ramana wrote:I saw a show on Military Channel on Combat Rifles and that the old 7.62mm M-14 is making a come back due to its stopping power and range in Iraq and Afghanistan. The terrain :sand etc., make it necessary.
Hope all the Ishapores are not being de-militarized.
Looks like India has one system in three different calibers. The massa guys have three different vendors.Vidhwanshak
RayC saab, Can one of these take out a bunker shooting thru the slits?
An anti material Rifle can take down a bunker.
I have not seen it in action because by the time it was inducted into the Army, I had retired. But those who have used it, have said that it does bring down bunkers.
In so far as the arrays of calibres are being used for different weapons, it is a complex issue.
First of all it is the US political military industry nexus. They manufacture new theories and so a certain calibre is made popular the world over, including India; more so, India. With no disrespect to anyone, one can see the bright eyed exuberance that gets displayed in India over anything ‘foreign’ and cosmetically appealing. That enthusiasm is also displayed by the Weapons and Equipment Directorate and the DRDO. The WE Dte watches the glossies and writes up the GSQR and the DRDO is enthused and are ready to give India the moon, without realising that everyone cannot be Neil Armstrong! Thus, a mismatch. Thus, the delays. The op environment changes and new inputs have to be cranked in to the GSQR and the DRDO states that too can be done. The mess up of the Arjun Tank is a case in point. Take the case of VRDE. What extraordinary vehicles they have produced? This is not a J’Acuse, but what is the level of frustrations, both in the Services and the DRDO over indigenisation.
The next issue is the operational environment, psychology and the tactics followed which suggests the type of weapon an Army requires.
The US Army is very sensitive to body bags. That is why they want to take on the enemy at longer distances, even if accuracy is not there. That is why they use a sledge hammer to kill a fly. They can afford it since money is not their problem.
India does not replicate the US Army ethos and more so, to be frank, we cannot afford it financially. I don’t think in the near future India will do so. Another reason is that we have a long history of valour as our watchword and I am not talking of the colonial or the post Independence time, but way back in history. It may sound cruel and insensitive that one feels life is cheap, but then Namak, Nam, Nishan being the credo, sacrifice is inbuilt.
Our ethos and tactics, is based on the British credo (I don’t know if they still have it) that you keep your powder dry till you see the ‘whites of the eye’ of the enemy. This makes sense. Our terrain and the logistic system do not guarantee an endless supply of ammunition that gets replenished immediately there is a demand. On the post you have X amt of amn and while in an attack you have a Y amt of amn. You poop it off and there will be a lull and maybe the objective will not be seized. Waste of effort, lives, matériel and money!
Therefore, you require long distance weapons with stopping power of the 7.62 calibre or 12.7 (like the HMGs) that depletes the enemy and then medium distance enemy who are traversing the minefield carefully (who wants to die?!) and hence good targets and so 5.56 and then the Close Quarter battle weapons. It could be 9mm or 5.56. It is a myth that 5.56 does not kill at 300. Why do they not stand and prove it so? Theory is something and practice is another!
In attack, one has pouch ammunition and so if they finish off the ammunition at long distance without closing in the enemy, what will they fight the enemy with?
I will be frank. Show me a man in or without uniform who will want to die like a fool except the Islamic fundamentalists?