Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

The Military Issues & History Forum is a venue to discuss issues relating to the military aspects of the Indian Armed Forces, whether the past, present or future. We request members to kindly stay within the mandate of this forum and keep their exchanges of views, on a civilised level, however vehemently any disagreement may be felt. All feedback regarding forum usage may be sent to the moderators using the Feedback Form or by clicking the Report Post Icon in any objectionable post for proper action. Please note that the views expressed by the Members and Moderators on these discussion boards are that of the individuals only and do not reflect the official policy or view of the Bharat-Rakshak.com Website. Copyright Violation is strictly prohibited and may result in revocation of your posting rights - please read the FAQ for full details. Users must also abide by the Forum Guidelines at all times.
shiv
BRF Oldie
Posts: 34982
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30
Location: Pindliyon ka Gooda

Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby shiv » 04 Nov 2010 08:15

The Kaveri has successfully been tested on its flying test bed in Russia.

History of sorts has been made because this is the first time an Indian engine has powered any aircraft and marks the beginning of a new era.

An early Happy Diwali folks.

Raveen
BRFite
Posts: 835
Joined: 18 Jun 2008 00:51
Location: 1/2 way between the gutter and the stars
Contact:

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby Raveen » 04 Nov 2010 08:19

Link please sir, or is thie chai wala news with ladoo?

Cybaru
BRF Oldie
Posts: 2620
Joined: 12 Jun 2000 11:31
Contact:

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby Cybaru » 04 Nov 2010 08:21

I thought, it has flown before, but it had vibration issues.

Cain Marko
BRF Oldie
Posts: 4621
Joined: 26 Jun 2005 10:26

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby Cain Marko » 04 Nov 2010 08:27

Great news this! Can't wait to get the details!

CM.

shiv
BRF Oldie
Posts: 34982
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30
Location: Pindliyon ka Gooda

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby shiv » 04 Nov 2010 08:28

Raveen wrote:Link please sir, or is thie chai wala news with ladoo?


No link yet. "A little birdie". A reliable birdie. But it will appear in the news in due course.

Raveen
BRFite
Posts: 835
Joined: 18 Jun 2008 00:51
Location: 1/2 way between the gutter and the stars
Contact:

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby Raveen » 04 Nov 2010 08:30

shiv wrote:
Raveen wrote:Link please sir, or is thie chai wala news with ladoo?


No link yet. "A little birdie". A reliable birdie. But it will appear in the news in due course.


Ghee Shakkar in order sir!
Good job on getting hold of the reliable lil birdie :)

Cybaru
BRF Oldie
Posts: 2620
Joined: 12 Jun 2000 11:31
Contact:

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby Cybaru » 04 Nov 2010 08:31

So what's the difference between this flight and the earlier flight. Unless this the very first flight ?

Raveen
BRFite
Posts: 835
Joined: 18 Jun 2008 00:51
Location: 1/2 way between the gutter and the stars
Contact:

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby Raveen » 04 Nov 2010 08:33

Cybaru wrote:So what's the difference between this flight and the earlier flight. Unless this the very first flight ?


Success and failure? :P

Santosh
BRFite
Posts: 722
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 01:55

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby Santosh » 04 Nov 2010 08:38

This is awesome news, eagerly awaiting details. Kaveri is up in the air, Tejas IOC in Dec 2010 and Tejas wing has been certified by the BR phorum :rotfl: , Tejas program is firing on all cylinders. Happy Diwali.

ArmenT
BR Mainsite Crew
Posts: 4239
Joined: 10 Sep 2007 05:57
Location: Loud, Proud, Ugly American

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby ArmenT » 04 Nov 2010 08:39

shiv wrote:
Raveen wrote:Link please sir, or is thie chai wala news with ladoo?


No link yet. "A little birdie". A reliable birdie. But it will appear in the news in due course.

A little birdie flying on the lawns of your famous golf course, I presume.

shiv
BRF Oldie
Posts: 34982
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30
Location: Pindliyon ka Gooda

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby shiv » 04 Nov 2010 08:46

Cybaru wrote:So what's the difference between this flight and the earlier flight. Unless this the very first flight ?


This is the first flight and it was termed "successful"

One comment related to this is that having our own engine - assuming it continues to perform well as it did over the remaining series of tests means that it puts India is a totally new and much stronger footing in this world of extortionate and small clique of engine manufacturers.

Obviously the engine works and is able to fly. There may still be a long road ahead but the light at the end of the tunnel has been spotted.

Vivek K
BRF Oldie
Posts: 2485
Joined: 15 Mar 2002 12:31

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby Vivek K » 04 Nov 2010 08:51

Great News Shiv saar! Finally!!! Great work GTRE. Hats off for taking our abuse and continuing to work hard.

koti
BRFite
Posts: 1119
Joined: 09 Jul 2009 22:06
Location: Hyderabad, India

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby koti » 04 Nov 2010 09:07

Great news sir.

It seems for the first time GTRE will be getting some pats from BR folks.

astal
BRFite
Posts: 165
Joined: 07 Jul 2005 03:06
Location: virtual back bench

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby astal » 04 Nov 2010 09:15

BRF and GTRE are on the same team! (Infact we are armchair designers or critics, while they walk the talk.) The forum laments their failures and rejoices at their successes. Unfortunately since engine design is a complex and closely guarded endeavour, successes are much harder to come by. Anyway step one complete.

Congratulations for an important milestone! I wish them luck for the challenges ahead.
Last edited by astal on 04 Nov 2010 09:25, edited 1 time in total.

nrshah
BRFite
Posts: 578
Joined: 10 Feb 2009 16:36

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby nrshah » 04 Nov 2010 09:19

Great news... Finally a word of congrats to GTRE and thanks to all those associated for making this nation stronger....

Adds a new option to BR JINGO VIMAN

Pratyush
BRF Oldie
Posts: 8308
Joined: 05 Mar 2010 15:13

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby Pratyush » 04 Nov 2010 09:24

The day is as great as teh day the LCA was first flown.

WOW.........................

Willy
BRFite
Posts: 283
Joined: 18 Jan 2005 01:58

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby Willy » 04 Nov 2010 09:37

India needs to have this engine power an aircraft. An AJT to start with would be great even if not the LCA immediately.

negi
BRF Oldie
Posts: 13112
Joined: 27 Jul 2006 17:51
Location: Ban se dar nahin lagta , chootiyon se lagta hai .

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby negi » 04 Nov 2010 09:37

Pah we always dance with lungi, this is time to dance nekkid. :eek: :mrgreen:

Shiv garu so when are we getting a Kaveri's weight of barfis or 'mysore-paak' ? :D

Austin
BRF Oldie
Posts: 23387
Joined: 23 Jul 2000 11:31

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby Austin » 04 Nov 2010 09:40

Vallah this is as good as it gets , Does this mean the Kaveri is now flight qualified to fly with Tejas ?

Gurneesh
BRFite
Posts: 465
Joined: 14 Feb 2010 21:21
Location: Troposphere

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby Gurneesh » 04 Nov 2010 09:42

Delighting News.

IIRC this is the first test flight with the kaveri actually replacing one of the plane's engines (and thus powering it), while earlier tests were with the Il running on it's own engines with this engine running while attached to a special fitment.

Could someone confirm the thrust ratings of this engine.

Sriman
BRFite
Posts: 1858
Joined: 02 Mar 2009 11:38
Location: Committee for the Promotion of Vice and the Prevention of Virtue

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby Sriman » 04 Nov 2010 09:49

Great news! Guess it was on the IL-76 flying test bed?

Willy
BRFite
Posts: 283
Joined: 18 Jan 2005 01:58

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby Willy » 04 Nov 2010 09:50

From a long term perspective GTRE needs a flying testbed of its own.

Actually the IAF was right in opposing the GTRE-Snecma tieup saying tht GTRE wouldn't learn anything from Snecma.One's on efforts in the long run will be more benificial

vina
BRF Oldie
Posts: 6046
Joined: 11 May 2005 06:56
Location: Doing Nijikaran, Udharikaran and Baazarikaran to Commies and Assorted Leftists

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby vina » 04 Nov 2010 09:55

As usual , I swoop in to "grab the credit" as I was the first guy to speculate that the GTRE folks had a working engine and even crossed swords with the Grand Mullah Al Enqyoob-ud-din-e-Gas-Turbine on this.

Subanallah!.

vina
BRF Oldie
Posts: 6046
Joined: 11 May 2005 06:56
Location: Doing Nijikaran, Udharikaran and Baazarikaran to Commies and Assorted Leftists

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby vina » 04 Nov 2010 10:03

Ah.. Now , lets wait. Soon Shiv Aroor will post a "scoop"/"first" that the Kaveri has flown and the the other Jarnailists will follow.

neerajb
BRFite
Posts: 831
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 14:18
Location: Delhi, India.

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby neerajb » 04 Nov 2010 10:04

Shiv saar great news! Did the birdie give any info about which version was tested K9/K10 ityaadi (already lots of confusion on this one) or was it Snecma/GTRE one?

Cheers....

Marut
BRFite
Posts: 623
Joined: 25 Oct 2009 23:05
Location: The Original West Coast!!

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby Marut » 04 Nov 2010 10:08

Finally after years & years of blood, sweat & tears, our baby has been successfully tested on its own steam :)

Hats off to GTRE folks for persevering when everyone pretty much gave up on them. All the tapasya has borne fruit now.

May this Diwali bring more light and shine for our Kaveri!

vera_k
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3175
Joined: 20 Nov 2006 13:45

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby vera_k » 04 Nov 2010 10:10

Nice! Now it's time to make some materials engineers offers they cannot refuse.

disha
BR Mainsite Crew
Posts: 7415
Joined: 03 Dec 2006 04:17
Location: gaganaviharin

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby disha » 04 Nov 2010 10:13

shiv wrote:
Raveen wrote:Link please sir, or is thie chai wala news with ladoo?


No link yet. "A little birdie". A reliable birdie. But it will appear in the news in due course.


Congrats GTRE. We can now have a Chota-LCA or Chota-NLCA to train the LCA pilot wannabes!!

BTW Saar, when you heard the news what did you do to the little birdie! :roll:

Sanku
BRF Oldie
Posts: 12526
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 15:57
Location: Naaahhhh

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby Sanku » 04 Nov 2010 10:21

Wonderful, most excellent, sadhu, sadhu....

yes yes yes...

Cybaru
BRF Oldie
Posts: 2620
Joined: 12 Jun 2000 11:31
Contact:

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby Cybaru » 04 Nov 2010 11:11

shiv wrote:
Cybaru wrote:So what's the difference between this flight and the earlier flight. Unless this the very first flight ?


This is the first flight and it was termed "successful"

One comment related to this is that having our own engine - assuming it continues to perform well as it did over the remaining series of tests means that it puts India is a totally new and much stronger footing in this world of extortionate and small clique of engine manufacturers.

Obviously the engine works and is able to fly. There may still be a long road ahead but the light at the end of the tunnel has been spotted.


Thanks for clarifying and sharing. Although, I am still confused, I am happy to hear something significant happened and it will probably clear up in a bit. Congrats all around! :)

Udayan pathak
BRFite -Trainee
Posts: 8
Joined: 01 Jul 2010 16:56

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby Udayan pathak » 04 Nov 2010 11:23

http://tarmak007.blogspot.com/2010/11/b ... -gift.html

Barely a month after the DRDO announced that the Tejas Mk-11 will powered by GE-414 power plant, there's some good news for the devotees of desi defence products. The Kaveri engine has finally passed the critical tests onboard IL-76 in Russia on November 3 crossing a major hurdle towards certification.

Russian sources confirmed to Tarmak007 late on Wednesday night that the tests results were extremely positive. "This is a huge sigh of relief for the Indian side as the platform had its share of problems earlier. We are waiting for the final trial parameters, but I can confirm to you that the Indian engine has finally proved all necessary test points. It's a huge technologocal breakthrough for India," a source tells.

DRDO officials are tight-lipped about the development and didn't want to comment on the historic achievement on the even of Diwali. A formal announcement is expected to be out today/soon/any moment from Delhi.

The Indian government had earlier this August had announced in Parliament that the Kaveri engine testing under simulated altitude and forward speed conditions were completed successfully in February 2010. “The Kaveri has been integrated with an Ilyushin Il-76 aircraft at Gromov Flight Research Institute in Moscow for ground and flight tests. The engine tests under simulated altitude and forward speed conditions conducted in February 2010 [were] successful. Another engine has been integrated with IL-76 aircraft at Gromov Flight Research Institute, Moscow for ground and flight test which is expected to complete by October 2010. These two major milestones would make the engine certified for flight operations," Defense Minister A.K. Antony had told the Upper House of the Parliament on August 25, 2010. He had also even spelt out the reasons for the delay, then.

Finally, GTRE scientists and engineers couldn't have asked for a better Diwali gift, considering the non-stop battering they received from all corners, for the inordinate delay in developing Kaveri for Tejas.

Pratyush
BRF Oldie
Posts: 8308
Joined: 05 Mar 2010 15:13

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby Pratyush » 04 Nov 2010 11:47

Well let me ask the first serious question on this thread.

How many more hours of flight testing will it need before it is certified for regular operations.

chackojoseph
BRF Oldie
Posts: 4297
Joined: 01 Mar 2010 22:42
Location: From Frontier India
Contact:

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby chackojoseph » 04 Nov 2010 12:32

Pratyush wrote:Well let me ask the first serious question on this thread.

How many more hours of flight testing will it need before it is certified for regular operations.


Once it finishes the IL-76 test (30 - 100 hours or so, depending upon the results), then it can be integrated into Tejas models. But, it has not undergone those many hours. Thats why folks are mum.

shanksinha
BRFite -Trainee
Posts: 98
Joined: 17 Aug 2009 16:48

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby shanksinha » 04 Nov 2010 12:41

This is a significant moment in Indian Aviation history, we now have our very own Rolls Royce Nene to build upon and only great things can follow. More power to GTRE boffins and thanks to the Gromov Flight Institute guys.

jamwal
BR Mainsite Crew
Posts: 5212
Joined: 19 Feb 2008 21:28
Location: Somewhere Else
Contact:

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby jamwal » 04 Nov 2010 12:42

Image

Willy
BRFite
Posts: 283
Joined: 18 Jan 2005 01:58

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby Willy » 04 Nov 2010 12:59

So does this have the single crystal's over which there was so much hoopla about???????

Philip
BRF Oldie
Posts: 21055
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30
Location: India

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby Philip » 04 Nov 2010 13:08

If accurate,then it is a great achievement.Congrats to all conmcerned.Earlier tests in past years were failures.However,what experts would wish is that such engine test-beds and supporting infrastructure are set up in India,specifically at HAL B'Lore,so that engine development can be faster.They would like to see the engines tested in an Indian environment (dust storms et al) which differs markedly from those in Russia.As many have said this is just the first step.There is a long regime of testing ahead ,integrated with an LCA prototype before we can safely assume that we have finally developed our own engine fit to be mass produced for combat aircraft.The development of the marine version must also be taken up simultaneously,as here is an opportunity where standardisation of engines can have a huge cost-effective benefit.A variety of surface vessels can use the engine from fast missile craft to destroyers and frigates,replacing the GE engines being used.

Gaur
Forum Moderator
Posts: 2009
Joined: 01 Feb 2009 23:19

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby Gaur » 04 Nov 2010 14:00

Wow! This is the most exciting news. Going for a lungi dance now. :D

PratikDas
BRFite
Posts: 1927
Joined: 06 Feb 2009 07:46
Contact:

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby PratikDas » 04 Nov 2010 14:24

Congratulations GTRE!

I'd absolutely love to see a photo of the Kaveri slung under the IL76 wing. A photo of the Kaveri in flight would be poster material :)

Congrats again, GTRE.

Dilbu
BRF Oldie
Posts: 6617
Joined: 07 Nov 2007 22:53
Location: Deep in the badlands of BRFATA

Re: Newsflash: Kaveri engine successfully test flown!

Postby Dilbu » 04 Nov 2010 14:48

Yes..... finally. :D


Return to “Military Issues & History Forum”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Balaji, dhyana, Vivek K and 73 guests