-art technology, the Indian industry depends on know how or technology transfer but has not been able to master entire process of manufacturing a smart weapon from scratch. In turn, it hampers the faster modernisation of the armed forces as they are using weapons which are at least 15 to 20 years behind in terms of technological advancement as compared to the US, China and NATO countries.

Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) will be the lead agency in developing this technology. The Prime Minister’s Office (PMO) had given an “in-principle” approval for setting up of an Rs6,000-crore facility by the DRDO for air missile defence systems last year.

Besides the Seeker technology deal, the two countries are likely to ink a Rs10,000-crore deal for joint development of a medium-range surface-to-air missile system for the Indian Army.

The other pacts include procurement of 164 laser-designation pods or ‘Litening-4’ for IAF fighters like SU-30s and Jaguars as well as 250 advanced ‘Spice’ precision stand-off bombs capable of destroying fortified enemy underground command centres. The Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) chaired by the Prime Minister may clear it next month, sources said.

Talks are also underway to finalise a Rs3,200-crore contract for 321 ‘Spike’ anti tank guided (ATGM) systems and 8,356 missiles. The Army is in urgent need for third-generation ATGMs, with a strike range of over 2.5-km and fire-and-forget capabilities, to equip all its 382 infantry battalions and 44 mechanised infantry units.

The NDA Government in 2014 had selected the Israeli Spike ATGM over the US Javelin missile system, but the actual contract could not be inked due to some issues. The project involves an initial off-the-shelf induction, followed by large-scale indigenous manufacture by Bharat Dynamics Ltd (BDL).

The proposed medium range surface to air missile (MRSAM) project between DRDO and Israeli Aerospace Industries (IAI), too, is a big ticket item, officials said. The initial order is for one MRSAM regiment, with 16 firing units along with their multifunction surveillance and weapon control systems. BDL will manufacture these missiles. DRDO and IAI are already engaged in a project worth over Rs13,000 crore for Navy and IAF for developing similar missiles.

Incidentally, the Israel Defence industry is closely involved with the DRDO in more than 30 projects, including development of radars, electronic warfare systems and satellite based command and control systems for the three Services.

Moreover, Israeli made Greenpine radars are successfully integrated into the Agni missiles systems capable of carrying nuclear warheads. Israel is now the third largest weapon supplier after the US and Russia to India since diplomatic ties between the two nations were established in 1990

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby sohamn » 02 Mar 2016 00:10

jayasimha wrote:Moreover, Israeli made Greenpine radars are successfully integrated into the Agni missiles systems capable of carrying nuclear warheads. Israel is now the third largest weapon supplier after the US and Russia to India since diplomatic ties between the two nations were established in 1990


What does this even mean? How can Greenpine be integrated to Agni?

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby member_24684 » 02 Mar 2016 07:25

sohamn wrote:
jayasimha wrote:Moreover, Israeli made Greenpine radars are successfully integrated into the Agni missiles systems capable of carrying nuclear warheads. Israel is now the third largest weapon supplier after the US and Russia to India since diplomatic ties between the two nations were established in 1990


What does this even mean? How can Greenpine be integrated to Agni?



Radar guided Agni missiles :lol: :lol:

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby Karan M » 02 Mar 2016 07:30

Each Agni has a Greenpine on it.

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby SSridhar » 23 May 2016 07:16

Interceptor missile mission a ‘failure’ - T.S.Subramanian, The Hindu
The interceptor missile mission, which took place on May 15, was a failure despite claims of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) to the contrary. The interceptor never took off to intercept the incoming “enemy” missile which merely fell into the Bay of Bengal, informed sources said.

An agency report on May 16 said a modified Prithvi missile was launched on May 15 from a naval ship in the Bay of Bengal and it mimicked the trajectory of a missile coming from an enemy country.

‘Never took off’

Informed sources, however, said the interceptor missile never took off from the island; so no interception took place at all. “Post-flight analysis is going on. We do not know whether there was problem in detecting the missile, whether radars tracked it and communicated it to the interceptor,” said the sources.

The DRDO developed both the Prithvi missile and the interceptor.

2015 mission failed too


In April 2015, a similar mission failed after the interceptor dived into the Bay of Bengal a few seconds after lift off. In that mission, the DRDO planned to conduct the test against an electronic target missile. In April 2014, the warhead in the interceptor failed to explode, although the interception of the incoming “enemy” missile took place at an altitude of 120 km.

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby abhijitm » 23 May 2016 07:19

"Informed source"??

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby SSridhar » 23 May 2016 09:31

When TSS says 'informed source', one accepts it.

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby Mihir » 23 May 2016 10:30

Karan M wrote:Each Agni has a Greenpine on it.

I think you're confusing the Agni with the nuclear-capable Akash.

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby sum » 23 May 2016 10:33

^^ Usually these reports come from H.K.Rout. Somehwo, guess his sources were given the danda to stay shut while TSS sources squealed this time.

Really bad on the DRDO if the missile didnt even take off but was portrayed as a success!

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby uddu » 23 May 2016 10:37

What if its tested to see whether it will take off when the target missile is taking off and falling far ahead of the range of the interceptor? :) In that case the test is a tremendous success. :) If not find the problem and fix it. That's why testing is done right.

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby deejay » 23 May 2016 15:30

sum wrote:^^ Usually these reports come from H.K.Rout. Somehwo, guess his sources were given the danda to stay shut while TSS sources squealed this time.

Really bad on the DRDO if the missile didnt even take off but was portrayed as a success!


Lot of smoke screen. Whatever happened there is not for public consumption. DRDO may still have succeeded in what it was doing. ABM may not have been it.

Interesting to note Paki reaction while I am yet to see/hear/read US or Chinese reaction to these.

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby Austin » 24 May 2016 12:54

Intercept not taking off can be many reason , Could just be that the target missile could not reach the engagement envelop of interceptor or perhaps broke in mid-air as was once the case IIRC.

Most likely DRDO could be testing these interceptor in full auto mode where every thing is decided by computer without any intervention , if the computer does not get enough FC data for optimum mode of interception it wont launch the interceptor.

A BM can afford few hundred meter to few Km to be off the Target represented by CEP and still be effective , An ABM interceptor cannot afford to miss even by few meter and prefers HTK , even a few sec offcourse in compution data might mean missing the target by few km at the speed which target travel.

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby hnair » 25 May 2016 14:47

Mihir wrote:
Karan M wrote:Each Agni has a Greenpine on it.

I think you're confusing the Agni with the nuclear-capable Akash.


Is this one that is 200m diameter?

btw, unruffling feathers has been one of the key objectives of Indian PR, very unique in the world

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby Karan M » 25 May 2016 17:47

Sincerely doubt DRDL will in in anyways not give the exact status of the AAD test, failure or not, they have always been very transparent about their program launches. Several failed launches they could have hidden but did not

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby Austin » 30 May 2016 14:11

A short write up on S-500 system

S-500 Air & Space Defense System
http://austinstalk.blogspot.in/2016/05/ ... ystem.html

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby Lilo » 23 Oct 2016 16:24

‘S-400 Triumf to complement India’s existing ballistic defence shield’: former DRDO chief V K Saraswat

Stating that India has an active missile shield that has the capability to intercept an incoming ballistic missile, V K Saraswat, the former chief of DRDO and an active member of NITI Aayog, said Saturday that the Russian S-400 Triumf air defence system that India plans to acquire will “complement” the existing system.
“The Russian system will complement our ballistic missile defence system,” Saraswat told The Sunday Express on the sidelines of a symposium on “Technologies in Defence and Internal Security” organised at the Indian Institute of Technology-Gandhinagar (IIT-Gn) on Saturday.
The deal for buying the S-400 Triumf air defence systems worth $5 billion was announced following talks held between Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Russian President Vladimir Putin at the BRICS summit in Goa recently. These missiles can destroy aircraft, missiles and drones.
“We have a no-first-use policy. Today we have the capability of intercepting missiles at an altitude of 100 kilometres above the atmosphere and 30 kilometres inside the atmosphere. What we do not have is space-based capabilities that will detect the launch of an enemy missile. We need capabilities that can detect the missile as soon as the plumes become visible,” Saraswat said earlier while speaking at the symposium.
The NITI Aayog member said that DRDO through six flights have successfully demonstrated the efficacy of the missile shield. “We need to intercept missiles travelling at a speed of Mach four or five, which is about 1,500-2,000 metre per second. We have to be faster at about 3,000 metre per second. DRDO has done this,” he added.
His said that India began work on its ballistic missile defence systems in 1999 under the leadership of Dr Abdul Kalam. “As a number of countries have developed ballistic missile systems, we need defence systems that have decoys, stealth and can operate from multiple platforms,” Saraswat said.

Status of LCA Tejas
Speaking at the same event, Commodore CD Balaji, director of Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) said that the final operational clearance (FOC) for the indigenously developed Light Combat Aircraft - Tejas - that was recently inducted into the Indian Air Force (IAF), is expected to get further delayed to middle of 2017. “The LCA has completed about 3270 flight tests.... We are expecting to receive the final operational clearances by the middle of next year,” he said.

Confirmation that Indian BMD is already operational .

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby Gagan » 25 Oct 2016 04:01

Is the desi BMD really deployed? I mean the AAD & PAD interceptors with the Green Pine AESA?
India does have Anti aircraft sheild deployed, but an Anti-missile system is deployed, this is news to me.

The biggest problem with our fauji and defence babus is that they use imprecise terminology when interacting with media. It more often than not sends the wrong signals

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby Mihir » 26 Oct 2016 02:19

I don't think do. Ajai Shukla said in his Reddit AMA that there are "developmental issues".


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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby Austin » 19 Jan 2017 00:26

Arrow 3 Ballistic Missile Interceptor - Successful Target Intercept


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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby brar_w » 02 Feb 2017 05:29

Posted it earlier but it vanished from youtube for a while. Two recent developments have laid the groundwork for THAAD-ER funding probably starting the next US budget. One was the GaN bump to the AN/TPY-2 radar and another was the moving of the test site from Hawaii to Alaska where more range space is available. Their goal would be to get this by early to mid 2020's.



The Missile Defense Agency wants to establish Alaska as the new home for testing elements of the Ballistic Missile Defense System -- the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) and Patriot systems -- currently evaluated at military ranges in Hawaii."The Missile Defense Agency (MDA) is proposing to conduct defensive weapon system flight tests of various Ballistic Missile Defense systems from the Pacific Spaceport Complex Alaska (PSCA) on Kodiak Island, and intercepting target missiles in the broad ocean area generally south of Kodiak Island," according to a "notice of availability" MDA published.

Previous THAAD tests have been conducted at the Pacific Missile Range Facility in Hawaii and White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico.

Why is MDA eyeing Alaska?

"MDA chose PSCA for future THAAD tests based on its location and cost," said MDA spokeswoman Leah Garton.

Ballistic missile defense interceptors launched from Kodiak will not fly over populated areas, she added. "All launches from PSCA are over the Gulf of Alaska and the North Pacific Ocean and it is the only facility in the United States that has the unrestricted range capability to support MDA's unique mission requirements."


https://insidedefense.com/daily-news/md ... ska-hawaii

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby Austin » 11 Feb 2017 10:26

https://twitter.com/SJha1618

A new @DRDO_India BMD interceptor sporting an indigenous IIR seeker intercepted a ballistic target at an altitude of 97 km earlier today

The interceptor is a variant of the PDV with a new IIR seeker, propulsion & avionics. It's interception window spans from 80-120 km.

Most importantly, this was a 'hit to kill' missions with @DRDO_India's new PDV smashing into the deviating & 'undefined' target. 8)

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby arun » 11 Feb 2017 11:38

X Posted from the "Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14" thread.

Karthik S wrote:
Saurav Jha ‏@SJha1618
A new @DRDO_India BMD interceptor sporting an indigenous IIR seeker intercepted a ballistic target at an altitude of 97 km earlier today.


nash wrote:Some more of his tweet

Saurav Jha ‏@SJha1618 46m46 minutes ago
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The interceptor is a variant of the PDV with a new IIR seeker, propulsion & avionics. It's interception window spans from 80-120 km.

Saurav Jha ‏@SJha1618 45m45 minutes ago
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Most importantly, this was a 'hit to kill' missions with @DRDO_India's new PDV smashing into the deviating & 'undefined' target.



Regards the Ashwin PDV ballistic missile interceptor test reported by Saurav Jha, for the sake of good order, it can be confirmed that a NAVAREA VIII Warning for a Missile Test was in force today:

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DTG 081001Z/FEB
FROM NAVAREA VIII CO-ORDINATOR TO NAVAREA VIII – 095
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INDIA EAST COAST – OFF PARADIP (.) CHARTS 31 351 352 INT 71 (.) EXPERIMENTAL
FLIGHT TRIAL SCHEDULED FROM ITR ON 11 FEB 17 FROM 0030-0430 UTC IN DANGER ZONE
BOUNDED BY 21-27.30N 087-30.55E, 19-42.63N 086-23.27E, 18-37.32N 087-55.38E, 20-21.12N 089-
00.30E
2. CANCEL NAVAREA MSG 093 AND THIS MSG 110530 UTC FEB 17
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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby arun » 11 Feb 2017 11:59

X Posted from the “Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14” thread.

PTI via Hindu quoting an unnamed DRDO official on the PDV ballistic missile interceptor test.

Any idea on what this 2000 km range ship launched two stage target missile is :?: A marineised version of Agni 2 :?: :

The interceptor was launched from Abdul Kalam Island (Wheeler Island) of ITR at about 7.45 AM.

This mission, termed as “PDV mission is for engaging the targets in the exo-atmosphere region at an altitude above 50 km of earth’s atmosphere”, said a Defence Research Development Organisation (DRDO) official.

“Both, the PDV interceptor and the two stage target missile, were successfully engaged,” he said.

The target was developed for mimicking a hostile Ballistic Missile approaching from more than 2000 km away was launched from a ship anchored in the Bay of Bengal.


From here:

Interceptor missile successfully test-fired

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby Austin » 11 Feb 2017 12:30

The target is mimicing a 2000 km range missile , its not the target is launched from 2000 km , The target is modified prithvi with hight reentry speed of 2000 km class range BM

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby arun » 11 Feb 2017 17:47

^^^ :oops: I missed that. Thanks for pointing it out.

Meanwhile by mimicking I guess DRDO means the intercepted target missile was travelling at a speed around 3.86 to 4.07 km/sec per Table 6 of the article titled A BALLISTIC MISSILE PRIMER

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby arun » 11 Feb 2017 19:48

A bland Ministry of Defence press release:

Press Information Bureau
Government of India
Ministry of Defence
11-February-2017 18:28 IST

India Successfully Test Fires Exo-Atmospheric Interceptor Missile

At 0745 hrs today, India successfully conducted a test wherein an incoming ballistic missile target was intercepted by an exo-atmospheric interceptor missile off the Bay of Bengal.

With this commendable scientific achievement, India has crossed an important milestone in building its overall capability towards enhanced security against incoming ballistic missile threats. It has entered an exclusive club of four nations with developing capabilities to secure its skies and cities against hostile threats.

Prime Minister Shri Narendra Modi and Defence Minister Shri Manohar Parrikar lauded the efforts of the DRDO and all the scientists involved for their dedicated efforts in this significant achievement.

NW/NAo/Ranjan


From here:

Clicky

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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby arun » 12 Feb 2017 09:20

X Posted from the “Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion - June'14” thread.

Audio clip of Dr VK Saraswat, Scientific Advisor to the Defence Minister, talking about the February 11th PDV Exo Atmospheric Interceptor Missile Test by DRDO.

Says that the PDV has a hit to kill capability for tagets in the 80 to 150 km altitude. Also says that the terminal guidance was by a indigenous infra red seeker:

Dr VK Saraswat On The PDV Exo Atmospheric Interceptor Missile Test By DRDO


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Re: ABM/Missile Defense Discussion

Postby Prasad » 25 Feb 2017 16:59

Hit-to-Kill Successfully Demonstrated By DRDO’s PDV Interceptor

Some interesting information on the PDV program.


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