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Om Shanti.
Hope it is not a repeat of tail rotor detachment issue of 2017.
https://www.firstpost.com/india/iafs-mi ... 21447.html
Hope it is not a repeat of tail rotor detachment issue of 2017.
https://www.firstpost.com/india/iafs-mi ... 21447.html
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Mods can we get a separate thread for this...
There is going to be a lot of news, theories, info, speculations, tributes etc pouring in over the next few weeks and more.
There is going to be a lot of news, theories, info, speculations, tributes etc pouring in over the next few weeks and more.
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A very sad day for all of us! Om Shanti.
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Devastating news, to put it mildly. Om shanti.
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I am truly heartbroken. General Rawat was a legend. He will be sorely missed.
My sincere condolences to his family at their terrible loss.
A very sad day for India.
My sincere condolences to his family at their terrible loss.
A very sad day for India.
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Horrendous tragedy.
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Couldn't believe it when i saw the news. Absolutely tragic.
Om shanti
Om shanti
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A very horrific tragedy for Bharat, also at a personal level for me. I feel devastated. Om shanti to the deceased and may their families get the strength to deal with this irreparable loss. Gen Rawat has left very big shoes to fill.
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https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1468565529346523145?s=20 ---> The mortal remains of Chief of Defence Staff General Bipin Rawat and his wife along with other Armed Forces personnel killed in the chopper crash expected to arrive in Delhi by evening tomorrow.
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Bharat ma ke ak saput aaj hame chore a chale gaye. I cried this morning.
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From General Ved Prakash Malik, former COAS.
https://twitter.com/Vedmalik1/status/14 ... 52928?s=20 ---> 1/3. Deeply shocked and anguished by the tragic news of helicopter crash in which Gen Bipin Rawat, Mrs Rawat and 11 other soldiers were lost. Bipin had impeccable soldierly qualities, military knowledge & experience for the CDS post. Determined, articulate & straightforward...
https://twitter.com/Vedmalik1/status/14 ... 39747?s=20 ----> 2/3 ...in pursuing what he believed in. He pursued integration & jointness amongst Armed Forces-his primary responsibility-& other defence reforms with great vigour. He & Madhulika made a charming, amiable, very social couple. Their untimely death is an irreparable...
https://twitter.com/Vedmalik1/status/14 ... 56867?s=20 ---> ...loss for the nation. Brigadier LS Lidder was to pick up next rank and a Division very shortly. Sad to lose him, Colonel Harjinder Singh, air forces officers & men. Om Shanti. Praying for Group Captain Varun’s recovery & health.
https://twitter.com/Vedmalik1/status/14 ... 52928?s=20 ---> 1/3. Deeply shocked and anguished by the tragic news of helicopter crash in which Gen Bipin Rawat, Mrs Rawat and 11 other soldiers were lost. Bipin had impeccable soldierly qualities, military knowledge & experience for the CDS post. Determined, articulate & straightforward...
https://twitter.com/Vedmalik1/status/14 ... 39747?s=20 ----> 2/3 ...in pursuing what he believed in. He pursued integration & jointness amongst Armed Forces-his primary responsibility-& other defence reforms with great vigour. He & Madhulika made a charming, amiable, very social couple. Their untimely death is an irreparable...
https://twitter.com/Vedmalik1/status/14 ... 56867?s=20 ---> ...loss for the nation. Brigadier LS Lidder was to pick up next rank and a Division very shortly. Sad to lose him, Colonel Harjinder Singh, air forces officers & men. Om Shanti. Praying for Group Captain Varun’s recovery & health.
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a very sad day for India. irreparable loss at a critical juncture. may their souls find peace.
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Very Sad news! May Waheguru give eternal peace to the departed souls.
We never had a Vice CDS? who is going to be the new CDS? it is immediately needed.
We never had a Vice CDS? who is going to be the new CDS? it is immediately needed.
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the name should be out very soonSBajwa wrote:Very Sad news! May Waheguru give eternal peace to the departed souls.
We never had a Vice CDS? who is going to be the new CDS? it is immediately needed.
Deeply saddened to hear about the demise of CDS Gen Bipin Rawat, his wife, and 11 other Armed Forces personnel in the accident.
We think of their families, in this time of tragedy and loss.
It's also a huge loss to the nation.
The nation will always be grateful to Gen.Rawat for his service to the nation.
Om Shanti.
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We do have a Vice CDS - right now that office is being held by Air Marshal Balabhadra Radha Krishna who took over that post on 30 Sept 2021. He is the third officer to hold that title. The first VCDS was Vice Admiral (now Admiral and CNS) Radhakrishnan Hari Kumar, the next was Vice Admiral Atul Kumar Jain and now Air Marshal BR Krishna.SBajwa wrote:Very Sad news! May Waheguru give eternal peace to the departed souls.
We never had a Vice CDS? who is going to be the new CDS? it is immediately needed.
Here is the link ---> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balabhadra_Radha_Krishna
Lets not speculate on who the next CDS will be. Let the Govt announce it.
Another (more important) reason to not speculate is to respect the memory of General Bipin Rawat.
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Terrible news for the day. Very hands-on leader, decisive personality and showed terrific energy in addressing all sorts of issues
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Absolutely shocking. How can these things happen? Targeting the best, brightest, and bravest leadership of our armed forces is what the enemy would attempt to do in a decapitation strike. Apparently we are capable of inflicting such a strike on ourselves.
Om Shanti.
Om Shanti.
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@vk122002:
Don't like to speculate but I've flown the Mi17 1Vs and they are among the sturdiest helicopters flying around the world, the helicopter was piloted by very experienced aircrew.Every angle needs to be deeply investigated including the airbase and personnel of AFS Sulur @IAF_MCC
https://twitter.com/veekay122002/status ... dzEoA&s=19
@vk122002:
Don't like to speculate but I've flown the Mi17 1Vs and they are among the sturdiest helicopters flying around the world, the helicopter was piloted by very experienced aircrew.Every angle needs to be deeply investigated including the airbase and personnel of AFS Sulur @IAF_MCC
https://twitter.com/veekay122002/status ... dzEoA&s=19
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Rudradev-ji, initial reports are stating that the helicopter descended for better visibility due to heavy fog. In the process of descent, the helicopter either hit a high tension wire or a tree. The Court of Inquiry will clarify.Rudradev wrote:Absolutely shocking. How can these things happen? Targeting the best, brightest, and bravest leadership of our armed forces is what the enemy would attempt to do in a decapitation strike. Apparently we are capable of inflicting such a strike on ourselves.
Om Shanti.
The officer piloting the chopper was the CO of the helicopter unit. The pilots who transport command and flag officers are the best and brightest. It is a sad day for India.
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Isn't it a SOP to not have many high ranking officials in the same flight?
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Rakesh, In 1963 there was a helicopter crash that killed the top second-level commanders in both IA and IAF.
The same problem of helicopter hitting high tension wires. As you say let us find out,,
The same problem of helicopter hitting high tension wires. As you say let us find out,,
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How many such heli crashes happen in other countries... can't bear to hear usual reasons like weather, bad luck, visibility, either we have all modcons like weather radars or better not to use such for VVIPs. Hope they investigate all angles including base personnel
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I am sad at the passing away of CDS Gen. Bipin Rawat when Tibeten border is at flashpoint against Chinese, and military reorganization metamorphosis is not yet complete.
But Bharat must soldier on....
My salute and shraddanjali to the departed Veer Yoddha Gen Rawat, and all other officers & officials in the draft.
Wishing Gp Capt Varun Singh speedy recovery.
But Bharat must soldier on....
My salute and shraddanjali to the departed Veer Yoddha Gen Rawat, and all other officers & officials in the draft.
Wishing Gp Capt Varun Singh speedy recovery.
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Please understand this tweet below....
https://twitter.com/ColSanjayPande/stat ... 31812?s=20 ----> Armed Forces have age old drills for handling fatal casualties. They first inform the Next of Kin. It’s NOT important that you know about the state of on board. To YOU it’s ‘excitement’ to Next of Kin, it’s life changing tragedy.
https://twitter.com/ColSanjayPande/stat ... 31812?s=20 ----> Armed Forces have age old drills for handling fatal casualties. They first inform the Next of Kin. It’s NOT important that you know about the state of on board. To YOU it’s ‘excitement’ to Next of Kin, it’s life changing tragedy.
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Moksham Praptirastu to all the departed. A very sad day.
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https://twitter.com/Maverickmusafir/sta ... 30534?s=20
We don’t know them all, but we owe them all.
Prayers for the families of
Gen Bipin Rawat,
Mrs Madhulika Rawat,
Brig LS Lidder,
Lt Col H Singh,
Wg Cdr PS Chauhan,
Sqn Ldr K Singh,
JWO Das,
JWO Pradeep A,
Hav Satpal,
Nk Gursewak Singh,
Nk Jitender,
L/Nk Vivek,
L/Nk S Teja.
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Terrible and sad news. India first CDS, a more worthy person I can't think of.
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Air Cmde K Kale Explains The Environmental, Technical & External Aspects Influencing Chopper Crash
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Terrible Terrible news!
Salute and Shraddhanjali to Gen Bipin Rawat. Maa Bharat will always be grateful for your services sir.
Om Shanti to all the departed souls.
Salute and Shraddhanjali to Gen Bipin Rawat. Maa Bharat will always be grateful for your services sir.
Om Shanti to all the departed souls.
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Truly a life well lived.A heart-felt salute to General Rawat and other personnel. Om Shanti .
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These are times when he would be most neededRupesh wrote:Truly a life well lived.A heart-felt salute to General Rawat and other personnel. Om Shanti .
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Om shanti to all departed Souls!!
I have absolutely been not myself, almost hoping that it is bad nightmare and once I wake up it will be gone!!
We only have so few good people, losing one at the most needed time is heart wrenching.
I have absolutely been not myself, almost hoping that it is bad nightmare and once I wake up it will be gone!!
We only have so few good people, losing one at the most needed time is heart wrenching.
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Om Shanti to all the crash victims.
Our deepest condolences to all their near and dear ones.
We lost a very forthright and straight talking leader yesterday. Gen Rawat was the right man to handle our nation's myriad defence challenges in conjunction with Modi-ji, Parrikar-ji, and Doval-ji. All of them unquestionable patriots and men with the right intent, right thought process, and right action. The rest is of course the will of God.
We are fortunate to have witnessed them at the helm for the last few years. Let us be grateful for what they have achieved within their allotted timeframes. One can only wish for the opportunity to be of similar service. Jai Hind.
Our deepest condolences to all their near and dear ones.
We lost a very forthright and straight talking leader yesterday. Gen Rawat was the right man to handle our nation's myriad defence challenges in conjunction with Modi-ji, Parrikar-ji, and Doval-ji. All of them unquestionable patriots and men with the right intent, right thought process, and right action. The rest is of course the will of God.
We are fortunate to have witnessed them at the helm for the last few years. Let us be grateful for what they have achieved within their allotted timeframes. One can only wish for the opportunity to be of similar service. Jai Hind.
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https://twitter.com/FrontalForce/status ... 4666533888
Shots of the helicopter a few seconds before crash. The fog is dense.
Shots of the helicopter a few seconds before crash. The fog is dense.
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@ANI· 1h
Air Marshal Manvendra Singh is heading the tri-services inquiry into the IAF Mi-17 that crashed yesterday. Singh is Commander of Indian Air Force’s training command and a helicopter pilot himself: IAF Officials
Flight Data Recorder and Cockpit Voice Recorder of the Mi-17V5 chopper that crashed yesterday with CDS Gen Bipin Rawat has been recovered from the site: Sources
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CFIT - "Controlled Flight Into Terrain". Happens to the best of them.sanjayc wrote:https://twitter.com/FrontalForce/status ... 4666533888
Shots of the helicopter a few seconds before crash. The fog is dense.
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the guy in the video is asking "odan-ji-ducha" in tamil - is it broken? the location looks like some hilly terrain - if you notice the train track - it looks like narrow gauge.
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Dad was telling me about this incident yesterday. He was serving then.ramana wrote:Rakesh, In 1963 there was a helicopter crash that killed the top second-level commanders in both IA and IAF.
The same problem of helicopter hitting high tension wires. As you say let us find out,,
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0) There is heavy fog with near zero visibility where the helicopter is flyingV_Raman wrote:the guy in the video is asking "odan-ji-ducha" in tamil - is it broken? the location looks like some hilly terrain - if you notice the train track - it looks like narrow gauge.
1) The normal helicopter sound changes to a grating sound, which makes it sound like an impact
2) Guy in the video asks "What happened? Did it break?" --> not sure what prompted him to pop that question automatically as if that's the most natural explanation
3) The guy who is recording the video says "Amam" (Yes) in an even tone, as if he is sure
4) Two of the girls can be seen smiling (or barely suppressing a smile). One of them is wearing a purdah
Maybe just tourists recording a helicopter. But surprised to see no concern/shock/surprise in their faces when they suspected that the helicopter got broken up