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Discussion on Indian Special Forces

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Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Postby Gagan » 20 May 2017 00:57

NSG can be expected to be the best in CQB, because that is their primary line of work.

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Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Postby rkhanna » 20 May 2017 12:28

IMO, this bunching up of men (single file formation) is part of CQB drill and not exactly to be followed when you're exposed in open terrain. The pics have been taken in an open area for optics purpose. Again, IMO, it serves no purpose in open area.


If in open ground - they will be moving with Ballistic Shields. - Plenty of Pics of NSG with them already - Newly inducted Kit.

If RPG's and Heavy Guns in Play then NSG will either NOT be the primary Response Unit or Will move in close to the Structure with Armoured Sherpa's (again in Inventory)

First & third are good photo ops but bunched up without cover is asking for trouble, unless its a very momentary pause during sprint that the camera happened to capture.


This is a Photo Op for the Annual NSG Calender

NSG can be expected to be the best in CQB, because that is their primary line of work.


CQB is a perishable skill. Urban CQB is 90% of what NSG practices - where other SOF units will be practicing it less as compared to other fieldcraft. And their CQB orientation is easily visible in their Kit.

However Where NSG TRUELY comes into its own is in Hostage Rescue.

Lastly - If you see recent pictures of NSG SAG cadre you will notice that a higher % (than before) are carrying Balidan and SG badges on their uniforms. A wealth of Talent and experience is slowly accumulating within SAG ranks that will further increase their capability.

Like this gent for example

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Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Postby Singha » 20 May 2017 13:20

NSG being our national level FBI-HRT we should not expect them to be using ATGMs and Shipons liberally except to break down obstacles!!
being less collaterally damaging and ability to use low power MP3/5 weapons judiciously among innocents is perhaps part of the job.

cool but aint going to happen in chandni chowk - the usual khan motto of unleashing maximum lead "downrange" :D as a "operator" like Major Dutch leads a "team" , fast roping down from helis to nab the kid who stole a paratha from the stall.

the benghazi movie 13 hours is a must-see for fans of this genre...every warrior in the GRS CIA team a chiselled rogueish type from the pages of 300, bushy beard, laconic acronyms, a disdain for weak minded civilians, armed to the gunwales with a wide variety of stuff and mods, drink beer instead of water, making fun of the native guards and society "shit show" , heavily armoured 4x4, tight form fitting clothes .... pure war :D

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Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Postby shiv » 20 May 2017 14:01

Singha wrote:cool but aint going to happen in chandni chowk - the usual khan motto of unleashing maximum lead "downrange" :D
http://truthaboutguns-zippykid.netdna-s ... held-2.jpg

:rotfl: This is the sort of image that Indian jingos see and internalize before they get serious and come to places like BRF, after which they complain that Indians know nothing -Americans have handheld 12.5 mm 6 barrelled Gatlings

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Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Postby Prasad » 20 May 2017 14:30

OT but talking of maximum lead downrange - https://www.theatlantic.com/national/ar ... on/315967/
Cops shot 100+ bullets at a pickup thinking it was being ridden by a murder suspect.

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Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Postby Singha » 20 May 2017 14:52

the cult of the "warrior police" .
the US military has fed this machine by disposing off war surplus weapons and vehicles in large nos.
every self respecting police chief wants some stryker type "tactical vehicle" with bushmaster cannons, remote weapon stations, thermals, slat armour to tackle any "situation"

it finally ends in ridiculous scenes like these :rotfl:

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Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Postby rohitvats » 22 May 2017 19:56

There was a time when Para SF chaps were not seconded to NSG. The practice has stopped. Maybe, it has resumed again.

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Re: Discussion on Indian Special Forces

Postby vasu raya » 22 May 2017 22:47

During recent times there was a second time the EDI building in Pampore was used as shelter by terrorists and IA lost two Captains and one soldier I believe, and it was CQB


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