Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby arshyam » 05 Jul 2019 23:13

I would be happy if they simply made MoD allocations non-lapsable.

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Postby nam » 05 Jul 2019 23:45

arshyam wrote:I would be happy if they simply made MoD allocations non-lapsable.


Let's take the example of MMRCA purchase. It started off in 2004 and sort of concluded in 2016. For 12 years, let's say you add 2 billion "non-lapsable" fund. You have 24 billion by 2016.

Contract negotiated with Dassault to pay 8 billion over 15-20 years. Signing amount 1 billion. What will you do with the remaining 23 billion? which has been lying in the bank for 12 years and not even considering interest, which would in real probably given you you close to 35 billion!

Money which could have been used for other important project, lying in bank un-used, becoz GoI & MoD took 12 years to sign the contract!

The problem is not the money.. the problem is out procurement process and import habit, which becomes expensive due to inflation.

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby nam » 06 Jul 2019 00:03

Let's list out the "modernization" requirement, big items

Army:
Tanks: IA wants only T90. Having been producing 100 per year.
IFV: FRCV is stuck in the "process". Cheaper to upgrade BMP with new engine, armour and probably an APS, but not considered.
Artilery: Dhanush, OFB cannot produce fast enough. ATAGS still in trials. K9 SPH on track, IA does not want large numbers
Ammo: OFB cannot produce fast enough..

Airforce:
Want more squadron: Does not want LCA MK1 production to be ramped up. does not more Su30, Want only uber expensive and imported Rafale and we have to pay 3 times the actual price for ToT to HAL ! No one in sane mind to want TOT at 3 times the price.

5G option: This is true modernaisation. But what are the option? No one except US has a 5G solution. And we don't want F35! Neither IAF wants to spend on AMCA!

Navy:
Our shipyard is full of orders and cannot finish on time! No money throwing is going to help.
SSN: Only PSU can build this and cannot build fast enough.
And please don't tell me a nuke carrier is a critical modernization requirement.

Local Production:
As the amount of local production, specially private, the cost of equipment will come down. 10 sqd of firangi SAM would cost 4-5 times more than 10 sqd of Akash.


So where do we intend to spend on extra 2-3 billion in the next 1 year?

Our problem is our procurement process. Not money. MoD cannot answer the simple question, while asking for money. GoI: where do you intend to spend it?

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby Vips » 06 Jul 2019 17:57

Budget 2019: Duty exemption to improve cash flow of forces.

The withdrawal of customs duty on imported defence items that are not manufactured in India is likely to improve cash flow for the armed forces but a lack of additional funds is expected to hit defence modernisation.

Finance minister Nirmala Sitharaman reversed the customs duty on defence items that was imposed in 2016, a move that will reduce paperwork for the forces. Prior to this, customs duty paid for such items was loaded onto the purchase price by foreign vendors, creating an unnecessary bureaucratic chain. Interests of Indian manufacturers will be protected as the exemption has been given to only those items that are not made in India.
Defence minister Rajnath Singh said that the move will augment the defence budget by Rs 25,000 crore on account of savings in expenditure on customs duty over the next five years (Benefit of just 5,000 Crores a year)

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby abhik » 08 Jul 2019 07:11

Budget 2019: Defence allocation disappoints military - The Hindu

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/ ... 313288.ece
Navy and Air Force have no money left for new deals, and may default on earlier payments as well

I'd watch out for attempts to squeeze other PSUs like they are doing to HAL.

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Postby Nikhil T » 24 Jul 2019 05:12

Modi 2.0 spent Rs 8,500 crore in emergency purchases
https://www.rediff.com/news/report/modi ... 190723.htm

In the first 50 days of its second term in office, the Narendra Modi government has spent around Rs 8,500 crore on the acquisition of weapon systems including missiles and spares for the Indian Army and the Air Force.

According to defence ministry sources, the Indian Air Force has spent around Rs 8,000 crore in procuring missiles such as the Spice-2000, Strum Ataka ATGMs and a large number of spares under the emergency procurement route.

The ministry sources said some of the projects were initiated before the 2019 elections have been concluded after the government was formed.

After the Pulwama attack, the Central government had given emergency powers to the three services to buy whatever equipment is required by them for safeguarding the borders with Pakistan.

Under the powers given, the security forces can buy the equipment of their choice within three months at the cost of up to Rs 300 crore per case.Under the powers given to services, the IAF has acquired the Spice-2000 stand-off weapon systems along with a number of spares from Russia. Several contracts have been signed with the Russians for air to air missile to immediately match up the range of the Pakistani fighter jets for beyond visual range contract.


Preparing for a new jhapad?

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby jaysimha » 26 Aug 2019 13:40

Press Information Bureau
Government of India
Ministry of Defence
25-July-2019 17:29 IST

Raksha Mantri Shri Rajnath Singh Launches Dashboard for effective monitoring on Key Initiatives of Defence Production

Raksha Mantri Shri Rajnath Singh launched here today a Dashboard of Department Defence Production (DDP), Ministry of Defence, to help in effective monitoring of various initiatives and schemes of the department.

Secretary (Defence Production) Dr Ajay Kumar explained the features and the main objectives of the Dashboard. He informed that through this initiative, the Ministry will be able to keep track of the major components of Defence Production, including defence exports, defence offsets, Intellectual Property Rights (Number of Patents registered) and MissionRaksha Gyan Shakti. He also gave a detailed account of the subjects on which the Dashboard will have capsulated information in a user-friendly interface that include defence projects under ‘Make in India’, startups in defence sector, investments in defence corridors in Uttar Pradesh and Tamil Nadu and artificial intelligence projects in defence.

The dashboard is available for the general public at http://www.ddpdashboard.gov.in Some of the data on the dashboard is available for restricted viewing under accesscontrol.

Raksha Rajya Mantri Shri Shripad Yesso Naik and other senior officials of the Ministry were present on the occasion.

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https://pib.gov.in/newsite/PrintRelease.aspx?relid=192257

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Postby Sumeet » 27 Aug 2019 12:25

Wondering if current generation of ELW 2090 AWACS also features GaN technology for AESA radar like ELW 2085 CAEW offered on GulfStream ?

ELW 2085:
https://www.iai.co.il/p/elw-2085-caew

ELW 2090:
https://www.iai.co.il/p/elw-2090

2 AWACS, air-to-air missiles on agenda for Netanyahu visit

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is expected to visit India for a day two weeks from now. On the agenda are the acquisition of two more Airborne Warning and Control Systems (AWACS) and extended range air to air Derby missiles by the Indian Air Force and joint projects in agriculture, water and waste management.

Top diplomats based in New Delhi and Tel Aviv said on condition of anonymity that an advanced security liaison team from Israel will land in Delhi on September 2 to prepare ground for the prime ministerial visit. While the exact date has not been decided, Netanyahu is expected to meet his friend Prime Minister Narendra Modi either on September 7 or 8.

Arriving in India a week before the September 17 general elections in Israel, Netanyahu is expected to endorse Modi government’s scrapping of articles 370 and 35 A in Kashmir as an internal matter and support the bilateral resolution of issues between India and Pakistan, the diplomats said.

Although the two allies typically play down the defence content of the across-the-spectrum relationship, India plans to order two PHALCON AWACS mounted on Russian A-50 platform (worth $ 2 billion) for better control of the war theatre .

The order is awaiting a green signal from the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS).

While India has five AWACS platforms, Pakistan already has seven such with another three on order from China. Islamabad already has three SAAB Erieye and four ZDK-03 from China, which were deployed 24X7 after the Balakot air strike by the Indian Air Force on a terrorist facility in Pakistan. Given this differential, IAF deployed AWACS for only 12 hours a day.

The IAF is also looking towards the acquisition of extended range Derby air to air missiles from Israel after Pakistan used 70 km AIM-120 C 100 kilometre beyond visual range missiles against Indian jets in its February 27 retaliation to the Balakot strike.

IAF wants to integrate the 70 kilometre range Derby missiles on the Su-30 MKI platform with upgraded radar equipped with data link to take the fight to Pakistani F-16s in future.

India and Israel are jointly developing the short, medium and long range surface to air missiles in collaboration with the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO).


Apart from the defence agenda, PM Modi is looking towards his Israeli counterpart to provide high-end technologies to provide potable water to each home as well as manage waste. Israel has mastered the technology to convert sea water into potable water with desalination projects in Ashkelon and Hadera through reverse osmosis.

Both countries are already collaborating the fields of start-ups as well as agricultural technologies focused on irrigation and productivity.

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Postby Kartik » 29 Aug 2019 04:54

India's HAL deepens private sector engagement through Make II initiative

India’s Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) will make about 4,000 components used in military-aerospace production available for outsourcing to the country's private sector during fiscal year (FY) 2019–20.

The outsourcing initiative – framed through the Indian government’s ‘Make-II’ procurement category – features parts including fasteners and bearings, a wide range of “consumables” and line-replaceable units (LRUs), and items described as mechanical, rubber, electrical, and avionics.

The components, recently detailed in a tweet by India’s defence secretary Ajay Kumar, number 3,750 through a series of new projects, with the total value of subcontracting opportunities cited at about INR101 billion (USD1.4 billion). The largest segments in terms of value comprise opportunities to produce mechanical items and LRUs, which are worth INR39.2 billion and INR36.3 billion respectively.

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Postby Kartik » 29 Aug 2019 04:56

Rafael- Astra Microwave JV in India launches military communications facility


A joint venture (JV) between Indian company Astra Microwave and Israel’s Rafael Advanced Defense Systems launched a facility in Hyderabad on 27 August to develop and produce military communications systems for India and export markets.

The JV, which is named Astra Rafael Comsys (ARC), will be positioned to meet the Israeli company’s offset requirements. In terms of capabilities, its initial project will be to licence-build software-defined radios (SDRs) for the Indian military. Subsequently, it will also look to produce and support other communications systems, as well as electronic warfare and signals intelligence equipment.

According to reports, the two companies have invested INR350 million (USD4.8 million) in developing the facility, which will be supported by a new research and production centre in 18 months.

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby Vips » 14 Sep 2019 02:45

Defence Ministry clears acquisition of military hardware worth Rs 2,000 crore.

The Defence Ministry on Friday accorded approval for procurement of weapons and military platforms amounting to around Rs 2,000 crore. The Defence Acquisition Council, the ministry's highest decision-making body on procurement, cleared the proposals.

"The DAC, chaired by Defence Minister Rajnath Singh accorded approval for capital procurement for the services amounting to approximately Rs 2,000 crore," a defence ministry spokesperson said.

The DAC accorded approval for indigenous development and production of ammunition for T72 and T90 tanks by the Indian industry.

"The DAC also approved procurement of DRDO-developed and industry manufactured mechanical mine layer (self propelled) to improve automated mine laying capability with the Indian Army," the official said.

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby Karan M » 14 Sep 2019 02:48

By "Indian industry" - gives an opportunity for all pvt vendors to break into the 125mm tank ammo market, hitherto the preserve of OFB.

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Postby srai » 14 Sep 2019 06:00

Karan M wrote:By "Indian industry" - gives an opportunity for all pvt vendors to break into the 125mm tank ammo market, hitherto the preserve of OFB.

Positive move. Unlike OFB, private entities, like VEM, go on to improve upon often “bulky” DRDO products. Innovation takes off.

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby ramana » 02 Nov 2019 06:08

A beautiful summary of Indian purchases of arms grom 1960s


https://twitter.com/singhshwetabh71/sta ... 68001?s=19

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Postby ramana » 02 Nov 2019 07:24

I am posting that picture for it tells us a tale!!!

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Postby jaysimha » 02 Nov 2019 14:16

Major activities of Department of Defence for the month of August,September 2019
https://mod.gov.in/dod/sites/default/fi ... ug2019.pdf
https://mod.gov.in/dod/sites/default/fi ... 1019_0.pdf

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Postby Kakkaji » 03 Nov 2019 03:08

Customs, GST relief to give Rs 60,000-cr boost to defence

NEW DELHI: India’s defence budget will be augmented by more than Rs 60,000 crore over the next five years owing to exemptions from customs duty and goods and services tax (GST) that kicked in on October 1, said people aware of the matter.

They said estimates by the Rajnath Singh-led defence ministry show that the twin exemptions will significantly impact its budget and free up resources for modernisation and replenishment of equipment.

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby Vips » 05 Nov 2019 18:49

Why unlocking defence land bank to meet military's needs isn't a bad idea.

GoI's step to amend the terms of reference of the 15th Finance Commission (FC) so as to address “serious concerns regarding the allocation of adequate, secure and non-lapsable funds for defence and internal security of India” is unprecedented. It has opened doors to previously unchartered territory — the raising of funds from other sources for India’s defence.

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby ramana » 06 Nov 2019 02:18

Vips wrote:Why unlocking defence land bank to meet military's needs isn't a bad idea.

GoI's step to amend the terms of reference of the 15th Finance Commission (FC) so as to address “serious concerns regarding the allocation of adequate, secure and non-lapsable funds for defence and internal security of India” is unprecedented. It has opened doors to previously unchartered territory — the raising of funds from other sources for India’s defence.



There is a big land mafia like Damadji and his ilk in BJP too waiting to pounce on these cantonment lands in heart of cities.

If services were not so import crazy its possible to equip them without these prime land sales.

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby Cybaru » 06 Nov 2019 04:00

It is a stupid idea.. Land grabbers trying to rationalize cheap land acquisition.

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby Nikhil T » 06 Nov 2019 05:37

ramana wrote:



There is a big land mafia like Damadji and his ilk in BJP too waiting to pounce on these cantonment lands in heart of cities.

If services were not so import crazy its possible to equip them without these prime land sales.


Setting aside the conspiracy theories, this would have been a good idea if Govt had land available to develop new Cantts. We simply don't! Unlike America, where most population is urban, our population lives in the villages. It's not like the Govt has free land available sitting with it outside the cities or that land acquisition in villages is easy.

If the overall goal is to get more money in defence budget, there is no running away from having to reduce our manpower and increasing indigenous equipment vs. a fascination for uber expensive weapons.

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby ramana » 06 Nov 2019 05:50

Just raise GST is thats the need.


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Postby Vips » 05 Dec 2019 19:16

Since 2014, MoD inked around 180 deals with local industry.

The Ministry of Defence has signed more than 180 contracts worth Rs 1,96,000 crore with the Indian industry since 2014 while a few are in the pipeline to be signed in the near future, the ministry said on Thursday.

"A contract for manufacture of frigates under Project P 17A was signed in February 2015 with Mazagon Dockyards Limited (MDL), Mumbai valued worth Rs 45,000 crore while two frigates under Project P1135.6 are slated to be manufactured by Goa Shipyard Limited (GSL) under a contract signed in October 2018 worth Rs 14,100 crore," said Defence Ministry in a statement.

Further, contracts for manufacture of 41 Advanced Light Helicopters for Indian Air Force (IAF) and 32 ALH for Indian Navy (IN) have been signed with Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) in March 2017 and December 2017 with a combined value of Rs 14,100 crore.

This is in addition to procurement of 14 Dornier 228 aircraft from HAL worth Rs 1,100 crore through a contract signed in February 2015. Seven Squadrons of Akash Missile System are being procured from BEL through a contract of October 2019 valued at Rs 6,300 crore as also the Integrated Advanced Command and Control System (IACCS) Nodes valuing Rs 7,900 crore.

The Ordnance Factory Board has been tasked to supply 464 T-90S/SK tanks worth Rs 19,100 crore for which indent has been placed by the Ministry as recently as November 2019.

Also 100 155x52mm caliber self-propelled guns are being procured under the 'Make in India' initiative of the government from L&T worth Rs 4,300 crore. Also a contract for modernization of airfield infrastructure (MAFI) to be executed through Indian vendors is under final stages of contracting.

The Services have also placed a number of contracts for private sector vendors such as Titagarh Wagons Ltd, Force Motors Pvt Ltd, Tata Power SED, Tech Mahindra Ltd, Tata Motor Ltd, Ashok Leyland Ltd, Bharat Forge Ltd, MKU Ltd, SMPP Delhi, Alpha Design for items like 1000 Tons Fuel Barges, Light Strike Vehicles, Portable Diver Detection Sonar (PDDS), RFID based SMART Card, 6x6 and 8x8 High Mobility Vehicle with Material Handling Crane, Dual Technology Mine Detector, Ballistic Helmet, Bullet Proof Jacket (BPJ) and Integrated Gunnery.

Three of the cases P-75(I) Submarines, Naval Utility Helicopters (NUH) and 114 Fighter Jets for IAF, shown as stuck in the long-winded procedures are the cases which are being progressed under SP Model (a procurement procedure, which in itself has been promulgated in May 2017 as part of DPP-2016).

Under Innovations for Defence Excellence (iDEX), forty plus startups are working in new technology-related products.

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby Nikhil T » 06 Dec 2019 00:45

I wish MoD would just issue a list of Indian contracts that adds up to Rs 1,96,000 crores instead of this poorly written Press Release. It would also be good to see the value of contracts it has signed with foreign companies.
https://pib.gov.in/PressReleseDetail.aspx?PRID=1595028

Anyway, I found it funny that MoD acknowledges that P-75, NUH, and 114 IAF jets are "stuck in the long-winded procedures".

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby abhik » 06 Dec 2019 03:11

What would make it even more infomative is how much money did not go to local industry.

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby Karan M » 06 Dec 2019 04:10

115K crores (approx) are detailed out of the 196K crores they reference.

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby Gyan » 07 Dec 2019 20:51

For instance MRSAM LRSAM projects are called Indian DRDO DRDO projects. But Indian Contribution is only 13%

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby Indranil » 07 Dec 2019 22:08

Where is the 13% coming from?

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby Karan M » 08 Dec 2019 04:55

Can't be that low.

MRSAM following systems are known to be Indian design & developed.
Missiles - warhead, actuation, motor
C3I - Tata ASL/DRDL
Launchers - VRDE
Cooling system for the radar - pvt sector.
TRM modules for the radar - likely, as offsets as earlier radar orders for the same/similar design had the TRM sourced from India

Apart from this the missiles are being built in India, and likely the radars are being assembled or at least calibrated in India.


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