UAVs, Drones, Remote Surveillance Tech

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Re: UAVs, Drones, Remote Surveillance Tech

Postby Rakesh » 04 Feb 2020 00:53

https://twitter.com/hvtiaf/status/12243 ... 31875?s=20 ---> @hvtiaf Sir....here is a concept image of a possible HTFE25 powered HALE drone, something like the RQ4 Global Hawk. Does HAL plans to design such drones in near future?

https://twitter.com/hvtiaf/status/12243 ... 31875?s=20 ---> Yes definitely. Higher speed Drones.

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Postby Rakesh » 04 Feb 2020 01:10

Synergy among stakeholders must to power India’s UAV missions
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Postby Ankit Desai » 04 Feb 2020 01:39

Soon, tech that can aid forces in ‘beyond enemy lines’ operations

A special personnel tracker being developed for 'strategic use' holds the potential of aiding India’s armed forces sent on ‘beyond the enemy lines’ operations in the future, and the fact that the new technology is completely indigenous will mean more secrecy.

As part of its Indian Regional Navigation Satellite System (IRNSS), the Indian Space Research Organisation (Isro) has developed the technology for the said personnel tracker, and transferred the same to Defense PSU Bharat Electronics Limited (BEL).

This technology is not part of the regular chipsets or other receivers developed as part of IRNSS programme. This will be part of ‘Restricted Service’ (IRNSS-RS), developed specifically for strategic users of the country, a source from the department of space, said.

Isro has been quiet about this technology, which has been in the works for at least 18 months now. One official Isro document that partially explains this and other IRNSS-RS technologies, reads: “The IRNSS–RS provides location navigation service with anti-spoofing technology for authorized users. Personnel Tracker gives position information in TDMA mode of operation.”

TDMA or time-division multiple access mode — which separates users according to time — ensures that there will be no interference from simultaneous transmissions, while anti-spoofing technology prevents traffic from false sources (IP addresses).

In a written reply to TOI on whether it was developing a personnel tracker, BEL said: “BEL has signed an agreement with Isro for development of a two-way reporting terminal and personnel tracker based on IRNSS. The two-way reporting terminal will be used to track the position of fishing vessels and reporting emergencies. The personnel tracker will be a one way reporting terminal for reporting the position of person/vehicle based on IRNSS.”

Elaborating on this, sources said given that IRNSS covers the entire sub-continent region, if a team of armed forces personnel “were on a job on the other side (of the border), their commanders back home will know their exact position at all times.”

The Isro document further read: “The tracker supports small message as well as data transfer through satellite and USB/Bluetooth user data interface. This tracker will be used to track the person in the field of operation in situations like disaster rescue operation, surveillance etc.”

When asked a specific question on its uses in “beyond enemy lines” operations, Isro chairman K Sivan told TOI: “I don’t want to elaborate on this question as it is a strategic project.” On the benefits of tracking ships and personnel, he said: “It has complete strategic uses, we shouldn’t discuss it now.”

Sources said that the fact this technology would be working on completely indigenous technology, including the satellite used to get the location — longitude and latitude — makes it more suitable for such operations.

Before IRNSS, while India could, using its remote sensing satellites map areas of operation/s, it had to depend on foreign resources like the GPS for location and navigation services. “Now, the data will remain with us and only us,” another source said.

Apart from this technology, BEL, working jointly with Isro has developed a portable IRNSS Receiver for navigation applications. “As an offshoot of this programme, BEL has developed variants based on IRNSS-RS receiver functionality such as PTS (Precision Time Servers) in both rack mount and wall mount form factors and receivers with Map-based navigation application.”


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Postby Thakur_B » 04 Feb 2020 19:29

HAL ties up with IAI to manufacture Heron TP in India. RIP Tapas/Rustom.

HAL to make advanced armed UAVs with Israeli Co
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Re: UAVs, Drones, Remote Surveillance Tech

Postby manjgu » 04 Feb 2020 21:55

not a aerospace engineer but what fails me is ... we can design space rockets/satellites/Tejas / etc but cant make a UAV !! whats missing??

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Postby agupta » 04 Feb 2020 23:08

manjgu wrote:not a aerospace engineer but what fails me is ... we can design space rockets/satellites/Tejas / etc but cant make a UAV !! whats missing??



Really ? It's mysterious to me why this is so mysterious. Isn't it quite simple.. variation in competence. Don't we see it around us everywhere - especially in the public sector ?

Existence of islands of excellence/plenty does not imply every island is bountiful... does having AIIMS mean every government hospital has the same capability ? So having an ISRO does not imply that ADE will/can rise to a similar level... hell, having an ADA/HAL team firing on "all" cylinders (Tejas) did not correlate with their track record on HPT32RCA/IJT and only now they're crawling out of the deep hole with HTT-40 (fingers crossed)

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Postby Ankit Desai » 10 Feb 2020 23:57

Battle Cry | Why Does India Need Combat Drones? Ghatak - New armed drone on horizon.



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Re: UAVs, Drones, Remote Surveillance Tech

Postby sum » 17 Feb 2020 13:38

Any updates on any of the UAV programs since zilch news on any over these 1-2 years ?

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Postby Rakesh » 25 Feb 2020 06:34

https://twitter.com/livefist/status/123 ... 16352?s=20 ----> BIG: The President made it clear in his scripted speech today that armed drones requested by India are very much part of ‘dealings’ at present. India has asked for at least 10 Avenger/Predator C drones, turned down by the Obama Admin.

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Postby kit » 25 Feb 2020 15:53

Rakesh wrote:https://twitter.com/livefist/status/1231944195356516352?s=20 ----> BIG: The President made it clear in his scripted speech today that armed drones requested by India are very much part of ‘dealings’ at present. India has asked for at least 10 Avenger/Predator C drones, turned down by the Obama Admin.

looks like the deal is done, for 10+10+10, for each service in different configurations., but i do worry about spending nearly 200 million a pop (more than a fighter jet) when their survivability is in question against a well defended air space, we are not going after the mullahs or a rag tag militia.

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Re: UAVs, Drones, Remote Surveillance Tech

Postby Rony » 03 Mar 2020 20:12

X-post from Levent crises thread

In the Syrian civil war, Turkey is using its indigenous drones to target Syrian govt targets. Expect the Turks to export some of them to Pakis .

Turkey’s Killer Drone Swarm Poses Syria Air Challenge to Putin

Turkish drones – a 'game changer' in Idlib

Russian War Correspondent Sheds Light on Turkey's Drone Warfare in Idlib

Turkish drones being used in Syria reportedly include the TAI Anka family of drones, which have a weapons payload of up to 200 kg, as well as the Bayraktar TB2, a long-endurance UAV armed with anti-tank missiles.

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Postby Krishnakg » 04 Mar 2020 16:48

Turkish UAV's destroyed a Russian-made BUK-M2 (SA-17) medium-range air defense missile system as the regime attempted to pull it out of the conflict zone in Saraqib. https://t.co/H3jZ7QFBCQ

Earlier, Turkish armed UAV's destroyed another Russian-made Pantsir S1 (SA-22) air defense system which had an active radar in Serakib.

Turkish forces are definitely using armed drone swarms and electronic warfare effectively to control the large Idlib area. Noteworthy.

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Re: UAVs, Drones, Remote Surveillance Tech

Postby brar_w » 04 Mar 2020 21:35

Krishnakg wrote:Turkish UAV's destroyed a Russian-made BUK-M2 (SA-17) medium-range air defense missile system as the regime attempted to pull it out of the conflict zone in Saraqib. https://t.co/H3jZ7QFBCQ

Earlier, Turkish armed UAV's destroyed another Russian-made Pantsir S1 (SA-22) air defense system which had an active radar in Serakib.

Turkish forces are definitely using armed drone swarms and electronic warfare effectively to control the large Idlib area. Noteworthy.


Turkey is using relatively cheap small to medium sized drones in that theater which isn't something new or innovative (though it is for them). They are most definitely NOT using drone swarms or anything of that nature which is a technology and capability that is probably half a decade to a decade out (at that scale/capability) even for the most technologically advanced nations.

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Re: UAVs, Drones, Remote Surveillance Tech

Postby Krishnakg » 05 Mar 2020 22:42

They are most definitely NOT using drone swarms


I agree with you, in your correction of me using the word "drone swarm". Precisely defined, drone swarms are “multiple unmanned platforms and/or weapons deployed to accomplish a shared objective, with the platforms and/or weapons autonomously altering their behavior based on communication with one another" according to net sources.

What I was trying to communicate was that they are flying multiple drones (not autonomous or in sync with each other) simultaneously and continuously hitting the Syrian columns and convoys.


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