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Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby Indranil » 22 Mar 2017 01:26

I also think it may be a blessing in disguise.

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Postby SaiK » 22 Mar 2017 03:29

The idea is good, but the process of sourcing it from global vendors is a bad idea here
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 747772.cms

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Postby SaiK » 22 Mar 2017 04:48

Credit Jaitley or Parrikar? But I would keep my fingers crossed on the deep state documents.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 757747.cms

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Postby arun » 01 Apr 2017 15:48

X Posted from the Indian Army News & Discussions thread.



The Indian Army Request For Information (RFI) for Light Weight Anti Material Rifle (LT WT AMR) is linked below.

Disappointing that the Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) designed Vidhwansak AMR (Clicky) was not able to meet the expectations of the Indian Army as a replacement for the Denel NTW-20 AMR acquired in the early 2000’s :( .

Specs for the AMR’s now sought are:

2. The mandatory requirements in respect of which complete compliance must be provided in unambiguous terms are as under:-
(a) Calibre. 12.7 mm /0.50 in Calibre.
(b) Weight. Not more than 15 Kg (excluding sights).
(c) Range. Effective range not less than 1800 metres.
(d) Magazine Capacity. Not less than five (05) rounds.
(e) Accuracy. Better than or equal to 1 MOA.
(f) Sight. The weapon must be provided with a sighting system for all kinds of ammunition as given below for maximum effective range.
(g) Ammunition. The following variety of ammunition must be available for the weapon:-
(i) Armour Piercing Incendiary and Tracer (API I API-T).
(ii) Saboted Light Armour Penetrator I Tracer (SLAP).
(iii) Armour Piercing Explosive Incendiary (APEI).
(iv) High Explosive Armour Piercing Incendiary (HEAP I).


See here:

RFI for Light Weight Anti Material Rifle (LT WT AMR)

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby Gyan » 01 Apr 2017 21:43

With One Moa requirement, it can only be a bolt action AMR. Also what's the point of asking for sniper rifle in 0.338 and then AMR in 0.5 ? when general area fulfilled by both is same. One reason can be to cut out ofb sniper rifle in 7.62x51 and AMR vidhwansak from tenders.

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby Sumair » 01 Apr 2017 22:10

Hope Modiji wake up to this malaise and bring about a bill to mandate ninety percent of defence procurement from domestic sources. No need for TOTs or offsets. All the major manufacturers would be lining up to set up manufacturing units and import seekers would have to fall in line and buy domestic.

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Postby pattnayak » 02 Apr 2017 22:18

Reporting something I saw

I live in Gurgaon. There are some air force establishments near where I live, not airbases, but IAF installments none the less. I pass the main gate many times to go to office and market. There are DSC soldiers on guards with old INSAS rifles, bulky looking BPJs and no helmets. Today, to my pleasant surprise, when I passed the gate, I saw the two soldiers with really modern looking and at least to my eyes less bulky BPJs, the new MKU helmets, but the same old INSAS.

It seems like some upgrade. Didn't know where else to post about it, it's just a first account description of what I saw. Didn't take a photograph for obvious reasons.

Is there any thread where we are following upgrades to kits for our brave soldiers?


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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby Austin » 05 Apr 2017 22:08

Israel's IAI/Elta emerges as lowest bidder in India's 3-D radar tender

http://www.janes.com/article/69327/isra ... dar-tender

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby ramana » 06 Apr 2017 03:55

Arun, They want a 15kg AMR vs 25kg available. And also a variety of ammo.

I am wondering is tis is a way to get Barrett AMR.

For e.g.look at OFB ammo page for 12.7mm

http://ofbindia.gov.in/products/data/am ... /sc/23.htm

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Postby arun » 14 Apr 2017 16:27

X Posted.

Request for Proposal for Supply of Development and Supply of 1500 hp Engine.
RFP Ref No: CVRDE/MMG/OT/18ATT002/17-18
Title: CVRDE- DEVELOPMENT AND SUPPLY OF 1500 hp ENGINE
Work Description: DEVELOPMENT AND SUPPLY OF 1500 hp ENGINE
Published Date: 11 Apr 2017
Bid Submission End Date: 30 May 2017
Bid Opening Date: 01 Jun 2017

From here:

Clicky

Appendix – B
Specification for 1500 hp Engine

Engine Type : 12 Cylinder, 4-stroke, V-90 configuration, Turbocharged, Intercooled, DI, liquid cooled Diesel Engine

Swept Volume : 25 dm3 (minimum)

Rated Power : 1100 kW as per ISO 1585 (w/o fan)
a) Performance at 55 C ambient temperature at sea level : No power reduction allowed
b) Performance at 1000m altitude : No power reduction allowed
c) Performance at 5000m altitude : Engine should be able to operate upto 5000m altitude safely. Minimum power reduction is permissible at this altitude.

Torque backup (min) : 18% at 60%-65% of rated engine speed

Maximum allowed rated speed : 2800 rpm

Power at 50% rated speed (min) : 610 kW

Power at idling speed (min) : 140 kW

SFC at peak torque speed : 210 g/kW.hr (max)

Continuous over speed : 110% of rated speed

Instantaneous over speed : 125% of rated speed

Engine Dimensions : Engine with all its constituents will have the following dimensions:
Length: 1570 mm
Width: 1025 mm
Height: 1115 mm
(Refer Annexure-‘7’ for Engine constituents and Annexure – ‘10’& ‘11’ for compartment dimensional details)

Engine Life (for Qualification) : 400 hrs as per CVRDE Driving Cycle (Details as given in Annexure - '1')

Engine Life (before overhauling) : 1200 hrs as per the operating profile given at Annexure - ‘2’. Engine shall undergo 3 overhauls as given at Annexure `3’

Fuel : Diesel DHPP-A and its variants (properties given at Annexure - `4’)

Permissible inclination of Engine : 35° in any direction. Engine should be able to stop for any duration and start under these
inclinations

Dry Weight i. Max. Permitted : 2200 kg ii. Desired weight limit : 2100 kg (Refer Annexure – ‘7’ for engine constituents)

Startability : Engine should be able to start at -300 C with starting aid.

Starting method : Electrical and air starting

Generator Output : 40 kW (28V)

Smoke : < 0.6 FSN under standard full load conditions < 1.5 FSN under all conditions (excluding transients) < 4.0 FSN during transients

Fuel Injection system : Features as per Annexure - ‘5’
Primary – CRDI
Fallback – Mechanical
Alternate – CRDI

Unique design requirements : As per Annexure - ‘6’

Engine constituents : As per Annexure - ‘7’

Heat Rejection Limit : At 25 deg C ambient temperature and 0.99 bar atmospheric pressure, when the engine is running at rated speed and producing 1100 kW power, the combined total heat rejection to the coolant and oil should not exceed 570 kW.(Coolant temperature shall be between 85°C & 95°C. Oil temperature shall be between 90°C & 100°C)

Note: The details of Annexure 1 to 11 will be provided to the bidders upon request and on submission of NDA as mentioned in Para 2.a of Part V of RFP.

Appendix - `C’
SCOPE OF WORK FOR CONCEPT REVIEW AND REFINEMENT
Milestone-1.a: Concept Review and Refinement
1. The engine specification (Appendix ‘B’) and concept (Appendix ‘Q’) have been defined by CVRDE with the following salient features:
• Bore: 138 mm, Stroke: 145 mm, 12 cylinder V-90 engine
• Rated speed: 2600 rpm
• Unit pump based common rail FIS
• Over head valve design
• Individual cylinder heads ………………………..

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby Kakkaji » 21 Apr 2017 23:10

India, South Korea sign pact for defence shipbuilding

NEW DELHI: India and South Korea signed an agreement today to firm up bilateral cooperation in defence shipbuilding.

Under the MoU, conceived under the umbrella of the special strategic partnership, the two sides will nominate one shipyard each for this purpose.

India has already picked Hindustan Shipyard Limited (HSL) while Korea will make the nomination soon, Secretary (Defence Production) Ashok Kumar Gupta said.

"It will enable HSL to upgrade and modernise its facilities so as to enable it to execute naval projects in a timely manner," Gupta said, adding the whole initiative was part of the Centre's 'Make in India' initiative.

Gupta also said that the agreement will be useful for the development of vendors for supply of material.

"That will generate huge employment and will also increase the turnover of HSL," he said.


Gurus, what is this deal about? Is this general purpose modernization of HSL, or for specific projects?

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Postby Austin » 22 Apr 2017 22:03

South Korea storms into India's defence manufacturing with contracts worth $2.3 billion
http://ajaishukla.blogspot.in/2017/04/s ... deals.html

On Friday, in New Delhi, the governments of India and the Republic of Korea (or RoK, as South Korea is called) signed a memorandum of understanding (MoU) for joint shipbuilding, which clears the decks for cooperatively building five fleet support ships (FSS) for about Rs 10,000 crore.

These FSS will replenish ammunition, fuel, food and supplies to navy flotillas operating far from their bases. The RoK wants to build one FSS in Korea, and four in Hindustan Shipyard Ltd, Visakhapatnam (HSL), while New Delhi is pressing to build all five in HSL.

Separately, Indian company, Larsen & Toubro (L&T) earlier on Friday signed a contract with RoK firm, Hanwha Techwin, for jointly building in India 100 self-propelled artillery guns, worth Rs 5,000 crore.

Meanwhile, for an even bigger production order worth about Rs 30,000 crore, Goa Shipyard Ltd (GSL) is in advanced negotiations with South Korea’s Kangnam Corporation for building 12 mine counter measure vessels (MCMVs) in Goa. In Delhi on Tuesday, the navy’s warship acquisition chief, Vice Admiral DM Deshpande, said that deal too could be concluded this year.

“By the fourth quarter of this year, we should be in a position to have pen to paper so far as this [MCMV] project is concerned”, said Deshpande.

That would involve South Korea in defence production contracts worth 45,000 crore. However, a significant part of that money would flow to Indian production agencies.

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Postby tandav » 23 Apr 2017 01:20

Its interesting to note that India was the world largest producer (>90% capacity) of superior Potassium Nitrate (Saltpetre) the prime ingredient of Gunpowder from ~1300 AD through 1900s and its ability to produce explosives and armaments that armed a very large section of the population using private enterprise. This ability to create firearms prevented the Mongols from entering India while the Mongols were able to easily conquer China after learning Indian Saltpetre technology. interestingly I think Cow/Cattle/Human Urine was the major raw materials for the the fecund production of Saltpetre that dwarfed the productions from all other nations.

Given that the China claims gunpowder as its civilizational heritage potentially usurping it from India. In this the Chinese are ably assisted by noted Sinophiles like Needham. It's time to reassert and reclaim India's civilization heritage from the history concocting geniuses with a southern coast in the Ancient Champa sea with a penchant for renaming stuff.

Very interesting account of History of Saltpetre and its Indian origins in this blog here.
starting in Feb 2016 through June 2016
http://firearmshistory.blogspot.in/2016/02/the-history-of-saltpeter-i.html
http://firearmshistory.blogspot.in/2016/06/the-history-of-saltpeter-xix.html

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Postby Shankk » 23 Apr 2017 01:48

pattnayak wrote:Reporting something I saw

I live in Gurgaon. There are some air force establishments near where I live, not airbases, but IAF installments none the less. I pass the main gate many times to go to office and market. There are DSC soldiers on guards with old INSAS rifles, bulky looking BPJs and no helmets. Today, to my pleasant surprise, when I passed the gate, I saw the two soldiers with really modern looking and at least to my eyes less bulky BPJs, the new MKU helmets, but the same old INSAS.

It seems like some upgrade. Didn't know where else to post about it, it's just a first account description of what I saw. Didn't take a photograph for obvious reasons.

Is there any thread where we are following upgrades to kits for our brave soldiers?


Thanks for taking time to post this firsthand experience. Things are changing, maybe slow but they sure are.

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby Philip » 26 Apr 2017 10:28

7 items on the anvil.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-new ... ed-for-you
India world’s 5th largest military spender: 7 weapon systems govt is buying
India was the world’s fifth largest military spender in 2016, a report released on Monday said.

INDIA Updated: Apr 25, 2017 13:38 IST
Rahul Singh
Hindustan Times, New Delhi
India
New Delhi wants to scale up its military capabilities to keep pace with China’s defence modernisation.
India in April signed billion-dollar deals for the execution of two contracts to buy advanced medium-range surface-to-air missile (MRSAM) systems from Israel and 155mm/52-calibre tracked self-propelled artillery guns from South Korea.

The deals were finalised days before a report released on Monday put India in fifth place on the list of the world’s largest military spenders in 2016. The Stockholm International Peace Research Institute said in its annual report that the country’s defence expenditure grew by 8.5% last year to $55.9 billion.

As New Delhi loosens purse strings to scale up military capabilities to keep pace with China’s defence modernisation, here’s a look at the seven big weapons and systems that India has contracted or will soon place orders for:

MRSAM systems: India on April 6 inked deals worth $2 billion to buy advanced surface-to-air missile systems from Israel. Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) will provide the Indian Army with advanced MRSAM systems to take down hostile aircraft and missiles. It is the single largest contract in Israel’s defence industry history. The MRSAM will allow the army to shoot down a wide range of aerial targets at ranges of up to 70 km. The MRSAM is the army version of the long-range surface-to-air missile (LR-SAM) systems deployed on Indian warships. LRSAM has been co-developed by India and Israel under a Rs 2,606-crore programme.

Read more
Israel offers strike-capable drones to India

Mega defence deals expected during PM Narendra Modi’s ‘big’ visit to Israel
155mm/52-calibre tracked self-propelled guns: Private sector defence major Larsen & Toubro and South Korean firm Hanwha Techwin (HTW) on April 21 signed a $720-million contract for executing the artillery gun programme for the Indian Army. The army will be supplied 100 K9 VAJRA-T guns. L&T plans to begin production of the guns at Talegaon near Pune in Maharashtra and is expected to deliver them within three years. An improved version of HTW’s K9 Thunder, the K9 VAJRA-T gun has been tailored to meet the requirements of the India, including its desert formations.

M777 ultra-light howitzers: India sealed a $750-million deal with the United States for 145 ultra-light howitzers (M777), manufactured by BAE Systems, in November. The howitzers are being bought to increase the army’s high-altitude capabilities. It was the first deal to modernise the country’s artillery after the Bofors scam unfolded in the late 1980s. The army will get its first two 155 mm/39-calibre M777s in May. While 25 howitzers will be imported, the remaining 120 will be assembled in India by BAE Systems and Mahindra Defence. The M777s will be deployed in the northern and eastern sectors.

BIG-TICKET DEALS
India’s marquee acquisitions in recent times

June 2011: India bought ten C-17 heavy-lift military aircraft worth $4.1 billion from the US
September 2015: India signed a nearly $3-billion deal for 22 Apache attack helicopters and 15 Chinook heavy-lift helicopters with American aviation giant Boeing and the US government
September 2016: India and France signed a deal for 36 Rafale combat jets for close to 7.8 billion euros ($8.7 billion)
October 2016: India and Russia signed a deal for five S-400 Triumf air defence systems for more than Rs 39,000 crore
April 2017: India and South Korea signed MoU for 5 fleet support ships worth about Rs 10,000 crore. Larsen & Toubro signed a deal with a South Korean firm for building 100 self-propelled artillery guns worth Rs 5,000 crore
Rafale fighter jets: India signed a $8.7-billion deal with France for 36 Rafale warplanes in September to arrest the fall in the air force’s combat strength.

The Dassault Aviation-build fighter jets - equipped with latest weapons - will be delivered to the Indian Air Force between September 2019 and April 2022. The deal is crucial for the IAF which is grappling with a depleted fighter fleet. India has 33 fighter squadrons with 18 planes each but requires 45 squadrons to deal with a combined threat from China and Pakistan. The fighters will be equipped with Meteor beyond visual range missiles built by European defence major MBDA Missile Systems. The Meteor has a range of 150 km.

Anti-tank guided missiles (ATGM): India is on track to buy Israeli Spike ATGM systems, manufactured by Rafael Advanced Defence Systems Ltd. The $500-million deal could be signed in the coming months. India is negotiating the purchase of 321 launchers and 8,356 fire-and-forget missiles with the Israeli firm. The missile can destroy armoured vehicles and bunkers at a distance of 2.5 km and the army plans to equip more than 400 of its units with the third-generation ATGM systems. India chose the Israeli ATGM over US defence and aerospace firm Raytheon’s Javelin system more than three years ago.

Minesweepers: India is in the final stages of closing a $5.1-billion deal with South Korea for building 12 mine counter-measure vessels (MCMVs) in the country. The MCMVs will be built at Goa Shipyard Limited (GSL) in collaboration with Busan-based Kangnam Corporation under the Make in India initiative. The construction of the first vessel is expected to begin in April 2018, with deliveries completed between April 2021 and April 2026. The navy will be without a minesweeper till 2021, with the existing fleet of six Soviet-origin vessels to be decommissioned by next year. Navies use vessels to secure harbours by locating and destroying mines.

Attack and heavy-lift helicopters: In 2015, India ordered $3.1 billion worth of 22 Boeing AH-64E Apache Longbow attack helicopters and 15 Chinook heavy-lift choppers. The deliveries are likely to begin in 2019. Boeing beat off competition from Russia, which had offered its Mi-28N Night Hunter helicopter gunship and the Mi-26 heavy-lift choppers to the IAF. The Chinooks will plug a crucial gap in the IAF’s heavy-lift capabilities as it currently relies on a solitary Mi-26 chopper to carry payloads to high altitudes. The IAF also urgently requires new attack helicopters.

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Postby Kakkaji » 12 May 2017 00:03

Government moves ahead to finalise SP model for defence production

The Defence Acquisition Council (DAC), the ministry's highest decision making body for capital acquisition, is expected to deliberate on the SP model on Monday.

If the policy is cleared by the DAC, then it will be sent for consideration of the Cabinet Committee on Security.

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Postby Kakkaji » 15 May 2017 23:42

Defence Acquisition Council discusses indigenous manufacture of fighter jets, choppers

Defence Ministry sources said the Defence Acquisition Council (DAC), chaired by Defence Minister Arun Jaitley, made "forward movement" towards finalising the 'strategic partnership (SP) model', covering "substantial ground".

At last week's meeting, some industry representatives had favoured a level playing field and expanding the industry base by allowing entry of new players. Some stressed on exercising caution and ensuring that the model does not block the flow of new technology to the sector.

It was learnt that some officials also raised concern about possible "judicial intervention and federal audit" in case of award of successive orders to one 'strategic partner


This policy is far too delayed, and turning out to be way too complicated. :((

Can't they just let the private companies form their own joint ventures with foreign OEMs, and then bid for the MoD contracts? May the best offer win.

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Postby Kakkaji » 16 May 2017 02:54

More details in the Hindu. Posting in full:

Arms production tie-up policy gets shape

NEW DELHI, MAY 15:
The Defence Ministry has finally come up with a draft policy that allows it to shortlist so-called Strategic Partners (SPs) and foreign OEMs through separate processes.

The ‘Strategic Partnership’ policy was finalised at the all-important meeting of the Defence Acquisition Council (DAC), chaired by Defence Minister Arun Jaitley on Monday. This was the only agenda of the DAC meet, sources told BusinessLine.

The government has decided that the Original Equipment Manufacturers (OEMs) will be shortlisted based on how they agree to technology transfer and on the quantum of their contribution towards building a defence eco-system in the country under the ‘Make in India’ programme.

The final selection will be done based on a combination of price bids and segment-specific capabilities of the firms. In the first phase, only four broad segments will be identified – single-engine fighter aircraft, helicopters, submarines and armoured vehicles or main battle tanks, a source in the know said.

Depending on the success of the first phase, the Defence Ministry may add more segments or sub-divide these as SP model matures, the source added.

Much to the chagrin of the industry, the Ministry has decided that only one SP will be selected per segment to “maintain focus on core areas and ensure wider participation from industry”.

In the case of selection of OEMs, technology transfer will be the “main criteria”, and that will include extent of indigenous content proposed, training of skilled manpower and future R&D plans in India. The OEMs will be asked to make technical offers in response to the express of interest (EOI) within two months. A maximum of two OEMs will be shortlisted for each segment.

Jaitley had on May 11 met the industry on the issue for the first time after taking over as Defence Minister. During the meeting, the industry appeared to be widely divided on the issues of grand-parenting of projects and price discovery of defence armaments.

Only 49% FDI?
The Ministry believes that the SP model will only allow 49 per cent foreign direct investment (FDI) and that there will be no “pyramiding of FDI” in the Indian holding companies by foreign partners, so that the key decision-making rests in the hands of the Indian firm.

Deals that are stuck include the acquisition of naval utility helicopters (NUH) for ₹20,000 crore, P-75 Scorpene submarine programme for ₹60,000 crore, and the fighter jet deal for single or twin-engine worth about ₹1,00,000 crore.


I don't know about you guys, but I am getting a feeling this is MMRCAx4. Elaborate, long-drawn process, with zero purchases at the end. I hope Jaitley has buttoned down the legal part airtight, or the losers will immediately challenge the SP awards in court.

What do the Gurus think?

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Postby Kakkaji » 21 May 2017 04:32

Not many details, but it seems the SP policy has been finalised. Now it goes to the Finance Ministry, which should endorse it since Jaitley happens to be the Finance Minister also, and then to the Cabinet for approval.

After all this delay, at this point I don't care anymore what is in the policy, as long as it leads to quick decisions and some quick orders.

Defence ministry gives nod to private investment policy in military platforms

Initially, the policy is expected to be implemented for manufacturing fighter aircraft, submarines and armoured vehicles. It is expected to be expanded to other segments at a later stage.

The policy is likely to be examined by the finance ministry before being considered by the Cabinet Committee on Security.

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Postby arun » 21 May 2017 15:36

X Posted from the Indian Missiles News and Discussions-May 2017 thread.

IAI press release announces further LRSAM Contract. This one covering 4 naval vessels and valued at USD 630 Million.

Any idea what class of vessels this order is for?

IAI Signs Another Significant Deal in India: Will Supply $630 Million Worth of LRSAM Air & Missile Defense Systems to Indian Government Company BEL

May 21, 2017

Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) announced today it has been awarded an additional, $630 million- contract for supply of LRSAM air & missile defense systems for four ships of the Indian navy. The contract will be carried out, for the first time, with Indian government company BHARAT ELECTRONICS LIMITED )BEL), which serves as the main contractor in the project as part of India's "Make in India" policy. Prior to signing the contract, the System was successfully tested last week in India as part of operational interception trial aboard India's navy ship, demonstrating again the System's operational capabilities in a representative scenario with genuine target.

The trial scenario started with the launch and engagement of the target. The MFSTAR radar aboard the Indian naval ship has identified the air-borne threat and has tracked it over its flying course. The data was sent to the command center of the weapon system which launched the intercepting missile into orbit. Having been successfully launched, the missile has navigated itself to the target. During its flight, it engaged the target, aligned its course, hit it and destroyed it. All components of the weapon system have successfully met the goals set to them.

Joseph Weiss, IAI president and CEO, said, "The new contract adds to other deals signed in the last decade by IAI with India's defense forces, reinforcing IAI's global leadership position in air and missile defense systems. The inclusion of Indian governmental company BEL for the first time, is a step up in our relationship with the Indian industry as part of the 'Make in India' policy. This unique project represents the close collaboration between India's DRDO, IAI and the defence forces of both countries. We will proceed to implementing it with joint efforts."

Boaz Levi, Executive Vice President and General Manager of Systems, Missiles & Space Group said: "We take pride, along with our partners in India, in the great results of the trail conducted last week, which reestablishes the System's reliability and quality as well as its advanced technological capabilities. IAI is in an accelerated process to supply the various air and missile defense systems to the client. We will continue to support our partners in India in advancing the industry and security of both countries."

LRSAM is an advanced air and missile defense system, a unique joint development by IAI and India's Defense Research and Development Organization (DRDO) in collaboration with IAI subsidiary ELTA, RAFAEL, various Indian companies including BEL, L&T, BDL and other private Indian companies. The system comprises several key state-of-the-art elements, advanced phased-array radar (MFSTAR), command and control system, launchers and missiles with advanced RF seekers. The system provides the ultimate protection against a variety of aerial, naval and air born threats and is operational with the Indian Air Force, Indian Navy and Israel Defense Forces and in the near future with Indian Army.


IAI Press Release:

IAI Signs Another Significant Deal in India: Will Supply $630 Million Worth of LRSAM Air & Missile Defense Systems to Indian Government Company BEL

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby arvin » 21 May 2017 15:51

Kakkaji wrote:More details in the Hindu. Posting in full:

I don't know about you guys, but I am getting a feeling this is MMRCAx4. Elaborate, long-drawn process, with zero purchases at the end. I hope Jaitley has buttoned down the legal part airtight, or the losers will immediately challenge the SP awards in court.

What do the Gurus think?


My feeling is same as yours. I am not a guru but this is another time pass in making. Just like MMRCA file were found on the streets of Delhi, I hope deals under SP dont end up the same way. There was no SP for artillery guns yet its raining artillery guns with IA spoilt for choice.

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Postby chaitanya » 21 May 2017 21:09

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Government gives green signal to build worth over Rs 20,000 crore

In a major move to ramp up naval strength, the Defence Ministry has given an in-principle approval for construction of four amphibious assault ships, also called the Landing Platform Docks (LPD), in the private sector at a cost of over Rs 20,000 crore.
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The long-pending project was given green signal by the Defence Acquisition Council, the top decision-making body of the Ministry, at its meeting yesterday, informed sources told PTI.
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The meeting was chaired by Defence Minister Arun Jaitley. Earlier, the Ministry had indicated that two LPDs will be built by state-run Hindustan Shipyard Limited, Visakhapatnam, while select private firms will be awarded contract to construct two others.
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The sources said RDEL and Larsen and Toubro will be asked next week to submit fresh commercial bids for the four LPDs.
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Each of the ships are likely to be in the range of 30,000 and 40,000 tonnes. ???

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Postby A Sharma » 22 May 2017 18:11

Ready to Boom

The Tata Motors objective is to upgrade from supplier of defence logistics to manufacturer of full-range combat vehicles. Besides the FICV, the company is training its sights on the ‘future-ready combat vehicle’, slated to replace the ancient T-72 tank, and the ‘future main battle tank’, which will supplant the nearly obsolescent T-90. Meanwhile, the company continues to make gains with its multi-axle trucks and pickups, and it has built a reconnaissance vehicle for the Indian Army.

“We have a mine-protected vehicle that we currently have to take to South Africa for testing. We can’t test it in India because here we need a licence, ammunition, explosives and 20-30 certificates for that. It’s cheaper to put the proto on a ship, sail it to South Africa and do the blast test, etc, there .”

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Postby srai » 22 May 2017 22:31

^^^
Choice words from TaTa Motors :mrgreen:

"Ancient T-72"
"Nearly obsolescent T-90"

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Postby Austin » 23 May 2017 20:37

India's BEL and Israel's IAI ink $630M missile system deal

http://www.defensenews.com/articles/ind ... ystem-deal

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Postby Kakkaji » 24 May 2017 01:25

More details on the SP decision, with specifics on projects, companies, and timelines:

Govt kick-starts ₹2-lakh cr worth defence projects

NEW DELHI, MAY 21:
After a long wait, the government has finally pressed the accelerator to kick-start defence programmes worth nearly ₹200,000 crore even as the Prime Minister’s Office (PMO) gave in-principle approval to the ‘Strategic Partnership’ (SP) policy.

The SP policy had been pending for over two years. On Saturday, Defence Minister Arun Jaitley cleared the draft policy during a meeting of the Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) chaired by him. The proposal has already been given in-principle approval by the PMO. It will now be rolled out in less than a month once the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) approves it, sources told BusinessLine.

The government is very keen that the process of selection of SPs is completed by March 2018 and the projects be rolled out quickly. With the general elections due in 2019 and the government’s focus on ‘Make in India’ and job creation, defence is seen as a big opportunity,” an official involved in the deliberations said, while requesting anonymity.

Big ticket projects

The SP policy is expected to boost manufacturing of high-end defence equipment by private sector companies, which will be enlisted in separate categories to manufacture a particular defence platform in partnership with foreign original equipment manufacturers (OEMs).

In the initial phase, the policy will be implemented in select segments – fighter aircraft (including helicopters), submarine and armoured vehicle.

Some big ticket projects expected to go full steam by next year are the ₹60,000-crore P-75 (I) submarine programme under which six Scorpene-class submarines are being built. The foreign OEMs involved in this programme are France’s DCNS and German defence major ThyssenKrupp. The SPs that will be enlisted for this particular project are Reliance Defence and L&T. Another project that has been on hold for over a decade and is expected to see the light of the day is the ₹60,000-crore single-engine fighter jet deal.

The companies in the fray for this project are Swedish SAAB with its Gripen E and the F-16 by US’ Lockheed Martin. The potential Indian companies in the fray will be Tata, Adani and Reliance.

In the armoured vehicles category, the government is likely to give thrust to the Future Infantry Combat Vehicle (FICV) project worth more than ₹50,000 crore.

Under this, more than 2,600 vehicles will be manufactured.

Some of the Indian companies eyeing this deal are L&T, Mahindra, Tata, Bharat Forge and Ashok Leyland with potential collaboration with the US-based General Dynamics and German giant Rheinmetall.

Finally, the project to manufacture 110 naval utility helicopters (NUH) at a cost of ₹12,000 crore is also expected to gain momentum. Tata and Mahindra will be the main contenders for the SP position in the segment.


The SP model is expected to usher in a new era of defence acquisitions. The concept was first mooted by the Dhirendra Singh committee, which was constituted to ease the process of defence acquisition by former Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar. It submitted the report in July 2015.

Thereafter, another committee headed by former DRDO Chief VK Aatre was set up to draw the guidelines for selecting the Indian private players.

This report was submitted in January 2016. But, the policy faced delay due to stiff opposition from defence public sector units, which feared loss of business and expertise. :x

Once officially released, the SP policy will be inducted as Chapter VII in the Defence Procurement Procedure of 2016 as ‘Strategic Partners and Partnerships’.

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Postby Kakkaji » 24 May 2017 22:27

The SP Policy has been approved by the Cabinet. So it is now official:

Cabinet clears policy for strategic partnerships in defence: Arun Jaitley

Jaitley did a good job of pushing the SP Policy through the last mile, though the groundwork was done by Parrikar.

Now to wait and see how fast and how well it is actually implemented.

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Postby Indranil » 24 May 2017 22:35

Mahindra eyes deal with Russian airliner

The Indian conglomerate was considered for partnership for the Irkut-MC-21 civil aviation aircraft on the basis of Mahindra Aerospace’s association with the manufacture of the Sukhoi Superjet 100, it is learnt.

The company manufactured some components and helped build the interiors of the Sukhoi Superjet. Russian airline Aeroflot is the Sukhoi Superjet’s single biggest buyer. Mahindra Aerostructures, a subsidiary of Mahindra Aerospace, has been keen to cement ties with aviation giants.

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Postby Will » 24 May 2017 23:02

Kakkaji wrote:The SP Policy has been approved by the Cabinet. So it is now official:

Cabinet clears policy for strategic partnerships in defence: Arun Jaitley

Jaitley did a good job of pushing the SP Policy through the last mile, though the groundwork was done by Parrikar.

Now to wait and see how fast and how well it is actually implemented.


Sunmarines should be first on the list. Second probably the single engine fighter. But that decision I think will rest largely on what response Modi gets from the Trump administration regarding the F-16 line on his visit in June.

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Postby SajeevJino » 25 May 2017 12:01

₹60,000-crore P-75 (I) submarine programme under which six Scorpene-class submarines are being built. The foreign OEMs involved in this programme are France’s DCNS and German defence major ThyssenKrupp. The SPs that will be enlisted for this particular project are Reliance Defence and L&T.


so either DCNS SMX Ocean or the modern Type 214, will be built in India

so MDL has to loose his submarine building experience gathered from Scorpene ..will they build three more or stops at six

Another project that has been on hold for over a decade and is expected to see the light of the day is the ₹60,000-crore single-engine fighter jet deal.

The companies in the fray for this project are Swedish SAAB with its Gripen E and the F-16 by US’ Lockheed Martin. The potential Indian companies in the fray will be Tata, Adani and Reliance.


some nine billion dollar deal, how many fighters we can get with this cost, some 70-80, what about costs for weapons, if we goes to uncle means we have to spend half the same amount for their weapons

In the armoured vehicles category, the government is likely to give thrust to the Future Infantry Combat Vehicle (FICV) project worth more than ₹50,000 crore.

Under this, more than 2,600 vehicles will be manufactured.

Some of the Indian companies eyeing this deal are L&T, Mahindra, Tata, Bharat Forge and Ashok Leyland with potential collaboration with the US-based General Dynamics and German giant Rheinmetall.


Hopefully the TATA GD collaboration brings a damn good FICV for IA, their proposed design was awesome, which is looks like British Ajax

Finally, the project to manufacture 110 naval utility helicopters (NUH) at a cost of ₹12,000 crore is also expected to gain momentum. Tata and Mahindra will be the main contenders for the SP position in the segment.


Mahindra was joined with Airbus to mull the EC 725 helicopters , any info about the Tata's partner and proposed helicopter model


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So LHD project still hanging, will not get CCS nod till fall of 2018

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Postby Karan M » 25 May 2017 23:17

Why Arun Jaitley As Defence Minister Ought To Be An Interim Arrangement
Posted on April 13, 2017 by Bharat Karnad
Published as ‘BloombergQuint Opinion’ on bloombergquint.com April 12, 2017, at
https://www.bloombergquint.com/opinion/ ... rrangement
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As far as Manohar Parrikar is concerned, it was a perfect storm. The Goa political scene was on the boil. The odd-makers who had favoured the Congress party to get more seats than the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) in the state elections and to form a government by itself or in coalition with smaller pesky provincial outfits were all but proved right. The dissent in BJP seemed by and large immune to Parrikar’s remote management by telephone and weekly trips. Add to this mix Prime Minister Narendra Modi and party boss Amit Shah’s determination to not let this coastal state slip out of BJP’s grasp and, in parallel, Parrikar’s growing discomfiture with the Prime Minister’s Office (PMO) looking over his shoulder and subtly and not so subtly influencing his Ministry of Defence decisions, and you had a defence minister primed to leave at a moment’s notice. Once the election results were announced, and Shah suggested that Parrikar pack up and save the day for the BJP in Goa, he did just that, deftly maneuvering the power right out of the clueless and complacent Congress party’s state in-charge, Digvijaya Singh’s hands.



The trouble though is that instead of selecting a defence specialist – such as, say, VK Saraswat, the former head of the Defence Research & Development Organisation (DRDO) and Science Adviser to Defence Minister now being wasted in the NITI Ayog – the Prime Minister plonked, even if as an interim measure, for Arun Jaitley. Happy in the Finance Ministry, Jaitley is once again saddled with overseeing the military for which he had shown little interest in his earlier concurrent stint as defence minister.


Jaitley has been a member of the policy establishment for many decades and, as such, tilts towards the status quo, accepting the conventional wisdom on almost every issue of public import. Thus, whatever Modi’s agenda, Jaitley’s ‘don’t rock the boat’ attitude has translated into policy incrementalism and economic reforms carried out at a deliberate pace. Where defence is concerned, this tendency would only be heightened, strengthening, in turn, the military’s institutional conservatism. Between the armed services’ inertia and Jaitley’s ‘do as little differently as possible’ outlook, the Indian military’s organization and its mindset, will remain industrial age even as the Chinese and other more advanced counterpart forces will transition to fifth generation ‘hybrid’ warfare featurng space-based weapons and robotic systems.

Jaitley and Parrrikar’s record at South Block

As Finance Minister, Jaitley stopped the raising of the first offensive mountain corps in its tracks, saying the country could not afford the costs involved of Rs 64,000 crore. As concurrently Defence Minister, he stuck by that decision, resulting in the Panagarh-based 17 Corps being only half-raised with only the 59 Mountain Division under command; and the second such unit, the 72 Mountain Division still to see the light of day. But here Jaitley took his cue from the Prime Minister.

At the December 2015 Combined Commanders’ Conference, Modi had declared, somewhat cryptically, that “[Military] modernisation and expansion of forces, both at the same time, is a difficult and unnecessary goal”. In practical terms this meant, for instance, that the government would somehow come up with the Rs 84,000 crore ($12 billion) as payment to “modernise” the Indian Air Force with the April 2015 impulse-buy by Modi in Paris of 36 Rafale combat aircraft, but defund 17 Corps, that would enable the Indian Army for the first time to take the fight to the Chinese People’s Liberation Army on the Tibetan Plateau.

In contrast, the Rafale decision was resisted by Parrikar. An IIT Bombay graduate he approached the problem as an engineer would, to conclude correctly that it made no sense to purchase the Rafale and that too in such small numbers. The ready solution is for the indigenous Tejas light combat aircraft and the Sukhoi Su-30MKI to afford the country a formidable one-two punch at a fraction of the cost. The Tejas and its variants can be developed and inducted on a war-footing as the bulk air defence aircraft. The Su-30MKI, regarded as the best multi-role warplane in the world, and assembled by Hindustan Aeronautics in Nasik, can perform the strike and air superiority missions. Also in the inventory are upgraded MiG-29s and Mirage 2000s secondarily to rely on.

Because Jaitley may not have specialist outside counselors to guide him, he is likely to, when not doing what PMO asks him to do, simply follow the advice given by generalist civil servants in Ministry of Defence and/or the uniformed brass. Jaitley may not study the complex issues and do what Parrikar did in mid-2016 when, despite great pressure from the Navy, he ruled out a heavy 65,000-tonne aircraft carrier.

Later in the year, Parrikar proved that arms self-sufficiency was more than a political slogan for him. In a meeting in South Block in September last year, Parrikar first heard out the case for sustaining the naval LCA programme and then the arguments by Rear Admiral Surendra Ahuja – who is Assistant Controller of Carrier Project and Assistant Controller of Warship Production & Acquisition – for terminating this home-grown fighter plane. Parrikar, while approving a Request for Information (RFI) for carrier aircraft, which the navy was desperately seeking, ordered that there would be no let-up in the LCA programme, and the realisation of the Tejas Mk-1A, Mk-2, the naval LCA and the follow-on Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft would proceed full steam. The beauty of this decision is that by the time the RFI process is completed in 2022 or so, the naval Tejas will be ready for carrier deployment, and the RFI becomes defunct.


Jaitley is unlikely to be as sagacious a defence minister as Parrikar. What then explains the Prime Minister’s installing him in the Ministry of Defence? It could be that he wants Jaitley helming both the defence and finance ministries just so tens of billions of dollars can be rifled up for military hardware acquisition deals, including for the antique F-16 fighter aircraft – good only for museum display – to please the President of the United States Donald J Trump. Modi is set to visit Washington D.C. in May.

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby ramana » 26 May 2017 00:42

I would read the concluding paragraph with a bag of salt.

IAF needs ~60 squadrons for a real two front war.
Where will HAL produce the aircraft without additional line?
And additional line with HAL in charge will give same results of over promise and under deliver.
Meantime the balloon goes up.

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Postby Karan M » 26 May 2017 01:10

Ramana sir,

karnad IMHO has blinkers on viz Modi and tends to be a bit pompous and whimsical, ignoring TSP danger, dismissing it - he is surprised now about TSP barbarity on the line of control was he sleeping all this while? Only focused on PRC. Having said that he has his heart in the right place and hyperbole apart, he is right that Su-30 MKI plus Tejas can do a lot, instead of some new bag of tricks as a MMRCA.

I only posted that article because he occasionally gets good insider bits of info & it was positive to see how Parrikar pushed for the LCA project (and galling since he is now no longer there). Hopefully he is replaced by somebody equally aware and supportive of local industry.

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Postby Kakarat » 26 May 2017 01:51

This is the second time I am seeing the name of VK Saraswat being proposed for Defense Minister but nothing form the government. I have also not seen any visible link between him and the ruling party or am I missing something?

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

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Postby ramana » 26 May 2017 03:01

VKS has been appointed JNU vice- chancellor last I heard

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby srai » 28 May 2017 01:42

ramana wrote:I would read the concluding paragraph with a bag of salt.

IAF needs ~60 squadrons for a real two front war.
Where will HAL produce the aircraft without additional line?
And additional line with HAL in charge will give same results of over promise and under deliver.
Meantime the balloon goes up.

Where will the money for 60 squadrons of 4th/5th Gen fighters come from? Then the IA also seeks massive amounts for the Mountain Strike Corps and other modernization across the board when 80% of their budget goes for paying payroll and maintenance. Add to that the IN wants a 65K t EMALS carrier, more DDG/FFG, planes, helos and submarines. All of this when the defense budget has not increased in relative terms.

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby ramana » 31 May 2017 00:15

Need vs want. :)

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Postby ragupta » 31 May 2017 07:18

I would say dream v/s reality


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