Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments
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Govt Accounts are Cash based, Highly unlikely that 70,000 crores can be disbursed before 31 March
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Would be handy to make advance payments for Rafale for Navy/Air Force. It would be a criminal waste to return already allocated money when funds shortage is cited as the chief reason for the slow acquisitions.
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Defence ministry sign contract worth 2,585 Crores with L & T for procurement of modilar bridges.
The Ministry of Defence on Wednesday approved the proposal to indigenously manufacture 41 sets of Modular Bridges for the Corps of Engineers of the Indian Army. The move is seen as a boost to the indigenization of defence equipment under PM Modi.
The defence ministry called it a game-changing bridge which is designed and developed by Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) and shall be produced by Larsen & Toubro (L&T) as a DRDO-nominated production agency.
The ministry signed the procurement contract of Modular Bridges with L&T on Wednesday at an estimated cost of ₹2,585 crore.
“Each set of Modular Bridge shall consist of seven carrier vehicles based on 8x8 Heavy Mobility Vehicles and two launcher vehicles based on 10x10 Heavy Mobility Vehicles. Each set shall be capable of mechanically launching a single span fully decked 46-meter assault bridge. The bridge can be employed over various types of obstacles like canals & ditches with quick launching and retrieval capabilities," the defence ministry said in a statement.
The press release from the ministry added that the equipment is highly mobile, versatile, rugged, and capable of keeping pace with wheeled and tracked mechanized vehicles.
These modular bridges will replace the manually-launched Medium Girder Bridges (MGB) that are currently being used in the Indian Army. The new modular bridges will have additional advantages like increased span, less time for construction, and mechanical launching with retrieval capability.
“The procurement of these bridges will give a major boost to the bridging capability of the Indian Army on the Western Front. The project will showcase India’s progress in designing and developing world class military equipment and pave the way for enhancing defence exports to friendly countries," the press release said.
The Ministry of Defence on Wednesday approved the proposal to indigenously manufacture 41 sets of Modular Bridges for the Corps of Engineers of the Indian Army. The move is seen as a boost to the indigenization of defence equipment under PM Modi.
The defence ministry called it a game-changing bridge which is designed and developed by Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) and shall be produced by Larsen & Toubro (L&T) as a DRDO-nominated production agency.
The ministry signed the procurement contract of Modular Bridges with L&T on Wednesday at an estimated cost of ₹2,585 crore.
“Each set of Modular Bridge shall consist of seven carrier vehicles based on 8x8 Heavy Mobility Vehicles and two launcher vehicles based on 10x10 Heavy Mobility Vehicles. Each set shall be capable of mechanically launching a single span fully decked 46-meter assault bridge. The bridge can be employed over various types of obstacles like canals & ditches with quick launching and retrieval capabilities," the defence ministry said in a statement.
The press release from the ministry added that the equipment is highly mobile, versatile, rugged, and capable of keeping pace with wheeled and tracked mechanized vehicles.
These modular bridges will replace the manually-launched Medium Girder Bridges (MGB) that are currently being used in the Indian Army. The new modular bridges will have additional advantages like increased span, less time for construction, and mechanical launching with retrieval capability.
“The procurement of these bridges will give a major boost to the bridging capability of the Indian Army on the Western Front. The project will showcase India’s progress in designing and developing world class military equipment and pave the way for enhancing defence exports to friendly countries," the press release said.
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ATAGS to BrahMos: Centre clears defence proposals worth Rs 70,500 crore.
The defence ministry on Thursday approved proposals worth over Rs 70,500 crore for buying different weapon systems for the armed forces.All the planned procurements are under the Buy (Indian-IDDM) category in a boost to the government's Aatmanirbhar Bharat (self-reliance) programme.
The go-ahead to the fresh procurement proposals came amid the nearly three-year-long standoff along the Line of Actual Control in eastern
Ladakh with China.
Giving details about the approvals, officials said that the Defence Acqusitions Council (DAC), chaired by defence minister Rajnath Singh, has
given an Acceptance of Necessity (AoN) for the procurement of 307 advanced towed artillery gun systems (ATAGS) for the Army.
The indigenous 155mm/52 caliber ATAGS has been developed by DRDO with Bharat Forge & Tata Advanced Systems being the production partners.
The DAC also cleared the procurement proposal for 200 more BrahMos supersonic cruise missiles with an extended range for the frontline warships of the Navy.
Among other warships, these missiles will also be for the four Project-15B destroyers (two INS Visakhapatnam and INS Mormugao have been commissioned) as well as seven Project-17A frigates (five `launched’ in water till now).
Besides these, DAC has also approved Shakti EW systems & Utility Helicopters-Maritime, valued at Rs 56,000 crore for Indian Navy as well as Long Range Stand-Off Weapon for the Indian Air Force to be integrated on SU-30 MKI aircraft.
The total approval granted for capital acquisition in the financial year 2022-23 now stands at Rs 2,71,538 crore, of which 98.9 per cent will be sourced from Indian industries, the officials said.
"Such quantum of indigenous procurement will not only galvanize the Indian industries towards achieving the goal of 'Aatmanirbhar Bharat' (self-reliant India) but also reduce India's dependency on foreign vendors to a large extent," Singh's office tweeted.
The defence ministry on Thursday approved proposals worth over Rs 70,500 crore for buying different weapon systems for the armed forces.All the planned procurements are under the Buy (Indian-IDDM) category in a boost to the government's Aatmanirbhar Bharat (self-reliance) programme.
The go-ahead to the fresh procurement proposals came amid the nearly three-year-long standoff along the Line of Actual Control in eastern
Ladakh with China.
Giving details about the approvals, officials said that the Defence Acqusitions Council (DAC), chaired by defence minister Rajnath Singh, has
given an Acceptance of Necessity (AoN) for the procurement of 307 advanced towed artillery gun systems (ATAGS) for the Army.
The indigenous 155mm/52 caliber ATAGS has been developed by DRDO with Bharat Forge & Tata Advanced Systems being the production partners.
The DAC also cleared the procurement proposal for 200 more BrahMos supersonic cruise missiles with an extended range for the frontline warships of the Navy.
Among other warships, these missiles will also be for the four Project-15B destroyers (two INS Visakhapatnam and INS Mormugao have been commissioned) as well as seven Project-17A frigates (five `launched’ in water till now).
Besides these, DAC has also approved Shakti EW systems & Utility Helicopters-Maritime, valued at Rs 56,000 crore for Indian Navy as well as Long Range Stand-Off Weapon for the Indian Air Force to be integrated on SU-30 MKI aircraft.
The total approval granted for capital acquisition in the financial year 2022-23 now stands at Rs 2,71,538 crore, of which 98.9 per cent will be sourced from Indian industries, the officials said.
"Such quantum of indigenous procurement will not only galvanize the Indian industries towards achieving the goal of 'Aatmanirbhar Bharat' (self-reliant India) but also reduce India's dependency on foreign vendors to a large extent," Singh's office tweeted.
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https://twitter.com/livefist/status/163 ... 96610?s=20 ---> All that’s been cleared by the Indian MoD today:
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US keen to partner more with India on defence, wants specific pact for air force, says top Pentagon official
https://theprint.in/defence/us-keen-to- ... l/1461940/
21 March 2023
Pact on ‘air information sharing’ soon: US secretary of Air Force
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 882447.cms
22 March 2023
https://theprint.in/defence/us-keen-to- ... l/1461940/
21 March 2023
Pact on ‘air information sharing’ soon: US secretary of Air Force
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 882447.cms
22 March 2023
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Is this an impending sign of things to come where India will ditch Russia and pick US? I hope that the Indian leaders are not that foolish to do that.Rakesh wrote:US keen to partner more with India on defence, wants specific pact for air force, says top Pentagon official
https://theprint.in/defence/us-keen-to- ... l/1461940/
21 March 2023
Pact on ‘air information sharing’ soon: US secretary of Air Force
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 882447.cms
22 March 2023
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gosh arent they bothered !!Rakesh wrote:US keen to partner more with India on defence, wants specific pact for air force, says top Pentagon official
https://theprint.in/defence/us-keen-to- ... l/1461940/
21 March 2023
"Visiting US Secretary of the Air Force Frank Kendall also flags American concerns about Make in India programme & the challenges it poses to US companies."
now if that is not paradoxical to the whole idea of US India "cooperation"
"You may start with a small fraction but have a "clear" path to get there over a period of time".. oh my how so clever !
and of course dont forget the potential !! “There is more potential there. We are also looking forward to trying and relaxing some of our constraints,”
now who was saying US was going to replace Russia
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
for every american pronouncement, read between the lines !
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US wants pacts and agreements but not info/tech 'sharing' or any 'cooperation'. And neither side of political spectrum has the wherewithal to go against privateers to force it. Even strategic vision and intelligence are outsourced.
No one should have any illusions about it.
No one should have any illusions about it.
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MoD inks contracts for Army and IAF: Air defence ‘Project Akashteer’ and Sarang Electronic systems.
The Ministry of Defence signed three contracts – two with Bharat Electronics Limited (BEL) and one with NewSpace India Limited (NSIL) – at a total cost nearly Rs 5,400 crore.
It will to bolster the defence capabilities of the country, the MoD stated.
The first contract with BEL pertains to the procurement of the Automated Air Defence Control & Reporting System ‘Project Akashteer’ worth Rs 1,982 crore for the Indian Army.
The second contract with BEL relates to the acquisition of Sarang Electronic Support Measure (ESM) systems along with the associated Engineering Support Package from BEL, Hyderabad at an overall cost of Rs 412 crore for the Indian Navy.
The contract with NSIL, a Central Public Sector Enterprise under the Department of Space, Bengaluru pertains to the procurement of an advanced Communication Satellite, GSAT 7B, which will provide High Throughput Services to the Indian Army at an overall cost of Rs 2,963 crore.
According to the official from the MoD, all these projects are under Buy {Indian – IDMM (Indigenously Designed Developed and Manufactured)} category.
Project Akashteer
The Automated Air Defence Control & Reporting System ‘Project Akashteer’ will empower the Air Defence units of the Indian Army with an indigenous, state-of-the-art capability, to effectively operate in an integrated manner.
“Akashteer will enable monitoring of low-level airspace over the battle areas of the Indian Army and effectively control the Ground Based Air Defence Weapon Systems,” said the MoD.
Sarang systems
Sarang is an advanced Electronic Support Measure system for helicopters of the Indian navy, designed and developed indigenously by the Defence Electronics Research Laboratory, Hyderabad under the programme Samudrika.
According to the statement from MoD, both projects will encourage the participation of Indian Electronics and associated industries, including MSMEs, who are sub-vendors of BEL.
Advanced communication satellite
The Advanced communication satellite will considerably enhance the communication capability of the Indian army by providing mission-critical beyond-the-line-of-sight communication to troops and formations as well as weapon and airborne platforms.
The geostationary satellite, being a first-of-its-kind in the five-tonne category, will be developed indigenously by Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO).
According to the MoD, many parts and sub-assemblies and systems will be sourced from indigenous manufacturers, including MSMEs and start-ups, thereby giving a fillip to the private Indian space industry.
The Ministry of Defence signed three contracts – two with Bharat Electronics Limited (BEL) and one with NewSpace India Limited (NSIL) – at a total cost nearly Rs 5,400 crore.
It will to bolster the defence capabilities of the country, the MoD stated.
The first contract with BEL pertains to the procurement of the Automated Air Defence Control & Reporting System ‘Project Akashteer’ worth Rs 1,982 crore for the Indian Army.
The second contract with BEL relates to the acquisition of Sarang Electronic Support Measure (ESM) systems along with the associated Engineering Support Package from BEL, Hyderabad at an overall cost of Rs 412 crore for the Indian Navy.
The contract with NSIL, a Central Public Sector Enterprise under the Department of Space, Bengaluru pertains to the procurement of an advanced Communication Satellite, GSAT 7B, which will provide High Throughput Services to the Indian Army at an overall cost of Rs 2,963 crore.
According to the official from the MoD, all these projects are under Buy {Indian – IDMM (Indigenously Designed Developed and Manufactured)} category.
Project Akashteer
The Automated Air Defence Control & Reporting System ‘Project Akashteer’ will empower the Air Defence units of the Indian Army with an indigenous, state-of-the-art capability, to effectively operate in an integrated manner.
“Akashteer will enable monitoring of low-level airspace over the battle areas of the Indian Army and effectively control the Ground Based Air Defence Weapon Systems,” said the MoD.
Sarang systems
Sarang is an advanced Electronic Support Measure system for helicopters of the Indian navy, designed and developed indigenously by the Defence Electronics Research Laboratory, Hyderabad under the programme Samudrika.
According to the statement from MoD, both projects will encourage the participation of Indian Electronics and associated industries, including MSMEs, who are sub-vendors of BEL.
Advanced communication satellite
The Advanced communication satellite will considerably enhance the communication capability of the Indian army by providing mission-critical beyond-the-line-of-sight communication to troops and formations as well as weapon and airborne platforms.
The geostationary satellite, being a first-of-its-kind in the five-tonne category, will be developed indigenously by Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO).
According to the MoD, many parts and sub-assemblies and systems will be sourced from indigenous manufacturers, including MSMEs and start-ups, thereby giving a fillip to the private Indian space industry.
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Thank god they didn't name it udta teer.
Which moron comes up with names like that?
Which moron comes up with names like that?
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Akash Teer = Sky Arrow
Matches Army Air Defence logo.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... dia%29.svg
It's a very significant program and a long delayed one as DRDO- BEL struggled to meet IA requirements, given the kind of third party stuff they'd to add to it. Finally cleared trials after a testbed was deployed by BEL, and is now on order. Will allow IA to network all it's disparate but substantial inventory together. They gave a mix of some really old Euro & Russian gear with some really modern Indian and Israeli stuff.
https://twitter.com/DefenceDecode/statu ... 79/photo/1
Most importantly one MRSAM regiment is also starting induction. Huge step forward.
https://www.aninews.in/news/national/ge ... 223205438/
Matches Army Air Defence logo.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... dia%29.svg
It's a very significant program and a long delayed one as DRDO- BEL struggled to meet IA requirements, given the kind of third party stuff they'd to add to it. Finally cleared trials after a testbed was deployed by BEL, and is now on order. Will allow IA to network all it's disparate but substantial inventory together. They gave a mix of some really old Euro & Russian gear with some really modern Indian and Israeli stuff.
https://twitter.com/DefenceDecode/statu ... 79/photo/1
Most importantly one MRSAM regiment is also starting induction. Huge step forward.
https://www.aninews.in/news/national/ge ... 223205438/
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India's defence ministry signs 10 contracts worth Rs 5,498 with Bharat Electronics.
The Ministry of Defence (MoD) has signed 10 contracts totalling Rs 5,498 crore with state-owned aerospace and defence electronics company Bharat Electronics Limited (BEL) for Indian armed forces, the PSU said in a regulatory filing to the stock exchanges on Thursday.
For Indian Air Force, a contract was signed to supply 90 units of Electronic Warfare (EW) Suite Equipment for Medium Lift Helicopter.
Another contract for Akash Missile System was signed for the maintenance of two squadrons. It is a mediumrange surface-to-air missile (SAM) system, developed by DRDO and manufactured by Bharat Electronics. The Akash Missile system can target aircraft upto 30 km away and has the capabilities to neutralise aerial threats like fighter jets, cruise missiles and Air-to-Surface Missiles.
For the Indian Army, contracts for Automated Air Defence Control and Reporting System (Project Akashteer) and Instant Fire Detection and Supressing System IFDSS for T 72 were signed.
Further, for Indian Navy, contracts for Software Defined Radio (1,265 units), HD VLF HF Receiver (1,178 units), and Sarang (12 units), were signed.
Sarangs will be installed on Kamov 31 helicopters of the Indian Navy which intercept, detects and identifies the radar emitters comprising state-of-the-art technologies. The project has been indigenously designed and developed by DLRL and the combat assets have been manufactured by BEL Hyderabad.
Three more projects were signed with Indian Navy -- INS-SA, CMS for P17 and P28, Varuna EW.
"All these are flagship projects showcasing the indigenous design and manufacturing capabilities of Indian Defence industry led by BEL, involving other Public Sectors, Private Sectors and MSMEs. These projects will add another milestone to the 'Atmanirbhar Bharat Abhiyaan' and 'Make in India' initiatives of the Government of India," the exchange filing stated on Thursday.
The Ministry of Defence (MoD) has signed 10 contracts totalling Rs 5,498 crore with state-owned aerospace and defence electronics company Bharat Electronics Limited (BEL) for Indian armed forces, the PSU said in a regulatory filing to the stock exchanges on Thursday.
For Indian Air Force, a contract was signed to supply 90 units of Electronic Warfare (EW) Suite Equipment for Medium Lift Helicopter.
Another contract for Akash Missile System was signed for the maintenance of two squadrons. It is a mediumrange surface-to-air missile (SAM) system, developed by DRDO and manufactured by Bharat Electronics. The Akash Missile system can target aircraft upto 30 km away and has the capabilities to neutralise aerial threats like fighter jets, cruise missiles and Air-to-Surface Missiles.
For the Indian Army, contracts for Automated Air Defence Control and Reporting System (Project Akashteer) and Instant Fire Detection and Supressing System IFDSS for T 72 were signed.
Further, for Indian Navy, contracts for Software Defined Radio (1,265 units), HD VLF HF Receiver (1,178 units), and Sarang (12 units), were signed.
Sarangs will be installed on Kamov 31 helicopters of the Indian Navy which intercept, detects and identifies the radar emitters comprising state-of-the-art technologies. The project has been indigenously designed and developed by DLRL and the combat assets have been manufactured by BEL Hyderabad.
Three more projects were signed with Indian Navy -- INS-SA, CMS for P17 and P28, Varuna EW.
"All these are flagship projects showcasing the indigenous design and manufacturing capabilities of Indian Defence industry led by BEL, involving other Public Sectors, Private Sectors and MSMEs. These projects will add another milestone to the 'Atmanirbhar Bharat Abhiyaan' and 'Make in India' initiatives of the Government of India," the exchange filing stated on Thursday.
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Parliament's Standing Committee on Defence welcomes larger fund allocation
https://www.ajaishukla.com/2023/03/parl ... ee-on.html
29 March 2023
https://www.ajaishukla.com/2023/03/parl ... ee-on.html
29 March 2023
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Atmanirbhar Bharat: Quest for indigenous weaponry
https://www.ajaishukla.com/2023/03/atma ... enous.html
30 March 2023
https://www.ajaishukla.com/2023/03/atma ... enous.html
30 March 2023
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The IN has gulped down the lion's share of the Capex spend before the March 31 deadline. Good on them!
We have 1 more day left. Hoping to see some more juicy deals signed!
We have 1 more day left. Hoping to see some more juicy deals signed!
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Awesome video on defense procurement issues (not just of India, though P75I is referenced here)
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https://twitter.com/AdithyaKM_/status/1 ... 07072?s=20 ---> Memorandum of Cooperation signed with Japan on collaboration for UNICORN during 7th India - Japan Joint Working Group on Defence Equipment & Technology Cooperation between India's DDP & Japan's ATLA. Indian Navy wants to develop Indigenous Integrated Mast (IIM) with BEL in a two phase project.
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NSA Doval meets Macron’s diplomatic adviser ahead of Modi’s France visit, key projects discussed
https://theprint.in/defence/nsa-doval-m ... d/1657864/
06 July 2023
On the discussion menu;
* Additional Scorpenes
* JV for AMCA turbofan
* MRCBF contract + possible MRFA as well
* TOT for missile production (my guess would be Meteor and MICA-NG)
https://theprint.in/defence/nsa-doval-m ... d/1657864/
06 July 2023
On the discussion menu;
* Additional Scorpenes
* JV for AMCA turbofan
* MRCBF contract + possible MRFA as well
* TOT for missile production (my guess would be Meteor and MICA-NG)
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U.S. plans naval logistics hubs in India to counter China
https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/Intern ... nter-China
07 July 2023
https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/Intern ... nter-China
07 July 2023
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Rafale marine, jet engine, submarine: Defence projects likely to be discussed on Modi’s France tour
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https://twitter.com/livefist/status/167 ... 50976?s=20 ---> Key excerpts of the India-France joint communiqué indicates plans on:
* Co-development of AMCA engine
* Adding to Scorpène fleet
* Joint engine for IMRH
* ToT for Shakti engine
* No mention of Rafale, but PM said ‘naval aircraft’
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* Co-development of AMCA engine
* Adding to Scorpène fleet
* Joint engine for IMRH
* ToT for Shakti engine
* No mention of Rafale, but PM said ‘naval aircraft’
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That's the right and smart way to negotiate what ever are the final (price) points being negotiated. The French know the art of seduction very well but we indians know the art of arranged marriage too well onlee ![Wink ;-)](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
And each time the French presstitutes mention "right wing Hindu nationalist" etc, India should decrease it's offer by a million. And I'm not joking!
Money talks but can shut them up as well.
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And each time the French presstitutes mention "right wing Hindu nationalist" etc, India should decrease it's offer by a million. And I'm not joking!
Money talks but can shut them up as well.
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https://twitter.com/BharatShaktiBSI/sta ... 69089?s=20 ---> The 3rd Meeting of the Working Group on Military Cooperation of the Indian-Russian Intergovernmental Commission on Military and Military Technical Cooperation (IRIGC-M&MTC) is underway (July 18-19).
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India, France increase defense ties with new Rafale jet and submarine buys
https://breakingdefense.com/2023/07/ind ... rine-buys/
18 July 2023
https://breakingdefense.com/2023/07/ind ... rine-buys/
18 July 2023
One new MOU that was signed is between Naval Group and India’s Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers, covering technology transfer so that the Indian company can build any of the ships of Naval Group’s Gowind family and sell them to third countries that are friendly to both France and India. That represents a potential major boon for India’s domestic ship building industry, as well as helping with marketing of Naval Group’s wares.
The two companies have previously collaborated to build four anti-submarine corvettes, known as the Kamorta-class corvettes, that were commissioned between 2014 and 2020.
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PM’s Paris Visit: Why Some Defence Deals Were Held Back
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View from Manila: Envisioning a France-PH-India trilateral
https://opinion.inquirer.net/165100/vie ... trilateral
27 July 2023
https://twitter.com/Aaron_MatthewIL/sta ... 79264?s=20 ---> “Further, New Delhi and Paris may look at other forms of joint production to facilitate the security needs of
& other like-minded regional countries.” Considering Manila’s likely choice for their first submarines, it would probably be cheaper to built Scorpènes in India than in France.
https://twitter.com/alpha_defense/statu ... 12000?s=20 ---> MDL can make 11 submarines or 10 ships simultaneously, but they are staffed to make five at a moment. That figure of 11 is to describe the infrastructure.
Cannot verify the claim in the above tweet, but FWIW...
https://opinion.inquirer.net/165100/vie ... trilateral
27 July 2023
https://twitter.com/Aaron_MatthewIL/sta ... 79264?s=20 ---> “Further, New Delhi and Paris may look at other forms of joint production to facilitate the security needs of
https://twitter.com/alpha_defense/statu ... 12000?s=20 ---> MDL can make 11 submarines or 10 ships simultaneously, but they are staffed to make five at a moment. That figure of 11 is to describe the infrastructure.
Cannot verify the claim in the above tweet, but FWIW...
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thats chini level of infrastructure !.. does that translate to 2 to 3 subs a year at least ?Rakesh wrote: ↑01 Aug 2023 22:08 View from Manila: Envisioning a France-PH-India trilateral
https://opinion.inquirer.net/165100/vie ... trilateral
27 July 2023
https://twitter.com/alpha_defense/statu ... 12000?s=20 ---> MDL can make 11 submarines or 10 ships simultaneously, but they are staffed to make five at a moment. That figure of 11 is to describe the infrastructure.
Cannot verify the claim in the above tweet, but FWIW...
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Doctor Saab, please remember that infrastructure capacity does not readily translate into corresponding military capability.
So if a shipyard has the capacity to churn out (example) three submarines a year, that does not necessarily mean that the Navy will have three platforms (with the personnel available) to commission in that same year. Some issues to consider;
1) Platforms are usually paid for during the length of construction. So a certain amount is paid at contract signing, then further amounts are paid during different phases of the construction. Full payment should be completed by the time the vessel is ready for commissioning. This payment schedule is agreed upon and documented during contract negotiations. If the Navy had to pay for all the six Scorpenes signed in 2005 - in a single year - it would have drained out the entire CAPEX for the Navy, for that year. So even if the shipyard could churn out three submarines a year, the question to ask is can the Navy afford to induct three submarines a year, with the CAPEX it has? And that CAPEX varies from year to year.
2) After construction (and pre commissioning) the vessel undergoes several tests (at dock and at sea) to verify specified design parameters. This is done by a mixture of dock personnel and the commissioning crew. Post commissioning, the vessel undergoes further validation exercises by naval personnel. See the Vikrant for example. Commissioned in Sept 2022 and she is still undergoing testing in certain areas. Your crew needs to be on top of their game for this. That requires considerable training and understanding your vessel's capabilities and her quirks. This mastery of training cannot be achieved overnight and runs for a quite of length of time.
It is for this reason that one cannot view infrastructure capacity in a vacuum. It is obviously very important, but it is a symbiotic relationship with the customer involved. This is why when dhoti shivering occurs in BRF (with regards to Chinese shipyards), one has to view it with skepticism. The PLAN is commissioning capital vessels with Captains that have very little experience on the open sea. The lack of proper training with other world blue water navies also greatly adds to this lacuna. The PLAN is still very much in a learning phase.
Also with regards to infrastructure capacity at Chinese shipyards, please note that China is a communist state. There is no public audit of her annual defence budget. Much of it is under wraps. What the ChiComs want, the ChiComs will get. No one questions the Chinese State. So if they want to induct (example) 11 submarines a year, then that is what they will do. They will railroad over a few hundred Chinese peasants if they have to, but they will aim for and work towards that goal. Nothing of that sort exists in India, not that I am advocating for it. But that is a luxury that India does not, will not and IMVHO should not have.
So if a shipyard has the capacity to churn out (example) three submarines a year, that does not necessarily mean that the Navy will have three platforms (with the personnel available) to commission in that same year. Some issues to consider;
1) Platforms are usually paid for during the length of construction. So a certain amount is paid at contract signing, then further amounts are paid during different phases of the construction. Full payment should be completed by the time the vessel is ready for commissioning. This payment schedule is agreed upon and documented during contract negotiations. If the Navy had to pay for all the six Scorpenes signed in 2005 - in a single year - it would have drained out the entire CAPEX for the Navy, for that year. So even if the shipyard could churn out three submarines a year, the question to ask is can the Navy afford to induct three submarines a year, with the CAPEX it has? And that CAPEX varies from year to year.
2) After construction (and pre commissioning) the vessel undergoes several tests (at dock and at sea) to verify specified design parameters. This is done by a mixture of dock personnel and the commissioning crew. Post commissioning, the vessel undergoes further validation exercises by naval personnel. See the Vikrant for example. Commissioned in Sept 2022 and she is still undergoing testing in certain areas. Your crew needs to be on top of their game for this. That requires considerable training and understanding your vessel's capabilities and her quirks. This mastery of training cannot be achieved overnight and runs for a quite of length of time.
It is for this reason that one cannot view infrastructure capacity in a vacuum. It is obviously very important, but it is a symbiotic relationship with the customer involved. This is why when dhoti shivering occurs in BRF (with regards to Chinese shipyards), one has to view it with skepticism. The PLAN is commissioning capital vessels with Captains that have very little experience on the open sea. The lack of proper training with other world blue water navies also greatly adds to this lacuna. The PLAN is still very much in a learning phase.
Also with regards to infrastructure capacity at Chinese shipyards, please note that China is a communist state. There is no public audit of her annual defence budget. Much of it is under wraps. What the ChiComs want, the ChiComs will get. No one questions the Chinese State. So if they want to induct (example) 11 submarines a year, then that is what they will do. They will railroad over a few hundred Chinese peasants if they have to, but they will aim for and work towards that goal. Nothing of that sort exists in India, not that I am advocating for it. But that is a luxury that India does not, will not and IMVHO should not have.
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‘Laying The Ground For A Renewed India UK Defence Relationship’
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India's Defence Ministry Chooses MAYA OS: Here's Everything You Need to Know
In an unprecedented move to bolster cybersecurity, India's Defence Ministry is replacing
Microsoft's Windows with an indigenously developed operating system called Maya OS
across all its computer systems by the end of this year. The transition underlines the
ministry's effort to protect critical infrastructure and promote indigenous innovation.
Here's everything you need to know about MAYA OS.
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About time.NRao wrote: ↑09 Aug 2023 18:33 India's Defence Ministry Chooses MAYA OS: Here's Everything You Need to Know
No point of being IT Superpower, if we cannot build and use our own OS, at least in the Govt sector.
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There are many critical areas India has to create it own in terms of software: Operating system for computers & phones, Database system that can store large datasets including near real time updates, Storage system, applications, etc. On the hardware side there is some movement on RISC based processors. But big holes in other areas like memory, custom ASICs, camera chips and optics, audio components, telecom hardware and more.
Tis a good start on the FinTech side with UPI, ONDC, vault and so on. Many technologies used in FinTech can be re-used for above software components. The traditional data center has moved to providers like AWS, IBM, MickySoft, Oracle and so on. What we need is Infosys, Tata, Wipro, Reliance etc. to get into the game and host Indian made hardware/software for global data centers. China is already into this game.
Tis a good start on the FinTech side with UPI, ONDC, vault and so on. Many technologies used in FinTech can be re-used for above software components. The traditional data center has moved to providers like AWS, IBM, MickySoft, Oracle and so on. What we need is Infosys, Tata, Wipro, Reliance etc. to get into the game and host Indian made hardware/software for global data centers. China is already into this game.
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Not to play spoilsport, but isnt it a new distro rather than a OS? Albeit a custom distro, but not an OS from ground up.
To be fair there is no need to reinvent the wheel either.
To be fair there is no need to reinvent the wheel either.
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Why are three former Indian service chiefs attending a security conference in Taipei?
https://www.indiatoday.in/india-today-i ... 2023-08-08
09 Aug 2023
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https://www.indiatoday.in/india-today-i ... 2023-08-08
09 Aug 2023
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Self-Reliance in Aircraft and Helicopter Engine Technology – The India Story
https://bharatshakti.in/self-reliance-i ... dia-story/
16 August 2023
https://bharatshakti.in/self-reliance-i ... dia-story/
16 August 2023
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DAC approves proposals worth Rs 7,800 crore to enhance operational capabilities of the Armed Forces
https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=1951691
24 August 2023
https://twitter.com/sandeep_mave/status ... 53461?s=20 ---> Defence acquisition council has given AON for projects over 7800 crores
Indian Airforce: EW suite for Mi-17V5 helicopters
Indian Navy: Weapons for MH-60 Romeo helicopters
Indian Army:
* 7.62×51 mm LMG Guns
* Bridge laying tanks
* Ruggedized Laptop and Tabs
* Ground based autonomous system
https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=1951691
24 August 2023
https://twitter.com/sandeep_mave/status ... 53461?s=20 ---> Defence acquisition council has given AON for projects over 7800 crores
* 7.62×51 mm LMG Guns
* Bridge laying tanks
* Ruggedized Laptop and Tabs
* Ground based autonomous system