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Re: Indian Military Aviation

Postby Ameet » 04 Oct 2010 11:01

India takes first steps towards own regional aircraft ... ft/410110/

The Rs 3,000-4,000 crore project was set-in motion a month earlier by the Defense Research and Development Organisation. National Aeronautics Limited is the nodal agency for the design of the aircraft. Hindustan Aeronautics Limited is expected to produce it.

The project is expected to give a shot in the arm to the aviation sector in the country. RTA is more suitable to reach places within a 500-km radius. The aircraft would have a range of 600 km to 800 km. HAL and the NAL have not decided on many aspects of the aircraft such as work share, funding and even whether the aircraft will have a turbo-prop or turbo jet engine. NAL had held discussions with Pratt & Whitney (Canada) and General Electric (US) for an engine.

Quest Global, the outsourced manufacturing company, is now in the design team for RTA. It hopes to be involved in the manufacturing too.

About 400 of these regional jets are expected to be manufactured. Of these, 200 will go to the armed forces.

From India, for supplying the avionics system, companies like TCS, Accord Software and Systems, HAL Edgewood, Axis Technology, participated to get more information on the future requirements.

The project has got the sanction for the first stage with a funding of about Rs 300 crore which has already been given by the government. This stage involves high-level design. “Additional funding will be secured as the project makes progress,” said sources from NAL.

It will be a combination of Indian and foreign avionics. Rockwell Collins and Diehl Aerospace, the German aerospace firm, are among companies vying to bag the project to supply some of the systems. Indian engineering helps reduce engineering costs.

The MROs in Nagpur and elsewhere and the aerospace park in Belgaum of Quest are helping build capacity. The sub-assemblies and sub-systems may be brought in as part of the offset programme.

India has been well behind other countries that are developing an RTA. Japan, in 10 years, has managed to develop the Mitsubishi RJ.

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Re: Indian Military Aviation

Postby Pratyush » 04 Oct 2010 12:16

Guys, just curious, is the budget of 3000 to 4000 crs realistic for a RTA.

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Re: Indian Military Aviation

Postby Singha » 04 Oct 2010 12:22

for systems integration and basic airframe - maybe. for serious new age wing/engine - no. I dont think they will attempt anything radical and engine will be imported. parts like cockpit instruments, wheels, hydraulics are available on market.

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Re: Indian Military Aviation

Postby vic » 04 Oct 2010 12:26

If we look at the size of MRTA and compare it with A320, B737, C-130 or E390 then it seems that it will have MTOW of something like 80-90 tons rather than only 65-68 tons. It strongly seems that 65-68 tons is a understatement, wonder why? I think initially it was positioned to replace An-32 therefore it is always stated to have low MTOW of something like 50 ton or 55 tons. Now we have gone up to 65-68 tons but the real MTOW from a proper airstrip at sea level may be upto 80-90 tons with growth upto 90-110 tons built with minor improvements in wing and enchanced commercial engines

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Re: Indian Military Aviation

Postby Austin » 04 Oct 2010 14:37

Well the first thing we should ask is which is the target market for MRTA , Indian Civil Aviation/Indian Military or Global Market , if its the latter then they should identify the Market ,Funding ,Customers, Forecasted Numbers and Potential rivals.

Global Civil Market is very highly competitive where a delay in induction of a year would mean loss of many orders and potential loss of market and project , they should have defined time lines and risk sharing partners in place that can help meet the goals.

If its Indian Military Aviation then some delays would be acceptable but they need to sell them in good numbers and make good of this venture.

How is MRTA different from Passenger Variant of MTA ?

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Re: Indian Military Aviation

Postby Kailash » 04 Oct 2010 14:44

US clears Hawkeye E-2D aircraft for India

Now,how did i miss that one :)

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Re: Indian Military Aviation

Postby Rahul M » 04 Oct 2010 14:55

please start a new thread and put a link of this one in it.

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