CT & COIN Operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

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Re: CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discus

Postby member_20317 » 02 Aug 2013 20:48

The piglet is emaciated. Pakis not feeding their guys anything kya? Had these guys cooperated, our men would have fed them well before shooting them.

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Postby Aditya G » 30 Aug 2013 16:08

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/paki ... 04497.html

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Five Hizbul Mujahideen militants were on Friday killed in an encounter with security forces in Ganderbal district in Kashmir.

"Five militants belonging to the Qadri Asadullah group of Hizbul Mujahideen were killed in a counter-insurgency operation in Preng area of Ganderbal in the wee hours today," a Defence spokesman said.

He said the identities of the slain militants were being ascertained.

According to police sources, troops of 24 Rashtriya Rifles and police laid an ambush near the Najwan forest in Preng area, 65 kms from here, following input about movement of the ultras.

The militants walked into the ambush in early hours on Friday and were asked to surrender, the sources said.

However, the militants opened fire on the security forces' positions which was retaliated by the army and police, the sources said, adding five militants were killed in the gunbattle.

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Postby Prem Kumar » 30 Aug 2013 21:09

I thought HM was dead or dying. There has been a spike in HM attacks, their audacity (like attacks in Srinagar, killing of BSF jawans etc) & casualties suffered by them in the last 3 months. Must have been a spurt in summer infiltration or sleeper cells getting activated

With Unkil's AfPak withdrawal, many more recruits would get absorbed under the HM umbrella. We should also start seeing a spurt in new organizations due to the jihadi reorganization in $hitistan from their Western border to the Eastern border

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Postby joygoswami » 31 Aug 2013 07:30

GRAPHIC CONTENT : Picture of 5 Hizbul pigs killed yesterday. Apologies for the graphic picture, feel free to remove it mods.

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PS : Can anyone shed light as to what IA might have used to hit these pigs. Its a damn carnage. :twisted: :twisted:

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Postby Prem Kumar » 31 Aug 2013 08:00

Wow! Either multiple shots or high caliber stuff - probably LMGs at relatively close ranges.

If the bodies werent moved before taking the picture, it looks like the HM pigs were walking in a close file and were ambushed right royally.

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Postby member_20067 » 31 Aug 2013 09:16

Prem Kumar wrote:Wow! Either multiple shots or high caliber stuff - probably LMGs at relatively close ranges.

If the bodies werent moved before taking the picture, it looks like the HM pigs were walking in a close file and were ambushed right royally.


orgasmic sight..!!

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Postby joygoswami » 31 Aug 2013 10:50

Made my day. May this fate befall every pig who dares their cast their eyes on us. Thank You Indian Army once again for bringing death to Evil.

Jai Hanumaan gyaan gun saagar, jai kapees tihu lok ujaagar
Ram Duware tum rakhware, Hot na aagya binu paisare.
Bhut pisach nikat nahi aavai, Mahaveer jab naam sunavai.
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Postby Aditya G » 31 Aug 2013 12:22

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 180983.cms

SRINAGAR: Army today foiled a major infiltration bid along the Line of Control in Kashmir, killing five militants.

Troops noticed movement of heavily armed militants near the LoC in Tangdhar sector in Kupwara district, 185 kms from here, during the intervening night of August 30 and 31, an army official said.

The infiltrators were challenged by the troops leading to a gunfight between the two sides.

"So far, five militants have been killed.The combing operation is in progress in the area as there were reports that the group comprised six militants," the official said.

The elimination of the infiltrators comes a day after security forces killed five top foreign militants of Hizbul Mujahideen, including district commander Qari Assadullah, in Kangan area of central Kashmir Ganderbal district.

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Postby Prem Kumar » 01 Sep 2013 01:08

That makes it 11 in 2 days. 1 pig still at large. Our chaps must have amazingly good intel!

Thank you Indian Army for keeping our country safe from such scum!

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Postby Prem » 03 Sep 2013 09:08

Its about time we start cremation ceremony using Arapic Petrol for them and throw the Haddia in Sewage.Do the same to Shalwar Shivering Gandu Unit of Pakijantu who committed Murdered of sleeping soldiers.

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Postby Nitesh » 26 Sep 2013 15:36

This is big, 30 are going to be killed today

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/army ... 11812.html

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Postby krishnan » 26 Sep 2013 15:39

i think the attack earlier was a way to make this happen, they though the whole army would get busy in conforting the 4 odd terrorists and these pigs could slip through

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Postby Aditya G » 26 Sep 2013 16:23

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/j-k-t ... rmy-424096

... "Four terrorists entered Jammu region from across the border this morning," said Home Minister Sushil Kumar Shinde, quoting preliminary reports, according to PTI. The news agency also quotes the Army as saying that it foiled a major infiltration bid along the Line of Control in Keran sector of Kupwara yesterday and that around 30 militants are still believed to be trapped as security forces have cordoned off the area.

The heavily armed terrorists attacked the Hiranagar police station in Kathua district of J&K at about 6.45 this morning. They shot the sentry outside and three cops inside the police station and then escaped in a truck that they hijacked, to surface in an Army cantonment in the adjoining Samba district.

At the camp, they reportedly walked into the officer's mess shouting jihadi slogans and killed at least five unarmed Armymen, including the Lt Col, who was the second in command of the 16 Cavalry, the armoured corp unit attacked today. The Lieutenant Colonel was reportedly shot in the stomach at point back range.

The commanding officer of 16 Cavalry is among over a dozen people injured in the two attacks. He has been shot twice and is in critical condition. ...
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Postby ramana » 26 Sep 2013 23:14

One question. Why are IA soldiers not carrying side arms in border areas so close to the TSP?

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Postby anjan » 26 Sep 2013 23:50

ramana wrote:One question. Why are IA soldiers not carrying side arms in border areas so close to the TSP?
Side arms are only ever used by officers and maybe certain weapon/vehicle crews like helo pilots etc. No one should need to be armed inside the Mess. This was a goof up in security of the base. Given its Jammu that seems odd but I guess we'll have to wait for a CoI. Walking around like a mobile armoury is something distinctively American and I doubt it does them that much good either.

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Postby Aditya G » 27 Sep 2013 08:22

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Army vehicles, including tanks, on the move in the Army HQ at Samba in Jammu after the attack by militants. (ANI Photo)

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Recon choppers flying over Army HQ in Samba after militants stormed inside, killing several army personnel. (ANI Photo)

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Postby anjan » 29 Sep 2013 07:46

Sad news for 16 Cav still recouping from the mess last year. Rumor regarding kit and training is that this was SSG.

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Postby member_23455 » 29 Sep 2013 08:06

anjan wrote:
ramana wrote:Given its Jammu that seems odd but I guess we'll have to wait for a CoI. Walking around like a mobile armoury is something distinctively American and I doubt it does them that much good either.


...as evidenced in the Camp Bastion attack.

The element of surprise in combat is massively underrated. The only way such attacks can be neutralized is if there has been prior intel resulting in an upgraded "force protection posture" - more sentries, sensors etc.

Why there was no clearing away of natural cover on approaches, and many soldiers armed with 7.62mm SLRs does raise a few questions though.

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Postby ramana » 29 Sep 2013 08:17

Read the J&K thread where there is a officers account of the Samba attack. There was early confusion due to the terrorists attire.

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Postby Aditya G » 29 Sep 2013 12:06

ramana wrote:Read the J&K thread where there is a officers account of the Samba attack. There was early confusion due to the terrorists attire.


They were even wearing Camel Backs - typical for US forces:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVF9zi_CcAIX2Vy.jpg

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Postby member_23455 » 29 Sep 2013 14:20

Aditya G wrote:
ramana wrote:Read the J&K thread where there is a officers account of the Samba attack. There was early confusion due to the terrorists attire.


They were even wearing Camel Backs - typical for US forces:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVF9zi_CcAIX2Vy.jpg


CamelBak...minor nitpick, it's a brand. OT, but can be purchased in most Indian metros as well.

Quality of equipment has never been a problem for any Islamic militant outfit:

1. NVGs - every single LoC infiltration at night
2. Garmin GPS devices (26/11)
3. US/NATO uniform/gear (Camp Bastion) - courtesy all the trucks that get "looted" in Pakistan
4. Kornet ATGMs - Hezbollah vs. Israel.

...and so on.

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Postby atreya » 30 Sep 2013 13:44

Any paanwala khabar regarding the 30 militants trapped in the Keran sector?

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Postby dnivas » 30 Sep 2013 14:05

atreya wrote:Any paanwala khabar regarding the 30 militants trapped in the Keran sector?


not to start a fight, but why would you call them militants instead of terrorist pakis.

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Postby atreya » 30 Sep 2013 16:34

Call them 'pigs' and all other colourful terms for all I care, I was just concerned about the status of the operation. Didn't pay any attention to the word I used :)

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Postby member_23455 » 30 Sep 2013 17:35

atreya wrote:Any paanwala khabar regarding the 30 militants trapped in the Keran sector?


GOC 15 Corps alluding to some 12 "bodies" here.

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/truth-vs-hype/jammu-encounter-fatal-flaws/292460

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Postby Pranav » 30 Sep 2013 19:15

x-post from NaMo thread:

IM now controlled by Al Qaeda - http://www.sunday-guardian.com/news/im- ... Qk.twitter

A highly placed source in an Indian intelligence agency said, "The duo made extensive use of codes in their conversations. Codes such as Ticket for arms and ammunition, Andar for India, Upar for Afghanistan, Chote for Riyaz and Bade for Ikbal were used." One such message sent by Yasin to Riyaz reads, "andar se upar bhej dete hain, ticket dilwa dijiyega." This means, over 35 to 40 youths picked up from parts like Darbhanga and Eastern UP are being sent to Afghanistan. Please train them.

Sources say that things have radically changed in the IM after it was adopted by Al Qaeda. "Now there is no dearth of funds for the organisation," hinted a highly placed IB official. As per the new arrangement, Tahsheen Akhtar, a native of Samastipur in Bihar and Mohammed Wakar, a Pakistani resident have been made the Indian chiefs of IM with the responsibility to carry out deadly attacks. These men were also responsible for the blasts in Varanasi, Hyderabad and Mumbai.


This is particularly important given Yasin Bhatkal's statement that Modi is the prime target.

If this report is true, IM may be being controlled by the same forces that are controlling the Jihadist cannibals in Syria.

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Postby member_27603 » 01 Oct 2013 01:59

RajitO wrote:
atreya wrote:Any paanwala khabar regarding the 30 militants trapped in the Keran sector?


GOC 15 Corps alluding to some 12 "bodies" here.

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/truth-vs-hype/jammu-encounter-fatal-flaws/292460


Do u think all of them have dissappeared !!! I doubt !!

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Postby Karan M » 01 Oct 2013 02:09

Pranav wrote:x-post from NaMo thread:

IM now controlled by Al Qaeda - http://www.sunday-guardian.com/news/im- ... Qk.twitter

A highly placed source in an Indian intelligence agency said, "The duo made extensive use of codes in their conversations. Codes such as Ticket for arms and ammunition, Andar for India, Upar for Afghanistan, Chote for Riyaz and Bade for Ikbal were used." One such message sent by Yasin to Riyaz reads, "andar se upar bhej dete hain, ticket dilwa dijiyega." This means, over 35 to 40 youths picked up from parts like Darbhanga and Eastern UP are being sent to Afghanistan. Please train them.

Sources say that things have radically changed in the IM after it was adopted by Al Qaeda. "Now there is no dearth of funds for the organisation," hinted a highly placed IB official. As per the new arrangement, Tahsheen Akhtar, a native of Samastipur in Bihar and Mohammed Wakar, a Pakistani resident have been made the Indian chiefs of IM with the responsibility to carry out deadly attacks. These men were also responsible for the blasts in Varanasi, Hyderabad and Mumbai.


This is particularly important given Yasin Bhatkal's statement that Modi is the prime target.

If this report is true, IM may be being controlled by the same forces that are controlling the Jihadist cannibals in Syria.


All this proves is that Al Q and ISI are hand in glove.

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Postby manjgu » 01 Oct 2013 04:18

saw the border lit up at night from an aeroflot flight !! looks like a loooooooooooong snake !! very impressive...

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Postby Pranav » 01 Oct 2013 09:07

Karan M wrote:
This is particularly important given Yasin Bhatkal's statement that Modi is the prime target.

If this report is true, IM may be being controlled by the same forces that are controlling the Jihadist cannibals in Syria.


All this proves is that Al Q and ISI are hand in glove.


Al Q comes in two varieties.

One variety makes itself useful to US / Saudi / Israel (e.g. the Syria Jihadists).

The other variety is somewhat orphaned, but they have been helped to some extent by the Paks. Osama belonged to the second type.

There is all kinds of collaboration but as the events like the execution of Col Iman and Rawalpindi mosque attack have shown, there are complications too.

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Hmmm...these anonymous inside accounts are mixed blessings - they confirm some details and confuse others to the point of raising questions about credibility. The CO, Col Avin Utthaiya till now had been reported as being unarmed and on his morning walk, when shot.

Now he is in a T-72 charging down the terrorists, apparently exposing himself in an unbuttoned commander's hatch, allowing himself to be shot in the chest. :?:

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Postby prahaar » 01 Oct 2013 10:35

RajitO wrote:


Hmmm...these anonymous inside accounts are mixed blessings - they confirm some details and confuse others to the point of raising questions about credibility. The CO, Col Avin Utthaiya till now had been reported as being unarmed and on his morning walk, when shot.

Now he is in a T-72 charging down the terrorists, apparently exposing himself in an unbuttoned commander's hatch, allowing himself to be shot in the chest. :?:


This account matches the email which Chetakji had shared. Probably IDR got it from the same source/network.

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Postby jamwal » 26 Nov 2013 20:17

Pictures of 35 dead wannabe ghazi pigs, killed in J&K over the years.

NSFL
http://imgur.com/a/U8WQz


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Postby partha » 27 Dec 2013 08:52

You can't sumsumne create threads like that :) Please post this in one of the existing threads. IB4TL.

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Postby Aditya G » 27 Dec 2013 16:32

http://zeenews.india.com/news/nation/cr ... 99778.html

New Delhi: The Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) has launched a massive anti-Naxal operations in the states of Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand, Maharashtra, West Bengal, Odisha, Bihar, Andhra Pradesh and Madhya Pradesh, reports said on Friday.

As per reports, nearly 40,000 security personnel will be involved in the operation against the Maoists over the next four days.

Police forces in these eight states are said to be assisting the CRPF.

All India Radio quoted CRPF Director General Dilip Trivedi, as saying that the idea behind the security operation was to prevent Naxals from fleeing into neighbouring territories from their own original places of stay.

Once the operation is over, he said that an analysis would be done on its impact and outcome, and whether there is a need for conducting future offensives of this nature.

The ITBP, BSF and SSB are also participating in the operation. BSF and IAF helicopters have been positioned for air droppings and evacuation.

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Postby Aditya G » 14 Jan 2014 22:09

Op Bluestar debates will be hogging the 9 PM shows for next 1 week....

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 782829.cms

LONDON: British Prime Minister David Cameron has directed his Cabinet Secretary to establish the facts behind claims that Margaret Thatcher's government may have helped Indira Gandhi plan Operation Bluestar in 1984.

Labour MP Tom Watson and Lord Indarjit Singh had demanded an explanation after recently declassified documents indicated that Britain's Special Air Service (SAS) officials had been dispatched to help India on the planning on the raid of the Golden Temple ...

A letter marked "top secret and personal" dated February 23, 1984, nearly four months before the incident in Amritsar, titled 'Sikh Community', reads: "The Indian authorities recently sought British advice over a plan to remove Sikh extremists from the Golden Temple in Amritsar.

"The Foreign Secretary decided to respond favourably to the Indian request and, with the Prime Minister's agreement, an SAD (sic) officer has visited India and drawn up a plan which has been approved by Mrs Gand ..

Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/art ... aign=cppst

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Postby Aditya G » 14 Jan 2014 22:30

The original letters being spoken of:

http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/wp-content/ ... Temple.pdf

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Postby member_27603 » 15 Jan 2014 00:08

Aditya G wrote:Op Bluestar debates will be hogging the 9 PM shows for next 1 week....

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 782829.cms

LONDON: British Prime Minister David Cameron has directed his Cabinet Secretary to establish the facts behind claims that Margaret Thatcher's government may have helped Indira Gandhi plan Operation Bluestar in 1984.

Labour MP Tom Watson and Lord Indarjit Singh had demanded an explanation after recently declassified documents indicated that Britain's Special Air Service (SAS) officials had been dispatched to help India on the planning on the raid of the Golden Temple ...

A letter marked "top secret and personal" dated February 23, 1984, nearly four months before the incident in Amritsar, titled 'Sikh Community', reads: "The Indian authorities recently sought British advice over a plan to remove Sikh extremists from the Golden Temple in Amritsar.

"The Foreign Secretary decided to respond favourably to the Indian request and, with the Prime Minister's agreement, an SAD (sic) officer has visited India and drawn up a plan which has been approved by Mrs Gand ..

Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/art ... aign=cppst



How does it matter now IG is dead, RG is dead too, Sonia was an Italian then, Pappu was in Diapers so come on who will answer the questions.


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