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Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby Manish_Sharma » 25 Oct 2016 12:48

nachiket wrote:But, is there ANY (diesel) sub which can (theoretically) launch the Brahmos, if we can modify it? Can we do it without significantly impacting performance? This sub-launched Brahmos insistence will only ensure that we stay critically short of subs for even longer.


I think Soryu is around 4000 tons, and can do it.

Maybe Soryu can do it, but peacenik japanese will have a cardiac arrest at the mention of putting such a fearsome weapon on their peaceful platform.

French have claimed and won australian competition. But now are afraid that they can't deliver. Hence they tried to make peace with German Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft saying we white europeans should protect and work together and prevent Asians from getting it.

But Germans are hurting pretty bad with this defeat, so they may give a lot to us just to spite the kangaroos and frogs.

Best is that in same way as nuclear-barracuda is transformed into smx-ocean.

We propose to germans that we make Arihant into 4000 ton single hull SSK and get as much Tot as possible while developing together.

That can carry longer range Nirbhay instead of Brahmos.

And germans can make it run on Li-on batteries + diesel instead of diesel+aip just like japanese will do for their next soryu subs.

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Postby rkhanna » 25 Oct 2016 14:07

Currently the Lightest Combat Helmet offering IIIA & Frag Protection tops out at about 2.2Pounds.

https://sofrep.com/66323/the-lightest-ballistic-helmet-on-the-market/

Does anybody know the stats on the MKU helmet order we have supposedly placed?

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Postby Singha » 25 Oct 2016 14:40

japani defence industry is decades behind the west in marketing and devious tactics. they are our best bet if a G2G deal can worked out to adapt the Soryu design to our specific needs like warm water operations, nirbhay, brahmos, desi sonars , dosa and roti maker ... this can actually help japan reduce the unit cost of these vessels if they think in their own interest and stop being manipulated by others. maybe the 1st 2nd 3rd can be minimal changes with progressively more as time goes on upto 15 ships.

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Postby Manish_Sharma » 25 Oct 2016 15:06

Maybe after lemoa signing now usa can give them a nudge towards selling us the Soryu subs, and like with Shishumar germans gave us battery tech, japanese can give us Li-On tech under make in Bharat.

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Postby John » 25 Oct 2016 17:24

Drawback with Brahmos for submarine is that it requires VLS cells which limits the submarines that can carry it. As mentioned by others Soryu can perhaps be modified for that. That said I think regular Brahmos for submarines is all but dead idea.

The company is more interested in promoting Brahmos M which can fit in regular 21 inch tubes. Hopefully focus shifts towards that for development with Air launched Brahmos in testing.

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Postby nachiket » 25 Oct 2016 23:32

John wrote:The company is more interested in promoting Brahmos M which can fit in regular 21 inch tubes. Hopefully focus shifts towards that for development with Air launched Brahmos in testing.

Exactly! VLS Brahmos requirement would severely restrict our choices to .... just Soryu. That too, if the Japanese accept, and a redesign is feasible, and affordable. Even then it would take some years to develop and certify it.

Much easier to get the best sub we can now and modify the missile instead, which is within our capability. Firing cruise missiles is only a secondary function of the sub anyway.

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Postby Kakkaji » 08 Nov 2016 00:20

Defence Ministry okays new blacklisting policy

The Ministry of Defence on Monday approved a new ‘blacklisting’ policy that will tackle corruption in defence deals and having a method to deal with foreign companies who pay bribes.
The Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) that met under the chairmanship of Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar okayed the new policy.
Its details shall be put out on the website of the MoD in a few days.
Sources said the MoD has decided to do away with having a system of ‘blanket blacklisting’.
The Tribune had reported details of this on October 26 on how the ‘blacklisting’ policy has been okayed. The DAC is the apex decision-making body of the MoD.
The new policy will have a pointed product-specific ban, aimed at punishing the corrupt among the foreign suppliers and not hold to ransom the country’s military and defence needs.
The new policy envisages that a person of a foreign company, if found to be indulging in corruption will not be allowed to deal in another case of the company’s subsidiary, sources said.
During the tenure of the Congress-led UPA (from May 2004 to May 2014), a ‘blanket blacklisting’ was followed and several new procurements are held up.
The MoD has decided to do away with ‘blanket blacklisting’ of foreign companies that were found guilty of offering bribes, a top official in the MoD told the Tribune.
‘Blacklisting’ a firm may not be a good option as it just forecloses options for India. There are no more than 4-5 equipment makers who are largely integrators of specialised parts produced by niche companies.
A sub-committee formed by the MoD will issue guidelines on the extent of blacklisting, its tenure and what all will be the procedure.

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Postby Austin » 08 Nov 2016 10:40

http://www.defensenews.com/articles/ind ... t-projects

The new defense procurement projects approved by DAC and valued at about $12.61 billion will be based in India and inducted in the next eight to 10 years.

Under the approved projects, 83 Tejas light combat aircraft Mark 1A, costing about $7.69 billion, and 15 light combat helicopters, at $447.84 million, will be manufactured by state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited.

State-owned Ordnance Factory Board will license produce Russia-made 464 T-90 main battle tanks at a cost of $206.89 million.

Additionally, domestic defense companies will be asked to build 598 mini-UAVs at a cost of $16.92 million.

DAC also approved the new domestic tender to procure six regiments of homemade Pinaka multi-barrel rocket launcher systems at a cost of $225.12 million to be manufactured by Indian defense companies.

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Postby Austin » 08 Nov 2016 10:44

So if the above data is correct for big ticket item

83 Tejas cost 7.69 USD Billion so each tejas cost $ 92 million USD ? { does it include spares engines weapons etc LCC ?}
15 chopper LCH cost 447.84 USD million , Each LCH cost ~ $ 29.85 million
464 T-90 Tank for $206.89 million , Each T-90 cost ~ $2.24 million

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Postby Aditya_V » 08 Nov 2016 10:48

Austin wrote:So if the above data is correct for big ticket item

83 Tejas cost 7.69 USD Billion so each tejas cost $ 92 million USD ? { does it include spares engines weapons etc LCC ?}
15 chopper LCH cost 447.84 USD million , Each LCH cost ~ $ 29.85 million
464 T-90 Tank for $206.89 million , Each T-90 cost ~ $2.24 million


Production line, spares, weaponry, base repair facilities etc probably

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Postby Austin » 08 Nov 2016 14:57

Looks like Defence News figures are not correct , many news papers are reporting these figures ( not sure what USD value is may be some one can convert to USD )

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/c ... tanks.html

The DAC also gave Acceptance of Necessity (AoN) to Indian Air Force's plan to purchase 83 Tejas Mark 1A aircraft at a cost of Rs 50,025 crore, Defence Ministry sources said.

It also accorded AON for the purchase of 15 Light Combat Aircraft being manufactured by HAL for the Army and Air Force for a tentative cost of about Rs 2,911 crore.

AoN was also given for the repeat order of 464 Russian origin T90 tanks which are being manufactured by the Ordnance Factory Board for Rs 13,448 crore, besides for procurement of 598 mini UAVs at a cost of Rs 1,100 crore.

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Postby Austin » 08 Nov 2016 15:04

Tejas Unit Cost = 602 Crore
LCH = 194 crore
T-90 Tank - 29 Crore


^^ How much is that in USD ?

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Postby Gyan » 08 Nov 2016 17:21

Brazil bought 36 Gripen for USD 5.4 Billion

Pakistan was offered 8 F-16 for USD 700 Million

Mirage 2000 upgrade deal USD 50 Million without AESA which will be available in LCA MK 1A

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby putnanja » 08 Nov 2016 18:19

Austin wrote:Tejas Unit Cost = 602 Crore
LCH = 194 crore
T-90 Tank - 29 Crore


^^ How much is that in USD ?


At Rs 66 to a USD,

LCA - $92 million
LCH - $30 million
T-90 - $4.4 million

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby Chinmay » 08 Nov 2016 18:58

92 million for a Tejas?? :shock: :shock:

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Postby kit » 08 Nov 2016 19:10

Chinmay wrote:92 million for a Tejas?? :shock: :shock:


that includes machine plants assembly lines ancillaries base workshops / maintenance depots etc etc .. wonder if weapons and AESA radars also included

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Postby JTull » 08 Nov 2016 19:26

kit wrote:
Chinmay wrote:92 million for a Tejas?? :shock: :shock:


that includes machine plants assembly lines ancillaries base workshops / maintenance depots etc etc .. wonder if weapons and AESA radars also included


Worth every penny to our economy!

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Postby kit » 16 Nov 2016 16:25

JTull wrote:
kit wrote:
that includes machine plants assembly lines ancillaries base workshops / maintenance depots etc etc .. wonder if weapons and AESA radars also included


Worth every penny to our economy!


+10001 !

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Postby Austin » 02 Dec 2016 12:15

"Kalashnikov" held talks on joint production in India

https://ria.ru/economy/20161201/1482642851.html

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Postby pkudva » 02 Dec 2016 14:02

http://www.business-standard.com/articl ... 300_1.html

Confirms the Contract for 3rd & 4th Regiment of Pinaka has been signed with Pvt Players. Welcome development with the signing of the M777 Contract too. Its a Golden Oppurtunity for the Industry & OFB to execute well & deliver the system on time to the Army.

I now wish, the much awaited K9 and procuring required sets of Robust Head Gears, Machine Gun,Carbines & Bullet Proof Jackets are Contracted in this Fiscal year.

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Postby Austin » 03 Dec 2016 22:02

Guddu wrote:Ajai Shukla reporting "US Congress to enshrine US-India defence ties in US law"...Russia badly out of funds, France a small socialist nation with small budget, China rapidly rising.....it seems to me F-35 is in the cards. The F-16 is coming and the F-35 will follow..seems crystal clear to me.


They can enshrine any thing they want , in the end the kind of deep TOT that US offers without strings attached and cost would be competing with Russian and French ....I would say its a long shot , We have yet to see any single deep TOT offered by US getting translated into projects , it been almost 15 years since Atal-GWB first came with Transfer of High Technology program.

USG and Private Companies guard their technology too well and dont want to part with it , Infact USG does not own this its the private companies , even MMRCA they did not allow any transfer of code by just module access

Compare that with Indo-Russian Brahmos , FGFA , MKI and so many other programs not to mentioned classifed prgrams like ATV or transfer of SSN , the relationship is very mature and built over many decades.

If this is a transactional buy then India-US program will go ahead.

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Postby Rammpal » 05 Dec 2016 07:25

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALeofy30oI8

Wide range of use

Border security – When it comes to daunting intruders by sole demonstration of power, size does matter. And ByeGravity drones are simply huge. They are not just there – they dominate the territory.
Search & Rescue – Drones are known to perform in the search part quite well. ByeGravity multicopters can do the rescue part too.
First response – When every second counts, traffic jams or terrain barriers may result in impermissible delays. Paramedics, firefighters and police officers riding ByeGravity personal transportation devices are les exposed.
Transportation – ByeGravity drones are capable of forwarding freights up to 100 kgs safely and autonomously. Payload can be deployed mid-air or after automated landing.

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Postby Viv S » 05 Dec 2016 09:56

Austin wrote:They can enshrine any thing they want , in the end the kind of deep TOT that US offers without strings attached and cost would be competing with Russian and French ....I would say its a long shot , We have yet to see any single deep TOT offered by US getting translated into projects , it been almost 15 years since Atal-GWB first came with Transfer of High Technology program.

Compare that with Indo-Russian Brahmos , FGFA , MKI and so many other programs not to mentioned classifed prgrams like ATV or transfer of SSN , the relationship is very mature and built over many decades.

By and large, ToT, whether deep or shallow, has proven to be a waste of time & waste of money. The essential learning process takes place primary through grassroots level domestic initiatives.

What we do get with the US is industrial participation by the pvt sector, allowing low-cost Indian suppliers to hook into global supply chains. The UK MoD, for example, placed an order for 50 AH-64Es in July. More than two thirds of them will have fuselages built by Tata. By 2018, TASL will be sole supplier of fuselages for the US Army (which is current negotiating a $4bn deal for 240 new aircraft).

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Postby Austin » 05 Dec 2016 11:14

Viv S wrote:By and large, ToT, whether deep or shallow, has proven to be a waste of time & waste of money. The essential learning process takes place primary through grassroots level domestic initiatives.


Tell that to GOI who is insisting on TOT for most deals these days

What we do get with the US is industrial participation by the pvt sector, allowing low-cost Indian suppliers to hook into global supply chains. The UK MoD, for example, placed an order for 50 AH-64Es in July. More than two thirds of them will have fuselages built by Tata. By 2018, TASL will be sole supplier of fuselages for the US Army (which is current negotiating a $4bn deal for 240 new aircraft).


These Low Cost deals are done from business POV , it benefits the company and the customer , HAL has been building Airbus Doors for years now , its low cost deal for Airbus and source of revenue for HAL.

US companies does not want to share techonology by and large which is fine they are interested in protecting their own companies IP ......reason we dont have any major JV with them based on TOT , like we do with Russia or Israel.

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Postby brar_w » 05 Dec 2016 19:15

Full text of the India specific portion of the NDAA approved by the House last week and expected to be approved by the Senate this week -

ENHANCING DEFENSE AND SECURITY COOPERATION WITH INDIA

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fi ... 4971442644

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Postby Viv S » 07 Dec 2016 00:18

Austin wrote:Tell that to GOI who is insisting on TOT for most deals these days

The same GoI that's suo moto introduced the competition for a non-Russian fighter jet? Just having the GoI's backing doesn't make a sacrosanct. That being said, please also keep in mind, that the export-driven 'Make-in-India' initiative is a central plank of GoI policy.

These Low Cost deals are done from business POV , it benefits the company and the customer , HAL has been building Airbus Doors for years now , its low cost deal for Airbus and source of revenue for HAL.

TASL has emerged as the only real competitor to HAL by broad-based 'low cost deals'. And such deals have benefited not just the company and the customer, but also the economy, by generating forex & employment and thereby the country.

US companies does not want to share techonology by and large which is fine they are interested in protecting their own companies IP ......reason we dont have any major JV with them based on TOT , like we do with Russia or Israel.

We've been doing ToT based production for decades now, for all the good it did us. Critical design competencies still had to be built up from scratch in almost all avenues. At least in the other case we'd be able to recycle some of the offsets into real exports.

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Postby Prem » 08 Dec 2016 03:15

https://sputniknews.com/asia/2016120710 ... launchers/
india Orders Locally Made Rocket Launchers, Despite Faulty Ammunition Issues

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Despite complaints of faulty ammunition, India’s Ministry of Defence (MoD) spent $490 million on 36 Pinaka Mark-1 multi-barrel rocket launchers, manufactured by the country’s own Defence Research and Development Organization (DRDO).Four prime contractors received the order for two additional regiments, containing 18 launchers each: Tata Power SED and Larsen & Toubro (L&T) from the private sector, and state-owned companies Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) and Bharat Earth Movers Limited (BEML). - Reports OGB will contribute an unspecified number of rockets, and a number of different vehicles for the rocket launchers will be supplied by BEML, with Tata Power and L&T providing the launcher systems. The Pinanka-1 will replace the Indian Army’s Soviet-era regiment of Russian-made Grad BM-21 MBRL systems. The new system will have a 40 kilometer (nearly 25 mile) range. New Dehli is awaiting the arrival of the Pinaka-2, which will feature an increased range of up to 60 kilometers. Though Pinaka-II was successfully test-fired at the Pokhran field firing range in May 2015, the development schedule for that project is unclear. © The Times of India quoted DRDO officials at the time saying, "High operational mobility, flexibility and accuracy are the major characteristics which give the weapon an edge in the modern artillery warfare for the Indian armed forces," adding that the launcher’s "quick reaction time gives an edge to the army during low-intensity warlike situations. The system's capability to incorporate several types of warheads makes it deadly for enemy." Retired Army official and defense analyst Rahul Bhonsle told Defense News, "Serious shortcomings have been noticed in the Pinaka-1 rockets as in a recent exercise; reports of the rockets exploding midair and at the firing port have been received. This indicates that the explosive used in the rockets may have been defective.” He added, “This will put a question mark on the further production and induction unless the defects are overcome." Southern Military District New Dehli’s Army is pleased with the rocket launchers, according to an unnamed MoD official, but "that is not to say that the system is perfect, it is on the path of evolving to a better system, and for the moment, the present versions are acceptable. Room for improvement, however, exists," he said. Bhupinder Yadav, another defense analyst and retired military official, said that technical issues persist with the homemade weapons. He explained that, "The production of Pinaka-1 rockets is on hold after some quality-related issues, mainly relating to OFB produced propellant such as short ranges, residues after firings and accidents relating to burst in launchers, etc," and that, "The supplies of fuses and its quality assurances is also an issue."

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Re: Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

Postby ramana » 08 Dec 2016 03:42

Looks like atrocity reporting on defense products made in India.
All those reports indicate the propellant binder is hardening with time.
Fuzes is another matter.

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Postby ramana » 08 Dec 2016 03:44

The INS Betwa accident shows the benefits of local mfg.
All its components are made in India and can be replaced quite inexpensively.

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Postby Vivek K » 08 Dec 2016 08:02

Absolutely agree. The IN must be supported for their brave decision in developing local industry.

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Postby Rakesh » 08 Dec 2016 09:05

The IN already enjoys considerable support in that area, but that has yet to have any effect on the Army or the Air Force.

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Postby shiv » 08 Dec 2016 09:14

The Indian Navy is now facing safety issues that IMO the Army and Air Force have experienced and dealt with. 10-15 years and more ago we used to see regular incidents of fire in army ammunition dumps. That has become infrequent now. So also the accident rate of the IAF

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Postby Khalsa » 08 Dec 2016 10:55

hmmmmm..... that is true (the IAF accident rate)

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Postby pkudva » 08 Dec 2016 11:49

Prem wrote:https://sputniknews.com/asia/201612071048291618-india-order-locally-made--launchers/
india Orders Locally Made Rocket Launchers, Despite Faulty Ammunition Issues

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Despite complaints of faulty ammunition, India’s Ministry of Defence (MoD) spent $490 million on 36 Pinaka Mark-1 multi-barrel rocket launchers, manufactured by the country’s own Defence Research and Development Organization (DRDO).Four prime contractors received the order for two additional regiments, containing 18 launchers each: Tata Power SED and Larsen & Toubro (L&T) from the private sector, and state-owned companies Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) and Bharat Earth Movers Limited (BEML). - Reports OGB will contribute an unspecified number of rockets, and a number of different vehicles for the rocket launchers will be supplied by BEML, with Tata Power and L&T providing the launcher systems. The Pinanka-1 will replace the Indian Army’s Soviet-era regiment of Russian-made Grad BM-21 MBRL systems. The new system will have a 40 kilometer (nearly 25 mile) range. New Dehli is awaiting the arrival of the Pinaka-2, which will feature an increased range of up to 60 kilometers. Though Pinaka-II was successfully test-fired at the Pokhran field firing range in May 2015, the development schedule for that project is unclear. © The Times of India quoted DRDO officials at the time saying, "High operational mobility, flexibility and accuracy are the major characteristics which give the weapon an edge in the modern artillery warfare for the Indian armed forces," adding that the launcher’s "quick reaction time gives an edge to the army during low-intensity warlike situations. The system's capability to incorporate several types of warheads makes it deadly for enemy." Retired Army official and defense analyst Rahul Bhonsle told Defense News, "Serious shortcomings have been noticed in the Pinaka-1 rockets as in a recent exercise; reports of the rockets exploding midair and at the firing port have been received. This indicates that the explosive used in the rockets may have been defective.” He added, “This will put a question mark on the further production and induction unless the defects are overcome." Southern Military District New Dehli’s Army is pleased with the rocket launchers, according to an unnamed MoD official, but "that is not to say that the system is perfect, it is on the path of evolving to a better system, and for the moment, the present versions are acceptable. Room for improvement, however, exists," he said. Bhupinder Yadav, another defense analyst and retired military official, said that technical issues persist with the homemade weapons. He explained that, "The production of Pinaka-1 rockets is on hold after some quality-related issues, mainly relating to OFB produced propellant such as short ranges, residues after firings and accidents relating to burst in launchers, etc," and that, "The supplies of fuses and its quality assurances is also an issue."


Cannot reply on Imports for Forever. Some where we need to make a Beginning. Agree that Ammunition may have a Problem, OFB should be taken to task and improvements should be made in Time bound Manner. Its time Local Industries should be promoted.
It is also to be noted this contract has been finalized at the Prices finalized in 2011. Inference is Local Industries want to support and Import Lobbies want to kill them. Better sense would be to be part of development band induct in large nos and make OFB more accountable to make deliveries in Time bound way . Pvt Industries sure will also benefit in larger way & get confidence to invest more in defence Infrastructure.

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Postby Lalmohan » 08 Dec 2016 18:58

^^^ article is planting bias memes in the janata...

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Postby shiv » 09 Dec 2016 18:00

Air Marshal (retd) Tyagi, former CAS arrested by CBI

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Postby Nikhil T » 10 Dec 2016 02:34

shiv wrote:Air Marshal (retd) Tyagi, former CAS arrested by CBI


A red letter day.

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Postby Kakkaji » 11 Dec 2016 08:09

'Signature' US defence project in works

New Delhi, Dec. 10: The US and India are set to shortly announce a "signature, big-ticket" project that will symbolise the finalisation of India as a "major defence partner", senior officials involved in the talks have said.

US defence secretary Ashton Carter was in New Delhi this week on a farewell visit and met defence minister Manohar Parrikar for the seventh time in two years.

Officials would not describe the "signature project". One official simply said "it flies".

This has led to speculation that Boeing and/or Lockheed Martin would be partnering an Indian entity to set up an assembly line for F/A-18 Super Hornet or F-16 Fighting Falcon combat jets.

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Postby Rakesh » 11 Dec 2016 23:43

If the above article is true, then please let it be the F-18. Pretty please :)

P.S. Can I click my heels on the yellow brick road and wish it was the Growler? :)

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Postby Ankit Desai » 12 Dec 2016 04:29

Centre fast-tracks ‘Make in India’ infantry combat vehicle project

The Union defence ministry is finally fast-tracking the long-pending mega 'Make in India' project to produce at least 2,610 future infantry combat vehicles (FICVs) for the Army at an estimated cost of about Rs 60,000 crore.

MoD sources said two of the five private contenders in the fray, apart from the Ordnance Factory Board (OFB), "will soon be selected" to design and build prototypes for the FICVs.

The government will fund 80% of the development cost, which could be around Rs 3,000-4,000 crore.

"The best prototype will then be selected for mass production. The ministry's integrated project management team (IPMT) is in the final stage of evaluating the EoI (expression of interest) responses submitted by the OFB and five private vendors," said a source. The private contenders are L&T, Mahindra, Pipavav Defence & Offshore Engineering and two consortiums of Tata Motors-Bharat Forge and Tata Power SED-Titagarh Wagons.

Basically armoured personnel carriers designed to swiftly transport infantry soldiers into the battlefield behind tanks, the FICVs are meant to gradually replace the old Russian-origin BMP-II infantry combat vehicles in the Army. Though not as deadly and well-protected as main-battle tanks, the amphibious troop carriers will have their own anti-tank missiles, cannons and machine guns.

The 1.3-million strong Army, incidentally, has 63 armoured regiments of T-90S, T-72 and Arjun tanks, backed by 44 Mechanised Infantry units with their BMPs, for swift multiple ground offensives into enemy territory.

But the FICV project has so far failed to take off due to glitches and controversies since it was first accorded "acceptance of necessity" under the 'Make (Hi-Tech)' category in October 2009. The previous EoI, issued in May 2010, was cancelled by the MoD after major faults were found in the evaluation process in December 2012.

The MoD hopes similar mistakes with the fresh EoI, which was issued in July last year, will not be repeated. But while the IPMT has sought repeated clarifications from the contenders, it has not visited and inspected their manufacturing facilities for an on-ground assessment till now.

The EoI lays down the contenders will be assessed on four major counts: commercial, technical capability, availability of critical technologies and technical specifications of the FICVs they propose to build. The sheer size of the "lucrative" FICV project has even seen some countries hard-sell their infantry combat vehicles to India.

The US, for instance, has showcased its Stryker armoured vehicles during the joint 'Yudh Abhyas' exercises. But the government is pushing the Make in India project for the Army.


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