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Been visiting BR for 12 years now - don't post very often but have been building models for 30 years - airplanes, ships, tanks - everything. Latest project: building a hurricane and oscar diorama to recreate the IAF's only Air to Air kill in ww2 that I know of. I have more than 100 models (plastic, resin and balsa) waiting to be built - wish I had more time...sigh
Jagan, I had sent some pictures of a few models I had built August last year. Since that would put me over 5 you said you would send me the set up page. Haven't heard back.
On another note: I am also building a T-55, Athay Pauk and Kilo class submarine. Who do I get in touch for the Army and Navy modeling pages?
mods i have a pooch - i have built lots of scale models and i want to exhibit it here but the problem is none of them are in indian colours :/ what should i do ? they are or will be in the armed forces inventory, so can i upload them ????
X-Posting (with shameless attempt at increase phokat ka post count ):
Some pics of a IAF SU-30K model I had built in 2002, when they were first being inducted at Lohegaon. Took the pics since I am not sure whether the model itself will survive till I R2I (can't believe it lasted 8 years). Model is scratch built with cardboard structure, crumpled aluminium foil skin, canopy made from projector transparency, metal wires and scale based on Eyeball Mk.1.
Posting some more pics though not of Armed forces (hence, OT) - It is of an Indian Railways WDM2 diesel loco with a Rajdhani Express AC sleeper class coach. Same building materials as the SU-30K and built in 2002.
^^The best you can get without a uncle/aunty in HAL etc. would be at places like IAF museum Palam where they sell all metal models but dont expect superb details or anything even close to what an OOB hobby kit produces (leave alone one using aftermarket etched metal or resin parts).
Always had a fascination for building model ships. As a kid had grown up building many a model (WW2 era warships and older fully rigged man-o-wars, sails, canons and all). It helped that we lived right next to an NCC Batt. HQ where there was a full dept. dedicated to building model ships. The staff helped procure balsa for me and by bro.
as a teenager, i converted a mig21 model kit into a 1971 config FL with gun pod and built a diorama of it launching a K13 against a starfighter handpainted the 'dirty silver' finish and IAF roundels and used cotton wool for the missile exhaust. used to hang from my ceiling
tushar_m wrote:You can actually buy Su 27/35 & just add canards in the front with extra servos (for canards movement ) .
Su27/35 do come with thrust vectoring engines so with canards its almost SU30mki
Actually, I have a Su-35 model. I added canards and made them movable using a separate channel. However, it doesn't fly any better than the base model. Reasons for that are the difference in TWR from the actual plane and an aeromodel, scale effect and the different Reynold's number in which they operate. You can hold the model in high alpha moving forward at 10-20 kmph because of the TWR. At that speed the the canard can hardly develop strong enough vortices to stop the flow from separating. Also the TVC coupled with the high TWR creates much larger pitching moment than the moving surfaces, almost to the point that you are not in control. There was no way that I could add or comprehend how to add further commands using the canards. I played around a bit using the canards like inboard ailerons and airbrakes before just fixing it up for good . This is the same experience my friend had with his Eurofighter.
NRao wrote:You can build your own. I had once started work on a MKI, which required special attention due to the number of moving parts. The LCA should be much easier.
I tried building the LCA wing many times. It is very difficult to build without a mould. I tried cutting and sanding it out of foam. I got near but never close enough to my satisfaction.
Well, models means taking a few short cuts.
When i started my MKI I had two things going for me:
1) A guy with eons of knowledge on building models. And,he had worked on all sorts of planes, but never heard of the "MKI" - with canards, which is what got his juices flowing. My 6+' long model was to scale and I built everything first in foam and then a -ve with plaster of paris, then to fiber (auto body stuff). Not easy. Messy. Smelly. Need well aired areas to work with. And winters do not help.
2) I was stationed in Dayton, OH when in 2011 the Jet World Championships took place:
So, I made a few friends who helped me out. I first decided to go electric, then switched to "jet" - read EXPENSIVE.
(you may see me in that vid. Also will post some of my pictures from then. They are amazing. These planes are *not* small - most are around 10' long. And they are powered by actual jets - one of the evndors was then looking to hook up with someone in India - to sell them there.)