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"Itna sannata kyo hain bhai" shakar sir,vivek sir plzz give us a heavy dose of ur writting skills.need to see some fire work :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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IAF STATION –AMBALA – 0345 HRS – BLACK DEATH FLIGHT 6 XSPEECAT JAGUAR

Group captain Charan lal strapped into the martin baker ejection seat .Compared to a Mig 21 on his younger days he liked the slightly more spacious Jaguar cockpit particularly he liked the wee bit more leg room and space around the arms which allows faster access to the controls particularly the flaps and undercarriage levers

This will be a total radio silent mission on over bandit country except in the strike stage .which meant no conversation with tower or team mates. They will have to depend on their years of practice on similar mission to penetrate enemy airspace and depend on the escorting flankers from being jumped by Pakistani Mirages or Falcons

He switched on the landing lights and the off and on once again. .This was the pre arranged signal for his flight to start engine. As his practiced left hand moved smoothly to close the ignition circuit and one by one the powerful Rolls Royce 32.5 kilo Newton engines came to lift with a solid roar spewing black smoke first which lightened up as the engine operating temperature reached the operating level . He started flicking on the avionics master breaker followed by individual miniature breakers for artificial horizon, main display panel. The panels came alive bathing the cockpit in a dull orange green glow. Today he was fully loaded with fuel and ordnance close to maximum 0f 11000 kgs and will need most of the 8000 ft runway for a safe climb out .

-Tower –bravo delta lead –engine start sequence completed –request permission to taxi
- Bravo delta flight – tower –cleared to taxi to runway 24 via taxi way alpha zulu tango delta –over
- Copy tower – bravo delta flight commencing taxi

Hos nomex gloved hand moved over the collective pushing it to 40 % military power and the jaguar lurched forward as he clicked off the parking brake ,reduce power to just over idle and the two engines effortlessly made her roll over the concrete tarmac to taxi way alpha ,the first taxi way from his parking apron connecting to main runway 24 .The wings wobbled a bit and then straightened up as the aircraft picked up speed slowly to nearly 35 kmph .Behind him other five jaguars started rolling out one by one maintaining a separation of 100 ft on ground .

Charan checked the weapon display window on the master display .He had full load of 300 rounds for his twin Aden guns ,18 x68 mm SNEB rockets and 2x 1000 kg retarded bombs specially designed for convoy attack . For self defense he had just two magic air to air missiles on over wing pylons which he was not sure how effective will be in a dog fight with a F-16 armed with sidewinders and may be AMRAAM .

The hammerhead of runway 24 came up .A slight touch on the main brake ,a nudge on the stick and he was rolling to a stop on the runway hold line

- tower – bravo delta lead- request take off clearance –over
- tower – bravo zulu flight – request permission to engine start ,called in the flight lead of escorting flankers from the other side of the air field
- bravo delta flight stand by for take off clearance
- bravo zulu flight –cleared for engine start – not cleared for taxi repeat not cleared for taxi – bravo delta flight on taxi track – over
- tower – bravo zulu- starting engine –not cleared for taxi –copy that –over
- bravo delta –cleared for immediate take off – fly runway heading –climb to operating altitude – use your own navigation –good luck and good hunting –over
- tower –bravo delta lead – cleared for take off – fly runway heading to operating altitude –use own navigation – rolling now

One last instrument scan before take off – fuel pressure green-hydraulics all circuits green- master weapon arming switch off – engine temperature in green, head up display color set to red for better visibility against night sky ,flap set to 15 degree ,fuel boost pump on ,radio frequency set to tactical net ,radar altimeter operating and calibration checked against runway elevation , mission waypoints available on display , cruise altitude set at 80 ft over ground level, auto pilot off

His right hand moved over the small black power lever ,pushing up just a little forward and the engines responded pushing the fully loaded aircraft onto the main runway .The blue amber runway lights came on .Charan stood on the brake almost as he increase power to 100% .The angular nose dipped a little and then the engines started pushing the aircraft forward against the brakes .Charan released the brakes quickly allowing the pent up energy to jump start the take off roll and then as the air speed indicated crossed 50 knots he pushed the power lever past the reheat gate to full afterburner mode and the reassuring mule kick on the back confirmed after extra power so badly needed is now available . Air speed 90 knots –V1 - 130 – 150 knots –rotate .The nose came up . For a second it stayed like that and then the vibration died off and the speecat lifted off the runway and started clawing into humid air.
-undercarriage up –all three undercarriage light on red –altitude 100 ft –level off at 500 ft for the time being till the rest of the flight forms up –air speed 300 knost –retract flaps to zero –turn to heading 265 for the first leg –switch on the moving map display .
The rest of the flight formed up ,it was time to speed up .They would stay in this altitude till line of control and then really dive for the deck .
While military aircraft often have complicated origins, the story of the birth of the Jaguar is an extreme case. In 1957, British Defence Minster Duncan Sandys (pronounced "Sands") published a white paper that stated the day of the manned combat aircraft was over, and the future belonged to guided missiles. In the wake of the "Sandystorm", many promising British aircraft development projects were cancelled, and British Royal Air Force (RAF) officers began to wonder if they would all be out of jobs soon.
Sandys had greatly overestimated the capability of the guided missiles available at the time, though he could be forgiven to a degree because his point of view was not all that unusual at the time, with both the US and the USSR scaling back important aircraft programs in favor of missiles. Furthermore, at that time the British Empire was in its last phase of disintegration, and there was an obvious need to streamline and rationalize the British military aviation industry. Unfortunately, the result was less of a soft landing than a crash that left wreckage strewn all over the landscape.
Some projects did manage to survive the "Sandystorm" By the early 1960s, a backlash of sorts had emerged, with officers and defense officials now brave enough to question that the day of the manned combat aircraft was really over. New aircraft development proposals began to emerge, if timidly.
One of these proposals emerged in 1962 as "Air Staff Target 362 (AST.362)", which specified an advanced jet trainer to replace the Folland Gnat T.1 and the Hawker Hunter T.7. The trainer was also to serve as a light tactical strike aircraft. The British Aircraft Corporation (BAC, later the core of the modern British Aerospace / BAE Systems organization) came up with a design for the requirement designated the "P.45", featuring twin afterburning Rolls-Royce RB.172 engines, then in design, and a top speed of Mach 1.7.
Proposals were one thing, commitment and funding another, and the money was not forthcoming. However, the French government was also casting about for a new trainer with secondary strike capabilities, which emerged in parallel with AST.362 as a requirement for the "Ecole de Combat et Appui Tactique (ECAT)". The ECAT was to replace the Fouga Magister and Lockheed T-33 in the training role for the French Armee de l'Air (AdA), and the Dassault Super Mystere B.2, Republic F-84F, and North American F-100 in the attack role.
These two parallel requirements led to discussions between the two nations for a collaboration on a single aircraft to meet the requirements of both, with a provisional joint specification released in March 1964, followed by a refined specification in October 1964. British politicians liked the idea of a collaborative program as a means of improving relations with the French and gaining a foothold into the European Common Market.
The meeting of minds was not exactly a perfect fit. There was uncertainty on both sides over the relative priorities of trainer versus strike requirements, and so discussions led the two sides to propose two collaborations, one based on the ECAT that would serve as a trainer for the RAF (and possibly the Royal Navy) and as a trainer / light strike aircraft for the ADA; and a more formidable dedicated strike fighter with "swing wings" for both the RAF and the AdA, designated the "Anglo-French Variable Geometry (AFVG)" aircraft.
A decision to proceed on these two collaborative efforts was formalized in a "memorandum of understanding (MOU)" signed on 17 May 1965. As far as the trainer / light attack aircraft went, the initial agreement envisioned that the RAF would obtain 150 advanced trainer variants, while the AdA would obtain 75 trainer variants and 75 light attack variants. The name "Jaguar" was announced for the new aircraft in June 1965. The British trainer was designated "Jaguar B (Biplace)", while the French trainer was designated "Jaguar E (Ecole)" and the French light attack aircraft was designated "Jaguar A (Appui)".
In May 1966, Breguet Aviation of France and British Aircraft Corporation (BAC) formed a joint company to build the new aircraft. The collaboration was named "Societe Europeanne de Production de l'Avion Ecole de Combat et Appui Tactique", blessedly abbreviated as "SEPECAT". The AFVG was to be built by a collaboration between Dassault and BAC.
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THE INDIAN COUNTERATTACKS

5TH BRIGADE AREA OF OPERATIONS (5 TACTICAL AO)
EAST OF DAULAT BEG OLDI
SOUTH OF THE KARAKORAM PASS
DAY 5 + 0355 HRS


The line of artillery shells destroyed the view in Brigadier Adesara’s Low Light Binoculars as a line of fireballs erupted within the Chinese lines. A few seconds later the thunder was rumbling under his feet as the shockwaves went through. By now a mountain of smoke was rising into the cold mountain air even as the first tinge of light was detected to the east. The sounds around Adesara were filled with the thunder of several fighter-bombers in the skies above to the shouts and commands being given by his staff officers over the radios behind him. Then there was a thunderclap and another inverted cone of rock and dust went upwards as a LGB slammed into the Chinese positions behind the immediate front lines. That was where the HQ positions were. The attacks were being coordinated by Adesara’s Forward Air Controllers using Tactical UAV support and SATCOM links with the fighter pilots overhead...

Overall it was as modern a war at the tactical level as they could make it. But in the end it came down to the soldiers clasping full magazines into their INSAS rifles or applying white face paint to help them merge with the snowed background. Adesara lowered his binoculars to see the Captains and Lieutenants in his Infantry Companies getting ready to advance while further to the south lines of BMP-IIs and their crews milled about their vehicles while Colonel Sudarshan conferred with his own junior commanders.

The 5TH Infantry Brigade under Adesara was committing all that it had into the fight. There were no reserves worth speaking of. DIA had confirmed over the past hour that the inbound reinforcement Chinese Infantry Division was less than a few hours away and so were the advancing tank columns that were accompanying them to this sector from near the Qara Tagh La. The current Indian plan was risky to the extreme. If it worked, it would allow a breakthrough in the Chinese wall that could be exploited eastwards towards the Aksai Chin in a land grab. If it failed, it would open up the floodgates for the Chinese to easily capture the Karakoram pass and all of the Indian Territory till perhaps Saser before the effect of concentrated Indian reinforcements could make their impact.

But if you play, you play to win...Adesara said to himself as he again put the binoculars to his eyes to see the effect of the artillery pounding the Chinese front lines...
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FORWARD AREA REARMING POINT (F.A.R.P - SASER)
SASER
SOUTH OF DAULAT BEG OLDI
DAY 5 + 0415 HRS


Wing Commander Dutt could not have agreed more with Brigadier Adesara’s thoughts if he had known about it. Dutt checked to see if his sidearm was loaded and extra clips carried in his flight-suit as he stood aside his parked LCH. Once he had loaded the sidearm in the holster attached to his chest he looked around the LCH to see if everything was where it should be. His WSO was already doing the same. Eight helicopter launched variants of the Nag anti-tank guided missile hung from the airframe at the moment, four on each side. That was about all that could be carried at the moment. With these weapons, the helicopter was loaded for bear at the given altitude of Laddakh.

Dutt looked over to see the second LCH parked further away where the other two crew members of 199HU at FARP-Saser were also doing a walk around of their helicopter in the freezing cold. When everything seemed to be where it was supposed to be, Dutt climbed into the cockpit of the LCH followed by a ground crew member. A few minutes later the turbine engines on both LCHs were spooling up and the main rotor slowly gathering RPM as the engine power increased. Dutt activated the helmet along with his WSO that suddenly turned the murky dark outside environment into a greenish one. The WSO was already looking left and right to check the chin turret and gun movements. The ground crewmen standing outside soon gave the thumbs up to the WSO to confirm gun calibration.

Both LCHs were now on full power even as they waited for the Smerch battery to the west across the road to cease fire for them to move away. Technically they should never have been so close to begin with, but in the narrow valleys of Laddakh, terrain space was not a luxury. When the Smerch units fired off their last salvo and were being approached by their replenishment vehicles, the two LCH pilots maxed out the throttle to initiate take off power from the engines and pulled off the ground with a groan that didn’t please any of the ground crews. But a few seconds away the two choppers were already throttling down as they gathered forward velocity. A minute later they had disappeared from view at Saser as they entered the sector south of Daulat Beg Oldi...
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5TH BRIGADE AREA OF OPERATIONS (5 TACTICAL AO)
EAST OF DAULAT BEG OLDI
SOUTH OF THE KARAKORAM PASS
DAY 5 + 0430 HRS


The line of explosions were continuing to rake the Chinese dug in positions east of DBO when Adesara finally looked back at his wrist watch and then nodded to his Operations officer. The Operations officer in turn gave the orders to a line of Captains sitting in the Signals section that immediately went to work...
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JUMP-OFF POSITIONS
1ST BATTALION OF THE 10TH MECHANIZED REGIMENT
SOUTHEAST OF DBO
DAY 5 + 0431 HRS


Colonel Sudarshan nodded as he heard the orders coming in over to his Command Centre from the Brigade HQ. He was standing next to his personal BMP-II and he climbed on top of it before taking out his binoculars and surveying the continuing series of bombardments hitting the Chinese locations directly in front of his positions to the east. He looked to the side to see the Major commanding the leading squadron of BMP-IIs and NAMICA vehicles looking back at him atop his own BMP-II waiting for orders. Sudarshan lowered his own TACCOM mouthpiece as he shouted into it from where he stood:

“THUNDER-COMMAND to THUNDER-ONE. Initiate GROUND-THUNDER when ready. Execute Op-Plan Three. Out”

The Major leading the advance Squadron of vehicles was now already inside the vehicle even as he spoke with his vehicle commanders:

“THUNDER-ONE to all THUNDER UNITS: initiate Op-Plan Three. Destroy all enemy presence in grid sector Five-Two-Nine. Sweep and clear the ground for our infantry boys. Advance! Advance! Advance!

Colonel Sudarshan saw from where he stood as the entire line of vehicles of 1/10 Mechanized Regiment suddenly lurched ahead with a thundering roar of diesel engines...
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PAKISTANI ARMY CONVOY – POK -0400 HOURS IST

Captain Hasan sipped the steaming hot black tea which one of the soldiers handed over to him. The six mobile anti aircraft guns were now deployed in a protective circle around the stuck up convoy. The replacement crane has just reached and now moving slowly into lifting position. He expected to be on the move in less than one hour.

He also has alerted the half a dozen man portable sam units ,placed within the convoy for a possible sneak attack by the Indians . They were all lying prone on the ground facing south east the likely threat axis .

Still he was not fully comfortable about the situation .As a military man he would have been far more comfortable with some kind of air cover ,but PAF has flatly refused any combat air patrol for such a “low priority mission” .

Most of the infiltrators were huddled inside the trucks, bracing against the sharp chill of mountain dawn. The escorting soldiers in contrast were dispersed all around with weapons pointed sky wards . The sky was still dark but with just a hint of orange on the eastern horizon –or may be it was just his imagination .

One of the bearded terrorists came out of the lead truck and started walking towards him .He di not know his name not he had any intention of knowing .Left to himself he would have shot him then and there .He has just been informed by his relatives in SWAt that one of his female cousins was the latest victim of Taliban sponsored moral policing and her letter to him described in gory details how she was flogged in public view by bearded Mullas because she dared to walk out of her house with a class friend .
The Pakistani government has ordered an inquiry into the flogging of a 17-year-old woman by Taliban militants in the troubled Swat valley, after public outrage triggered by shocking video footage of the punishment.
The images, played yesterday on private television channels, show a burka-clad woman being pinned to the ground by two men while a third whips her backside 34 times. The woman is seen screaming and begging for mercy as a crowd of largely silent men look on. She is accused of having had an illegal sexual relationship, according to local law. Her brother is among those restraining her.
President Asif Ali Zardari led a wave of public condemnation, and ordered the arrest of the perpetrators. Prime minister Yousaf Raza Gilani termed it "shocking" and called for an immediate inquiry. At the supreme court, the newly reinstated chief justice, Iftikhar Chaudhry, summoned officials to a hearing scheduled for Monday to investigate the incident.
"Our constitution allows no space for such public brutality, and our civilisation and culture have no tolerance for it either," said Sherry Rehman, a former information minister.
But the talk of arrests and inquiries are unlikely to amount to much. The Pakistan government's writ has all but collapsed in Swat, where armed militants loyal to a hardline preacher named Maulana Fazlullah have taken control. The teenage woman was flogged in Kabbal, a remote district where Taliban rule is the law. An order by the chief justice to produce the woman in Islamabad next Monday is unlikely to be heeded.
Muslim Khan, a Taliban spokesman, defended the punishment as appropriate under Islamic law, but said it should have been applied by a pre-pubescent boy in a private setting. "She had to be punished," he told Geo News. "The punishment administered by local Taliban was in our knowledge and they did the right thing, but the method was wrong."
That assertion was challenged by Islamic scholars who appeared on television chat shows throughout the day, often in between clips of outraged comments from ordinary Pakistanis. Harsh punishments such as flogging and stoning are considered to have been imported from the Middle East, and at odds with the milder version of Islam that is indigenous to South Asia.
Public outrage reignited debate over the merits of a controversial peace deal signed last February, under which the government ceded control of the valley's judicial system to the militants in an effort to buy peace.
Once a picturesque valley favoured by honeymooning couples, Swat is now better known as a centre of violence and repression. An estimated 1,200 people have been killed and at least 250,000 have fled since hostilities erupted almost two years ago.
Women have been particularly hard hit. The Taliban have burned or bombed 200 girls' schools, shot dead female performing dancers and dumped their bodies in the street, and imposed harsh restrictions on women venturing into public.
The peace deal has brought a measure of peace to Swat, and a hybrid judicial system mixing Islamic and traditional law has become operational. But Zardari has refused to sign a bill finalising Islamic law, saying he will only do so when peace becomes permanent.
Controversy also erupted over the timing of the video. Local reporters and human rights activists told the Guardian that the flogging had taken place within the past three weeks. But the provincial government and the Taliban insisted that it occurred long before the Swat peace deal was signed on February 16.
In different interviews Khan variously estimated the timing at between two, nine and 12 months ago. Mian Iftikhar Hussain, the provincial information minister, said the flogging took place on January 3, and accused those airing the tape of wanting to scupper the peace process.
Debate mostly focused on how to deal with the burgeoning Taliban menace, however. Some worry that the "Talibanisation" of the frontier could eventually spread into the rest of Pakistan.
The Obama administration has criticised Pakistan for striking peace deals with militants, worrying that they provide safe havens for extremists launching cross-border attacks against US and Nato troops in Afghanistan.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/ap ... y-pakistan

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When exactly they will get there 72? :evil: :evil:
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Nitesh wrote:When exactly they will get there 72? :evil: :evil:
Mate even these piece of s**ts also know that it's far fetched dream :wink: , which will never come true,
it's just an elusive idea which is keeping these jerks alive . . . 8) 8)
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IAF STATION –AMBALA – 0415 HRS – BLACK DEATH FLIGHT 6 XSPEECAT JAGUAR

Group captain Charan lal watched the moving map display . They will be crossing the line of control any moment . The radar altimeter showed 80 ft over ground as cruise altitude and he was flying through a dried up river valley at just over 500 knots . All his team mates were following him in a single file with less than 50 ft of vertical seperatio and less than 500 ft of horizontal separation .The navigation lights were on ,because the last thing he wanted was a Sonemarg type crash when two jaguars collided in mid air most likely due to low speed loss of control phenomena some what common in this type of aircraft .

The minimum stable flying speed of Jaguars is 200 knots .This is a respectable speed and under normal circumstance no pilot flies at less than this. The automated stall warning and voice alert activates if the indicated air speed falls below this and the pilot has enough time to take corrective measures .

However things get complicated when in ultra low level nape of the ground flying and in close formation. It is unavoidable to reduce speed over irregular terrain and also to avoid taking sharp turns .This is where the problem starts . A pilot initiating a sharp turn at 250 knots with a bank angle more than 15 degree may lower his air speed below 200 knots the threshold minimum and activate the stall warning and need to take corrective action immediately, which may not be possible in a mountainous country like Kashmir .

Charan Lal ofcourse was only too well aware of this pitfall as he nursed his aircraft carefully through the snaky valley, watched wearily as he was forced to reduce speed to 300 knots and during every sharp turn the speed would drop to 240 knots at which point he will allow the turn to widen by relaxing pressure on the stick and then turn again that is in a series of small turns in stead of a single continuous turn. His not so experienced team mates followed him blindly. He did not touch the power lever till out of the valley and then at the final ingress way point climbed to 1000 ft and broke radio silence for the first time

-bravo delta flight –lead – target 12 miles – 012 – 5300 ft – enemy convoy – number 3 and four make the first strike ––over
- lead –three – getting into attack position –over

Charan lal went active on radar and was happy to see no Pakistani aircraft on combat patrol . No 3 and 4 flashed up and away as they went in with their load of napalms to make the first strike. Hopefully the napalms will make any kind of man pad targeting difficult when he can go his wing for the cluster bomb run followed last by no 5 and 6 with rockets and then if time permits all six can go with strafing run with the guns .

He was sure not many will survive
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Yogesh wrote:
Nitesh wrote:When exactly they will get there 72? :evil: :evil:
Mate even these piece of s**ts also know that it's far fetched dream :wink: , which will never come true,
it's just an elusive idea which is keeping these jerks alive . . . 8) 8)
Yes i know that, but we can do only one thing:

"Forgiving a terrorist is god's responsibility, but fixing his appointment with god is totally ours: Indian army"

Request to Group captain charan lal. Make sure no body survives :evil: :evil:
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F/L Ajoy could see the greenish imahes on his high power night visin goggles –images of a long motorized convoy stuck on a mountain road . It was single line convoy with one or two lead elements stuck up across a bend . As he selected arming switch for air to ground weapons the release circuit for his 4x500 kg kerosene –polystyrene napalm bombs came alive and about the same time first Stinger flashed out of its sealed tube some where in the valley . Ajoy corrected his heading aiming for a fly pass just over the convoy and released all the 4 bombs in one go and then banked hard right as the radar warning receiver started screaming . The first stinger passed behind and the second to his port wing .Full power and he was out of kill envelope .His wing man repeated the attack profile after one minute and the road below was nothing but a river of fire covered in dense black smoke .The firing dropped off and stopped altogether as Pakistani soldiers took to whatever shelter available but ther was none against the merciless onslaught of sticky all pervading fire and the accompanying asphyxiation .
- bravo delta lead – 3 – bomb away – clear for strike
- copy that 3 – on my way
Charan lal came in low ,flying just 200 ft over the still burning convoy he released his retarded cluster bombs and then climbed sharply up and away leaving it his wake a trail of utter destruction
There was nothing more to destroy or burn so charan lal decided to call it a day and the flight headed home .Down below there was nothing worth even photographing –so complete was the fiery destruction.

in July 17, 1944, napalm incendiary bombs were dropped for the first time by American P-38 pilots on a fuel depot at Coutances, near St. Lô, France.[citation needed] Howard Zinn relates how he participated in a napalm bombing of German soldiers (and French civilians) who were awaiting the end of World War II in France about two weeks before the end of the war.[2] Napalm bombs were first used in the Pacific Theatre during the Battle of Tinian by Marine aviators; however, its use was complicated by problems with mixing, fuzing and aircraft release mechanisms.[3] In World War II, The USAAF bombed cities in Japan with napalm, killing 80,000 civilians and making 1,000,000 homeless. The substance was used in bombs and flamethrowers in Germany and the Japanese-held islands. It was used by the Greek National army against the Democratic Army of Greece (DSE) during the Greek Civil War, by United Nations forces in Korea, by France against the Viet Minh in the First Indochina War, by Mexico in the late 1960s against guerrilla fighters in Guerrero and by the United States during the Vietnam War.
The most well-known method of delivering napalm is from air-dropped incendiary bombs. A lesser-known method is the flame throwers used by combat infantry. Flame throwers use a thinner version of the same jellied gasoline to destroy gun emplacements, bunkers and cave hideouts. U.S. Marines fighting on Guadalcanal found them very effective against Japanese positions. The Marines used fire as both a casualty weapon as well as a psychological weapon. They found that Japanese soldiers would abandon positions in which they fought to the death against other weapons. Prisoners of war confirmed that they feared napalm more than any other weapon utilised against them.
Pilots returning from the war zone often remarked they would rather have a couple of droppable gasoline tanks full of napalm than any other weapon, bombs, rockets or guns. The U.S. Air Force and Navy used napalm with great effect against all manner of targets to include troops, tanks, buildings and even railroad tunnels. The demoralizing effect napalm had on the enemy became apparent when scores of North Korean troops began to surrender to aircraft flying overhead. Pilots noted that they saw surviving enemy troops waving white flags on subsequent passes after dropping napalm. The pilots radioed to ground troops and the North Koreans were captured. [4]
Napalm has been used more recently in wartime by or against: Morocco (1976), Iran (1980–88), Israel (1967, 1982), Nigeria (1969), India & Pakistan (1965 & 1971), Brazil (1972), Egypt (1973), Cyprus (1964, 1974), Iraq (1980–88, 1991, 2003 - present), Serbia (1994),1993 Angola, France during the First Indochina War (1946-1954) and the Algerian War (1954-1962),[5].
Napalm can kill or wound by immolation and by asphyxiation. Immolation produces rapid loss of blood pressure, unconsciousness and death in a short time. Third-degree burns are typically not painful at the time, because only the skin nerves respond to heat and third-degree burns kill the nerves. Burn victims do not experience first-degree burns due to the adhesive properties of napalm that stick to the skin. Severe second-degree burns, likely to be suffered by someone hit with a small splash of napalm are severely painful and produce hideous scars called keloids, which can also bring about motor disturbances.[1]
"Napalm is the most terrible pain you can imagine," said Kim Phúc, a napalm bombing survivor known from a famous Vietnam War photograph. "Water boils at 100 degrees Celsius. Napalm generates temperatures of 800 to 1,200 degrees Celsius."[6]
Phúc sustained third-degree burns to half her body and was not expected to live after the attack by South Vietnamese aircraft. But thanks to assistance from South Vietnamese photographer Nick Ut and American doctors, and after surviving a 14-month hospital stay and 17 operations, she became an outspoken peace activist.
International law does not necessarily prohibit the use of napalm or other incendiaries against military targets,[6] but use against civilian populations was banned by the United Nations Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons, (often referred to as the CCW) in 1980. Protocol III of the CCW restricts the use of incendiary weapons (not only napalm), but a number of states have not acceded to all of the protocols of the CCW. According to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), states are considered a party to the convention, which entered into force as international law in December 1983, if they ratify at least two of the five protocols. The United States, for example, is a party to the CCW but did not sign protocol
Reports by the Sydney Morning Herald suggested the usage of napalm in the Iraq War by US forces.[8] This was denied by the U.S. Department of Defense. In August 2003, the San Diego Union Tribune alleged that U.S. Marine pilots and their commanders confirmed the use of Mark 77 firebombs on Iraqi Republican Guards during the initial stages of combat. Official denials of the use of 'napalm' were, however, disingenuous, as the Mk 77 bomb that is currently in service at this time, the Mk 77 Mod 5, does not use actual napalm (for example, napalm-B). The last U.S. bomb to use actual napalm was the Mark 77 Mod 4, the last of which were destroyed in March 2001. The substance used now is a different incendiary mixture, but sufficiently analogous in its effects that it is still a controversial incendiary, and can still be referred to colloquially as 'napalm.'
"We napalmed both those (bridge) approaches," said Col. Randolph Alles in a recent interview. "Unfortunately, there were people there because you could see them in the (cockpit) video." (...) "They were Iraqi soldiers there. It's no great way to die," he added.... "The generals love napalm.... It has a big psychological effect." - San Diego Union-Tribune, August 2003[10]
These bombs did not actually contain napalm. The napalm-B (super napalm) used in Vietnam was gasoline based. The Mk-77 firebombs used in the Gulf were kerosene based. It is, however, a napalm-like liquid in its effect.[1]
The containers of napalm bomber are very light and fabricated of aluminum, with a capacity for about 75 gallons of combustible gel. They lack stabilizing fins, and consequently acquire a tumbling motion on being dropped that contributes to the scattering of the combustible gel over a wide area.
Modern Napalm is a mixture of benzene (21%), gasoline (33%), and polystyrene (46%). Benzene is a normal component of gasoline (about 2%). The gasoline used in napalm is the same leaded or unleaded gas that is used in automobiles. Gasoline is a mixture of hydrocarbons, which burn in an engine. It is a clear liquid, made from crude oil that burns and explodes easily. It naturally contains some benzene (which makes gas smell the way it does). Gasoline is lighter than, and floats on, water, but it will not mix with water. It dissolves grease and oil but will not dissolve polystyrene by itself, more benzene must be added to it. If gasoline is inhaled or swallowed, it can be dangerous or fatal. Breathing it results in an intense burning sensation in the throat and lungs, resulting in bronchitis and, eventually, pneumonia and possibly death. Swallowing gasoline results in inebriation (drunkenness), vomiting, dizziness, fever, drowsiness, confusion, and cyanosis (blue color).
Benzene is a light, colorless, aromatic liquid made from a variety of raw materials, mostly crude oil and coal. In many ways it is similar to gasoline, of which it is a part. The major uses of benzene are in making plastics and other chemicals, not fuel, although it could be used as one. If benzene is breathed or swallowed, it causes throat irritation, rest lessens, excitement, depression, and, finally, convulsions, which can lead to death. A long exposure to benzene vapors (months or years) leads to bone marrow depression and in rare cases, leukemia.
Polystyrene is the white, tough plastic that is used to make cups, plates, and other tableware and food containers. In the pure state it is slightly heavier than water. It dissolves easily in acetone and benzene, but not in gasoline. It is not poisonous; if swallowed it passes unchanged through the digestive tract. But it is possible to choke on it. Heated polystyrene softens at about 185 F. At higher temperatures it turns back into styrene, the chemical from which it was made. Styrene has been tested as toxic to rats. In air, polystyrene melts and burns with a yellow, sooty flame. Styrene itself has a sharp, unpleasant smell that is easy to recognize.
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Shankar wrote: There was nothing more to destroy or burn so charan lal decided to call it a day and the flight headed home .Down below there was nothing worth even photographing –so complete was the fiery destruction.
AoA perfect kill :evil: :evil: but isn't it is so simple for such useless creatures.
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ohh man i was really hopin for atack on chink lines boohoo :(
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Shankar has made Paki Pakoras with Napalm , next we get Chineese Fl/ried Lice by Vivek.
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Its time LCH kicks some serious a$$ and rains havoc on the chinnies :twisted: :twisted: :evil:
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Kicka** Shankar... now, we only need Vivek, Sudharshan and Adesara to kick some chinese butt up north as well.
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Preface

To begin with, Kudos to Shankar and Vivek Ahuja, they are the inspiration for this.

This is a complete work of fiction. This is my first time writing this kinda scenario, so guys bear with me.

Now one issue, I have written 12 pages of the scenario and at a macro level I do know where I want this scenario to go. But I need inputs/help from any of you on any of the following topics (scenarios within scenario). In the mean time, I will slowly post what I have written. Here’s what any of you can add

1. Indian forces and PA skirmishes (multiple theatres)
2. Indian forces and PLA skirmishes (multiple theatres)
3. IAF actions against TSP
4. IN actions against TSP
5. Indian Missile command’s action against TSP
6. Indian forces against terrorists
7. RAW activities worldwide (especially in TSP)
8. IB activities against local subversive elements
9. Covert operations against unwanted establishments in TSP (No assassination of political leaders please. We want to leave leadership/governing structure in TSP after we are done.)
10. International pressure and how we react to it
11. Political conversations around the world relevant to this plot.

Let that writer in you come out, a simple description of a skirmish from any one of you will make other’s day. So Good luck!

Note to Admins: I am not sure if this is the correct forum for this kinda collaborative effort. If it is not, feel free to move to a new thread or topic.
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Chapter 1: Hunted becomes the hunter.

Day 1, 2014

Life was same as in 2009 except that Quad processor laptops were selling for $300. Obama was re-elected with the thinnest of the majority, eloquent speeches does amount to something, isn't it.

To TSP's prostitution credential, Afghanistan was still the same, albeit with 70,000 US troops and 15000 other NATO troops.

7 AM, Peshawar City, Pakistan

It was a chilly January morning and Mohammad Jalil has just opened his restaurant in front of Police headquarters. It was Police headquarter only in its name, PA has completely taken over the place and General Mian Aleem Khan was incharge.

As soon as Mohammad opened his shop, an order of Garma garam chai and Fish pakoras came from General's office. Mohammad's called his help Dilawar and started to get ready to make some pakoras.

Fifteen minutes later everything was good to go. Mohammad put everything on the tray and ordered Dilawar to deliver to the General's office. As soon as Dilawar came, Mohammad noticed Dilawar was sweating in the chilly monring of January. "Are you OK?" asked Mohammad. "I'm fine, just some fever" replied Dilawar.

Unknown to Mohammad, Dilawar has changed the tea kettle with a different one, one with a remote controlled RDX device hidden in the false bottom.

7:45 AM, Gates of Police Headquarters, Peshawar City

Dilawar usually does not get stopped but today security was very tight in the Police headquarters. Guards stopped Dilawar and asked to see his ID card, Dilawar showed his card but the new officer seemed unimpressed. "Who is this for?" He asked. Dilawar somehow maintained his calm posture and replied "For General Sahib." Officer said "Hmm, then you won't mind drinking some of it? Will you?" Dilawar replied with a bit of hesitation "Saab, I do not want to spoil this for general sahib, but if you want me to, can I get a cup?". The office smiled and said, "Good enough, run with it. General sahib doesn't like his tea cold".

Dilawar ran and gave the tray to the guard outside general's office and that was last anyone saw him.

7:55 AM,
Peshawar city was quite. General Mian Aleem Khan was getting ready to get started for another day of halfhearted fight against terrorism. Life was hard in Peshawar, so his family was sound and safe in Islamabad. He poured some tea in the cup and took a bite of fish pakoras. Nothing like pakoras he thought and just then there was a blinding flash. General Khan was no more.

7:56 AM

Just as chaos started erupting in the police headquarters, a Toyota forerunner crashed into the gates of police headquarters with a blinding flash, parts of forerunner flew away with body parts and bone fragments.

At the same time rockets procured from PLA started raining on Police Headquarters from well outside the city limits of Peshawar.

The siege of Peshawar city has begun and Taliban Al-qaeda was showing its real teeth to TSP's government.

The hunted has become the hunter.
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Chapter 1: Hunted becomes the hunter
0800 HRS PESWAR

Colonel Riyaz ducked below the window as one more RPG round whished past and slammed into the room next. The Taliban attack was getting more intense and ferocious by the second . He needed help and needed it fast .His request for back up and air support was met with a cool “we are doing what we can “ response “ in the meantime “do your best”

Next to him Major Williams of US army advisor to Pakistani army was already on his radop asking for immediate air support but USAF units in Bagram was hesitating since Pakistani government have strongly objected to any air strike in Pakistani soils by USAF units because of religious sensibilities ,even from drones .There was only one option open and the window of opportunity to take on a large group of terrorists was closing rapidly .His request for direct air support was quickly passed on to the Indian air force contingent based in Bagram
Bagram Air Base (ICAO: OAIX) is a militarized airport and housing complex that is located next to the ancient city of Bagram, southeast of Charikar in Parwan province of Afghanistan. The base is currently occupied and maintained by the 5th Aviation Battalion (Assault),and 6th Aviation Battalion (GSAB) of the 82nd Airborne Division (Airborne) of the United States Army, with the 455th Air Expeditionary Wing of the United States Air Force and other U.S. Army, Navy, Marine Corps, and coalition partner units having sizeable tenant populations.
Bagram Air Base has three large hangars, a control tower, and numerous support buildings. It is often erroneously referred to as Bagram Air Base, however, the senior mission commander at Bagram is an Army two-star general, making it an Army Air Field. There are more than 32 acres (130,000 m²) of ramp space and five aircraft dispersal areas, with a total of over 110 revetments. Many support buildings and base housing built by the Soviets were destroyed by years of fighting between the various warring Afghan factions. However, new barracks and office buildings are slowly being constructed at the present time. There is also a detention center at Bagram Air Base, which has been criticized in the past for its alleged abusive treatment of prisonersThe ICAO ID is OAIX and it is specifically at 34.944N, 69.259E at around 1500 m above sea level. The base had a single 3003 m (9852 ft) runway built in 1976. A new 3.5-kilometre long runway was built and completed by the United States in late 2006, at a cost of US$68 million. This new runway is 2000 feet longer than the previous one and is 11 inches thicker, which gives it the ability to handle larger aircraft if necessary, such as the C-5 Galaxy, C-17 Globemaster III or the Boeing 747.
WHITE ANGEL FLIGHT – 18 XMIG 21BISON – BAGRAM AIR BASE –AFGANISTAN-0830 HRS


Squadron leader Ahmed was running even before the scramble alarm died down . His squadron have just arrived on rotation duty replacing the squadron OF Mig 27 who were fighting the Taliban in Tora bora for the last 6 weeks in support of international security force .And this will be their first combat mission.

As he ran through his walk around was glad to see the 81 mm rocket pods hanging from the centre pylon as well as inner wing pylons . There was no air to air ordanace for this mission as the air protection will be handled by USAF jets most likely F-15 s today.

POLICE HEADQUARTERS –PESHWAR –PAKISTAN -0840 HRS


The fight was intense and so was the RPG bombardment .The reinforced walls of police headquarters were a still holding but no one was sure how long it will hold out. The Talibans were paying a heavy price but so were the pakistany para military forces. Colonel Riaz thought it was highly ironic that their arch enemy have taken on the responsibility of saving their lives and what he did not know that this pattern of events will be repeated many times over as the Taliban gets into the final attempt to overthrow the government of Pakistan and India steps in to stabilize the situation along with international partners.
Major Williams have just told him that a flight of Indian Migs have been tasked with providing close air support and expected shortly .They have to hold on till then .
The building shuddered as first of the mortar rounds fired from outside the compound wall landed on the car park ,setting of a mini fire ball . Taliban have just added another dimension to their assault .It will not be long before the mortar guys find their range and start hitting the main building . Time was running out and running out fast.

WHITE ANGEL FLIGHT 18 XMIG 21 BISON – 0845 HRS

- whisky alpha flight –tower –cleared for immediate take off –hit them hard – over
- tower –whisky alpha lead – rolling now –over

The 18 upgraded fishbeds flashed over the extra long runway 27 and took off like silver arrows and sharply turned south wards even beforew the under carriage have fully retracted . They kept on the after burner on for a minute or so to quickly build up air speed and then stayed on full military power as the flaps settled back in the grove for sustained high speed cruise .It was time to contact the E3Sentry Target vector
- top dome –whisky alpha – course 225 –speed 1000 km/hr – target details and vector please – over
- whisky alpha lead- target police headquarters peshwar – under Taliban attack with mortars and RPG – take them out – you are weapons free in pak air space –make your heading 180 – flight level 200 – contact when enemy in sight –over
Ahmed eased back on the power lever a bit as he came quickly to the new course.

POLICE HEADQUARTERS PESWAR -0900 HRS

The barrage of mortar shells started in earnest as the defenders fought on for their lives and dignity. No one had any illusion about what Taliban will do to them if caught alive. Their only hope of quick salvation strangely was Indian Migs some where out over afghan air space .
Smoke and debri everywhere .From his vantage points Riyaz could see atleast 14 dead bodies some with their limbs and heads blown off by incoming RPG rounds . Besides Him Williams was once again on the radio, screaming his head off at the air force liaison officer in Bagram .

WHITE ANGEL FLIGHT 18 XMIG 21 BISON – 0920 HRS

The lead Mig 21 flashed over the police headquarters as squadron leader Ahmed took on the scene an firmed up his attack plan . The Taliban militia have managed to totally surround the building and now getting ready to storm. As he clicked on the tactical air net connecting him to the rest of the squadron and the US E 3 ,his instructions were clear and precise
- whisky alpha 3 /4 hit the vehicles
- 5/6/7/8 stand by till ¾ finish their attack then go for the mortars north and east of the compound
The first two migs came screaming down on the small convoy of vehicles responsible for taliba logistics and fired of their salvo of heavy unguided rockets and climbed out sharply as the next four came in targeting the mortar batteries .
Ahmeds radwar warning receiver blinked and screeched .Obviously some sam is there down below but he was not carrying any anti radiation missiles. Ahmed banked hard right punching out a few flares and chaffs and then dived for his own target – a group of Talibans crawling over the boundary walls into the police compound. The Gsh 301 blazed leaving behind a trail of blood and death
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5TH INFANTRY BRIGADE AREA OF OPERATIONS (5 TACTICAL AO)
EAST OF DAULAT BEG OLDI
SOUTH OF THE KARAKORAM PASS
DAY 5 + 0440 HRS


Brigadier Adesara watched through his binoculars to see the three dozen BMP-IIs and NAMICAs advancing along the entire southern front south of the Chip Chap River from his advanced TAC-HQ. The lines of tracers and cannon rounds were flowing back and forth between the advancing Indian vehicles and the defending Chinese units. Adesara’s Signals Commander walked up to where his CO was standing and gave him the latest sit-rep:

“1ST of the 10TH reports higher than expected enemy resistance. Advance is continuing. Casualties are light thus far. One BMP has been destroyed by a Chinese anti-tank missile and three others have disabled tracks. The crews are still in them and fighting it out. Remaining force is advancing eastwards.”

As if on cue, another fireball marked the end of another Indian BMP to the east, causing both officers at the TAC-HQ to take note of the sudden fireball that rose to the sky and disappeared into the cold dark night. Adesara’s hand turned into a fist as anger poured out: Another three lives lost. God damn it!

“3RD Battalion is advancing!” a young observations officer announced as another roar of diesel engines announced the advance of yet another Battalion committed for this operation. The 3RD Battalion of the 10TH Mechanized was advancing along the northern sectors and was now heading in a large advancing arc that would take them around the tank graveyard littered with destroyed Chinese vehicles directly in front of them. These burnt out hulls of Chinese tanks were reminder of the powerful force that had been decimated right at the edge of the DBO airstrip on the first day of the war.

Now, three days later, the Indian counter-attack was moving around and beyond them...
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FORWARD H.Q.
1ST BATTALION OF THE 10TH MECHANIZED REGIMENT
SOUTHEAST OF DBO
DAY 5 + 0451 HRS


Colonel Sudarshan was leaning over the maps inside the tents pitched near his BMP Command Group Vehicles. Nearby the radios were alive with chatter of the ongoing battle as young unit commanders were leading the assault and shouting hoarse over the radios to make themselves heard. Sudarshan’s Signals Officers were trying to make sense of the incoming chaotic information and passing it off to the Operations officers who were then trying to update the maps with regard to rough locations of the various Battalion subunits in front of Colonel Sudarshan. In addition, several battlefield computers nearby were showing the feed from the single Nishant UAV flying directly above the battlefield in support of 1ST Battalion operations.

All in all, Sudarshan had a very clear idea of the battle situation, but that didn’t change the fact that the Chinese were fighting, and fighting hard...
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FORWARD EDGE OF THE BATTLEFIELD (F.E.B.A.)
SOUTHEAST OF DBO
DAY 5 + 0452 HRS


“Gunner, traverse left! Target: HMG emplacement! Range: Five hundred!” Captain Kongara shouted after spotting the target through his Commander Optical Sights system. The response from his gunner was quick:
“Target identified!”
“Fire!” Kongara shouted.

The vehicle shuddered as the 2A42 cannon’s 30mm rounds slashed out from the vehicle and slammed into the Chinese HMG position, killing all three Chinese soldiers in a series of explosions and dust clouds and silencing the position...

“Target neutralized!” the gunner shouted over the vehicle intercom.

“Confirmed!” Kongara agreed. A moment later he spotted a Chinese ZBD moving within from behind some cover and dust east of the Chinese infantry dug in positions. Kongara’s gunner was quick to spot following his commander:

“Gunner, Chinese ZBD moving out of cover!”
“I have him!” the gunner shouted a second out of sync with Kongara.
“Fire!”

The 30 mm rounds lashed out yet again from Kongara’s BMP-II and this time hit the thin walled armour plating of the Chinese ZBD at almost right angles, maximizing the charge penetration. Even so, the result was less than spectacular. Kongara’s gunner had to fire off another burst of rounds before the Chinese vehicle staggered to a halt. A moment later the Chinese soldiers were jumping out of the hatches as they abandoned that vehicle. A couple of them attempted to throw some smoke grenades between them and the advancing line of Indian BMPs to help them escape. However, the smoke takes time to spread. The Indian gunners didn’t give them that time: three separate BMP turrets completely laced the ground with the 7.62 mm rounds of the co-axial PKT machineguns. A mass of small dust clouds and orange sparks lit up the ground around the now smoking ZBD before all movements were silenced.

The leading Indian BMPs were now just beyond the range of Light Infantry Anti-Tank weapons that the Chinese soldiers in the trenches ahead were bound to carry. Kongara’s CO was quick to call everybody on the R/T in the leading group of vehicles to take note of that fact:

“THUNDER-ONE to all THUNDER UNITS: we are entering the Chinese infantry positions. Group BLUE will advance east of the positions. Seek and destroy this Commie Battalion’s rear positions and logistics areas. If you see a truck that’s intact, light it up. If you see a moving commie, shoot them. Group GREEN will debuss friendly infantry and provide over-watch support in clearing operations. Group RED will stay in reserve. Execute. Out”

“Roger, THUNDER-ONE. THUNDER-GREEN acknowledges. Out” Captain Kongara replied in return before addressing his vehicle driver: “Driver, traverse forward. Keep it slow and steady.”

The vehicles of the 1ST Mechanized Battalion once again renewed their advance a few seconds later and now entered the firing range of the battered positions of the opposing Chinese infantry Battalion. The incoming fire from the Chinese soldiers had never really stopped, but now it picked up in intensity as both sides realized that this was going to be a fight to the finish. Given the open, barren terrain of Laddakh behind them, there was no scope of abandoning positions for the Chinese soldiers. For the Indians, this was to be the penetration point in the FEBA. Either way, one of the two sides was slated for destruction...

Kongara’s men had to be more careful than the other BMP Groups because Group GREEN was the set of BMP-IIs carrying friendly infantry soldiers in them to help storm the Chinese trenches when the time came. In this case one Company worth of 7TH Battalion of the Punjab Regiment were currently travelling with the advancing BMPs under Kongara’s command. Seven soldiers plus three crew members per vehicle, the cost of losing even a single vehicle in the group could be catastrophic. And yet that was the inevitability of war...

The Chinese soldiers were offering stiff resistance to the advancing Indian vehicles, deploying smoke, firing mortar barrages within the mass of Indian vehicles and trying to engage with ATGMs. But the powerful inertia of the lines of BMPs advancing towards their open positions meant that there was no stopping the Indian advance. But that didn’t mean that the law of probability did not apply...

As Kongara watched through his Optics to see how the gunners of the various vehicles under his command were faring against the dug in Chinese soldiers, his eagle eyes spotted what looked a thin cylinder suddenly moving across his view towards some vehicle down the line...

Oh shit! Incoming mis...” the frantic R/T call was cut short as a massive white flash of light destroyed his NVG systems for several seconds before the light changed from white to orange and a shockwave ran through the interiors of his vehicle with a rumbling thunder. A moment later the R/T came alive with the sounds of a dozen different vehicle commanders:

Two is gone! Oh my god! Two is gone! I say again: we have lost GREEN-TWO!”

Kongara regained enough of his vision to turn his vehicle optics to the right to see the BMP next to him burning furiously even as it got left behind the remaining advancing vehicles. He was immediately on the R/T to regain control of the situation:

“Cut the god damn chatter. Keep the net clear! Resume the advance, god damn it! THUNDER-GREEN to GROUP-GREEN elements: maintain the advance! Prepare to deploy infantry! Out”

Kongara now returned to see that his gunner was still engaging targets and so were a bunch of other vehicles in his group. Good...Kongara thought as he restored his composure. He had just lost ten men a few seconds ago, but as a commander he would lose a lot more if he did not put that loss behind him. Behind him the seven Sikh soldiers were already checking their weapons and equipment. Any second now...

“GROUP-GREEN: Smoke! Smoke! Smoke!”

Kongara ordered when his vehicles had advanced within a couple hundred yards from the Chinese lines. Now the BMP-IIs began deploying smoke and came to a jerking stop. That was the cue for the soldiers inside to slam open the rear doors of the BMP and jump out onto the cold, snow covered ground churned by the tracks of their vehicles. Kongara and his gunner never removed their eyes from covering the front ahead of them. Now that the soldiers had debussed, his vehicles were providing over-watch fire to the advancing Punjabis. The Captain commanding the Sikh soldiers was directly in touch with Kongara and his BMP Group as they advanced forward. By now the sounds of cannon fire had given way to chaotic small arms fire as the Indian soldiers stormed the Chinese trenches.

Any Chinese movement above the trench lines was immediately engaged by the waiting BMPs, thus forcing the Chinese to fight from within the trenches. This gave the Indian soldiers the freedom of movement and manoeuvre, and the results began to show the advantage. The sounds of the gunfire began to lessen slightly as time passed...

To the south, Kongara noticed GROUP BLUE advancing beyond the trench lines and heading into the vast open spaces east of the LAC even as their turrets continued engaging some targets at very long ranges...

A few minutes later the small arms fire in the trenches had completely died down and Kongara could only see Indian soldiers milling about the Chinese trenches. Soon thereafter the Sikh Company commander climbed out of the trenches with a couple of his men and waved for the Indian vehicles to advance towards the trenches. By now Kongara was sitting on the turret with the hatches opened as he greeted the Sikh Company commander and his men.

A few seconds later the word ran through back the R/T channels that the Chinese resistance in that sector had collapsed ahead of the arrival of their reinforcements. GROUP BLUE of the 1ST Battalion of the 10TH Mechanized had by now overrun and destroyed the Chinese Battalion HQ and in conjunction with GROUP GREEN had opened a yawning gap within the Chinese front lines. And while the 3RD Battalion to the north was facing stiff opposition and had failed to punch through, the fact that southern positions had been breached meant that the Reserve 4TH Battalion could be rushed through this gap to surround and annihilate the enemy from behind while the 3RD Battalion continued to push from the front. Brigadier Adesara agreed with this assessment suggested by Colonel Sudarshan and had passed the orders.

Out on the front lines, the lines of Chinese POWs were being herded back under the careful watch of the Sikh soldiers from the 7TH Punjab Battalion. As these captured and dejected enemy combatants moved past the parked rows of Indian BMPs from GROUP-GREEN waiting for orders, Captain Kongara noticed that his little corner of the war had now turned into the focal point of the Indian advance much the same way as the attempted spoiling attack by Brigadier Adesara had now turned into an manoeuvre offensive of much larger proportions as the Indian Army began taking the war beyond the LAC...

Captain Kongara jumped off his BMP and picked up a fistful of mud from under the snow as it dawned upon him that they had just liberated a piece of land that had been under hostile control for half a century. The sun came up a few minutes later to reveal a morning such that the Indian Army in the mountains of Laddakh had never seen before...
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“THUNDER-ONE to all THUNDER UNITS: we are entering the Chinese infantry positions. Group BLUE will advance east of the positions. Seek and destroy this Commie Battalion’s rear positions and logistics areas. If you see a truck that’s intact, light it up. If you see a moving commie, shoot them. Group GREEN will debuss friendly infantry and provide over-watch support in clearing operations. Group RED will stay in reserve. Execute. Out”
AoA :evil: :evil: die u commies die
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Shankar wrote:.His request for direct air support was quickly passed on to the Indian air force contingent based in Bagram
What shall we support them. no way let them fight there war and get there 72 also :evil: :evil:
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Captain Kongara jumped off his BMP and picked up a fistful of mud from under the snow as it dawned upon him that they had just liberated a piece of land that had been under hostile control for half a century. The sun came up a few minutes later to reveal a morning such that the Indian Army in the mountains of Laddakh had never seen before...
Inshallah !!

Vivekji I religiously check this forum before leaving the office.. good way to end the day...but today couldnt resist posting ...boss you rock...for last few minutes i was standing with Captain Kongara on the Liberated soil
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vivek_ahuja wrote:Captain Kongara jumped off his BMP and picked up a fistful of mud from under the snow as it dawned upon him that they had just liberated a piece of land that had been under hostile control for half a century. The sun came up a few minutes later to reveal a morning such that the Indian Army in the mountains of Laddakh had never seen before...
Simly beautiful,... :sniff: :sniff:
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@ the two viveks :

sharma ji, you are welcome to start any scenario. just take care not to use large fonts, many of us surf BR from office.
thanks.

ahuja sahab, plz check gmail.
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Great writing everyone.
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Thanks Shankar, that's exactly the kind of help I was looking for.

I'm kinda short handed when it comes to the technology related details of our armaments. But hey, gotta start somewhere. :lol:
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Chapter 2: The Tiger Awakens

Day 2, 2014, New Delhi, PM's Office

8:45 AM IST
Ananad Kunjan, Personal secretary of PM Shastri, was almost running to PM's office when he bumped into Defense Minister, JP Singh. "Sorry Sir" Anand said, "Did you hear?" "Yes, Let’s get to the meeting”, replied Defense Minister Singh and both ran to the emergency meeting of the National Security Council to discuss the situation.

8:50 AM, New Delhi, PM's Office

RAW chief JP Ahuja was the first one to go "We have confirmation that Peshawar city will fall by tonight in spite of efforts by our Air-force. Half of the PA's command stationed there was wiped out in first five minutes. Very few officers are left and with the command gone and almost no communication with Islamabad, situation is as worse as it can get. With the fall of Peshawar, Taliban-Al-qaida will have easy access to plains of Punjab and Sindh. I think the time is right to start Operation Ahimsa".

Defense Minister Singh chimed in "I concur. We have been waiting for quite some time. All the tests are complete and Infrastructure is in place."

PM Shastri turned towards Foreign Minister JP Yadav and asked "Jagjit, do you think the world is ready for this?" Yadav replied "I guess the question is, are we ready to see it through? We have been patient enough! But with Peshawar falling, I think the world is ready to see some action on Taliban-Al qaida alliance. Only problem I see is if we our move our forces near the border, Pakistan is going to say that we are taking advantage of the situation and then they will move their assets from fighting Taleban to fighting us. We have gone through multiple simulations and discussions on this, you know for next month I am not going to get any sleep”.

Just as Foreign Minister JP Yadav finished, PM's gaze turned towards Chief of Staff General Gupta, and from the looks of it, he was ready to jump on the opportunity. PM Shastri has not become a politician without being able to read the body language, but still he has to ask, so he fired away "General, I guess you are ready to tackle this monkey?" General Gupta replied "You know we have been ready for quite sometime. All you need to say is GO! And we will run."

PM Shastri wanted to make sure the DRDO is also ready so he looked towards the teleconference monitor, but before he could say anything DRDO chief Tyagrajan volunteered "Sir, we are done with the infrastructure in East, West and South East. South West is almost done, except that we have not tested electricity connections with the National Grid. But based on our experience in other regions we can do that on a war footing in 2 weeks."

PM Shastri paused for a minute as he had to make a momentous decision. Everything looked ready. Most importantly, economy was on rebound and finances were good. The question has always been of When not IF, and this point in time seemed good enough.

PM Shastri paused for a moment and then said, “Let me reiterate, This is NOT a WAR. Our First and foremost objective is to break the back and morale of the Pakistani forces & ISI and take out elements which think India is the enemy. At the end of this operation, they should know we have the will and the capability to maul them where and when we wish. But we will not do that.

Pakistan’s enemy is their home-grown terrorism which has spawned into Taleban-Al Qaeda alliance. So we want to leave them with enough capability to fight terrorism, but not enough to mount an attack on India. And who in the world knows better then us how to fight terrorism. Terrorism is not defeated by Tanks and APC’s, for that all you need are smart and brave soldiers. This is exactly what we want to leave them with.

Our second objective is to take what belongs to us. Kashmir is ours and we will take it.

We all know this operation will be fought on two fronts, first is against Pakistan and second against the international community who will not like what we want to do. So we have to be strong, and handle them very carefully. Ultimately we have to defend ourselves, and nobody is going to be making decisions for India anymore”.

PM Shastri was not very religious, but today he needed all the strength and, goodwill of all and anyone. He said in chaste Sanskrit "Om Shri Ganeshay Namha. Shubharambh." (Felicitations to Lord Ganesha, let's begin)
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Day 2, 2014- IAF STATION LOHEGAON –PUNE

Air commodore Jasjit Singh Jumper off his staff car and rushed to the radar centre .The newly upgraded center was having some problem with integration of Rajandra 2 Phased array radar system to the existing soviet air defense system and he with his degree in electronics engineering just wanted to check the progress the engineers were making .The problem was the not critical more to do with effective man machine interface and the comfort level of technicians with the sensitive touch screen interface used to select and track specified targets .The MIL type connectors provided with the new Rajendra model was not fitting the old console and everyone on the floor was shuttling around like a blue assed flies trying to solve a simple problem with unnecessary rush and in the process making a mess of it . It was time for some old fashioned shouting and discipline thought air commodore as he purposefully strode into the air conditioned sanctum of Lohegaon and caught hold of a young F/L to understand what really was going on.

The top secret directive from air headquarters via south western air command have just arrived . All the Su-30 s have moved out and the tarmac and the hangers were now full of nearly 3 squadrons of Mig 35 rushed straight from their factory in Russia and now being practice flown bu ex Mig 29 Pilots .Fortunately most of the group did not find any major difference except the better display ,the thrust vectoring engine and of course more hard points –all of which they knew will come in very handy in the coming conflict .The Jaguars have moved out to Goa to provide extra punch to the navy by operating from the same base .

The logic behind selecting Mig 35 OVER F-18 was now coming to fore . The quick induction of the aircraft for combat no way could have been possible with any western aircraft with the exception of Mirage 2000 which in any case was not on offer or available .

The entire air base was now protected like queens jewel with layers of anti aircraft guns and surface to air missiles from the old SA 3 to more recently acquired Barak 2 s and somewhere far to the north was the single battery of PAD/AAD system installed for air defense of Pune city and cantonment.

The runway was busy and looked more and more like MG Road than an air base with transport aircrafts of all sizes and shape landing every 5 minutes ,emptying their guts and taking off again to south to get in more spares and supplies from Bangalore and Hyderabad.

Perimeter security was super tight and all civilian flights out of Pune will be cancelled any day but because of public pressure that decision have been kept on hold .

Some one offered him a plastic cup of half cold tea . Jasjit accepted it gratefully .He really needed it . Outside four Miig 35 s took off in formation and with full air to air weapon load .They will stay on CAP till another flight relieves them in 2 hrs time .

The war was still some distance away.
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II CORPS STRIKE FORCE DELTA – THOR -CHOLISTAN DESSERT – INETERNATIONAL BORDER

Major General Randhawa scanned the armored formation lying in wiat for the command to move forward which he knew may take few more days may be even a week in coming but his was not to question why.

II Corps, headquartered at Ambala in peacetime, is the most important of the Indian Army's three armor-intensive strike formations, and its task in case of a war would be to cut across the Cholistan desert towards Jacobabad, cutting Pakistan in two. 2 Corps, also known as the Strike Corps, plays a key role in times of conflicts. The II Corps holds almost 50 per cent of the Indian strike capabilities and although based at Ambala it is responsible for guarding the borders till Ganganagar. II Corps is a strike force that includes an armoured division, which is capable of intruding deep into enemy territory

Nearly 300 Harappan sites (cf. Indus Valley Civilisation) have been found in the Hakra valley, mostly by M. R. Mughal, which account for 20% of all Harappan sites now . Cholistan has changed amazingly over the history. The desert was under perennial regular irrigated cultivation till 1200 BCE and under seasonal regular irrigated cultivation till about 600 BC. The area turned into arid and desolate desert with drying up of River Hakra. These days again, the desert is undergoing a process of profound change because of canal system originating from the River Sutlaj. But one can still find people living in houses made of mud and straw almost as they might have been living 200 years ago.



Under his command were almost 1500 tanks mostly T90 and some old but updated t-72 s
Lined up along the dessert boundary .one every 100 meters covering almost 75 km front
And some places two or three deep where enemy resistance was known to be heavy particularly near the city Jacocabad. Interspaced along the main battle tanks were the BMP MK 2 and recently added quite formidable Mk3 s . 15 kms behind them were the regiments of artillery fielding the FH77 Bofors guns .

The air was thick with tension as occasional shots from both sides were routine and so were the accompanying fatalities and casualties. There were some accidental deaths from mines also and so far more than 11 soldiers have died even before the war have started while laying mines or walking over one .

He decided to give the colonel in charge of mine laying a piece of his mind in the afternoon . He ducked as the Pakistani heavy machine gun opened up in general direction of Indian position and Indian gunners responded in kind, livening up the day a bit.

A young captain launched a small UAV towards the Pakistani machine gun position, hopefully it will send back some useful images which will be immediately transmitted to IAF strike formations and incorporated in the air tasking orders for the first day of operation . The tiny toy like UAV barely 10 ft across the wings slowly circled to gain altitude and then approached the Pakistani line cautiously. The under slung camera started taking high resolution digital photos from 10000 ft and transmitting them back to the operating console. The Pakistani machine guns opened up once again firing at the unseen drone but without much success.

Randhawa walked back to his camp slowly –after all he had still a days work to do and take a strike formation into battle ina few days time and it was no time to pass time looking at piddly machine guns firing in the distance.
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vivek.sharma-your turn -you are slowing down the buildup
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INDIAN NAVAL BASE- KARWAR -KARNATAKA

Rear ADMIRAL Sushil Patnaik opened the sailing orders just received from western naval command .
Fm WNC TO TASK FORCE 31 COMMANDER
MSG CLSSIFICATION TOP SECRET
MSG PRIORITY FLASH
SUBJECT – COMBAT DEPLYMENT IN NORTH ARABIAN SEA
FM VDM D SOUZA WNC
MSG AUTHORIZATION ALPHA ALPHA ZETA BRAVO 5 69 TANGO

PROCEED IMMEDIATELY TO PATROL AREA DESIGNATED GRID SECTOR ZULU ALPHA THROUGH DELTA. COMBAT ACTION A DEFINITE POSSIBILITY.HIGH SUBMARINE THREAT EXPECTED. AIR COVER AVAILABLE IN PATROL AREA. RGDS

Sushil knew very well what the priority message implied .India is getting ready for a major strike on Pakistan and his task force centered around 3 Kolkata class guided missile destroyers is just one of the pieces being moved around in the giant game of life and death jig saw puzzle

It was time to let other ship commanders into the loop. He pressed the intercom and softly instructed his secretary to arrange a meeting in the underground situations room of the base located strangely next to the Brahmos missile storage depot .

In the distance he could see the core of the task force Kolkata- Kochi and Guahati taking on the supplies and torpedoes .Missiles will be loaded tomorrow and then sailing day after early morning .
He could not see the Submarine bay from his office where in a shelter cut out from the mountains the pair of Akul;a 2 were also getting ready for their own mission .They will join his main force during operations in hostile seas but for the time being they have their own separate strike priority .

He will have support of two upgraded kilos and one scorpene for the entire duration of patrol which will sail out middle of the night and sanitize the exit chanel before the main fleet moves out.

The telephone called for his attention and it was the base logistics requesting his specific verbal authorization to allow uploading of the supersonic missiles both land and ship attack versions for the task force use. He gave it along with his personal 8 digit alpha numeric authorization code and also quoting the mission code received from western naval command which will tell the stores what specific version are allowed to be loaded on the ships . This mission code did not carry the red star marked which meant nuclear tipped missile use is not envisaged at least not immediately

First ship birthed in Karwar on navy day

The base has a unique Rs 150 crore Shiplift and Ship Transfer System - the first of its kind in India - for underwater maintenance of a ship's hull.

Spread across 4,480 hectares of land, it is the navy's third major base, after the ones at Mumbai and Vishakhapatnam. The base was developed to help decongest the Mumbai base but with the induction of Vikramaditya which had karwar as its home base it became the most important naval base in the country

The shiplift system has the capacity to lift 10,000 tonnes and will be able to lift all Indian naval ships other than aircraft carriers and tankers for underwater maintenance.

The Karwar base also has a ship repair yard, hospital, logistics complex, armaments depot, administrative facilities and residential colonies. A naval air station came up later about 24 km from the base office. , used by the aircraft and helicopters of the ships berthed at the harbor.

Navy ships will began regular visits to the base from January and by the second half of 2009 a few ships was be based at Karwar.
Then came the Vikramaditya with her escorts in 2011 and things started changing first .

The idea to have an alternate naval base had come up in the early '70s, but it got a boost only after the foundation stone was laid by then Prime Minister, the late Rajiv Gandhi. Although the master plan was drawn up in 1989, the project was stalled due to financial constraints. The truncated Phase-I was approved in 1995 with actual work starting in October 1999.

Though commissioning the entire base took time, many facilities and infrastructure in the truncated Phase-I was be ready by 2010 . While the entire project cost is Rs 35,000 crore, Phase-I will used up Rs 2,500 crore. ,phase 2 12500 crore and still going phase three is expected to cost another 12000 crores .

The navy has relocated the residents of 13 villages from the land to seven rehabilitation centers, reserved vacancies for persons from the affected families, granted compensation and offered alternative sites for housing as a special humanitarian gesture and also with an eye for base security since it was widely believed the base was a secondary storage site for navys big bang weapons –far out of reach of Pakistani air strike .

But all these facts and figures were not exactly on Rear Admirals mind as he nibble through his dry lunch .His mind was already on the oceans
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Chapter 2: The Tiger Awakens (Continued)

Flashback to year March 27, 2001, BARC, Trombay

Professor Bose of IIT Kharagpur was man of many talents. Nuclear Physics was his domain, but he had expertise in electrical engineering, mechanical engineering among other fields of interest. This gave him an uncanny eye for spotting inter-discipline areas that can be used for practical applications. Today was an auspicious day, first day of Navrathra, and testing has begun on his prototype of what he lovingly called "Electron Dispenser".

Electrons are funny little particles and they are what make electricity and electronics work. His idea of using them as a weapon was very simple, direct a beam of enough electrons towards a electronic circuit, and see if it creates havoc on the circuit.

But the first problem was how to "excite" enough electrons from an active element (active being radioactive) and then secondly, how to channel them in a coherent beam. Answer for first problem came through Ph. D. thesis of one of his students, Ashutosh Bhattacharya. Professor Bose liked Bhattacharya's thesis so much that he approached DRDO for grants to study the feasibility of his ideas.

Recognizing the potential of his research, DRDO chief Tyagrajan immediately contacted BARC and a grant was arranged for Professor Bose and his protégé Bhattacharya. Armed with a grant from DRDO and BARC they were able to "excite" enough electrons and at the same time use the magnetic field generated to direct electrons in a coherent beam. For any one not involved in the project, the project was termed "Super conducting magnet’s effect on generating electricity", but in reality the project has no name.

Today was the culmination of all the research. A monster of a prototype of was built which will either validate what they have proposed or put them back on the drawing board.

The prototype they were building occupied an area of 1600 cubic meter and was completely 10 meters under the ground with a direct connection to electric generating capacity of BARC reactor. Spent fuel from the reactors was used as raw material from which to "excite electrons". Above the ground there was a rotating dome like the old AWACS planes. This dome was where the beam of electrons will go out and hit a PC stationed 500 meters away.


Just as soon as the switch was thrown, the merry go round electrons in spent fuel from the reactors starting gaining energy, and for the nuclear physicist in you, left their ideal energy state. The electric current in the magnets created a positive charge on one end, and electrons (which are negatively charged) herded towards that path. The path kept getting narrower till it was in the form of a coherent beam 0.01 mm thick. This beam got out of the dome, and hit the PC circuit for a microsecond. For a moment nothing happened, but then the herd of electrons did its work. They started interrupting the 0's and 1's in the PC and soon enough in couple of milliseconds, these 0's and 1's were scrambled enough to make PC circuitry go awry and make it useless.


This all took around 50 minutes, but this included the warming up time, so the prototype was deemed successful. And best of all, the PC was working again as soon as it was rebooted and "Electron dispenser" was not aimed at it.
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September 2, 2009,

Blame it on the "Chalta Hei" Delhi wala attitude or may be it is just the bureaucracy, it took four years to finish the testing and another four years to build smaller versions of the "Electron dispenser".

Tonight Prime Minister Singh was going to an unspecified location near Akhnoor in J & K to see the actual working piece. In the middle of the night, a UAV took off from Hindon air force base. As soon as it was 50 meters above the ground it hit an invisible wall of electrons, at 55 meters again there was another one and at 60 meters there was another one. That's it folks, UAV was not responding to ground controllers anymore and soon enough it was lost to raging water of Hindon river.

After more bureaucratic hurdles, final go ahead was given to place them across the country to provide an impregnable electronic barrier. Only limitation was tapping in the national grid for electricity and juice this device will suck. But considering the kind of security it provides and the potential havoc it can do to enemy's electronics, and of course all the lives it can save, (Indian lives of course), the limitations or its effects on general populace (in terms of less electricity for them) was deemed acceptable.

The range of the "Electron dispenser" was changeable but it could be extended to 1000 kilometers in each direction. All it needed was huge amounts of electricity, so they were placed in Poonch, Uri, Srinagar, Jammu, Amritsar, Bikaner, Utterlai Airstrip near Baitu, Jamnagar, Mumbai, Goa and Kochin on the West side of Border. On eastern side they were placed near Leh, Rohtang Pass, Uttarkashi, Pitthoragarh, Tala in Bhutan, Tawang, Digboi, Calcutta, Puri, Vishakhapattanam and Chennai.
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Question:

Guys, how do I upload/show an image?
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vivek, you'll find the rules as well as a tutorial in the first post of the misc pictures thread.

just remember not to post large inline images that screw up page format, thumbnails would be preferred.
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vivek_ahuja wrote:
Kongara’s men had to be more careful than the other BMP Groups because Group GREEN was the set of BMP-IIs carrying friendly infantry soldiers in them to help storm the Chinese trenches when the time came. In this case one Company worth of 7TH Battalion of the Punjab Regiment were currently travelling with the advancing BMPs under Kongara’s command. Seven soldiers plus three crew members per vehicle, the cost of losing even a single vehicle in the group could be catastrophic. And yet that was the inevitability of war...
i always thought that mech inf had their inf troops within their own Battllions. so could someone explain why 7 punjab troops are being carried in bmp2's ??

but overall great post.
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