Some information on C-60 operations in Gadchiroli.atreya wrote:The newspapers are mentioning "C-60" commandos to tackle Naxalite insurgency. Can someone provide me with more information regarding this force?
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Some information on C-60 operations in Gadchiroli.atreya wrote:The newspapers are mentioning "C-60" commandos to tackle Naxalite insurgency. Can someone provide me with more information regarding this force?
Don't forget, we also have NSG around all the time.Nikhil T wrote:Are Mumbai's Force 1 commandoes good enough?
The 3 x 8-hr shifts are understandable because they want to maintain small enough numbers for the force as a whole and still be available within a short notice 24 x 7. For Mumbai, 212 commandoes is good enough.
IAF helicopters carrying combat commandos armed with snipers and assault rifles are likely to be roped in to keep a hawk-eye vigil over Delhi during the next year's Commonwealth Games.
The Home Ministry has approached the Defence Ministry to provide at least seven to eight helicopters for surveillance of the Delhi sky during the fortnight-long sporting event which will be attended by 8,000 athletes, 1,00,000 spectators and nearly 30 heads of states.
"We hope that the IAF helicopters will be available to us on time," a Home Ministry official said.
A request to the Defence Ministry has been sent as the Home Ministry choppers, which are with the BSF, have been made available to the Naxal-affected states.
The helicopters will be stationed at key locations in the capital and will be deployed whenever the security agencies feel it necessary.
However, Home Secretary G K Pillai had already said that as of now there was no specific terror threat to the sporting extravaganza.
Pillai had said India will take all necessary measures to ensure that mega sporting event passes off peacefully.
"On behalf of the organising committee and Sports Ministry and everybody in the government of India, we want to tell everyone that we are totally committed to secure and safe Commonwealth Games," he said.
As DD India reports, the Indian elite counter-terror force NSG is in the process of procuring a wide range of latest weaponry and gadgets including door busters, taking cue from its experience during the Mumbai terror attack.
Addressing commandos at their Garrison in Manesar, Union Home Minister P Chidambaram said, "the NSG is going to induct high-tech and sophisticated weapons in the coming days."
"Based on our experience in Mumbai, we have identified certain devices and gadgets like night sight equipment and door busters. We are procuring them," National Security Guard (NSG) Director-General N P S Aulakh told reporters.
The need of such new and high-end devices was felt by the force after the commandos carried out 'Operation Black Tornado' against terrorists in Mumbai who had entered luxury hotels and a residential complex (Nariman House).
The DG refuted reports of army's reluctance to sparing more officers for the force, saying "they are coming in phases and we are putting them on training. They also have shortage of officers, but they (army) are providing us with officers", Aulakh said.
The four new hubs of the force will also be "fully operational" by middle of December this year, he said.
While the hubs at Kolkata and Hyderabad would be upgraded to the level of regional centres with a strength of 5,000 men each, the other two hubs at Mumbai and Chennai will have 241 commandos each.
The Mumbai and Hyderabad hubs, having residential and training facilities, would start functioning by 30th November, while the hubs in Kolkata and Chennai would start operating by 15th December, Aulakh said.
Bomb disposal and detection squads will also be made operational soon at the new hubs which are working in association with respective state governments' units now, he added.
Earlier while delivering his speech during the silver jubilee celebrations of the NSG, Chidambaram said, "the NSG will grow as a potent force against terrorism. Every day, every week and every month we are adding to our capacity to deal with terror and defend India's honour, sovereignty and security."
Paying tributes to the martyrs of the force, he said "we also remember the supreme sacrifices of NSG commandos Major Sandeep Unnikrishnan and Hawildar Gajender Singh and the entire force who fought valiantly to neutralise the terrorists in Mumbai in November last year.”
The commandos presented a spectacular display of their firepower and skill as they recreated the scene of the Mumbai terror attacks.
Representative buildings like the Leopold cafe, Taj hotel, Nariman house and Cama hospital, attacked during the terror attacks, were designated for the commandos to showcase their techniques.
halligan tools probably.As DD India reports, the Indian elite counter-terror force NSG is in the process of procuring a wide range of latest weaponry and gadgets including door busters, taking cue from its experience during the Mumbai terror attack.
Hope they invest in other such tool for door opening, like MasterKey (basically a shortened shotgun) and CanOpener (a frame you attach to the door with small amount of plastique near the hinges). I have seen some really heavy doors and locking systems in India, especially at hotels and corporate offices... "Can you break through that door?" "Yeah, but breaking through the wall will be faster and safer".Rahul M wrote:halligan tools probably.As DD India reports, the Indian elite counter-terror force NSG is in the process of procuring a wide range of latest weaponry and gadgets including door busters, taking cue from its experience during the Mumbai terror attack.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclotrime ... initraminenitinr wrote:RDX = Royal Demolition Explosive
Hope I am not wrong...
There are many explanations for the name RDX, including (but not limited to) Royal Demolition eXplosive, Research Department (composition) X, Research Developed eXplosive,[7] and Research Department eXplosive. Research Department composition X is most likely correct.[4] In the United Kingdom, new military explosives were given an identification number preceded by the letters 'RD' indicating 'Research Department No.'.[4] For some reason, this explosive was unable to be given a number. Instead, the letter 'X' was appended to indicate 'unknown' with the intention of adding the number later.
there was a report from INDESEC that NSG were interested in Stunner ( a weapon similar to a Taser ).Dmurphy wrote:This news article says the NSGs have got some cutting edge tech gadgets and weapons but does not mention which one. Any idea what they are?
OK, thanks... so its cyclonite. Any help on IA's standard explosive charge?Rahul M wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclotrime ... initramine
Just bumping this from a few pages back, anyone know or could point me in the right direction?Mitu wrote:Hello all,
I am an active milsimmer, and my current project is to create an accurate impression of the modern Indian Para Commando. I've been able to locate information on the uniform and weaponry, but that's about it. I'm hoping someone can provide me with more insights on their other equipment, such as boots, load bearing equipment, magazine pouches, etc. (and also if these items can be purchased somewhere).
Thanks!
I doubt anybody on this forum even knows who Milsimmers are and I am stunned to know that there are milsimmers in India. I didnt know there were any casual players in India!Mitu wrote:Just bumping this from a few pages back, anyone know or could point me in the right direction?Mitu wrote:Hello all,
I am an active milsimmer, and my current project is to create an accurate impression of the modern Indian Para Commando. I've been able to locate information on the uniform and weaponry, but that's about it. I'm hoping someone can provide me with more insights on their other equipment, such as boots, load bearing equipment, magazine pouches, etc. (and also if these items can be purchased somewhere).
Thanks!
you can try Gopinath Market in Delhi...Mitu wrote:Ha, Im not in India, Im in the US. That's unfortunate about the lack of availability, thanks for the info!
Surprised that Bangalore is not a hub as well. According to this List of most populous cities in India, Bangalore is the third largest city after Mumbai and Delhi. It has larger population than Kolkata, Chennai, and Hyderabad.Dmurphy wrote:......
The four new hubs of the force will also be "fully operational" by middle of December this year, he said.
While the hubs at Kolkata and Hyderabad would be upgraded to the level of regional centres with a strength of 5,000 men each, the other two hubs at Mumbai and Chennai will have 241 commandos each.
The Mumbai and Hyderabad hubs, having residential and training facilities, would start functioning by 30th November, while the hubs in Kolkata and Chennai would start operating by 15th December, Aulakh said.
Bomb disposal and detection squads will also be made operational soon at the new hubs which are working in association with respective state governments' units now, he added.
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Srai,srai wrote: Surprised that Bangalore is not a hub as well. According to this List of most populous cities in India, Bangalore is the third largest city after Mumbai and Delhi. It has larger population than Kolkata, Chennai, and Hyderabad.
Dude I know what the concept of a "Metropolitan area" is. My question is about why Bangalore "Metro" area is not a NSG hub?ravi_ku wrote:Srai,srai wrote: Surprised that Bangalore is not a hub as well. According to this List of most populous cities in India, Bangalore is the third largest city after Mumbai and Delhi. It has larger population than Kolkata, Chennai, and Hyderabad.
They are municipal limits of city not an urban conglemoration.
Also aren't Garuds already stationed in B'luru??sum wrote:Politics?
K'taka being BJP ruled state and stuff....The other reason provided was there is already a TA SF battalion posted at all times in B'luru and hence, no need of NSG
Logically, the deployment of NSG is contingent on the threat perception faced by a metro rather than population count. Also, Chennai and Bangalore are close enough to each other to not warrant an additional deployment (distance between Bangalore and Chennai is 181 miles).srai wrote: Surprised that Bangalore is not a hub as well. According to this List of most populous cities in India, Bangalore is the third largest city after Mumbai and Delhi. It has larger population than Kolkata, Chennai, and Hyderabad.
and chennai has lot of foreign consulatesBrando wrote:Logically, the deployment of NSG is contingent on the threat perception faced by a metro rather than population count. Also, Chennai and Bangalore are close enough to each other to not warrant an additional deployment (distance between Bangalore and Chennai is 181 miles).srai wrote: Surprised that Bangalore is not a hub as well. According to this List of most populous cities in India, Bangalore is the third largest city after Mumbai and Delhi. It has larger population than Kolkata, Chennai, and Hyderabad.
Do IA SF train for the kinds of role that NSG do?Jonathan Allen wrote:Bangalore already has an Army Special Forces contingent. That is the Govt's position for not basing NSG there.
That's still quite a distance to cover for emergencies. Will they have a dedicated helicopter fleet to deploy to Bangalore quickly?Brando wrote:Logically, the deployment of NSG is contingent on the threat perception faced by a metro rather than population count. Also, Chennai and Bangalore are close enough to each other to not warrant an additional deployment (distance between Bangalore and Chennai is 181 miles).srai wrote: Surprised that Bangalore is not a hub as well. According to this List of most populous cities in India, Bangalore is the third largest city after Mumbai and Delhi. It has larger population than Kolkata, Chennai, and Hyderabad.
No one except Navy, practicing Sikhs, men on LRRP, medical cases... OK he doesn't appear to be any of those, but who knows the rules for various police forces that also contribute to the NSG? In any case if his CO appears to be OK with it and he keeps it neatly trimmed, whose business is it? More interested in the fact that he is carrying a Non-Glock... what is that all about?Gaur wrote:http://s698.photobucket.com/albums/vv34 ... nt=NSG.jpg I came across this pic on militaryphotos.net forum. It was captioned as NSG commando. But are NSG allowed to grow beards? I thought that no one except for NAVY allowed beards.
I am not whining about the beard. Just curious.ParGha wrote:No one except Navy, practicing Sikhs, men on LRRP, medical cases... OK he doesn't appear to be any of those, but who knows the rules for various police forces that also contribute to the NSG? In any case if his CO appears to be OK with it and he keeps it neatly trimmed, whose business is it? More interested in the fact that he is carrying a Non-Glock... what is that all about?Gaur wrote:http://s698.photobucket.com/albums/vv34 ... nt=NSG.jpg I came across this pic on militaryphotos.net forum. It was captioned as NSG commando. But are NSG allowed to grow beards? I thought that no one except for NAVY allowed beards.
Who do you think decides "the circumstances demand it"?Gaur wrote:I am not whining about the beard. Just curious. Anyways, you are wrong about it being CO's choice concerning a person's beard. Until and unless the circumstances demand it, no one, including CO, can grow a beard. At least that's how it is in IA. So the person in the pic should not belong to SAG. Of course, the beard may not be an issue in other paramilitary services. But I do not know much about that. That is why I was asking about the beard.
Well, IA is very strict on that matter.ParGha wrote:Who do you think decides "the circumstances demand it"?Gaur wrote:I am not whining about the beard. Just curious. Anyways, you are wrong about it being CO's choice concerning a person's beard. Until and unless the circumstances demand it, no one, including CO, can grow a beard. At least that's how it is in IA. So the person in the pic should not belong to SAG. Of course, the beard may not be an issue in other paramilitary services. But I do not know much about that. That is why I was asking about the beard.
Rahul M wrote:with all the institutes and research orgs there people would have thought there was a better case for b'lore than either chennai or hyderabad.