Someone always keeps deleting my messages without any follow-up.
I think some consider that BR forums are only their property and any views which don't sound the same note as theirs are deleted.
This is ridiculous and is not a behavior which projects democracy.
I have been a staunch follower of BR for almost 4-5 years as of now. Last year I had a email address which finally allowed me to join BR and I was so excited.
BUT I am very disappointed and I am quitting BR.
Newcomers beware, some guys in here consider these forums as their personal property.
Possible Indian Military Scenarios - XII
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Nothing against you are anyone.
Sometimes measures need to be taken to maintain quality of BRF contents. As a matter of fact, my post too got deleted sometimes (especially, when I wrote in half sleep)
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But, still I believe deleting post could be done consent of majority of mods, not unilaterally.
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Anyways!
Shankar baba darshan do!!
Nothing against you are anyone.
Sometimes measures need to be taken to maintain quality of BRF contents. As a matter of fact, my post too got deleted sometimes (especially, when I wrote in half sleep)
.But, still I believe deleting post could be done consent of majority of mods, not unilaterally.
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Anyways!
Shankar baba darshan do!!
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PLAN RED DRAFLIGHT – 3 X SU 27MKK -350 KM EAST OF COLOMBO
Hang Shu adjusted his straps once again –more out of habit than necessity. His flight has just veered off the international high altitude air corridor and now approaching Sri Lankan air defense identification zone . He was also on radio on silent mode so the others simply followed his navigation and he was flying on full auto pilot based on pre programmed flight path which will take him around Sri lanka and get him to the intercept zone south of the Island .He planned to switch on the radar to active only then –locate the Indian navy patrol aircraft –shoot it down and return to base –hopefully a promotion will await him if he can carry out the mission successfully and without any loss.
China and Russia began negotiations for the purchase of the Su-30MK multirole fighter in 1996 while the Su-30MK was still completing its final development. The initial deal of 38 aircraft valued at about US$2 billion was agreed upon in August 1999. On March 9, 1999, the first prototype named "Blue 501" made its maiden flight. On June 19, 1999, the second prototype named "Blue 502" made its maiden flight, and like the first prototype, this one was also used mainly for aerodynamic performance tests. No. 3 & No. 4 named respectively as "Blue 503" and "Blue 504" were built later that year and were mainly used for weaponry tests. All flight tests were conducted in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, with the second "K" of Su-30MKK representing Komsomolsk-on-Amur, instead of "Kitayski" for China. It was rumored that such security measure was performed under the Chinese request, and it was not until sometimes after August 15, 1999, after the Russian Air Force commander-in-chief had openly acknowledged to western reporters in public that China had ordered Su-30MKK, did the Russian changed their documentation to use the second "K" to indicate "Kitayski" for China. The variant specially configured according to the requirements of the People's Liberation Army Air Force was designated as the Su-30MKK. The Chinese requirements mandated significant upgrades of the original Su-30MK, and Sukhoi Design Bureau utilized many new resources such as CAD / CAE / CAM to speed up the process. According to the Sukhoi Design Bureau, it only took 9 months from the time the design started to the completion of the first prototype named "Blue 501". In January 2003, the People's Liberation Army Naval Air Force ordered 24 Su-30MKK2s which are improved variants of the original MKKs.
Like its Indian counterpart, Su-30MKI (Flanker-H), Su-30MKK is also shares 85% compatibility with Su-35 in terms of hardware, but in terms of software, Su-30MKK differs from Su-35 (Flanker-E) on a much greater scale in comparison to Su-30MKI because the different mission requirements by China. The Flanker family aircraft has the problem of the reduction of maximum g-force level being decreased to 7g from the 9g at speed between 0.7 Mach to 0.9 Mach, and this problem was completely solved on Su-30MKK by adopting new measures. According the Sukhoi Design Bureau, Su-30MKK is the first of the Flanker family to achieve so after Su-35 / 37 (Flanker-E/F). Higher percentage of composite material is used for Su-30MKK in comparison to the original Su-30MK. In addition, new aluminum alloy were used to replace the old type used on Su-30MK for weight reduction. The twin rudders mainly made of carbon fiber composite material were larger on Su-30MKK in comparison to that of the original Su-30MK, but contrary to what was once erroneously claimed by some western sources, Sukhoi Design Bureau revealed later that the increased space in the rudders were used for additional fuel tanks, instead of larger communication UHF antenna. The capacity of the fuel tanks in the wings is also increased. A twin nose landing gear of size 620 mm x 180 mm has replaced the single nose landing gear of size 680 mm x 260 mm used on Su-30MK to accommodate the increased weight. The maximum take-off weight and weapon load are increased to 38 tons and 12 tons respectively, but this extreme limit is often avoided by taking off at lighter weight. It was rumored that the Chinese pilots were not as experienced as Russian test pilots when operating at this extreme limits, which contributed to the crashes at least partially. The original K-36 ejection seat on Su-30MK is replaced by K-36M ejection seat for Su-30MKK.
IAF STATION CAR NIC –BAY OF BENGAL- 1130 HRS – SEA EAGLE FLIGHT
SEA EAGLE FLIGHT – 4 XMIG 29K
Commander Chauhan –signaled the ground crew as they connected up the starter cart and pushed in high pressure nitrogen to start the engines .First the port and then starboard .The RD 33 s started smoothly one by one as expected -the chokes were removed and all four fulcrums moved into taxi position two abreast .
-tower – sea eagle flight –request permission to taxi –over
-sea eagle lead – tower – cleared to taxi to hammer head –we have two Su-30 on finals –
-two flankers on finals –message understood tower – commencing taxi
Chauhan clicked off the main brake and the the Mig 29k moved smoothly forward even at idling speed and started accelerating –a touch of pressure on brake pad and she slowed down –align to taxi way center line –release brake and chauhan pushed up the collective throttle just one notch to eat up the long taxi way in a minute ,his three flight mates followed suite silently – navy pilot talk less specially when on operational mission .
As he turned into hammer head almost touching the white sand beaches of car nicobar
He could see in the distance the two IAF flankers from mainland turning in sharply and glide in for a land one after another flaring out just before touch down ,airbrakes fully deployed and the twin chutes deployed after the nose when touched down in awisp of blue smoke .
“Those air force guys are good –almost as good as us” thought Chauhan as he pushed the transmit button
-tower – sea eagle flight –standing by
- copy that sea eagle – rhino one and two – turn off the runway when able –you are holding up the traffic
- copy tower –rhino lead – we are heavy ( a code for carrying full weapon load and need more runway” ) – turning off now – came the calm voice of the flanker pilot wing commander Daljit
- sea eagle flight –tower –cleared for immediate take off –fly runway heading –climb to 8000 meters – use own navigation to sector sierra sierra – over
- cleared for take off – climb to 7k –sector sieara sierra – own navigation –over
The four Mig 29 K Jumped forward ,the nose dipped and after burner lit up and were in air in less than 700 ft of the 10000 ft runway . The flanker pilots watching the take off were impressed at the navy fliers as thet switched of their engines looked at the “baby flankers “flying of over the ocean
Hang Shu adjusted his straps once again –more out of habit than necessity. His flight has just veered off the international high altitude air corridor and now approaching Sri Lankan air defense identification zone . He was also on radio on silent mode so the others simply followed his navigation and he was flying on full auto pilot based on pre programmed flight path which will take him around Sri lanka and get him to the intercept zone south of the Island .He planned to switch on the radar to active only then –locate the Indian navy patrol aircraft –shoot it down and return to base –hopefully a promotion will await him if he can carry out the mission successfully and without any loss.
China and Russia began negotiations for the purchase of the Su-30MK multirole fighter in 1996 while the Su-30MK was still completing its final development. The initial deal of 38 aircraft valued at about US$2 billion was agreed upon in August 1999. On March 9, 1999, the first prototype named "Blue 501" made its maiden flight. On June 19, 1999, the second prototype named "Blue 502" made its maiden flight, and like the first prototype, this one was also used mainly for aerodynamic performance tests. No. 3 & No. 4 named respectively as "Blue 503" and "Blue 504" were built later that year and were mainly used for weaponry tests. All flight tests were conducted in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, with the second "K" of Su-30MKK representing Komsomolsk-on-Amur, instead of "Kitayski" for China. It was rumored that such security measure was performed under the Chinese request, and it was not until sometimes after August 15, 1999, after the Russian Air Force commander-in-chief had openly acknowledged to western reporters in public that China had ordered Su-30MKK, did the Russian changed their documentation to use the second "K" to indicate "Kitayski" for China. The variant specially configured according to the requirements of the People's Liberation Army Air Force was designated as the Su-30MKK. The Chinese requirements mandated significant upgrades of the original Su-30MK, and Sukhoi Design Bureau utilized many new resources such as CAD / CAE / CAM to speed up the process. According to the Sukhoi Design Bureau, it only took 9 months from the time the design started to the completion of the first prototype named "Blue 501". In January 2003, the People's Liberation Army Naval Air Force ordered 24 Su-30MKK2s which are improved variants of the original MKKs.
Like its Indian counterpart, Su-30MKI (Flanker-H), Su-30MKK is also shares 85% compatibility with Su-35 in terms of hardware, but in terms of software, Su-30MKK differs from Su-35 (Flanker-E) on a much greater scale in comparison to Su-30MKI because the different mission requirements by China. The Flanker family aircraft has the problem of the reduction of maximum g-force level being decreased to 7g from the 9g at speed between 0.7 Mach to 0.9 Mach, and this problem was completely solved on Su-30MKK by adopting new measures. According the Sukhoi Design Bureau, Su-30MKK is the first of the Flanker family to achieve so after Su-35 / 37 (Flanker-E/F). Higher percentage of composite material is used for Su-30MKK in comparison to the original Su-30MK. In addition, new aluminum alloy were used to replace the old type used on Su-30MK for weight reduction. The twin rudders mainly made of carbon fiber composite material were larger on Su-30MKK in comparison to that of the original Su-30MK, but contrary to what was once erroneously claimed by some western sources, Sukhoi Design Bureau revealed later that the increased space in the rudders were used for additional fuel tanks, instead of larger communication UHF antenna. The capacity of the fuel tanks in the wings is also increased. A twin nose landing gear of size 620 mm x 180 mm has replaced the single nose landing gear of size 680 mm x 260 mm used on Su-30MK to accommodate the increased weight. The maximum take-off weight and weapon load are increased to 38 tons and 12 tons respectively, but this extreme limit is often avoided by taking off at lighter weight. It was rumored that the Chinese pilots were not as experienced as Russian test pilots when operating at this extreme limits, which contributed to the crashes at least partially. The original K-36 ejection seat on Su-30MK is replaced by K-36M ejection seat for Su-30MKK.
IAF STATION CAR NIC –BAY OF BENGAL- 1130 HRS – SEA EAGLE FLIGHT
SEA EAGLE FLIGHT – 4 XMIG 29K
Commander Chauhan –signaled the ground crew as they connected up the starter cart and pushed in high pressure nitrogen to start the engines .First the port and then starboard .The RD 33 s started smoothly one by one as expected -the chokes were removed and all four fulcrums moved into taxi position two abreast .
-tower – sea eagle flight –request permission to taxi –over
-sea eagle lead – tower – cleared to taxi to hammer head –we have two Su-30 on finals –
-two flankers on finals –message understood tower – commencing taxi
Chauhan clicked off the main brake and the the Mig 29k moved smoothly forward even at idling speed and started accelerating –a touch of pressure on brake pad and she slowed down –align to taxi way center line –release brake and chauhan pushed up the collective throttle just one notch to eat up the long taxi way in a minute ,his three flight mates followed suite silently – navy pilot talk less specially when on operational mission .
As he turned into hammer head almost touching the white sand beaches of car nicobar
He could see in the distance the two IAF flankers from mainland turning in sharply and glide in for a land one after another flaring out just before touch down ,airbrakes fully deployed and the twin chutes deployed after the nose when touched down in awisp of blue smoke .
“Those air force guys are good –almost as good as us” thought Chauhan as he pushed the transmit button
-tower – sea eagle flight –standing by
- copy that sea eagle – rhino one and two – turn off the runway when able –you are holding up the traffic
- copy tower –rhino lead – we are heavy ( a code for carrying full weapon load and need more runway” ) – turning off now – came the calm voice of the flanker pilot wing commander Daljit
- sea eagle flight –tower –cleared for immediate take off –fly runway heading –climb to 8000 meters – use own navigation to sector sierra sierra – over
- cleared for take off – climb to 7k –sector sieara sierra – own navigation –over
The four Mig 29 K Jumped forward ,the nose dipped and after burner lit up and were in air in less than 700 ft of the 10000 ft runway . The flanker pilots watching the take off were impressed at the navy fliers as thet switched of their engines looked at the “baby flankers “flying of over the ocean
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PRIME MINISTERS OFFICE -NEW DELHI -1130 HRS
Indian interest in the Maldives chain of islands actual started in earnest 2008-9 period just about the time the Arihant was launched and consolidated in the next few years . Once Vikramaditya joined the fleet it was decided to actively control sea around the region though preliminary steps in that direction was started in 2009 .China did not like it but at the same time did have enough resources in the region to do anything sinster till the Su 30 MKK became fully operational with PLAN and time was ripe for a show of strength in the Indian Navy"back yard
Indian interest in the Maldives chain of islands actual started in earnest 2008-9 period just about the time the Arihant was launched and consolidated in the next few years . Once Vikramaditya joined the fleet it was decided to actively control sea around the region though preliminary steps in that direction was started in 2009 .China did not like it but at the same time did have enough resources in the region to do anything sinster till the Su 30 MKK became fully operational with PLAN and time was ripe for a show of strength in the Indian Navy"back yard
The soft spoken prime minister of India smiled as he put down the news paper and called his principal secretary to arrange a confidential meeting with the service chiefs .The signals coming from various sources on evantual Chinese intention in Indian ocean region were quite ominous and actions needed to be taken quickly on ground .NEW DELHI: As part of the overall strategy to prevent China from further spreading its influence in the Indian Ocean Region (IOR), India is
sending a squadron of Su30 aircraft to Maldives to help the country in maritime surveillance and protection from "pirates"
Defence ministry sources said an Indian Navy Dornier would begin its maritime reconnaissance missions from Male over the weekend. This comes in the backdrop of defence minister recent visit to Maldives, where he promised measures to bolster defence cooperation with Maldives.
Under the new plan, India will apparently help Maldives set up a network of ground radars in all its 26 atolls and link them with the Indian military surveillance systems.
Moreover, amid fears in Male that one of its island resorts could be taken over by terrorists, India will also provide Maldives with a couple of helicopters, as also help patrol its territorial waters with both warships and reconnaissance aircraft.
India has taken several steps to build bridges with IOR nations, which range from joint patrols with Indonesian and Sri Lankan navies and exercises with Singapore and Oman to providing seaward security for international summits in Mozambique.
Maldives, in particular, constitutes an important part of this strategy since China is making persistent moves in the region as part of its military diplomacy.
India, on its part, has always been willing to help Maldives in times of crisis. Indian paratroopers and naval warships, for instance, were rushed to Maldives in November 1988 by the Rajiv Gandhi government under Operation Cactus to thwart the coup attempt against the Abdul Gayoom government.
Indian naval and air patrols did not just extend upto Maldives but armed Tu 142 carried out regular sorties all the way to Johansburg and Kenya often escorted by long range Su 30 combat aircraft to provide maritime security in the region.
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Any updates coming?
No news of Mr. Ahuja. Hope he is in fine health
No news of Mr. Ahuja. Hope he is in fine health
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I am getting impression from news:
It looks like Pakistan soon collapse as a nation. Or at least there would collapse of powers which are holding another indo-pak conflict.
And, eastern front too getting hotter than ever before. (At least in media, if those news are not entirely wrong)
Possible Indian Military scenario in couple of years from now would look like something following:
Pakistan attacking India (with full overt backing/supplies by Chinese-which India cannot do a thing about)
Results:
1>Pakistan will be united once again. (History bears testimony to that facts, they got united after every war they fought)
2>India/Pakistan won't able to make any permanent advance beyond borders. (Nuclear card)
3>Chinese might able to encroach somewhat more of our land. (They will show their dominance)
4>US/UN will ask all party to resolve the issue with talks.
5>There will be internal fight between Indian FM and DM (though unlikely)
6>India backs down on thought of having more war causality and more, because Nehru philosophy is bed rock foundation of this administration.
7> Good news: Brahmos and SU30MKI would get their first real battle experience and that will dawn of a new age of warfare.
8> Total estimated causality, if both sides had sane leaders => less than 100
Otherwise, more than 100 thousands.
9> Benefiter: Pakistan and China, but real benefiter would be China and to some respect US too.
PS: Before jumping on me, think yourself what make you thinks above would NOT happen.
It looks like Pakistan soon collapse as a nation. Or at least there would collapse of powers which are holding another indo-pak conflict.
And, eastern front too getting hotter than ever before. (At least in media, if those news are not entirely wrong)
Possible Indian Military scenario in couple of years from now would look like something following:
Pakistan attacking India (with full overt backing/supplies by Chinese-which India cannot do a thing about)
Results:
1>Pakistan will be united once again. (History bears testimony to that facts, they got united after every war they fought)
2>India/Pakistan won't able to make any permanent advance beyond borders. (Nuclear card)
3>Chinese might able to encroach somewhat more of our land. (They will show their dominance)
4>US/UN will ask all party to resolve the issue with talks.
5>There will be internal fight between Indian FM and DM (though unlikely
) 6>India backs down on thought of having more war causality and more, because Nehru philosophy is bed rock foundation of this administration.
7> Good news: Brahmos and SU30MKI would get their first real battle experience and that will dawn of a new age of warfare.
8> Total estimated causality, if both sides had sane leaders => less than 100
Otherwise, more than 100 thousands.
9> Benefiter: Pakistan and China, but real benefiter would be China and to some respect US too.
PS: Before jumping on me, think yourself what make you thinks above would NOT happen.
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^^^ Without repeating any part of that...(don't have words to describe it) I just wish to ask you to get a hold of yourself. I can not imagine a situation that suits both China and the US.
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That was one of possibility. (it is a term which cannot be bound by one's imagination)
Possible benefit US could get: huge weapon market and may be a new NATO partner to take care of China in future. Remember, India will be far more submissive to US requests in such circumstances.
On flip side, US is not going to lose a singly penny by above mentioned Indo-pak enagement.
Possible benefit US could get: huge weapon market and may be a new NATO partner to take care of China in future. Remember, India will be far more submissive to US requests in such circumstances.
On flip side, US is not going to lose a singly penny by above mentioned Indo-pak enagement.
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A stable Pakistan is necessary for a better Afghan exit policy for US.Raveen wrote:^^^ Without repeating any part of that...(don't have words to describe it) I just wish to ask you to get a hold of yourself. I can not imagine a situation that suits both China and the US.
A stable Pakistan is necessary to control the Uighurs and to keep India hooked on its western front for China.
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Good catch jimmy...JimmyJ wrote:A stable Pakistan is necessary for a better Afghan exit policy for US.Raveen wrote:^^^ Without repeating any part of that...(don't have words to describe it) I just wish to ask you to get a hold of yourself. I can not imagine a situation that suits both China and the US.
A stable Pakistan is necessary to control the Uighurs and to keep India hooked on its western front for China.
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1. A stable Afghanistan is necessary for US exitJimmyJ wrote:A stable Pakistan is necessary for a better Afghan exit policy for US.Raveen wrote:^^^ Without repeating any part of that...(don't have words to describe it) I just wish to ask you to get a hold of yourself. I can not imagine a situation that suits both China and the US.
A stable Pakistan is necessary to control the Uighurs and to keep India hooked on its western front for China.
2. A stable Pakistan = India surrounded = weaker India
3. Weaker India = No reigonal counter balance for China
Therefore, similar to your lopsided analysis, I will conclude that the US wants a stable Afghanistan with close ties to India to surround Pakistan and make it weaker thus making China uncomfortable and letting India concentrate on China to the US's pleasure and advantage.
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World is a chess board. And for US, India is just one piece, not the chess board itself.Raveen wrote: 1. A stable Afghanistan is necessary for US exit
2. A stable Pakistan = India surrounded = weaker India
3. Weaker India = No reigonal counter balance for China
Therefore, similar to your lopsided analysis, I will conclude that the US wants a stable Afghanistan with close ties to India to surround Pakistan and make it weaker thus making China uncomfortable and letting India concentrate on China to the US's pleasure and advantage.
And later, whom will US look to counter India? SriLanka/Bangladesh/Maldives/Singapore/Afghanistan/China OR Pakistan
The world as we know was created before we existed and [may] continue to exist even after us. ColdWar, though the name may not be appropriate, occurs in small proportion in every corner of the world.
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Closet Nehrus; they don't need another nation to counter us.JimmyJ wrote:Raveen wrote: 1. A stable Afghanistan is necessary for US exit
2. A stable Pakistan = India surrounded = weaker India
3. Weaker India = No reigonal counter balance for China
Therefore, similar to your lopsided analysis, I will conclude that the US wants a stable Afghanistan with close ties to India to surround Pakistan and make it weaker thus making China uncomfortable and letting India concentrate on China to the US's pleasure and advantage.
And later, whom will US look to counter India?
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Closet Nehrus
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Awaiting updates on the scenarios... 
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Yes me too.
We cannot do any more fillers.
We cannot do any more fillers.
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Shankaroski Saar ! Please start raining fire on the enemy.
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amma bhai shankar kaha ho
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Mods please advice if there will be anyfurther scenarios rolling. Almost all scenorios tend not reach a conclusion. It trails to oblivion. The scenorio's had developed a nice fan following. Hope we are able to conclude the current scenarios.
Mr.Ahuja's scenarios were really good but now he seems to have gone missing.would have loved if he could take his scenarios to its conclusion.
Mr.Ahuja's scenarios were really good but now he seems to have gone missing.would have loved if he could take his scenarios to its conclusion.
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Yes Is there no one who can contact him and tell him how badly he is being missed here by every one of us.
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PLAN RED DRAGON FLIGHT – 3 X SU 27MKK -350 KM EAST OF COLOMBO
Hang Shu was not happy as the earphone came to life as he entered Sri Lankan air defense identification zone
- unidentified flight – Colombo centre – you are deviating from high altitude international air corridor – please identify your self and file a flight plan
Hang Shu did not respond – he did not want to identify himself over the open frequency but banked to port further to get out of islands long range air search radar net work supplied as he knew by Indians
And that was a mistake as he banked sharply to port ,his team mates followed suit and that moment all the close flying aircraft were sharply identified on the Colombo radar screen
- unidentified flight of three – please switch on your transponders – you are executing un authorized maneuvers close to international air corridors –you are required to land change course to 270 –reduce altitude to 10000 ft and tune to frequency 118.9 immediately
The 3 sukhois flew on –without change in course but as they moved out of Srilankan air defense zone –the air traffic controller lost immediate interest but as amattre of routine passed on the information air force liason officer siting in the next console who in turn forwarded the information to air headquarters.
INDIAN MILSAT 2 -35800 KM OVER EQUATOR
Unknown to either the Chinese or the Sri Lankan air traffic controller – each and every word exchanged between them was recorded –the on board data processor decided it is of importance “high” since the un identified aircraft did not have its identification transponder “on” and transmitted the recorded conversation back to earth station some where near Trichy
MIL SAT DATA RECEIVING STATION –TRICHY
Squadron leader tensed up as the red blinker on his console blinked red for a few seconds and the computer sucked in the data from the communication cum ELINT satellite nearly 36000 km up in the sky . One copy of the data was directly relayed to air headquarters and another to southern air command. Post 9/11 -26/11 IAF was obligated to pursue all un identified air contacts over ocean 24x7 .
CHENNAI INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT – SEA GUARD FLIGTH – 2X SU-30 MKI
In the underground hard shelter the small detachment of four Su-30 MKI was on 24x7 -5 min alert status essentially to guard the Chennai port from surprise terror strike from the ocean of to intercept any fishy un identified flight entering Indian air defense identification zone . The scramble horn blared and red light on roof blinked on and off
F/L Vikram jumped up and started putting on his kit quickly followed by squadron leader Amit as the ground crew connected up the starter kit .They were in the cock pit even before the 4 inch thick blast proof steel doors have fully opened
In the civilian terminal it was chaos as all incoming flights were put on holding pattern and outgoing flights to stop where they were .It took about 4 minutes to clear the air space for priority take off of the pair of flankers
- tower –sea guard flight – request priority take off clearance
- sea guard flight – air space is crowded – take of from runway 27 left – limit climb to 4000 meters till clear of class D air space – climb to higher altitude only on specific authorization
- copy that tower – commencing taxi run –
The blast doors opened right next to hammer head and quickly the flankers rotated into take off position for a formation take ,their wings laden with full internal fuel and only air to air weapons 4 RVV AE and rest R-73 latest version
- tower – sea guard flight –ready to roll
- sea guard flight – tower –cleared for immediate take off – fly runway heading – climb to 4000 meters – sky guard two should be in apposition to help you in 30 minutes –over
- copy tower –appreciate the assistance from sky guard two –rolling
Amit tightened his nomex glove straps ,looked back at his not much experienced wing man ,blinked his landing lights ,waited for 5 seconds before toeing off the brakes and pushing the collective all the way forward with only brief check at the reheat gate .
The flight computer took over, it sensed the urgency of mission and allowed higher than optimum fuel flow to the engines and the thrust of twin AL31 engines pushed the heavy aircraft faster and faster and in a matter of seconds it was in air . The second flanker was in air in les than 15 seconds after that and the beautiful pair or predators of the sky climbed steadily to 4000 meters,retracting the landing gears and flaps along the way .By the time they crossed the Indian coastline both were in clean flying configuration except of course the array of air to air missiles hanging from pylons and fuselage
Approximately 430 due east of their flight path the Phalcon was banking sharply to the designated new patrol zone off Colombo at maximum speed .Still it watched the flanker pair taking off and the mig 29 Ks flying off car nic air base approaching sri Lankan coast
Air commodore Mukherjee had the responsibility of synchronizing their flight and attack profiles to terminate the still elusive un identified flight some where near the southern coast of Sri Lanka
Hang Shu was not happy as the earphone came to life as he entered Sri Lankan air defense identification zone
- unidentified flight – Colombo centre – you are deviating from high altitude international air corridor – please identify your self and file a flight plan
Hang Shu did not respond – he did not want to identify himself over the open frequency but banked to port further to get out of islands long range air search radar net work supplied as he knew by Indians
And that was a mistake as he banked sharply to port ,his team mates followed suit and that moment all the close flying aircraft were sharply identified on the Colombo radar screen
- unidentified flight of three – please switch on your transponders – you are executing un authorized maneuvers close to international air corridors –you are required to land change course to 270 –reduce altitude to 10000 ft and tune to frequency 118.9 immediately
The 3 sukhois flew on –without change in course but as they moved out of Srilankan air defense zone –the air traffic controller lost immediate interest but as amattre of routine passed on the information air force liason officer siting in the next console who in turn forwarded the information to air headquarters.
INDIAN MILSAT 2 -35800 KM OVER EQUATOR
Unknown to either the Chinese or the Sri Lankan air traffic controller – each and every word exchanged between them was recorded –the on board data processor decided it is of importance “high” since the un identified aircraft did not have its identification transponder “on” and transmitted the recorded conversation back to earth station some where near Trichy
MIL SAT DATA RECEIVING STATION –TRICHY
Squadron leader tensed up as the red blinker on his console blinked red for a few seconds and the computer sucked in the data from the communication cum ELINT satellite nearly 36000 km up in the sky . One copy of the data was directly relayed to air headquarters and another to southern air command. Post 9/11 -26/11 IAF was obligated to pursue all un identified air contacts over ocean 24x7 .
CHENNAI INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT – SEA GUARD FLIGTH – 2X SU-30 MKI
In the underground hard shelter the small detachment of four Su-30 MKI was on 24x7 -5 min alert status essentially to guard the Chennai port from surprise terror strike from the ocean of to intercept any fishy un identified flight entering Indian air defense identification zone . The scramble horn blared and red light on roof blinked on and off
F/L Vikram jumped up and started putting on his kit quickly followed by squadron leader Amit as the ground crew connected up the starter kit .They were in the cock pit even before the 4 inch thick blast proof steel doors have fully opened
In the civilian terminal it was chaos as all incoming flights were put on holding pattern and outgoing flights to stop where they were .It took about 4 minutes to clear the air space for priority take off of the pair of flankers
- tower –sea guard flight – request priority take off clearance
- sea guard flight – air space is crowded – take of from runway 27 left – limit climb to 4000 meters till clear of class D air space – climb to higher altitude only on specific authorization
- copy that tower – commencing taxi run –
The blast doors opened right next to hammer head and quickly the flankers rotated into take off position for a formation take ,their wings laden with full internal fuel and only air to air weapons 4 RVV AE and rest R-73 latest version
- tower – sea guard flight –ready to roll
- sea guard flight – tower –cleared for immediate take off – fly runway heading – climb to 4000 meters – sky guard two should be in apposition to help you in 30 minutes –over
- copy tower –appreciate the assistance from sky guard two –rolling
Amit tightened his nomex glove straps ,looked back at his not much experienced wing man ,blinked his landing lights ,waited for 5 seconds before toeing off the brakes and pushing the collective all the way forward with only brief check at the reheat gate .
The flight computer took over, it sensed the urgency of mission and allowed higher than optimum fuel flow to the engines and the thrust of twin AL31 engines pushed the heavy aircraft faster and faster and in a matter of seconds it was in air . The second flanker was in air in les than 15 seconds after that and the beautiful pair or predators of the sky climbed steadily to 4000 meters,retracting the landing gears and flaps along the way .By the time they crossed the Indian coastline both were in clean flying configuration except of course the array of air to air missiles hanging from pylons and fuselage
Approximately 430 due east of their flight path the Phalcon was banking sharply to the designated new patrol zone off Colombo at maximum speed .Still it watched the flanker pair taking off and the mig 29 Ks flying off car nic air base approaching sri Lankan coast
Air commodore Mukherjee had the responsibility of synchronizing their flight and attack profiles to terminate the still elusive un identified flight some where near the southern coast of Sri Lanka
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WebForum Gurus,
It would help if comments and suggestions ignored by Shankarvosy were moved to a separate thread as was done with Dileepan's Spy Story-2.
It would help if comments and suggestions ignored by Shankarvosy were moved to a separate thread as was done with Dileepan's Spy Story-2.
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Shankar ji -Looking forward for updates to spend the weekend.
Ahuja Saab where are you?
Ahuja Saab where are you?
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Sad day we find you in the second page what happend sirs
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Shankar bhai, either you write a scenario book, we would (at least I) would super gladly buy. Don't worry about finding a publisher, write in pdf or ebook we shall buy that (guaranteed won't do piracy or illegal re-distribution).
That is reward or encouragement I can think off for yourself putting your valuable time in writing/thinking scenarios for us and you deserve that.
OR please try to write scenarios here once in a week or two time frame.
BUT, please don't keep us waiting in anticipation for so long... I believe, every time few brain cells of mine dies when I open this bookmarked thread and see no new post from you or Vivek.
Forgive my analogy, "Drug addicts resort to irrational behavior if all of sudden drugs are taken away from them".
That is reward or encouragement I can think off for yourself putting your valuable time in writing/thinking scenarios for us and you deserve that.
OR please try to write scenarios here once in a week or two time frame.
BUT, please don't keep us waiting in anticipation for so long... I believe, every time few brain cells of mine dies when I open this bookmarked thread and see no new post from you or Vivek.
Forgive my analogy, "Drug addicts resort to irrational behavior if all of sudden drugs are taken away from them".
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C'mon guys post something. Din ko Khana hajham nahi ho raha, raat ko neend nahi aa rahi.
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Shankarda... waiting for the Mig Vs Sukhoi face off... please give us a dose of the high octane action soon... I can't seem to able to take this off my head..
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I wonder, after realizing they are outnumbered, if Chinese would request reenforcement from Pakistan (Karachi) to scare Migs away. It would be easier since shooting war hasn't started yet.
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Where are you dada's both are not seen here for a long time. Are you people ok there ?
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Does anyone live/work near by Shankar or Vivek?
We can launch a massive manhunt.
We can launch a massive manhunt.
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I strongly suspect the gubarmand has read the riot act to them for inflaming passion and aggravating the situation with padosis. We r very peaceful onree. No need for mil adventures. Very provocative
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It's been so long, I've gotten over my withdrawal symptoms now. 
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SEA EAGLE FLIGHT – BAY OFF BENGAL APPROACHING SRI LANKAN AIR DEFENSE ZONE
Commander Chauhan reclined hard on his 36k ejection seat as he put the aircraft on a course parallel to Indian coast line and approached the srilankan air defense zone .He confirmed the IFF transponder was on and that he hoped will alert the sri lankan air defense group located north of the island based on the out skirts of Jaffna his identity and will not ask too many questions as he planned to skirt their air space .
The things changed and changed very quick
The red flasher blinked on and stayed on indicating he must hook on to the sat net As well as southern command tactical net at once and an emergency of some kind has developed
As he leaned forward to change the selected inter plane frequency to command frequency and open another repeater channel to other fulcrums in the formation he decided to loose height and become as less visible as possible .Easing back on the power he angled the nose down with slight pressure on the control column .The bird responded immediately and effortlessly as she settled in to a 15 degree nose dive at 560 knots quickly eating the vertical space and reaching the wave tops at less than 100 ft . Chauhan leveled off at 80 ft ,increased power setting to 85% military power and the twin engines revved up smoothly stabilizing the indicated air speed to nearly 1050 kmph at near sea level
-BLUE WATCH FLIGHT – 1X A-50 BARIEV PHALCON + 2 SU 30 MKI
Air commodore Mukeherjee was concerned at the developing situation .The three PLA sukhois were on a possible intercept path to the navy patrol aircraft and none of the Mig 29K s were anywhere close to provide effective cover to the lumbering turbo prop and worst is all of them were in international air space .He looked at the over head master display once again and then spoke on the throat mike to individual sector controllers on board
- everybody to battle station
- get the bhalu off the intercept track of chine flankers –now –tell the 29 s to change course and place themselves behind the bear – get one tanker on air from nearest base now to support the 29s on return – alert Vick for possible emergency situation – get the sukhois to join the 29 at best speed
And the sector controllers cleaned up the desk and leaned over their individual large screen consoles and started issuing orders The stage was now being set for a swift naval air confrontation over the Indian ocean for the first time in history
Commander Chauhan reclined hard on his 36k ejection seat as he put the aircraft on a course parallel to Indian coast line and approached the srilankan air defense zone .He confirmed the IFF transponder was on and that he hoped will alert the sri lankan air defense group located north of the island based on the out skirts of Jaffna his identity and will not ask too many questions as he planned to skirt their air space .
The things changed and changed very quick
The red flasher blinked on and stayed on indicating he must hook on to the sat net As well as southern command tactical net at once and an emergency of some kind has developed
As he leaned forward to change the selected inter plane frequency to command frequency and open another repeater channel to other fulcrums in the formation he decided to loose height and become as less visible as possible .Easing back on the power he angled the nose down with slight pressure on the control column .The bird responded immediately and effortlessly as she settled in to a 15 degree nose dive at 560 knots quickly eating the vertical space and reaching the wave tops at less than 100 ft . Chauhan leveled off at 80 ft ,increased power setting to 85% military power and the twin engines revved up smoothly stabilizing the indicated air speed to nearly 1050 kmph at near sea level
Four MiG-29K ship-borne fighters developed for the Indian Navy have been successfully flight tested onboard a Russian aircraft carrier.
"During the tests on September 28-29, the MiG-29K and MiG-29KUB (trainer) fighters conducted several landings and take offs on the deck of the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier in the Barents Sea," the MiG Corporation said.
Admiral Kuznetsov is the only aircraft carrier in service with the Russian Navy.
The flight tests were carried out prior to the delivery of these fighters to India. Though, the retrofit of the aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov is delayed, the delivery of MiG-29K and their trainer version is on schedule.
The deck landing and take-off, the most crucial element of the carrier borne fighters' flight, were performed by the MiG Corporation's team of test pilots in the presence of the Indian naval officials on board Russia's carrier.
The first two MiG-29Ks and two MiG-29KUBs already tested on the carrier were officially transferred to India earlier this year and are being used for a five-month flight training course for the Indian naval pilots.
The Gorshkov deal includes the supply of 12 single- seater MiG-29Ks and four two-seater trainer MiG-29KUB.
India and Russia are yet to reach a final agreement on the upgradation cost of Kiev class carrier to be inducted by the Indian Navy and a decision could be made during Defence Minister A K Anthony's Moscow visit next month.
-BLUE WATCH FLIGHT – 1X A-50 BARIEV PHALCON + 2 SU 30 MKI
Air commodore Mukeherjee was concerned at the developing situation .The three PLA sukhois were on a possible intercept path to the navy patrol aircraft and none of the Mig 29K s were anywhere close to provide effective cover to the lumbering turbo prop and worst is all of them were in international air space .He looked at the over head master display once again and then spoke on the throat mike to individual sector controllers on board
- everybody to battle station
- get the bhalu off the intercept track of chine flankers –now –tell the 29 s to change course and place themselves behind the bear – get one tanker on air from nearest base now to support the 29s on return – alert Vick for possible emergency situation – get the sukhois to join the 29 at best speed
And the sector controllers cleaned up the desk and leaned over their individual large screen consoles and started issuing orders The stage was now being set for a swift naval air confrontation over the Indian ocean for the first time in history
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Welcome back Shankar saar!
We were waiting for your posts for long time.
I really enjoy reading your scenarios.
We were waiting for your posts for long time.
I really enjoy reading your scenarios.
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Well come back Shankar. This is just the Starters. Please serve the main course ASAP. Got a long weekend.
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OCEAN WATCH FLIGHT -1XTU 142- 375 KM DUE WEST OF SRI LANKAN COAST
Commander Dixit checked the LCD screen once again . So far everything was normal and he expected to be over Male in few hours time ,make a quick circuit of the island maybe help the Indian air defenses in the region re calibrate their radars and check the oceans around for any suspicious activity and thn head back home the same way with a slight detour over the Laswadeep chainof islands just to keep everything in correct perspective .After 26/11 keeping close watch over the island territories have become top most priority for the navy . The speaker phone crackled to life with his call sign and Dixit knew some thing was wrong .Normally no one contacts a long range patrol aircraft on duty except in dire emergency
- ocean watch –blue watch – copy signal strength ok – came in the voice of air battle commander from Phalcon hundreds of mile away some where over the souther tip of India via the dedicated encrypted satellite data link through INSAT -4E
- Blue watch –ocean watch –stand by – increasing gain –signal weak
- Copy that ocean watch watch
- Ok blue watch – go ahead ,said Dixit as he finished clicking up the gain control to maximum and double checked his de encryptation software is up and running
- Ocean watch – we have a situation in your region – possible 3 Su 30 mkk from PLAN on intercept course –not sure of their intention – so change course immediately to 270 and max speed –maintain current altitude for the time being – escorts under way but may take some time – till then you are on your own –try to keep out of their R-77 missile range – stay on this frequency till further notice
Commander Dixit acted quickly as he put the massive four engined patrol aircraft on a steep diving bank to starboard and watched the heading indicating display change quickly as the aircraft came on to her new escape heading and the four massive turbo props spooled up to maximum revolution and the indicated air speed picked up close to 530 knots .There was very little time left
Commander Dixit checked the LCD screen once again . So far everything was normal and he expected to be over Male in few hours time ,make a quick circuit of the island maybe help the Indian air defenses in the region re calibrate their radars and check the oceans around for any suspicious activity and thn head back home the same way with a slight detour over the Laswadeep chainof islands just to keep everything in correct perspective .After 26/11 keeping close watch over the island territories have become top most priority for the navy . The speaker phone crackled to life with his call sign and Dixit knew some thing was wrong .Normally no one contacts a long range patrol aircraft on duty except in dire emergency
- ocean watch –blue watch – copy signal strength ok – came in the voice of air battle commander from Phalcon hundreds of mile away some where over the souther tip of India via the dedicated encrypted satellite data link through INSAT -4E
- Blue watch –ocean watch –stand by – increasing gain –signal weak
- Copy that ocean watch watch
- Ok blue watch – go ahead ,said Dixit as he finished clicking up the gain control to maximum and double checked his de encryptation software is up and running
- Ocean watch – we have a situation in your region – possible 3 Su 30 mkk from PLAN on intercept course –not sure of their intention – so change course immediately to 270 and max speed –maintain current altitude for the time being – escorts under way but may take some time – till then you are on your own –try to keep out of their R-77 missile range – stay on this frequency till further notice
Commander Dixit acted quickly as he put the massive four engined patrol aircraft on a steep diving bank to starboard and watched the heading indicating display change quickly as the aircraft came on to her new escape heading and the four massive turbo props spooled up to maximum revolution and the indicated air speed picked up close to 530 knots .There was very little time left
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The Tu-142 is the maritime reconnaissance/strike version of the Tu-95 which served as a Russian nuclear weapons capable bomber and is the fastest and highest flying turboprop aircraft in the world. The aircraft's long range (can fly from Bombay to Johannesburg, South Africa and back without refuelling) combined with its heavy payload of 20,000 lbs. is a valuable asset to the Indian Navy's ASW and MR capability. The aircraft is fondly called the Albatross because of the massive wingspan of the aircraft. Also known as the Sentinel of the Ocean, this aircraft can remain airborne for sixteen hours. Negotiations were reportedly on with Rosoboronexport (Russia's Federal State Unitary Enterprise which is responsible for arms exports to foreign nations) to procure six to eight more Tu-142s from refurbished ex-VVS storage stocks. However with the tragic mid-air crash of a pair of IL-38s in October 2002, the Indian Navy shifted her attention to acquire additional IL-38s to overcome the loss and therefore acquisition of additional Tu-142s seems unlikely. The Tu-142s operate from INS Rajali (East) and INS Hansa (West) for regular, long range patrols into the Bay of Bengal and the Arabian Sea.
Defense News reported in March 2004 that the Indian Navy had requested new avionics and electronic warfare suites for the Tu-142, for the detection and interception of surface vessels and submarines within a range of 150 kilometres, as well as the capability to detect mines and carry out long-range and long-endurance surveillance. The upgrade is also expected to enable the aircraft to be linked to the Indian satellite navigation system and be fitted with an observation system that will work in night and day. The primary ambition of the upgrade is to conduct maritime patrol missions and forge a linkage between India's nuclear command center and its futuristic nuclear submarine. The upgrade will further enable the aircraft to carry air-launched versions of the Klub and BrahMos ASCMs.
In the same March 2004 report, Defense News reported that the Indian Navy had approached Rosoboronexport in November 2003 to upgrade their fleet of Tu-142s for a cost no more than USD $555.5 million. However the proposal put forward by Rosoboronexport to upgrade these aircraft with the Morskoy Zmei (Sea Dragon) multi-mission avionics and electronic warfare suite was rejected. The primary reasons were reportedly system performance issues and an exorbitant price tag, listed at USD $888.9 million by Rosoboronexport. In January 2004, a team of Indian Naval Aviation pilots visited Russia to evaluate a Sea Dragon-equipped Tu-142 aircraft. However the Sea Dragon suite failed to meet essential parameters and its detection capabilities were found inadequate. In February 2004, the Indian Navy approached Rosoboronexport again to have Israeli firms collaborate with Russian firms to customise a MMA and EW suite. However that proposal was rejected by Rosoboronexport, on the basis that the upgrade would have to be wholly Russian and must include the Sea Dragon suite.
Again from the same March 2004 report, Defense News reported that the Indian Navy then turned directly towards Israeli firms for the upgrade and that the Ministry of Defence would issue two individual RFPs (Requests For Proposals) to Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI) and Elbit Systems to tailor a MMA and EW suite for the Tu-142 fleet. The RFPs are expected to be issued by the MoD in April 2004 and proposals are expected to be due within three months. This upgrade is expected to wholly revamp the Tu-142 into a modern maritime recon and electronic warfare aircraft. It is assumed that this has already taken place. By early 2004, the IN had reportedly completed with the refit of a Tu-142M (IN 315) with the Elta EL/M-2022A (V3) radar. The radar replaced the Leninets Korschun system and a comprehensive ELINT and COMINT package, with nose and fuselage mounted V/UHF antennae and an underfuselage P-band antenna farm, was also incorporated. This upgrade is similar to the upgrade package of the IN's Do-228s and features additional SATCOM, ELINT and EW equipment. It would be interesting to compare the capabilities of the Russian warfare suite with its Israeli counterpart, as the IL-38s are to be upgraded with the Sea Dragon suite.
Interfax-AVN reported in Sept 2004, that the Taganrog Aviation Company (Tavia) was implementing a contract for the repair of a Tu-142ME aircraft of the Indian Navy. Tavia Director General Nikolai Savitskikh stated on 21 Sept 2004, "Another Indian plane of this type is currently under repairs at the aircraft plant. According to the schedule, the enterprise must annually repair one Indian Tu-142ME." He also stated that the enterprise was only repairing the Indian aircraft, not upgrading them. "Eight Tu-142MEs were supplied to India in 1987-1988. They are repaired in turns, all of them have been repaired once and are now up for the second repairs," the Director General said. Repairs of both Russian and Indian Tu-142 planes provide for most of the company's workload, he stated.
Defense News reported in March 2004 that the Indian Navy had requested new avionics and electronic warfare suites for the Tu-142, for the detection and interception of surface vessels and submarines within a range of 150 kilometres, as well as the capability to detect mines and carry out long-range and long-endurance surveillance. The upgrade is also expected to enable the aircraft to be linked to the Indian satellite navigation system and be fitted with an observation system that will work in night and day. The primary ambition of the upgrade is to conduct maritime patrol missions and forge a linkage between India's nuclear command center and its futuristic nuclear submarine. The upgrade will further enable the aircraft to carry air-launched versions of the Klub and BrahMos ASCMs.
In the same March 2004 report, Defense News reported that the Indian Navy had approached Rosoboronexport in November 2003 to upgrade their fleet of Tu-142s for a cost no more than USD $555.5 million. However the proposal put forward by Rosoboronexport to upgrade these aircraft with the Morskoy Zmei (Sea Dragon) multi-mission avionics and electronic warfare suite was rejected. The primary reasons were reportedly system performance issues and an exorbitant price tag, listed at USD $888.9 million by Rosoboronexport. In January 2004, a team of Indian Naval Aviation pilots visited Russia to evaluate a Sea Dragon-equipped Tu-142 aircraft. However the Sea Dragon suite failed to meet essential parameters and its detection capabilities were found inadequate. In February 2004, the Indian Navy approached Rosoboronexport again to have Israeli firms collaborate with Russian firms to customise a MMA and EW suite. However that proposal was rejected by Rosoboronexport, on the basis that the upgrade would have to be wholly Russian and must include the Sea Dragon suite.
Again from the same March 2004 report, Defense News reported that the Indian Navy then turned directly towards Israeli firms for the upgrade and that the Ministry of Defence would issue two individual RFPs (Requests For Proposals) to Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI) and Elbit Systems to tailor a MMA and EW suite for the Tu-142 fleet. The RFPs are expected to be issued by the MoD in April 2004 and proposals are expected to be due within three months. This upgrade is expected to wholly revamp the Tu-142 into a modern maritime recon and electronic warfare aircraft. It is assumed that this has already taken place. By early 2004, the IN had reportedly completed with the refit of a Tu-142M (IN 315) with the Elta EL/M-2022A (V3) radar. The radar replaced the Leninets Korschun system and a comprehensive ELINT and COMINT package, with nose and fuselage mounted V/UHF antennae and an underfuselage P-band antenna farm, was also incorporated. This upgrade is similar to the upgrade package of the IN's Do-228s and features additional SATCOM, ELINT and EW equipment. It would be interesting to compare the capabilities of the Russian warfare suite with its Israeli counterpart, as the IL-38s are to be upgraded with the Sea Dragon suite.
Interfax-AVN reported in Sept 2004, that the Taganrog Aviation Company (Tavia) was implementing a contract for the repair of a Tu-142ME aircraft of the Indian Navy. Tavia Director General Nikolai Savitskikh stated on 21 Sept 2004, "Another Indian plane of this type is currently under repairs at the aircraft plant. According to the schedule, the enterprise must annually repair one Indian Tu-142ME." He also stated that the enterprise was only repairing the Indian aircraft, not upgrading them. "Eight Tu-142MEs were supplied to India in 1987-1988. They are repaired in turns, all of them have been repaired once and are now up for the second repairs," the Director General said. Repairs of both Russian and Indian Tu-142 planes provide for most of the company's workload, he stated.
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SEA EAGLE FLIGHT 4XMIG 29K– BAY OFF BENGAL APPROACHING SRI LANKAN AIR DEFENSE ZONE
Commander Chauhan tensed up a bit as he realized he may be entering live air combat that too over the open ocean with a superior enemy . He also knew back up is under way and he had under him one of the most Agile air superiority aircraft with avionics so advanced and powerful that may not be disclosed even in a fiction . But is was there the powerful 1056 element Zhuk ME radar capable of detecting a fighter size target at a distance of 200 km plus and tracking and launching weapons at it at the best range that is nearly 100 km away and the capability matched that of PLAN Su 30 MKK he may be confronting shortly .
He decided to approach from the blind angle of the sukhois and very close to the ocean surface to mask his approach. Surprise he knew was the key to victory when you are on the offensive against a more heavily armed opponent .The encrypted rado came to life
- sea eagle –blue watch you are now under my direct control till final attack vector is established
- copy that sea watch – we are under your active control –like to maintain present altitude –just give new heading and speed
- that is affirmative sea eagle –maintain present altitude –change course to 042 increase speed to 1400 km/hr –maintain speed till you are out of sri lanka air defense identification zone – we shall be placing you between the PLAN flankers and navy bear - stop the flankers from firing off at the bear at any cost repeat any cost –over
- copy that sea watch –changing course to 042 now –maintaining present cruise altitude till in attack zone over
The four Mig 29K formed up close in a tight diamond formation and then lit their after burner and rocketed forward over the blue wave tops in a trail of blazing fire as the sonic book reflected off the oceans surface and made a halo all around
Commander Chauhan tensed up a bit as he realized he may be entering live air combat that too over the open ocean with a superior enemy . He also knew back up is under way and he had under him one of the most Agile air superiority aircraft with avionics so advanced and powerful that may not be disclosed even in a fiction . But is was there the powerful 1056 element Zhuk ME radar capable of detecting a fighter size target at a distance of 200 km plus and tracking and launching weapons at it at the best range that is nearly 100 km away and the capability matched that of PLAN Su 30 MKK he may be confronting shortly .
He decided to approach from the blind angle of the sukhois and very close to the ocean surface to mask his approach. Surprise he knew was the key to victory when you are on the offensive against a more heavily armed opponent .The encrypted rado came to life
- sea eagle –blue watch you are now under my direct control till final attack vector is established
- copy that sea watch – we are under your active control –like to maintain present altitude –just give new heading and speed
- that is affirmative sea eagle –maintain present altitude –change course to 042 increase speed to 1400 km/hr –maintain speed till you are out of sri lanka air defense identification zone – we shall be placing you between the PLAN flankers and navy bear - stop the flankers from firing off at the bear at any cost repeat any cost –over
- copy that sea watch –changing course to 042 now –maintaining present cruise altitude till in attack zone over
The four Mig 29K formed up close in a tight diamond formation and then lit their after burner and rocketed forward over the blue wave tops in a trail of blazing fire as the sonic book reflected off the oceans surface and made a halo all around
The Mikoyan MiG-29K (Russian: Микоян МиГ-29K) is an all-weather carrier-based multirole fighter aircraft developed in Russia. Developed in the late 1980s by the Mikoyan design bureau from the MiG-29M,[4] the MiG-29K's NATO reporting name is Fulcrum-D.
The MiG-29K production model differs from the 1991-built MiG-29K by featuring a new multi-function radar, dubbed Zhuk-ME; a cabin with multifunctional color displays and use of the HOTAS (hands-on-throttle-and-stick) principle; the RVV-AE air-to-air active homing missiles; R-27ER/ET; anti ship and antiradar missiles; as well as air-to-ground precision-guided weapons
MiG-29K was not ordered into production and only two prototypes were originally built as the Russian Navy preferred the Su-27K in early 1990s. The Mikoyan Design Bureau did not stop its work on the MiG-29K aircraft despite the lack of financing since 1992. The programme got boost in the late 1990s to meet an Indian requirement for a ship-borne fighter following the purchase of a former Soviet aircraft Carrier. It was first received by the Indian Navy in 2009.[ The MiG-29K multirole carrier-based fighter is designed to air cover the ship grouping, gain air superiority and destroy sea surface and ground targets with guided high-precision weapons, day and night, in any weather. The aircraft is optimized for deployment on carriers of medium water displacement.
The MiG-29KUB two-seat carrier-based fighter is intended for pilot training as well as fulfillment of combat missions identical to those of the MiG-29K single-seat fighter
During its tests aboard the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft-carrying cruiser, the aircraft had a springboard-assisted takeoff from strips 195 m and 95 m long. According to the results of the tests, the landing accuracy proved to be very high, which made it possible at a later stage to switch over to a three-cable arrester system on the Admiral Gorshkov.The landing accuracy is additionally enhanced through the employment of an autothrottle system. The takeoff characteristics make it possible to perform 90 percent of flights under tropical conditions when the carrier ship speed is 10 knots.
The aircraft is equipped with 3 multifunctional color displays and 7 on MiG-29KUB, four-channel digital fly-by-wire flight control system, passive anti-radar missile homing system from Russia; France's Sigma-95 GPS receiver and TopSight helmet-mounted targeting system (the same developed for Dassault Rafale); Electronic Countermeasures (ECM) from Israel; and the Indian Industry supplies the communications equipment. HOTAS-like controls is used in MiG-29K.[1]
An on-board oxygen generating system is provided to eliminate the need for multiple oxygen canisters.
The 2002-built MiG-29K features better cockpit avionics with versatile liquid-crystal color displays. The cockpit was tested by Russian Air Force pilots on the MiG-29SMT fighters and was approved by them. The Indian Air Force pilots also flew the MiG-29SMTs and they also greatly appreciated the information-control field facilities of the cockpit.
The potential of the aircraft's navigational systems will be markedly increased through the installation of a satellite navigation system which has also successfully passed tests aboard the MiG-29SMT aircraft. The capabilities of airborne computers and weapons control systems will be enhanced as well
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PLAN RED DRAFLIGHT – 3 X SU 27MKK -300 KM SOUTH WEST OF COLOMBO
Hang Shu checked the digital time display ,it was time to go active as per his original attack plan .He knew shooting down an unescorted Tu 142 will not be a problem for his powerful aircraft .Getting out safety the Indian ocean region will be difficult he knew but also knew the three Su30 formation had enough fire power to blast through a very determiner opposition and once in gulf of Thailand he will be under protective cover of full PLAN air strength in and around south china sea .
Leaning forward he clicked on the weapon status display .It showed he was carrying 6 R-77 and 4 R-73. All showing good health. He was not expecting and dog fight over the oceans and hence bias towards long rang R-77 s . It was time to initiate search followed by a quick track and a quicker kill.
And then came the first surprise ,as he powered up the radar the screen did not show anything except a faint echo close to the surface of the ocean about 225 km due east which could be a ship but more like an aircraft since the speed tag showed close to 540 knots ..
This must be the Indian navy patrol aircraft but why is it going back half way through the mission desserting its original patrol patter – answer it has been warned of danger –by who must be one of those damn Russian Israeli awacs watching over his moves far out of range from his own radar may be from the safety of Indian air space itself .
Hang Shu cursed loudly in mandarin as put the flanker on a tight diving turn trying to intercept the fast receding Tu 142 still he has to cover lot of distance atleast 150 km before he can launch the radar missiles and he would better get down to same low altitude atleast to 500 meters or so before he can make the kill .He decided to light up the after burner to save time there by using up precious fuel which would have helped him to get back home fast and safe .
Hang Shu checked the digital time display ,it was time to go active as per his original attack plan .He knew shooting down an unescorted Tu 142 will not be a problem for his powerful aircraft .Getting out safety the Indian ocean region will be difficult he knew but also knew the three Su30 formation had enough fire power to blast through a very determiner opposition and once in gulf of Thailand he will be under protective cover of full PLAN air strength in and around south china sea .
Leaning forward he clicked on the weapon status display .It showed he was carrying 6 R-77 and 4 R-73. All showing good health. He was not expecting and dog fight over the oceans and hence bias towards long rang R-77 s . It was time to initiate search followed by a quick track and a quicker kill.
And then came the first surprise ,as he powered up the radar the screen did not show anything except a faint echo close to the surface of the ocean about 225 km due east which could be a ship but more like an aircraft since the speed tag showed close to 540 knots ..
This must be the Indian navy patrol aircraft but why is it going back half way through the mission desserting its original patrol patter – answer it has been warned of danger –by who must be one of those damn Russian Israeli awacs watching over his moves far out of range from his own radar may be from the safety of Indian air space itself .
Hang Shu cursed loudly in mandarin as put the flanker on a tight diving turn trying to intercept the fast receding Tu 142 still he has to cover lot of distance atleast 150 km before he can launch the radar missiles and he would better get down to same low altitude atleast to 500 meters or so before he can make the kill .He decided to light up the after burner to save time there by using up precious fuel which would have helped him to get back home fast and safe .
Negotiations between the PRC and Russia over the purchase of the Su-30MK multirole fighter began in 1996. Sukhoi Design Bureau started work to produce a Su-30-based two-seat attack aircraft designated Su-30MKK (Modernizirovannyi Kommercheskiy Kitayski = “Modernised Commercial for China”) for the PLA Air Force in 1997, with A.I. Knyshev appointed as the chief designer of the project. Under the agreement, Komsomolsk-on-Amur production plant (KnAAPO) was chosen as the primary contractor to build the aircraft. The contract of purchasing 38 Su-30MKK aircraft valued at about US$2 billion was officially signed in August 1999.
Sukhoi Design Bureau produced a detailed design in 1997~98, and the prototype planes were made in KnAAPO in 1998~99. The new version of the two-seater was based to a great extent on the design solutions adopted for the Su-27SK and the single-seat fighter Su-27M. As a result, the Su-30MKK incorporated, for all intents and purposes without any redesign, the Su-27M's centre wing section, wing panels, air intakes, tail beams, fins and landing gear and the Su-27SK's tail-end fuselage assemblies. This approach has greatly reduced the design time, without any new components required for building the aircraft except for the nose.
The first Su-30MKK prototype was built in the spring of 1999. The maiden flight of the prototype Su-30MKK-1 '501 Blue' (built from the Su-30 prototype ‘05’) took place on 20 May 1999 by test pilots I.Ye. Solovyov (Sukhoi Design Bureau) and A.V. Pulenko (KnAAPO). The first four pre-production planes were handed over to the Sukhoi Design Bureau for testing, which was conducted jointly with SPFC of the Russian Air Forces in 1999~2001. The Su-30MKK prototype '502 Blue' was first demonstrated to the Chinese public during the 2000 Zhuhai Air Show.
The first 10 production variant Su-30MKKs were delivered to the PLAAF on 20 December 2000, followed by a second batch of 10 examples on 21 August 2001, and a third batch of 18 examples in December 2001. These aircraft were shared between the PLAAF 3rd Air Division / 9th Fighter Regiment based at Wuhu AFB, Anhui Province and the PLAAF Flight Test & Training Base at Cangzhou AFB, Hebei Province, each with 19 examples.
In July 2001, during the then President Jiang Zemin's visit to Moscow, the PRC signed a contract with the KnAAPO to supply an additional 38 Su-30 MKK fighters. These aircraft were delivered to the PLAAF 18th Air Division (19 examples) based at Datuopu AFB, Changsha, Hunan Province and 29th Air Division (19 examples) based at Quzhou AFB, Zhejiang Province in 2003.
Su-30MKK2Development of the latest Su-30MK2 began around early 2002. Compared to the MKK version in service with the PLAAF, the Su-30MK2 features an improved precision-attack capability and an entirely new C4ISTAR (command, control, communications, computers, intelligence, surveillance, target acquisition and reconnaissance) role not previously hinted at. The aircraft’s new N001VEP fire-control radar is specifically modified to launch the Kh-31 (NATO codename: Kh-17A Krypton-A) long-range supersonic anti-ship missile.
In January 2003, the PRC signed the contract with the Russian state-owned trading company Rosoboronexport for the purchase of the third batch of 24 (other reports suggested 28~30) Su-30MKK2 fighters. Specially tailored to meet the requirements of the PLA Naval Aviation, the aircraft features enhanced anti-ship strike capability. The first batch of 12 examples were delivered in February~March 2004, followed by the second batch of 12 examples in August 2004. These aircraft are deployed by the PLA Naval Aviation 4th Division / 10th Fighter Regiment based at Feidong AB, Zhejiang Province.