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Transport Aircraft for IAF

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Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Postby Rakesh » 22 Dec 2017 02:29

The Rolls Royce of transport aircraft in terms of sheer lift capability. She is a beast!

With last-minute approval, India set to snap up world’s last available C-17 Globemaster
https://theprint.in/2017/12/20/india-se ... obemaster/

Two years after special request made to hold aircraft, defence ministry committee clears signing of contract.

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Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Postby Rakesh » 22 Dec 2017 02:51

Indian Air Force Fleet Achieves 12,000 Hours, Commended for Outstanding Performance
http://www.aviation.ca/2017121922653/ne ... erformance

Boeing congratulates the Indian Air Force and 81st “Skylords” Squadron for the C-17 Globemaster III fleet achieving 12,000 flight hours since induction in 2014. The C-17 fleet is a vital part of the Indian Air Force strategic airlift capability, which has successfully conducted relief and humanitarian missions domestically and internationally. The Indian Air Force operates 10 C-17 strategic airlifters that Boeing delivered in 2014. Boeing works with the Indian Air Force to provide sustainment services and modernization of its C-17s that contribute to high mission capable rates.

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Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Postby Khalsa » 22 Dec 2017 02:59

Rakesh wrote:The Rolls Royce of transport aircraft in terms of sheer lift capability. She is a beast!

With last-minute approval, India set to snap up world’s last available C-17 Globemaster
https://theprint.in/2017/12/20/india-se ... obemaster/

Two years after special request made to hold aircraft, defence ministry committee clears signing of contract.

Thank god.
We were meant to grab the last 3 but got 1.
We must become a little more decisive.

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Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Postby Kartik » 22 Dec 2017 05:14

Rakesh wrote:Indian Air Force Fleet Achieves 12,000 Hours, Commended for Outstanding Performance
http://www.aviation.ca/2017121922653/ne ... erformance

Boeing congratulates the Indian Air Force and 81st “Skylords” Squadron for the C-17 Globemaster III fleet achieving 12,000 flight hours since induction in 2014. The C-17 fleet is a vital part of the Indian Air Force strategic airlift capability, which has successfully conducted relief and humanitarian missions domestically and internationally. The Indian Air Force operates 10 C-17 strategic airlifters that Boeing delivered in 2014. Boeing works with the Indian Air Force to provide sustainment services and modernization of its C-17s that contribute to high mission capable rates.


That's really quite some utilization for the fleet. Kudos to Boeing and to the IAF for having achieved such a large number of flight hours in under 3 years, that too with staggered deliveries of the C-17s.

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Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Postby Rishi_Tri » 22 Dec 2017 05:26

Rakesh wrote:The Rolls Royce of transport aircraft in terms of sheer lift capability. She is a beast!

With last-minute approval, India set to snap up world’s last available C-17 Globemaster
https://theprint.in/2017/12/20/india-se ... obemaster/

Two years after special request made to hold aircraft, defence ministry committee clears signing of contract.


Beast would be An 124.

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Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Postby chola » 22 Dec 2017 06:01

Rishi_Tri wrote:
Rakesh wrote:The Rolls Royce of transport aircraft in terms of sheer lift capability. She is a beast!

With last-minute approval, India set to snap up world’s last available C-17 Globemaster
https://theprint.in/2017/12/20/india-se ... obemaster/



Beast would be An 124.


The An-124 would be a beast to operate and fund. The cost to fly the thing makes it impractical 99.9% of the time. And the 0.01 percent of the time you need one, you just rent one.

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Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Postby Philip » 22 Dec 2017 17:30

So the white tail will nest in India.We have a great record of buying some systems last! Like Hawk AJTs, etc.The IAF/MOD's garbage van has also been sniffing dumpyards in Malaysia for MIG-29s,France for Jag's,Canada for old Sea Kings and now the search is on in the bazaars of the UKR and former Sov.bloc nations for legacy MI-35s, MI-8s whatever for the Afghans!We might as sell advertise ourselves as rag and bone peddlars!

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Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Postby deejay » 22 Dec 2017 19:06

Very astute observation. Boneyards maketh the Indian Military might. We have CAG to ensure frugality and censure expeditious purchase so the boneyard it is.

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Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Postby Manish_P » 22 Dec 2017 19:36

True. But in some cases we have been pretty quick too (admittedly reactionary, in some cases), in the glorious past. The Tu142, the T90, the Kilo class, the Folland Gnat, the Scorpène..

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Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Postby Khalsa » 23 Dec 2017 01:29

chola wrote:And the 0.01 percent of the time you need one, you just rent one.


Well captured saar.

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Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Postby chola » 23 Dec 2017 09:18

deejay wrote:Very astute observation. Boneyards maketh the Indian Military might. We have CAG to ensure frugality and censure expeditious purchase so the boneyard it is.


I wouldn’t categorize the C-17 as a boneyard pick-up! His the world’s best transport by a wide margin. The number of miles put up by the mere 10 we own proves it. The only reason it is out of production is because the USAF already has over 220.

In the C-17, we actually continue our tradition of flying some of the equipment around.

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Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Postby Singha » 23 Dec 2017 12:45

dont underestimate the power of DOMESTIC boneyards. that is how the P2 are able to quickly deliver tons of useful medium and low end stuff on short notice to their allies. and that is how, over a few months they can bring new units online for long deployments.

TSP for instance has got a lot of stuff from the boneyard at cheap prices - kills the yindu just the same.

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Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Postby Karthik S » 23 Dec 2017 14:13

Can we try to get 5 used C 17s from USAF to meet our initial 16 air-frames requirement.

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Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Postby Rakesh » 23 Dec 2017 20:15

^^^^ USAF C-17s are used extensively. Need to find airframes that have little use in them.

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Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Postby Rakesh » 23 Dec 2017 20:16

Rakesh wrote:With last-minute approval, India set to snap up world’s last available C-17 Globemaster
https://theprint.in/2017/12/20/india-se ... obemaster/

https://twitter.com/IndianDefenceRA/sta ... 9935384577 ---> DAC approves procurement of the last available C-17 transport aircraft in the Indian Air Force to make it a total fleet of 11.In picture, full fleet of No 81 Squadrons "Sky Lords".

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Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Postby Philip » 24 Dec 2017 17:27

We now will have to buy new IL-476/90s should we need extra heavylifters.Another opportunity lost when C-17s were available.
Talking about losing opportunities.I saw a titbit that the Dornier Seastar ,an amphib- a small bird, which was offered both to HAL and a pvt. party, has been snapped up by a Chinese co.! When Spicejet has just ordered 100 amphibs you can see the lost opportunity.In fact the Dornier co. could've been picked up by us instead RUAG did.The services continue to order more DO-228s by the way!

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Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Postby Indranil » 24 Dec 2017 18:19

The civil Dornier version has got DGCA certification.

Also Mahindra’s Aircan 8 and 10 have amphibious versions.


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