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Re: International Military Discussion

Postby Singha » 10 Sep 2018 12:40

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Re: International Military Discussion

Postby Neshant » 10 Sep 2018 14:30

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^^ They are all relying on the US to come save their ass in the event of a war with Russia.

That's what the low numbers of tanks and planes suggest.

Trump is right to ask them to pay their share of the US defence budget.

The numerous (Soviet origin) tanks in Poland are remanants of the Cold War.

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Re: International Military Discussion

Postby brar_w » 10 Sep 2018 16:19

They should not be paying "their share of the US defense budget" whatever that means. This is not how this is supposed to work. The past 3 US presidents have put pressure on NATO partners to establish and then get closer to the desired 2% GDP on defense. More important than this is an outcome and capability-based approach which is currently happening concurrently (define capability gaps and then plug them). As expected, some nations have responded positively and had plans to plug those gaps. France and UK are a perfect example as both have realized that they need to do this. Germany still lags, and despite talk there of being less reliant on the US presence and support, they haven't really backed that up with cold hard cash. Trump is just talking about it loudly compared to Obama and Bush but there should have been no doubt in Europe that they needed to step up once Obama announced that long-term, the US will be pivoting 60% of its presence to the Asia-Pacific (now Indo-Pacific) region of responsibility.

This chart from 2016 is a bit dated, but good indication of where things were then. Last year Greece also achieved the 2% target. This year the NATO Secretary General expects 8 Nations to be at or above 2% adding Lithuania and Latvia and later France as well. Of course the Trade Wars may get a lot more nations closer to 2% GDP by tanking their economies but then that is not the right way to go about it :rotfl:

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