Aircraft Recognition

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby dinesha » 07 Oct 2010 12:46

S100B Argus AWACS

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby shiv » 07 Oct 2010 14:01

Kersi D wrote:
Me thinks that the Precival Provost became the BAC 167 Strikemaster


IIRC the Strikemaster served with the Sri Lankan Air Force in the cool days before the LTTE issue really took of.

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby shiv » 07 Oct 2010 18:49

I can positively identify only a few of the helos below

Bell 206 Jetranger
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Bell 407
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Bell 412
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Bell 430
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HAL Dhruv
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Agusta Bell 139
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Eurocopter Dauphin
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Eurocopter BK 117 (EC 145 is similar)
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Agusta A 109
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Mitsubishi MH 2000
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PZL W3 (Poland)
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Kamov Ka-60
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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby Kersi D » 07 Oct 2010 23:46

My favourite amongst the heavies are

Sikosrsky S 54 Skycrane. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-64_Skycrane

and

Mil Mi 12, NATO codename 'Homer'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_V-12

and of course

Mil M1 26 NATO codename 'Halo'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-26


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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby nachiket » 08 Oct 2010 03:54

Another "Heavy". This one is my favorite. The Mi-26 of course trumps it in size and power, but it has got to be one of the meanest looking helicopters around.

The CH-53E Super Stallion

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby Victor » 08 Oct 2010 07:22

nikhil_p wrote:The Percival Jet Prevost...strikingly similar to the HAL Kiran. In fact, I remember reading a book where it was mentioned that the design was bought from Precival. Guru log please confirm...
I remember thinking the same thing many moons ago but none of the sources I had in those days, including the Observer's Book of Aircraft or Jane's said anything about the Kiran being even influenced by the Jet Provost, let alone being a "bought" design which would have been fairly open info. Even today, no connection is made in Wikipedia or any other source all of which point to the Kiran being an Indian design which just happens to look like the Jet Provost.

The Jet Provost was the jet upgrade of the propeller-powered Percival Provost.

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby shiv » 08 Oct 2010 07:56

Victor wrote:
nikhil_p wrote:The Percival Jet Prevost...strikingly similar to the HAL Kiran. In fact, I remember reading a book where it was mentioned that the design was bought from Precival. Guru log please confirm...
I remember thinking the same thing many moons ago but none of the sources I had in those days, including the Observer's Book of Aircraft or Jane's said anything about the Kiran being even influenced by the Jet Provost, let alone being a "bought" design which would have been fairly open info. Even today, no connection is made in Wikipedia or any other source all of which point to the Kiran being an Indian design which just happens to look like the Jet Provost.

The Jet Provost was the jet upgrade of the propeller-powered Percival Provost.


Victor - the other funny thing is that the tailpipe of a lot of jet trainers look similar - I will try and put up pics. The shape is shared by more than just the Provost and Kiran

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby Suresh S » 08 Oct 2010 07:59

nice thread Dr shiv, appreciate it

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby shiv » 08 Oct 2010 08:39

Here are two more trainers that seem to follow the broad design features of the Kiran and Provost.

Canadair CL 41
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Lockheed T 33
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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby shiv » 08 Oct 2010 08:42

Look at the tailpipes of the Kiran, Chinese K8 and Czech L-59. Also see the Provost


Kiran
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K-8
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L-59
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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby Victor » 08 Oct 2010 11:39

shiv wrote:Here are two more trainers that seem to follow the broad design features of the Kiran and Provost.

When one designs a side-by-side jet trainer that has roughly the same handling qualities as all the other jet trainers of the time, it is natural to arrive at a similar configuration. Here is another one:

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Cessna T-37

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby neerajb » 09 Oct 2010 01:01

IAF Iskra

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Cheers....

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby Anoop. A. » 09 Oct 2010 01:57

nachiket wrote:Another "Heavy". This one is my favorite. The Mi-26 of course trumps it in size and power, but it has got to be one of the meanest looking helicopters around.

The CH-53E Super Stallion


No wonder CH 53 was used as a DECEPTICON charecter in the Transformer Movies...

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby Bala Vignesh » 09 Oct 2010 09:51

shiv wrote:Kamov Ka-60
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Is it just me or does the kamov Ka 60 look a lot like UH60 Black Hawk in the frontal aspects??

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby shiv » 09 Oct 2010 15:15

Bala Vignesh wrote:
shiv wrote:Kamov Ka-60
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Is it just me or does the kamov Ka 60 look a lot like UH60 Black Hawk in the frontal aspects??


I thought it looks similar to this (Eurocopte Dauphin)
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This Agusta Bell helo looks like the Blackhawk in shape (not in color of course) but has anyone seen a Blackhawk without Camo

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Blackhawk
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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby atreya » 09 Oct 2010 17:40

I remember reading somewhere that the Fenestron rotor is a registered trademark of Eurocopter. Kamov is then paying some premium for using the design on its chopper?

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby shiv » 10 Oct 2010 07:04

In the news- NDA to get Super "Demona" (sic) aircraft
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/news ... wsid=13564
The country's tri-services military training institute, National Defence Academy (NDA) at Khadakwasla will soon get a Super Demona aircraft for training air force cadets, an official said here Friday


Super Dimona motor glider
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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby ArmenT » 10 Oct 2010 10:59

@shiv: The BK 117 picture above looks like a plastic model photographed with macro zoom.

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby shiv » 10 Oct 2010 11:25

ArmenT wrote:@shiv: The BK 117 picture above looks like a plastic model photographed with macro zoom.


It's possible ArmenT - but I select the photos based on size of image from a page full of thumbnails produced by an image search. The model, if it is one is a close enough approximation. I am looking at so many images while trying to add to this thread that there may be errors here and there hopefully not too major.

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby shiv » 10 Oct 2010 11:56

Profusion of identification confusion with Agusta Westland

AW 109
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AW 119
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AW 129
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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby shiv » 10 Oct 2010 13:15

More confusion for me and others like me
AW129
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Eurocopter Tiger
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AH 64 Apache
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Denel Rooivalk
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HAL LCH
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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby Pratik_S » 10 Oct 2010 18:28

AW129 and Eurocopter Tigre indeed look very similar. I can't differentiate between them. Now other attack helos are quite easy to identify. Rooivalk looks fatter from nose to tail angle (the above image), Apache is unmistakable because of its popularity, legacy, cockpit windows and cruel ugly looks, LCH is most easy to identify because of its simple and clean design.

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby shiv » 10 Oct 2010 19:22

For the newbies: identify the missile

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby Bala Vignesh » 10 Oct 2010 20:56

kh29t??? Shooting blind here...

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby Kersi D » 10 Oct 2010 21:06

shiv wrote:For the newbies: identify the missile

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Matra Magic

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P.S. Jaduuu

On second thoughts it is R 60 !!

On third thoughts or first wishful thinking it should have been the Astra

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby nachiket » 10 Oct 2010 23:19

Bala Vignesh wrote:kh29t??? Shooting blind here...

It is a Kh-29.

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby saip » 11 Oct 2010 05:47

ot. Just came back from fleet week at San Francisco. Anyone
else there?

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby shiv » 11 Oct 2010 06:39

For the buffs: I identify these aircraft and say what is the identifying feature. "It just looks like xyz to me" is also a valid answer. You need not know why Aishwarya Rai looks like she does as long as you can identify her.
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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby Anoop. A. » 11 Oct 2010 07:20

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Mig 29 flying with F-15s.

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2 Mig 29s with F-16.
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Mig 25
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F-15(US) & Mirage 200(IAF) in INDIA. Dont remember the name or year of the exersice.
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SU 27 & SU 33
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SU 27 of Russian Aerobatic Team.
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F-18
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F-18 A/B refuelling in probe/drouge mode.
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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby Shameek » 11 Oct 2010 07:35

shiv wrote:For the buffs: I identify these aircraft and say what is the identifying feature. "It just looks like xyz to me" is also a valid answer. You need not know why Aishwarya Rai looks like she does as long as you can identify her.


1. F-15E Strike Eagle, MiG 29, F-15C - Strike Eagle has the thicker fuselage with conformal tanks.
2. F 16 and 2 MiG 29 - Twin engine and single engine
3. MiG 25 - Shape of wings and intakes
4. F 15 E
5. F 15C and Mirage 2000
6. Su 27 and Su 27 UB - Single and double seat - no canards - could be Su 30K
7. Su 27
8. F 18 Hornet
9. F 18 Super Hornet - shape of intakes rectangular v/s circular. Can't see it well so may be wrong.
10 and 11. F 14 Tomcat - Swing wing, twin tail, two seater.

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby Anoop. A. » 11 Oct 2010 07:37

shiv wrote:For the buffs: I identify these aircraft and say what is the identifying feature. "It just looks like xyz to me" is also a valid answer. You need not know why Aishwarya Rai looks like she does as long as you can identify her.


Its just like you said - i know that its aishwarya rai - dont really go for why's - works for me :wink:

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby Pratik_S » 11 Oct 2010 17:41

Anoop. A. wrote:5.
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F-15(US) & Mirage 200(IAF) in INDIA. Dont remember the name or year of the exersice.
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SU 27 & SU 33

5. Its during Cope India 2004 cuz in 2006 USAF only brought their F-16s !
6. Su-27 in back and Su-30K in front.

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby Mihir » 11 Oct 2010 20:17

shiv wrote:For the buffs: I identify these aircraft and say what is the identifying feature. "It just looks like xyz to me" is also a valid answer. You need not know why Aishwarya Rai looks like she does as long as you can identify her.

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IIRC, the F-18 doesn't have a huge pitot tube sticking out of its nose. This is a YF-17 Cobra.

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby nachiket » 11 Oct 2010 21:01

Mihir, good catch but that is apparently an F-18 not a YF-17. It was modified by NASA to test the Active Aeroelastic Wing. You can see the video here:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... t_test.ogg

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby Mihir » 12 Oct 2010 19:34

Ah yes... I completely forgot about the X-53!

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby vivekmehta » 12 Oct 2010 19:59

Pratik Sawerdekar wrote:
Anoop. A. wrote:6.
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SU 27 & SU 33


6. Su-27 in back and Su-30K in front.



sir i am still not able to get the difference between two from this pic . can some guru help me on this. though i am able to understand differences in diff pics. but not getting any clue from this pic.

thanks

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby nachiket » 12 Oct 2010 20:04

Vivek, the Su-30K is basically a modified Su-27UB 2 seat trainer. There is little external difference between the Su-27UB and Su-30K. In the above pic, the aircraft in front is a 2 seater while the one behind is a single seater.

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby shiv » 12 Oct 2010 20:14

vivekmehta wrote:6.
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6. Su-27 in back and Su-30K in front.


sir i am still not able to get the difference between two from this pic . can some guru help me on this. though i am able to understand differences in diff pics. but not getting any clue from this pic.

thanks



Take the Su 30 (in front) in your hand and give it a tight slap on its neck (behind the cockpit). The neck will then bend down get an Su 27.

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Re: Aircraft Recognition

Postby kmc_chacko » 12 Oct 2010 21:44

shiv wrote:
vivekmehta wrote:6.
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6. Su-27 in back and Su-30K in front.


sir i am still not able to get the difference between two from this pic . can some guru help me on this. though i am able to understand differences in diff pics. but not getting any clue from this pic.

thanks



Take the Su 30 (in front) in your hand and give it a tight slap on its neck (behind the cockpit). The neck will then bend down get an Su 27.



ha ha . . .

Russian's wasted so much money & time for upgrading Su 27 simply they should have slapped all the su 27


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