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JUST IN: Mortal remains of Lt Col Abheet Singh Baath, pilot of the Rudra that crashed on Aug 2, retrieved from a depth of 75.9 m at 1819h in the Ranjit Sagar Lake. Efforts to retrieve mortal remains of the second pilot continue. Prayers with the family of Lt Col Baath
https://twitter.com/livefist/status/1426913045209509890
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Om Shanti!

His family gets closure at last. May the almighty grant them strength to bear his loss.

May the family of the other pilot also get closure soon..
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https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/j-k/1 ... oir-297963

12 days after Dhruv helicopter crash, body of one pilot retrieved from Ranjit Sagar reservoir
Mortal remains of Lt Col AS Baath retrieved from a depth of 75.9 metre, says an Army officer, adding efforts to retrieve the mortal remains of the second pilot continue
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Divers from the Navy and the Army’s Special Forces have been involved in the search operations using multi-beam sonars, side scanners, remotely operated vehicles and underwater manipulators which have been flown in from Chandigarh, Delhi, Mumbai and Kochi.

Yesterday, the IAF had airlifted a Submarine Rescue Unit of the Indian Navy from Vishakapatnam to the crash site to explore the digitally located wreckage at a depth of approximately 80 - 100 metre.

Earlier, a small area of 60 metre by 60 metre had been localised and special sonar equipment flown in from Kochi was employed to enable the search operations to enter the final phase. On August 11, the Army had stated that the wreckage had been identified at a depth of approximately 80 metre from the surface of the reservoir.

The expansive reservoir is 25 km long, 8 km wide and more than 150 metre deep. Besides the Army and the Navy, other agencies involved in the search operations include the National Disaster Relief Force, Ranjit Sagar Dam Authority and the local district administration as well as local residents.

Sources said this was the second incident involving a Dhruv helicopter from the same squadron in the past about six months. Another Dhruv from a different unit, also based at Pathankot, made a forced landing in the fields last week after suffering an oil leak, sources added.
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The below Twitter handle is usually reliable. Unfortunate crash.
IAF MiG-21 Bison crashes in Rajasthan. Pilot ejected safely.

https://twitter.com/TheWolfpackIN/statu ... 47909?s=19
Okay, IAF handle confirms it.
At around 1730 hrs today, an IAF MiG-21 Bison aircraft airborne for a training sortie in the western sector, experienced a technical malfunction after take off. The pilot ejected safely.
A Court of Inquiry has been ordered to ascertain the cause.

https://twitter.com/IAF_MCC/status/1430 ... 07110?s=19
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Thank goodness, the pilot is safe.
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https://twitter.com/TheWolfpackIN/statu ... 08197?s=20 ---> An IAF CH-47F 'Chinook' Heavy Lift helicopter made an emergency landing in Buxar district of Bihar. No damage to helicopter and all onboard safe.

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Rakesh wrote:Thank goodness, the pilot is safe.
+1

Still feeling acutely for the non recovery of the body of the 2nd pilot of that helicopter crash. 3 plus weeks now, will there be any recovery possible now :(
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Bhaskar_T wrote:The below Twitter handle is usually reliable. Unfortunate crash.
IAF MiG-21 Bison crashes in Rajasthan. Pilot ejected safely.

https://twitter.com/TheWolfpackIN/statu ... 47909?s=19
Okay, IAF handle confirms it.
At around 1730 hrs today, an IAF MiG-21 Bison aircraft airborne for a training sortie in the western sector, experienced a technical malfunction after take off. The pilot ejected safely.
A Court of Inquiry has been ordered to ascertain the cause.

https://twitter.com/IAF_MCC/status/1430 ... 07110?s=19
Everytime this thread appears - I keep hoping it isnt an accident.

This is the 4th Mig21 Bison crash of the year. Of all the preceeding years - this would be highest & its only august.
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Rakesh wrote:https://twitter.com/TheWolfpackIN/statu ... 08197?s=20 ---> An IAF CH-47F 'Chinook' Heavy Lift helicopter made an emergency landing in Buxar district of Bihar. No damage to helicopter and all onboard safe.
https://twitter.com/livefist/status/143 ... 61920?s=20 ---> An IAF CH-47F Chinook from the Chandigarh-based Featherweights flight made an emergency landing in a school ground in Buxar, Bihar earlier today. All safe, the helicopter has since flown out.

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Another Mig 21 Bison crash

https://twitter.com/IAF_MCC/status/1430518975625007110
At around 1730 hrs today, an IAF MiG-21 Bison aircraft airborne for a training sortie in the western sector, experienced a technical malfunction after take off. The pilot ejected safely.
A Court of Inquiry has been ordered to ascertain the cause.
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The pilot of mig 21 bailed out. Let's hope that he escaped any serious injury and can return to flight status quickly.
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Hello friends, some 6-7 years back I remember somebody here used to post a link where we could read the flight safety magazines of IAF. Can someone post that link again? That magazine used to have some of the details of the air crashes/incidents of IAF, which we outsiders usually never get to hear.
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Years back, I got my hands on a couple of IAF flight safety magazines. They were eye openers. I loved them.

It is news to me that there is an online link for this. I really hope someone can find this, but I asked google chacha and came up short.
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IA helicopter crash. 2 injured.
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/h ... 2021-09-21
. In a statement, the Indian Army said, "Today during a training sortie in Patnitop area, an Indian Army Cheetah Helicopter crash-landed in Shiv Garh Dhar area in Udhampur district. Two pilots have been injured and evacuated to the hospital."
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Hoping that the injuries are not too serious and they recover swiftly.
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sajaym wrote:Hello friends, some 6-7 years back I remember somebody here used to post a link where we could read the flight safety magazines of IAF. Can someone post that link again? That magazine used to have some of the details of the air crashes/incidents of IAF, which we outsiders usually never get to hear.
there are some ICAO magazines also giving in great detail accident reports.
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Manish_P wrote:Hoping that the injuries are not too serious and they recover swiftly.
Sad news coming in – both pilots succumbed. ऊँ शांति

https://www.republicworld.com/india-new ... nitop.html

In a shocking development, two pilots of an Indian Army aviation helicopter on Tuesday crash-landed near the Patnitop area of Jammu and Kashmir. As per Army's official statement, the two pilots were critically injured in the crash-landing and they were evacuated to the hospital. However, both the pilots Major Rohit Kumar and Major Anuj Rajput succumbed to their injuries.
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Its High time the Army fastrack the HAL LUH inductions and retires the aging CHetak's and Cheetah's
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Om Shanti
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A tragic loss for the nation and the families! I marvel at the lives of such bravehearts that sacrifice themselves for the rest of us. Thank you and may God reward your souls for your selfless sacrifice for the safety of your fellow beings.Om Shanti!
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^ +1

It's so difficult on the families who are left behind, especially older parents & young kids. And with each new accident of their brothers-in-arms, they relive the horror again.

God give them strength to bear the loss.

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See the quality of journalists employed by that moron Arnab...below quote from the above news article.
Last month, an ALH Dhruv helicopter of the Indian Army crashed into Ranjit Sagar lake in Jammu and Kashmir's Kathua. However, the pilots were safe. The Weapon System Integrated (WSI) helicopter had taken off from Pathankot (Punjab) and met with the accident during a routine sortie.
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Om Shantih.

The LUH cannot come a day too soon. Hope its embraced whole-heartedly by the forces.
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On shanti to our brave aviators.
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Manish_P wrote:Any reason why the unit was not called in earlier? It is more than 10 days now...

They just did not give up on the search but persevered.



@htTweets·1h
The body of the second pilot of the helicopter which crashed in Ranjit Sagar Dam has been recovered after 76 days: J&K Police

An Indian Army helicopter had crashed into Ranjit Sagar Dam on August 3, 2021
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chetak wrote:
The body of the second pilot of the helicopter which crashed in Ranjit Sagar Dam has been recovered after 76 days: J&K Police

An Indian Army helicopter had crashed into Ranjit Sagar Dam on August 3, 2021
via@htTweets·1h
Om Shanti!

Finally there is closure for the long suffering family.

They would have relived the horror over the past so many days, like when our jawans got KIA over this past week.. :(

May the almighty grant them strength for the future
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Manish_P wrote:
chetak wrote:
via@htTweets·1h
Om Shanti!

Finally there is closure for the long suffering family.

They would have relived the horror over the past so many days, like when our jawans got KIA over this past week.. :(

May the almighty grant them strength for the future

this closure was needed to make insurance settlements because without the evidence of demise, IIRC, there is a waiting period of seven years.

At least now, some money will get to the family to adjust and pick up the pieces and try to get on with their lives
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I was not referring to that kind of closure, important as it is.

I meant the family can properly conduct the last rites (as per their religious customs) for the moksha of the immortal soul... this helps in the grieving process.
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Manish_P wrote:I was not referring to that kind of closure, important as it is.

I meant the family can properly conduct the last rites (as per their religious customs) for the moksha of the immortal soul... this helps in the grieving process.
Sirji,

I was.

It is virtually impossible to live out seven odd years on handouts. People change, as do circumstances. In many families, what was initially seen as a "duty" to help, soon becomes a "burden"

Every Indian wife is not qualified enough to hold down a decent job. Many come from rural backgrounds and smaller towns and often have very small children to look after

And again, because, either the paperwork is not completed flawlessly or the line of succession is unclear because of lack of paperwork, many claimants surface to get themselves a piece of the pie.
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Madhya Pradesh: Indian Air Force's trainer aircraft crashes in Bhind, pilot injured, says Bhind SP Manoj Kumar Singh, reports ANI
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SSridhar wrote:Madhya Pradesh: Indian Air Force's trainer aircraft crashes in Bhind, pilot injured, says Bhind SP Manoj Kumar Singh, reports ANI
It seems Mirage 2000 ji (TOI). In title it is mentioned as trainer though.

Good News is Pilot Ejected Safely
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Visuals show the debris scattered on an empty field in Mankabad, some 6 km from Bhind

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/indian- ... _topscroll
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Relieved to hear Pilot safe!
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chetak wrote:
this closure was needed to make insurance settlements because without the evidence of demise, IIRC, there is a waiting period of seven years.

At least now, some money will get to the family to adjust and pick up the pieces and try to get on with their lives
The seven years are applicable only in case where the individual has gone missing without any trace.

In this situation the individual was on duty and it is well known what has actually happened to him. Certificate from the parent service about the status at the time of the accident is sufficient to establish facts of the case.

So for a life insurance claim. 7 year waiting period will not apply in this particular case.
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The aircraft was from No 7 Battle Axes Squadron.

https://twitter.com/IAF_MCC/status/1451 ... 71104?s=20 ---> An IAF Mirage 2000 aircraft experienced a technical malfunction during a training sortie in the central sector this morning. The pilot ejected safely. An Inquiry has been ordered to ascertain the cause of the accident.

https://twitter.com/SSBCrack/status/145 ... 67299?s=20 ---> Indian Air Force (IAF) plane crashes in Bhind, Madhya Pradesh. Pilot in safe condition.

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Pratyush wrote:
chetak wrote:
this closure was needed to make insurance settlements because without the evidence of demise, IIRC, there is a waiting period of seven years.

At least now, some money will get to the family to adjust and pick up the pieces and try to get on with their lives
The seven years are applicable only in case where the individual has gone missing without any trace.

In this situation the individual was on duty and it is well known what has actually happened to him. Certificate from the parent service about the status at the time of the accident is sufficient to establish facts of the case.

So for a life insurance claim. 7 year waiting period will not apply in this particular case.

archaic regulations still require proof.

logic, circumstantial analysis, and reasoning doesn't work with babooze
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Watch this video. Click on that link.

https://twitter.com/livefist/status/146 ... 77542?s=20 ---> Lucky escape for 5 on board this @IAF_MCC Mi-17 after a hard landing following a technical fault in Arunachal Pradesh. No one badly hurt.
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Glad the pilot is safe!! Do we have attrition reserves to keep numbers up? Or will they pull in from the collection of parts and airframes they purchased recently?
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Man it's been a bad day so far.. thank heavens they are all safe
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