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In line with media reports.

We should recall these changes years later when GOI track record is examined.
jamwal wrote:A random j and k chaiwallah was in a paan shop talking to workers there. Seems like that the workers have a lot more autnomy to neutralise rats . Older owners put in a lot of restrictions, managers had to jump through hoops to get permission to take strong actions and so on.

Now workers have good support from central distributor, designs and instructions are much better, on time and the morale is up.
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http://www.dailyexcelsior.com/centre-not-stop-trade/
NEW DELHI, Aug 1:
The cross-LoC trade between Jammu and Kashmir and Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK) will not be stopped, notwithstanding reports of terror funding being done through two trading points of the State, the Government has asserted.
This was conveyed to Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister Mehbooba Mufti by Union Home Secretary Rajiv Mehrishi during a meeting held in Srinagar yesterday, a Home Ministry official privy to the development said today.

The Union Home Secretary told Mehbooba that the Central Government has no plans to stop the cross-LoC trade between Jammu and Kashmir and the PoK even though the trade between the divided Kashmir has been caught in a controversy after the NIA’s investigation into terror funding in Kashmir, the official said.
Mehbooba last week had strongly rooted for cross-LoC trade, stating that the PDP would not allow its closure and continue to work towards opening more routes across the Line of Control with PoK.
Meanwhile, the Centre is all set to procure two truck scanners to be installed along the Muzaffarabad-Uri and Poonch-Rawalakote routes soon, the official said. (PTI).
Whats is the hold here? why does the center give such a long rope for PDP regime?
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First trade is needed...two thats how they will flush out rats
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pandyan wrote:First trade is needed...two thats how they will flush out rats
.... Or we use that channel for our own schemes and ops
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Aditya G wrote: .... Or we use that channel for our own schemes and ops



When you build a fence, you fence out more than you fence in

Now all of you hear this very carefully as it will pay you great dividends later on in life.

So imagine yourself living on an open piece of land, you own say 600 sq meteres but yet when you walk outside your house you can see vast emptiness and beauty of land for miles and miles, you can think plan and dominate what lies out there.

But for some reason you decide to build yourself a 6 feet high fence around that 600 sqm. Gone are the views, the views that inspired the mind to think , plan and dominate the rest. Now a rat or a thief can walk to just outside your fence without you noticing it.
Now you have psychologically retreated to that miniscule 600 sq m.
Everytime you go out you feel like you are stepping into the unknown.


That is exactly what we had been doing wrong in Kashmir for the previous 40 years.
We fenced ourselves in.

We need to get rid of the fence, NO not the physical one but the one that exists in our head.
And this govt is doing that. Our special forces now go across , conduct raids. Hot pursuits are subject of discussion instead of taboo.
Cross border retaliation was openly celebrated and accepted.

So Yes Aditya.
yes we should use that for our own schemes too.
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Two armymen including major martyred near Shopian... :( RIP brave sons of motherland..

http://zeenews.india.com/jammu-and-kash ... 29644.html

Srinagar: Two armymen, including a major, were martyred while three reportedly injured in an ongoing encounter that broke out between security forces and militants at the Imam Sahab area of South Kashmir`s Shopian district on Thursday morning. The Terrorists had attacked the police patrolling party.

About 2 to 3 militants are reportedly holed up in the area. Further details are awaited.
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http://m.timesofindia.com/india/dujana- ... 888993.cms

Dujana to Armyman: Congrats, you caught me... But I can’t surrender

PULWAMA / SRINAGAR: Minutes before security forces eliminated Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) terrorist Abu Dujana in Pulwama on Wednesday, he rejected a phone call from an Army officer to surrender while admitting that he had left behind his parents in Gilgit-Baltistan for jihad.
TOI has exclusively accessed the conversation between Dujana and the officer who commissioned a Kashmiri civilian to begin the conversation. In the tape, the terrorist is heard speaking nonchalantly while making a sarcastic query to the Army officer. After the civilian spoke the first few words and gave the phone to the officer, Dujana asked, "Kya haal hai? Maine kaha, kya haal hai (how are you. I asked, how are you)?" The officer tells Dujana, "Humara haal chhor Dujana. Why don't you surrender? You have married this girl. What you are doing isn't right."
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Looks like they want him to look like a hero. "Fought till the end" kind of.
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DrRatnadip wrote:http://m.timesofindia.com/india/dujana- ... 888993.cms

Dujana to Armyman: Congrats, you caught me... But I can’t surrender
This is where I have serious reservations against our prestitutes. Why are they projecting him as a dedicated hero for a cause? He was a scumbag who killed people. Now established media like TOI is publishing a news as if this was "look he died a hero". I suspect if overtime such businesses are full of leftist and separatist minded people itself. The same conversation can be interpreted as the terrorist did not want to surrender in fear of getting tortured, or Army even though having surrounded him tried its best to get him alive, but alas TOI chose the other way.
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Comment - at the bottom - of the TOI article posted by DrRatnadip.
He was trained to believe that he will not get his 72 virgins if he surrenders. Lure of whores is so strong.

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This 72 whore concept I never understood - This means after they die there is something that goes to heaven or dozakh and this if not the body must be the soul - the aatma. If they recognize the concept of Aatma and the pleasure it can attain due to the karm they did on Earth and have pleasure with 72 whores I am sure the same aatma could also take rebirth. These pigs should be taught this basic connection.
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brvarsh wrote:This 72 whore concept I never understood - This means after they die there is something that goes to heaven or dozakh and this if not the body must be the soul - the aatma. If they recognize the concept of Aatma and the pleasure it can attain due to the karm they did on Earth and have pleasure with 72 whores I am sure the same aatma could also take rebirth. These pigs should be taught this basic connection.
For many Muslims especially in Pakistan and Saudi Aatma and body as we understand are not different. Thats why burning to death someone is equivalent to punishment of Hell. many Saudi Pakistani Madrasas scare stuedents saying if you are not a good muslim a snake will come to your graveyard where you lie and break your Bones etc.
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After TOI, Firstpost which has come out with below. This could easily have been passed for a Pakistani Daily Article

Not posting link as don't want to give them hits.

Kashmir: After Abu Dujana's encounter, security forces resorted to 'targetted' civilian firing
Srinagar: Twenty-seven-year-old Firdous Ahmad Khan returned home around the time Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) commander Abu Dujana was trapped in a house, barely a few kilometres from his Begam Bagh village in Pulwama. Firdous had travelled hundreds of kilometres from Jammu, where he would often go to sell vegetables.

Early next morning, he went out to water his paddy fields close by, where Dujana was trapped and engaged in a gun battle with the security forces. He saw that the roads leading to his house were sealed by a heavy deployment of forces. A security cordon had been laid down in the surrounding areas since 10:45 pm on Monday.

Screengrab of Abu Dujana. CNN-IBN Screengrab of Abu Dujana. CNN-IBN
Unaware of the ongoing encounter operation, Firdous died within few hours of leaving his house as a gun battle ensued between the forces and the holed-up militants. While the police claim that Firdous had died because he was caught in the crossfire, his family and the local villagers deny those claims. His family members say that Firdous was targetted by the forces and had received a bullet to his hip. He died while being shifted to a hospital in Pulwama.

Firdous's death left his family in a state of deep remorse. His pregnant wife wailed over his body draped in a shroud before his burial and had to be admitted to the hospital after she developed pregnancy-related complications. She now has to take care of their one-year-old daughter and remains in a state of pathos.

On a grille in front of his house, a banner of many slain militants – including Hizbul Mujahideen commander Burhan Muzafar Wani – could be seen. Mohammad Shaban Khan, his father, wept as he blamed himself for his son's death. "My son had come home only yesterday from Jammu and I only told him to go to the field and water the paddy," he rued, as he welled up.

Firdous's cousin, Raja Maqbool, said that he had received a bullet to the hip at around 10:30 am on Tuesday and was shifted to the Pulwama hospital, but had died on the way.

The police statement issued after Dujana's death, however, said that Firdous was injured near the encounter site during the crossfire and was shifted to the hospital, where he succumbed to his injuries. According to the police, the encounter had taken place between Dujana and his associate and a joint party of Pulwama Police, 55 Rashtriya Rifles, 182 and 183 Battalion of the CRPF.

"At some places, miscreants tried to create disturbances by pelting stones in Pulwama and the adjoining areas. While dealing with the situation, 10 persons were injured," the police said.

The locals, however, said that the government forces had evacuated the people from the area before the gunfight. Maqbool said the family had received information about the bullet injury to Firdous only after a while. He said that he was targetted and that the doctors had declared him brought dead.

In the adjoining villages of Harkipora, people said that the forces had resorted to indiscriminate firing, that had left scores injured. In Narbal area, Ali Mohammad Wani, a baker, showed the bullets holes left on the walls of his shop. "When the forces were moving out after the encounter was over, they fired indiscriminately and we were terrified," he said.

Sakina Banoo, a 30-year-old woman from Narbal, was among the at least 10 injured in the firing by security forces in the village after the encounter on Tuesday. Sakina’s mother, Rashida Banoo, said that she had gone to a nearby village, where she worked as an Anganwadi teacher when she was fired upon. A bullet had pierced her leg and she was immediately shifted to a hospital in Srinagar.

A local youth, Muzafar Ahmad Khan, said that after Sakina was injured she was rushed by him and some other villagers to the hospital. "The bullet had ripped through her leg. The doctors at Pulwama hospital advised us to shift her to the hospital in Srinagar," he said. He said that the forces also used pellets, besides bullets, to carry out the targetted attacks on people.

Another resident, Ali Mohammad Khan, said that many were surprised when the forces fired indiscriminately upon people. "Our village is many kilometres away from Hakripora, where the encounter took place... they targetted us as well," said the elderly Khan.


Published Date: Aug 03, 2017 02:04 pm | Updated Date: Aug 03, 2017 02:04 pm
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It is a grey area. I am totally not OK with Toilet article. Toilet tried to make a hero out of the terrorist when there could be other interpretations (such as fear of torture or being forced to rat out his fellow terrorists or ISI killing his family if he was caught alive, etc), which is not acceptable as it went beyond balancing freedom of expression and being sensible.

Firstpost article is disgusting because there is no independent research. The correspondent did not do his homework to find out the area where he was shot, etc., and whether it was closer to encounter site or his agriculture farm, etc. It is very likely that this fellow got carried away and joined a mob that hurled stones at security and was injured mortally in the process.

On the other hand there is a remote possibility that some security personnel might have committed acts beyond their brief, in which case, it is the duty of the press to expose them. Firstpost did not do it, as they didnt do any independent investigation - just publihsed a one sided story based on what the villagers say. The villagers are not going to admit to throwing stones in aid of terrorists or knowingly giving shelter to them.

The only way to drive sense into these media outlets is to mock them for not doing necessary research required of their work but indulging in irresponsible sensational reporting. Just blindly denouncing them without explaining it wouldnt help as they will not know what their wrong is. Our press is afterall our countrymen and like most of our country men and women, they lack professionalism. We need to help drive some common sense and professionalism into them.
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brvarsh wrote:This 72 whore concept I never understood - This means after they die there is something that goes to heaven or dozakh and this if not the body must be the soul - the aatma. If they recognize the concept of Aatma and the pleasure it can attain due to the karm they did on Earth and have pleasure with 72 whores I am sure the same aatma could also take rebirth. These pigs should be taught this basic connection.
The concept of _eternal_ heaven and hell is very fundamental to all abrahamic religions. While they agree to the concept of a soul, they will not agree to rebirth as heaven and hell are eternal. That is why they fear so much about rotting in hell for eternity! What a demonic terrifying concept!
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Unaware of the ongoing encounter operation, Firdous died within few hours of leaving his house as a gun battle ensued between the forces and the holed-up militants. While the police claim that Firdous had died because he was caught in the crossfire, his family and the local villagers deny those claims. His family members say that Firdous was targetted by the forces and had received a bullet to his hip. He died while being shifted to a hospital in Pulwama.
^^ Sure....everyone always seems to be sitting in their houses when evil forces fired through windows or were innocently watching from a terrace when a bullet hit them( not just in J&K but in any riot in India)
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schinnas wrote: The only way to drive sense into these media outlets is to mock them for not doing necessary research required of their work but indulging in irresponsible sensational reporting. Just blindly denouncing them without explaining it wouldnt help as they will not know what their wrong is. Our press is afterall our countrymen and like most of our country men and women, they lack professionalism. We need to help drive some common sense and professionalism into them.
Couldn't agree more. Unfortunately, most of us rebut non researched posts/articles with equally non researched and emotional comments. Hardly an effective way to get one's point across. Even my earlier post was guilty of not following this.
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schinnas wrote:It is a grey area. I am totally not OK with Toilet article. Toilet tried to make a hero out of the terrorist when there could be other interpretations (such as fear of torture or being forced to rat out his fellow terrorists or ISI killing his family if he was caught alive, etc), which is not acceptable as it went beyond balancing freedom of expression and being sensible.

Firstpost article is disgusting because there is no independent research. The correspondent did not do his homework to find out the area where he was shot, etc., and whether it was closer to encounter site or his agriculture farm, etc. It is very likely that this fellow got carried away and joined a mob that hurled stones at security and was injured mortally in the process.

On the other hand there is a remote possibility that some security personnel might have committed acts beyond their brief, in which case, it is the duty of the press to expose them. Firstpost did not do it, as they didnt do any independent investigation - just publihsed a one sided story based on what the villagers say. The villagers are not going to admit to throwing stones in aid of terrorists or knowingly giving shelter to them.
Every statement by the Army or Police is qualified by 'alledged' or 'claimed' and usually followed by a disclaimer stating that 'but the villagers said that the Army was lying' or something to that effect, whereas the villagers are quoted verbatim. Even if the media does not want to support national interests, the least that can be expected with a view to objectivity and fairness is that they follow up the villagers statement with something like 'the army/government/police state that the villagers often make false accusations with a view to covering their complicity and creating propaganda and sympathy for the separatist cause'.
schinnas wrote: The only way to drive sense into these media outlets is to mock them for not doing necessary research required of their work but indulging in irresponsible sensational reporting. Just blindly denouncing them without explaining it wouldnt help as they will not know what their wrong is. Our press is afterall our countrymen and like most of our country men and women, they lack professionalism. We need to help drive some common sense and professionalism into them.
Problem is that you can wake up people who are sleeping but not those who are merely pretending to sleep.
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Gaur wrote:
schinnas wrote: The only way to drive sense into these media outlets is to mock them for not doing necessary research required of their work but indulging in irresponsible sensational reporting. Just blindly denouncing them without explaining it wouldnt help as they will not know what their wrong is. Our press is afterall our countrymen and like most of our country men and women, they lack professionalism. We need to help drive some common sense and professionalism into them.
Couldn't agree more. Unfortunately, most of us rebut non researched posts/articles with equally non researched and emotional comments. Hardly an effective way to get one's point across. Even my earlier post was guilty of not following this.
Another way is counter their FUD with own FUD in typical psyops mode. It's a game 2 can play and with SM anybody can play it as there is no more centralized control on narrative. Don't mock the messenger (DDM) directly but hit them at the credibility of their sources, their laziness and lack of research, the scum they hobnob with, rinse & repeat.
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brvarsh wrote:This 72 whore concept I never understood - This means after they die there is something that goes to heaven or dozakh and this if not the body must be the soul - the aatma. If they recognize the concept of Aatma and the pleasure it can attain due to the karm they did on Earth and have pleasure with 72 whores I am sure the same aatma could also take rebirth. These pigs should be taught this basic connection.

Many susai bum ers in philasthine have worn a protective chaddi. One failed fellow spilled the beans
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brvarsh wrote:This 72 whore concept I never understood - This means after they die there is something that goes to heaven or dozakh and this if not the body must be the soul - the aatma. If they recognize the concept of Aatma and the pleasure it can attain due to the karm they did on Earth and have pleasure with 72 whores I am sure the same aatma could also take rebirth. These pigs should be taught this basic connection.
Why you want to teach them? Just eliminate them. When they reach their promised land, they will realised they were short changed. Instead of 72 virgins, they got 72 old, toothless, Virginians :)
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http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.co ... h-earlier/
Syed Ata Hasnain
There is no military solution in J&K, separatist finances should have been targeted much earlier
The most ineffective way of fighting your adversary in a hybrid conflict, like the one in Jammu & Kashmir, is to fight it only through the military route. This mostly ensures that you restore temporary order, but mayhem will soon return and often in your own presence.
The scope of hybrid conflict extends to multiple domains. Violence at different levels and different locations keeps the conflict relevant and visible while an adversary delves into other domains silently and effectively. Among these domains are promotion of radical ideology, creation of intense alienation, keeping the organs of government on tenterhooks and incapable of governing, intimidation of government agencies, media and private citizens, gun running and narcotics to sustain finances, and lastly and perhaps most importantly maintaining financial conduits for the unimpeded flow of money into the conflict system.
The invisible elements of hybrid conflict are far more dangerous than the seemingly more potent but largely visible elements such as cannon fodder terrorists. A common question which even some intellectuals ask me is – “why despite killing so many terrorists and losing so many soldiers, is little headway being made in J&K?” This is because, while keeping the army and police engaged in the fight against terrorists and stone throwers, there have been a range of activities taking place under the sponsorship and patronage of a host of other people.
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https://twitter.com/FuryBlazing/status/ ... 0610563072
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Top #Lashkar_e_Toiba operative Ayoub Lelhar killed in encounter with Indian forces #Pulwama #Kashmir
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http://m.timesofindia.com/india/5-terro ... 957559.cms

5 terrorists killed in Kashmir's Machil sector after infiltration bid

NEW DELHI: Five terrorists were killed as security forces successfully foiled an infiltration bid along the Line of Control (LoC) in Machil sector of north Kashmir's Kupwara district on Monday.
Troops monitoring the area noticed suspicious movement along the LoC and immediately challenged the intruders. Five terrorists were shot down in the ensuing gunbattle.
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sum wrote:These must be the CAT( Concealed Anti-Terrorist) elements which are mentioned in many reports. Wonder if they are Ikhwanis or SF personnel:
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sum wrote:X-post:
sum wrote:These must be the CAT( Concealed Anti-Terrorist) elements which are mentioned in many reports. Wonder if they are Ikhwanis or SF personnel:
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J&K: Stone-pelters help cornered terrorist Zakir Musa flee
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SRINAGAR: Intense clashes erupted after Zakir Musa and his aide were reportedly trapped in a residential house at Noorpora , his native village in Tral on Friday evening.
However, the stone pelting stopped after few hours and there was no firing from the house where Zakir Musa and his aide was reportedly holed-up. The security forces however, had cordoned off four villages including Peer Mohalla, Shah Mohalla, Daggarpora and Noorpora villages to prevent the exit of the militants trapped in Noorpora village
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.An another police source said, that the security forces were suspecting presence of at least three militants including Ansar Ghazwat-ul-Hind chief Zakir Musa.
According to a police official, the forces including 42RR, 130 CRPF and SOG Awantipora laid siege to Noorpora- the native village of Musa - and launched searches. He said during search operation, the locals pelted stone on forces men and they were dealt with teargas shelling. Despite clashes, the search operation continued in the area.But the clashes ceased after some time and stone pelters dispersed without further disturbing the anti-terror forces, the police sources said.
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http://www.dailyexcelsior.com/let-milit ... ed-sopore/

LeT militant arrested in Sopore

Srinagar, Aug 10: Security forces today arrested a Lashkar-e-Toiba militant from Sopore area of North Kashmir and recovered a pistol and two grenades from his possession while normal life was affected in South Kashmir’s Pulwama district due to shut down.
Police said they along with 52 Rashtriya Rifles (RR) of Army and 177 battalion of CRPF established a naka on Seer Amargarh Road near Railway Crossing Seer Sopore after inputs about the militant movement. “During Naka checking, one suspected person jumped the Naka and fled to a nearby orchard. The area was cordoned off by the police and security forces and the suspected person was apprehended. During the search his identity was revealed as Ishfaq Ahmad Kanna son of Mohammad Shafi Kanna of Jamia-Qadeem Sopore district Baramulla, who recently joined LeT outfit”, police said.
One pistol, one magazine, five rounds and two UBGL grenades were recovered from him.
Police said that he was part of Lashkar module, three members of which were killed last week at Jamia Mohalla Amargarh Sopore. “Before joining LeT outfit, he worked as an active recruiter/OGW for LeT outfit in Sopore and other areas of North Kashmir”, said police adding that he was involved in a grenade throwing case on Police Station Sopore.
In the meantime, normal life remained paralysed today in South Kashmir district of Pulwama, where three militants of Zakir Musa group were killed in an encounter by security forces. A civilian was also killed when security forces fired pellets to disperse demonstrators near the encounter site.
The mobile service also remained suspended in the district for the second day today to prevent spread of rumours on social media. The District Magistrate (DM), Pulwama had ordered closure of all educational institutions as precautionary measure
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http://m.timesofindia.com/india/jk-enco ... 035258.cms

Shopian encounter: One jawan martyred, 4 others injured; gunfight underway


NEW DELHI: A soldier was martyred and four others were injured in an encounter in Awneera village of south Kashmir's Shopian district, an official said on Saturday.
"A soldier was martyred and four others were injured in a gunfight in Zainpora area of Awneera village," a senior police official said.
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Pulwama encounter: Top LeT terrorist Ayub Lelhari gunned down

NEW DELHI: : One Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) terrorist was gunned down in an encounter with security forces on Wednesday in Banderpora village of Jammu and Kashmir's Pulwama, police said.
"Ayub Lelhari District Commander LeT killed in Pulwama. Yet another success in the fight against militancy," the state police said on its Twitter handle.
Giving details of the gunfight, police said a 'naka' (check post) was set up in Banderpora (Koil) village jointly by Rashtriya Rifles, state police and CRPF after receiving information about the movement of the LeT district commander in the area.
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Kashmir encounter: JeM unleashes terror in Pulwama; eight security personnel, three militants die in gunfight
The fidayeen attack carried out by militant outfit Jaish-e-Muhammad (JeM) according to a local news agency, has left 11 people dead, including four CRPF soldiers, four Jammu and Kashmir Kashmir policemen and three militants.
Condolences to the family of the bravehearts
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Are there statistics on men down inspite of BPJs? and what is different in this operation that they sustained so many casualties.
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At the cost of being repetitious, this low intensity war on us will continue till there is a price to be paid by Pakistani Generals. Why are we fighting them on our soil? When will we take the war to them? Heavens know, Pakistan is a weak state and a weak nation, if only we arm insurgents operating in Pakistan, there is no limit to how much we can hurt them. Killing a few Pak mil at the border simply does not count in the minds that are doing the planning for such attacks.

The price that we can make PakMil pay is not limited to blood, but can also be political, or economic. For instance, declare Pakistan as a terrorist sponsor state and impose sanctions on any company that does business with any branch of PakMil.

A high profile, public strike on a military target will humiliate the PakMil no end and put paid to the political position they occupy in the minds of the Pakistani public. If they cant even protect themselves, how will they protect the general civilian public?

A high profile attack on a Pak Navy vessel on the open seas will achieve the same effect, also netting us Pak Mil hostages.

A (deniable) campaign of sabotage aimed at Pak electricity generation capacity can also be a punishment strategy.

I am afraid, we are just not using the spectrum of capabilities that are available to us, and limiting ourselves to pinpricks that PakMil easily brushes off.
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vasu raya wrote:Are there statistics on men down inspite of BPJs? and what is different in this operation that they sustained so many casualties.
If they infiltrate and attack residential area of a barracks, they are bound to find a few jawans.. Afterall, jawans dont carry weapons or wear protective gear all the time!

A couple of days back, there was news of a high alert being declared because we had intelligence that Masood Azhar had visited the LoC. I wonder if we should have initiated a spoiler operation then and there.. Issuing alerts does not serve the purpose against suicide attacks. Jihadi terrorists are bound to find a soft target.
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^^^
The police lines were evacuated early on, not sure how many got caught without their weapons, though 2 CRPF jawans died due to an IED blast while defusing one on a terrorists body per news reports

the BPJs related question was a long pending one and the terrorists attention is now on the police forces
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One soldier KIA in surgical strike in Myanmar as per tweets
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I saw one soldier injured, you able to find that tweet?
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Sorry, saw it linked elsewhere which mentioned that seriously injured passed away.

On mobile and so unable to quote. Wonder if we will ever get official confirmation
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sum wrote:One soldier KIA in surgical strike in Myanmar as per tweets
tweets by whom ?

very unlikely.
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here is what I found, none from the usual sources though

https://www.outlookindia.com/website/st ... -ar/301219
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