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CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

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Re: CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

Postby jamwal » 25 Jun 2017 20:57

According to a journalist in Kashmir, it was Para SF who cleared out the terrorists from DPS school. If I am not wrong, this is the one located just outside the main Srinagar city. It is one of very few schools which has managed to provide comparatively uninterrupted schooling in the region for past 2-3 years.

"The enemy has a nefarious design that the school buildings are destroyed and children have nothing to study and ultimately abandon their studies, which we will ensure that no such thing happens," the state police chief said.

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Re: CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

Postby DrRatnadip » 26 Jun 2017 01:08

Cross border trade of various goods is long known to be major source of funding for local terrorists and separists.. We should not let single grain of salt to be traded accross LOC.. Local traders should be better integrated with rest of country instead.. Pakis want to disturb schools/ loot banks / provide escorts to hiding militants through stone pelters.. This can be limited to great extent by shutting down their major funding pathway..
We are loosing good men while each successive govt is busy in promoting cross border trade and giving protection to separists..

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Re: CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

Postby Kashi » 26 Jun 2017 06:07

X-post

Apparently a big operation under way in the heart of Maoist stronghold.

ANI‏@ANI_news
Getting ground inputs of 20 naxals killed in #Tondamarka encounter;forces bravely confronted them in naxals' stronghold:DIG Bastar Sundarraj.


ANI‏@ANI_news
Operation in this core area had never taken place, ops were planned based on inputs by security forces & intelligence agencies: Sukma SP


http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/more-tha ... ma-1716812

Raipur: More than 12 Maoists have been killed in a massive anti-Maoist operation launched jointly by the Chhattisgarh Police and CRPF (Central Reserved Police Force) in Sukma district today. Three jawans have also died in Operation Prahar, said DM Awasthi, a senior officer connected with the anti-Maoist operations in the state. The exchange of fire had gone on for 12 hours.

Operation Prahar is one of the biggest operations aimed at flushing out the Maoists hiding in forests of Tondamarka, an area located in the Maoist stronghold of the state's Sukma, where a Maoist attack had claimed the lives of 25 securitymen in April.

The 56-hour long operation had started on Saturday. More than 1,500 security personnel took part in the operation.

"More than a dozen Naxals have died in this operation. All the bodies could not be recovered due to heavy firing, which lasted for approximately 12 hours. It was the first initiative of its kind," Mr Awasthi said.
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Reports said the Maoist casualties included Korsa Mahesh, a senior operative who would disguise himself as a police officer. A self-loading rifle was recovered from his possession.

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Re: CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

Postby DrRatnadip » 01 Jul 2017 13:30

http://m.timesofindia.com/india/encount ... 395577.cms

NEW DELHI: Two terrorists, including a top Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) commander, were killed after an hours-long standoff with security forces in Dailgam village in Jammu and Kashmir's Anantnag district
Earlier in the day, security forces launched cordon and search operations in the Brenti-Batpora area, acting on intelligence on the presence of terrorists in the area.

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Re: CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

Postby Iyersan » 01 Jul 2017 14:46

:D excellent

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Postby rahulm » 01 Jul 2017 15:10

Insulting question by TV anchor led to planning of PoK surgical strikes, says Manohar Parrikar

We planned 15 months in advance. Additional troops were trained. Equipment was procured on priority basis,” he said. The Swathi Weapon Locating Radar, developed by the DRDO, was used first in September 2016 to locate “firing units” of Pakistani Army, though the system was inducted officially three months later, Parrikar said. Thanks to this Radar, forty firing units of Pakistani Army were destroyed, he added.

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Re: CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

Postby DrRatnadip » 01 Jul 2017 15:40

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... s-4730543/

Reacting strongly to Manohar Parrikar’s ‘surgical strikes’ remark, former Jammu and Kashmir chief minister Omar Abdullah asked whether ‘we are supposed to feel safer with this sort of decision making.’

Days of dossier therapy are over Mr. Abdullah and yes we do feel safe with such decision making.. If people with selfish intersts feel unsafe its their problem..Thank you MP sir for not taking such insult lightly..

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Re: CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

Postby DrRatnadip » 01 Jul 2017 15:49

Terrorist killed today was involved in killing 6 policemen few days back..Two civilians - Tahira and Shadab Chopan - also lost their lives in the crossfiring. 44-year-old Tahira was rushed to the district hospital, where she succumbed to her injuries, officials said. Chopan, 21, was allegedly killed in security forces' action against protesters near the encounter site. Four other persons were admitted to hospitals with firearm injuries sustained near the scene of the counter-operation.

Use of heavy hands is must to deter further interfernce with security operations..

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Re: CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

Postby DrRatnadip » 01 Jul 2017 15:53

http://m.timesofindia.com/india/nia-to- ... 393301.cms

NEW DELHI: The National Investigation Agency probe into the barter trade between India and Pakistan at LoC is almost finalised and agency has decided to write to the government recommending closure of the trade, which agency sources said is largely being misused and several traders are involved in funding terror activities in Jammu and Kashmir.

Stop this trade tamasha ASAP.. :evil:

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Re: CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

Postby williams » 01 Jul 2017 18:34

DrRatnadip wrote:http://indianexpress.com/article/india/omar-abdullah-lashes-out-after-manohar-parrikars-remarks-on-surgical-strikes-4730543/


We need to get a dedicated DM to enable such kind of critical decision making. Hopefully PM Modi will appoint one after the Presidential election. Gen V.K will be a good choice.

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Re: CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

Postby Prasad » 01 Jul 2017 23:00

That is a hit job. ANI printed retraction saying that was incorrect. Bledy prestitutes.

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Re: CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

Postby DrRatnadip » 11 Jul 2017 22:38

http://m.timesofindia.com/india/encount ... 549136.cms

Encounter in J&K's Budgam: 2 terrorists believed to be trapped

SRINAGAR: An encounter broke out on Tuesday evening between security forces and terrorists in central Kashmir's Budgam district, police said.
Security forces launched a cordon-and-search operation in Redbug area of Budgam after receiving specific intelligence inputs about the presence of terrorists in the area, said a police official who refused to be identified.

I am not an expert but i feel publishing news about ongoing security operations will do more harm than good.. :x

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Re: CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

Postby Kashi » 12 Jul 2017 08:17

^ Three HuM terrorists neutralised.

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Re: CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

Postby joygoswami » 16 Jul 2017 00:14

Unrelated. But never seen any jihadi flaunting INSAS. This was recovered from Khifayat Khaday, from Zakir Musa Grp. July 02, Anantnag.

Warning: GRAPHIC CONTENT

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Re: CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

Postby RoyG » 16 Jul 2017 02:26

joygoswami wrote:Unrelated. But never seen any jihadi flaunting INSAS. This was recovered from Khifayat Khaday, from Zakir Musa Grp. July 02, Anantnag.

Warning: GRAPHIC CONTENT


Sawed off the buttstock and shortened the sling to keep it concealed under the coat and allow for more accurate medium range engagement.

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Postby Khalsa » 16 Jul 2017 07:49

RoyG wrote:
joygoswami wrote:Unrelated. But never seen any jihadi flaunting INSAS. This was recovered from Khifayat Khaday, from Zakir Musa Grp. July 02, Anantnag.

Warning: GRAPHIC CONTENT


Sawed off the buttstock and shortened the sling to keep it concealed under the coat and allow for more accurate medium range engagement.


Interesting very interesting.
Picking up rifles from the enemy dead has been done but never in sustained manner due to logistical reqs.
Guess they must either have good ammo supply OR are scrapping the bottom of their own barrel.

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Re: CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

Postby Karthik S » 17 Jul 2017 22:21

Aditya Raj Kaul‏Verified account @AdityaRajKaul 9m9 minutes ago
#BREAKING: Three Lashkar terrorists who were associates of #AmarnathTerrorAttack mastermind Abu Ismail gunned down in Anantnag by forces.

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Re: CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

Postby Prem » 17 Jul 2017 23:06

defence360_Official‏ @Defence_360 35m35 minutes ago
3 Lashker Pigs Saad, Jibran and Nasir killed in an Encounter with forces at BulBul Nowgam a top police... http://fb.me/7NZ2ZVE4V

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Re: CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

Postby jamwal » 17 Jul 2017 23:51

What is interesting is that the civilian jihadis have stopped forming mobs and pelting stones at security forces. 3 4 retards gaining 72 hoors was enough to put fear of death in most wannabe ghazis.

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Re: CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

Postby kvraghav » 18 Jul 2017 00:05

jamwal wrote:What is interesting is that the civilian jihadis have stopped forming mobs and pelting stones at security forces. 3 4 retards gaining 72 hoors was enough to put fear of death in most wannabe ghazis.

Jamwal sir, I have two queries. Had to face very hostile peacefulls in kargill and sonamarg during leh , ladhak trip. Are they always this bad ? Secondly does J&K follow something called ranvir penal code rather than IPC?
Thanks in advance.

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Re: CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

Postby manjgu » 18 Jul 2017 06:25

usually peacefools are not overtly hostile towards tourists... been travelling on that route for ages...last one being 1 week ago !! did something happen?

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Re: CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

Postby kvraghav » 18 Jul 2017 07:48

manjgu wrote:usually peacefools are not overtly hostile towards tourists... been travelling on that route for ages...last one being 1 week ago !! did something happen?

There were couple of incidents of spitting on us when we were riding bullets.

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Re: CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

Postby sum » 18 Jul 2017 07:50

^^ Completely lost citizenry of India it looks like since i heard some similar stuff from few other friends who had visited there...Wonder how to recover them back into the fold

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Re: CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

Postby joygoswami » 18 Jul 2017 13:23

Nowgam Encounter. Notice one of them has a looted FAL with barrel sawed-off.
**Warning: Graphic Dead Jihadis.

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Re: CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

Postby jamwal » 18 Jul 2017 16:34

kvraghav wrote:
jamwal wrote:What is interesting is that the civilian jihadis have stopped forming mobs and pelting stones at security forces. 3 4 retards gaining 72 hoors was enough to put fear of death in most wannabe ghazis.

Jamwal sir, I have two queries. Had to face very hostile peacefulls in kargill and sonamarg during leh , ladhak trip. Are they always this bad ? Secondly does J&K follow something called ranvir penal code rather than IPC?
Thanks in advance.

Pliss drop ji.

I am very surprised to hear that locals in Kargil did this. They are mostly Shias and not as bad sunni kashmiris. They have a lot of islamists but this is a new low. Sonmarg, Baramulla and other nearby areas are very hostile and full of rabid islamists. Most of terrorist and civilian jihadi violence happen there. Locals in Srinagar and nearby are not as bad because many of them have properties and relatives outside Kashmir too. They stay in limits mostly due to fear of reprisals.


Attacks on tourists and pilgrims are not new. They happen every year but local papers hardly ever publish it and mainstream media is too scared to upset kashmiriyat narrative.

Kashmiri muslims including porters and mule owners assaulted pilgrims, stole stuff, destroyed langars and urinated and spat on sacred havan kunds and pictures last year. It is very regular to hear kashmiri muslims ganging up and assaulting tourists vehicles even with women and children inside.

I was in Kashmir last month and a tourist Tempo Traveler was stoned by locals in Anantnag or maybe Pahalgam. This never makes to news and most Indians beleive that Kashmir is safe for tourists.
For people on a road trip to Laddakh, i always advise taking Manali route or spend as little time as possible in Kashmir. Bragging rights and selfies in Kashmir are not worth the risk.

It is not safe. Muslims there hate Hindus and other non muslim Indians. There are a few good people, but they are a silent minority.

I had written a travelogue which covered some of it.

TL;DR for people who are planning a Kashmir trip:
Q: Is the place beautiful ?
A: A lot of beautiful places, but man made places are badly maintained and natural places poorly preserved.

Q: Is it safe ?
A: Few days before we confirmed tickets, some tourist vehicles were attacked and tourists received injuries. Another tourist vehicle owned by our driver’s family was attacked similarly while we were there. A terrorist attack happened in Anantnag almost the same time we were driving through it. We could’t visit a few places because of stone pelting and curfews. All these incidents happened in different parts of the valley. There is very little danger from terrorist attacks though.

Q: How are people ?
A: If you know them personally, very hospitable and welcoming. But if you are a prospective customer, then majority of kashmiri tourism businesses are extremely conniving and annoying. Before you say, “it’s like this everywhere”, NO it’s not as bad as in kashmir.

Q: Is Kashmir worth visiting ?
A: Maybe, if you are willing to take risks like those mentioned above. If you really want to visit Kashmir, don’t do it during Amarnath yatra season. Everything will be very over-priced and in short supply.




Due to article 370 and special status, JK does follow Ranbir Penal Code. It is very similar to Indian Penal Code but I don't have detailed knowledge about it.

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Re: CT and COIN operations in India: News, Images and Discussion

Postby jamwal » 18 Jul 2017 16:35

sum wrote:^^ Completely lost citizenry of India it looks like since i heard some similar stuff from few other friends who had visited there...Wonder how to recover them back into the fold

Minimum should be forced sterlisation.


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