Bharat Rakshak Forum Announcement

Hello Everyone,

A warm welcome back to the Bharat Rakshak Forum.

Important Notice: Due to a corruption in the BR forum database we regret to announce that data records relating to some of our registered users have been lost. We estimate approx. 500 user details are deleted.

To ease the process of recreating the user IDs we request members that have previously posted on the BR forums to recognise and identify their posts, once the posts are identified please contact the BRF moderator team by emailing BRF Mod Team with your post details.

The mod team will be able to update your username, email etc. so that the user history can be maintained.

Unfortunately for members that have never posted or have had all their posts deleted i.e. users that have 0 posts, we will be unable to recreate your account hence we request that you re-register again.

We apologise for any inconvenience caused and thank you for your understanding.

Regards,
Seetal

Transport Aircraft for IAF

The Military Issues & History Forum is a venue to discuss issues relating to the military aspects of the Indian Armed Forces, whether the past, present or future. We request members to kindly stay within the mandate of this forum and keep their exchanges of views, on a civilised level, however vehemently any disagreement may be felt. All feedback regarding forum usage may be sent to the moderators using the Feedback Form or by clicking the Report Post Icon in any objectionable post for proper action. Please note that the views expressed by the Members and Moderators on these discussion boards are that of the individuals only and do not reflect the official policy or view of the Bharat-Rakshak.com Website. Copyright Violation is strictly prohibited and may result in revocation of your posting rights - please read the FAQ for full details. Users must also abide by the Forum Guidelines at all times.
Austin
BRF Oldie
Posts: 18092
Joined: 23 Jul 2000 11:31

Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Postby Austin » 20 Mar 2017 11:14

srai wrote:
Austin wrote:^^ I was thinking if we can cut a deal with Ukraine and build this at HAL as logical replacement for An-32 of IAF , Antonov needs customer and would be happy to part technology to make this in india.

Better to lump 54 Avro replacement with 100 An-32 replacement. Airbus CN-295 with TATA partnership is in the works to replace the Avros. More viable to continue CN-295 with more orders.


TATA wont be doing any thing more than Screwdriver Giri with these CN-295 , all they will do is assemble this in India.

Atleast with An-132 we might have a chance to get the design/tot and lic to build it in India.

Bheeshma
BRFite
Posts: 471
Joined: 15 Aug 2016 22:01

Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Postby Bheeshma » 20 Mar 2017 11:18

Why would Ukraine agree to such a deal ? If it goes to HAl then expect screwdriver giri again.

Indranil
Forum Moderator
Posts: 5085
Joined: 02 Apr 2010 01:21

Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Postby Indranil » 20 Mar 2017 11:27

How many will screwdriver An-132. It was brought to light by the Saudis financing it with Taqnia. Why would they let it go? Anyways, this is too close to the 295s. For the same reason, Il-114s don't make sense. HAL should try the medium 20-40 Ton freighters and RTAs.

srai
BRF Oldie
Posts: 2978
Joined: 23 Oct 2001 11:31

Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Postby srai » 20 Mar 2017 16:35

Austin wrote:...

Atleast with An-132 we might have a chance to get the design/tot and lic to build it in India.


Don't count on JVs too much. Look what has happened to the MTA.

putnanja
BRF Oldie
Posts: 4196
Joined: 26 Mar 2002 12:31
Location: searching for the next al-qaida #3

Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Postby putnanja » 20 Mar 2017 16:59

We still don't have the full ToT for SU-30MKIs or for T-90s. Its just a little more than screwdrivergiri. In fact, many learnings of Hawk were applied to LCA and now to HTT-40, like the processes and such, which means India at least gained something on the manufacturing side. Learnings for license building Russian items seems more like what not to do than what to do better.

Rakesh
Webmaster BR
Posts: 2784
Joined: 15 Jan 2004 12:31
Location: Planet Earth
Contact:

Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Postby Rakesh » 24 Mar 2017 23:06

Indian Air Force to acquire at least 60 Airbus C-295 transport aircraft
http://indianewengland.com/2017/03/indi ... -aircraft/

JTull
BRFite
Posts: 1853
Joined: 18 Jul 2001 11:31

Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Postby JTull » 24 Mar 2017 23:55


Austin
BRF Oldie
Posts: 18092
Joined: 23 Jul 2000 11:31

Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Postby Austin » 25 Mar 2017 00:03

Did C-295 compete with other types in its class to win out right or this was single vendor approach ? US had offered any options , I recollect ATR-72 was also offered.

Indranil
Forum Moderator
Posts: 5085
Joined: 02 Apr 2010 01:21

Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Postby Indranil » 25 Mar 2017 01:54

Main opponent was the C-27J Spartan. Proposals from Ilyushin and Antonov came and went.

ranjan.rao
BRFite
Posts: 354
Joined: 15 Aug 2016 01:21

Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Postby ranjan.rao » 25 Mar 2017 02:49

Regarding the C295: The total no.s built so far is 136; that is across 15 countries; and our initial order is close to half of it; orders may go up in future once Tatas start producing it

Aditya G
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3042
Joined: 19 Feb 2002 12:31
Contact:

Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Postby Aditya G » 25 Mar 2017 03:38

I like C-295 because the base aircraft has several variants including AEW and MR.

srai
BRF Oldie
Posts: 2978
Joined: 23 Oct 2001 11:31

Re: Transport Aircraft for IAF

Postby srai » 25 Mar 2017 09:27

IMO, C-295 is a good choice. Mature product with lots of variants. If Indian armed forces and paramilitaries standardize on it, there would be more than 200 units on order.

Transport, MEDEVAC, VIP, Civil
Image
Image
Image
Image

AEW&C
Image

Gunship
Image

ASW & SAR
Image
Image
Image

Tanker
Image

Firefighter
Image

SIGINT
Image


Return to “Military Issues & History Forum”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: brar_w, Jayram, MSNbot Media, ranjan.rao, sarang, Vril and 25 guests