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Postby Prem » 28 Mar 2017 10:19

From Twitter by Akash Marathe

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Postby VishalJ » 28 Mar 2017 18:27

Yours truly with the men who man the bear: https://twitter.com/VishalJolapara/stat ... 0114009091

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Postby Khalsa » 29 Mar 2017 04:03

Vishal Jolapara wrote:Yours truly with the men who man the bear: https://twitter.com/VishalJolapara/stat ... 0114009091


Thank you Magnificent.

Any interesting tid bits from their years with the bears Vishal ?
Anything odd , any weird rescue helped out with.

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Postby VishalJ » 30 Mar 2017 11:29

I return to Mumbai after 3 of the most phenomenal days at Rajali.
Bagful of tid bits, lifetime of memories and pictures which will define the time of the Tupolevs with Hindustan long after I'm gone.

A lot of the chai pe charchas we had there with the army of men who are invested in that machine in so many ways probably have to stay गोपनीय

Let Kapil spill the beans he's a better storyteller than me in this regard and he can filter better :-)

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Prasad » 30 Mar 2017 23:39

Please tell me you got some air-air pictures :)

ImageSKAT Patch by Sriram, on Flickr

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Postby VishalJ » 06 Apr 2017 22:26

Mujahideens! Thoko salaam to this wafadaar sevak of the NauSena under the nakshatra http://www.airliners.net/photo/India-Na ... -E/4301461 Image

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby nachiket » 07 Apr 2017 06:08

^^Brilliant! That's going to be my new desktop background.

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Postby shiv » 07 Apr 2017 06:52

^^Ditto here. Even my family is sick of seeing LCA and Sukhoi as my desktop background for decades

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What a picture Vishal !
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Postby VishalJ » 08 Apr 2017 22:48

Prasad wrote:Please tell me you got some air-air pictures :)

Not for now but, InshaSachin

nachiket wrote:^^Brilliant! That's going to be my new desktop background.

shiv wrote:^^Ditto here. Even my family is sick of seeing LCA and Sukhoi as my desktop background for decades

Gagan wrote:What a picture Vishal !

Thank You Nachiket, Shiv & Gagan

Here's the encore: https://flic.kr/p/Sr5ae6 enjoy :wink:

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Postby Zynda » 08 Apr 2017 22:58

^^Brilliant Vishal. I hope I am right on this one. Pretty sure its a long exposure shot. Vishal, can you please share the details of the shot? F stop and exposure time settings? Apart from ISO count, if possible.

Anyways, one can observe the grass blades movement by the blurs. Simplee awesome!!

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Postby VishalJ » 08 Apr 2017 23:15

Zynda wrote:^^Brilliant Vishal. I hope I am right on this one. Pretty sure its a long exposure shot.

Thanks & You think¿ :D

f9 | 210 seconds | ISO 200 - for the Bear & not for the star trails.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/India-Na ... -E/4301461 is f6.3 | 30 secs | ISO 400

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby pravula » 08 Apr 2017 23:19

Vishal Jolapara wrote:
Zynda wrote:^^Brilliant Vishal. I hope I am right on this one. Pretty sure its a long exposure shot.

Thanks & You think¿ :D

f9 | 210 seconds | ISO 200 - for the Bear & not for the star trails.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/India-Na ... -E/4301461 is f6.3 | 30 secs | ISO 400


Interesting that EXIF info does not have these, but other metadata. Are you scrubbing them Vishal?

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby VishalJ » 08 Apr 2017 23:25

yes

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Gagan » 09 Apr 2017 09:37

Vishal
How high do u go on the ISO for a low light shot?
Is the ISO the determining factor or exposure time for u?

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Postby VishalJ » 10 Apr 2017 20:42

NOTE TO MODS: sorry for the haraam lambi charcha & my violation of the no charcha niti. You can kindly kut-pest the above post & this one in the sahi dhaga > viewtopic.php?f=24&t=6858&start=200

Gagan wrote:How high do u go on the ISO for a low light shot?

Lowest if the subject will be stationary for the perceived duration of the exposure.
I've lost a lot of shots as I traditionally preferred the low grain, low ISO, long exposures when trying to shoot aircrafts at Mumbai. However, with better cameras, camera sensors, lenses and a little courage I now don't mind going higher in terms of the ISO.

How high is difficult to answer as that depends on the situation.

This for example, was a moment that wouldn't recur and so I went all the way up to ISO 4000 1/40th f3.5
Anet dosen't really like grain and I had little to no hope they'll accept the shot but the headscreeners deliberated on it for a fair bit and considering the challenges, the shot was accepted. Went on to be the Top Shot on the site, win the Photographers Choice Award and all those generous comments below the picture, blah..blah..blah...

Gagan wrote:Is the ISO the determining factor or exposure time for u?

Latter, as i'll set the ISO depending on how long I think the camera will expose the shot for.
It also depends on how important the shot is and how I want it.

For example, at Aero India once the flight displays are done you get fabulous inbound traffic of Avro 748s, Do228s, An32s, Prithvirajs and the once plentiful, now endangered Gajrajs in sweet slant dusk lighting. (FYI, this entire Aero India only ONE Gajraj gave darshan and it made its presence felt 8), in previous shows there'd be one a day - minimum)

Anyways, when this happens, I have the option to freeze the frame (high ISO, high shutter speed/shorter exposure) or get silky, delicious, (yet very risky as if your technique isn't upto par you end up with a blurry useless shot) buttery smooth panning shots (low ISO, low shutter speed/longer exposure).

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby arshyam » 10 Apr 2017 21:16

Vishal, that's an excellent set of pictures!

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Postby Zynda » 10 Apr 2017 21:29

Vishal, thanks for the info. Last question on this topic from me. I am sure you are so experienced by now that its almost intuitive for you about which f-stop, exposure, ISO etc. might give you a good shot. But for amateurs like us, is there a thumb rule and/or quick formula we can use? Especially while trying to capture fast moving and/or rare occasions like planes, birds, animals etc?

Image

The fit & finish of the Su-35 looks awesome!

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Prasad » 10 Apr 2017 22:13

So heres a rule of thumb. For fast jets in daylight, shutter speed priority with shutter speed set at 1/1500s should be a very good starting point. The camera will adjust aperture. Newer dslrs also have auto iso. But on a reasonably sunny day, you can set your ISO at 100/200 and be done with it.

On overcast days, you can shoot a few trial shots to determine a reasonable ISO so that your apertures don't venture into crazy territory i.e. > f10. Thing to watch for on overcast days is vapour cones. They can make for dramatic images.

ImageIMG_7720 copy by Sriram, on Flickr

For prop driven planes, its always nice to see a bit of blur in the props. So keeping your shutter speed at 1/150s is a good starting point. practice practice practice your panning. And be prepared to throw out a lot of your pictures to find that one or two sharp pictures. Do not balk at throwing out non-sharp pictures. You'll only get better if you want better pictures :)
A full disc is always nice though
ImageHTT40 Taxiing by Sriram, on Flickr

Next up is choppers. Start at 1/60s. You'll get a full disc. But you might get one sharp picture out of 200. But it'll be oh so worth it.

Practice practice practice. Also, IS/VR is your friend :)

Birds are a whole heap more unpredictable than planes. So a high enough shutter speed is good to stop motion. But birds are also nicer to see, even in flight, with context. So background blurring in case of greenery in the background or reasonably in focus for stuff like bees or doing a touch and go over water like kingfishers or storks etc will be a decision to be taken depending on situation. Your aperture will help, as will panning, again depending on the situation. Be ready to bump up ISO though. Situations during birding are rarely very cooperative. But LR and capture one have pretty decent noise reduction. Having a noisier than ideal picture is better than no picture.

Hope that helps.

Oh one more thing. During airshows, you might have air display teams doing a fast pass where two planes come at each other from either side and pass. If you pan, following one plane from one side, it'll be better to bump up the shutter speed to 1/2500s or higher so that you get minimal motion blur on the other plane. Something like this -
ImageIMG_7004 copy_2 by Sriram, on Flickr

Not quite indian mil but works as an example :)

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Postby VishalJ » 13 Apr 2017 12:43

Zynda wrote:Vishal, thanks for the info. Last question on this topic from me.

You're welcome!
Please feel free to ask as many questions a you like. Just that, I wouldn't like to violate the sanctity of this thread as this is the thread I post the most to.
In other words, I wouldn't like the mods to sunav me or anyone :mrgreen: so we can continue the discussion in the Camera and Photography Thread: viewtopic.php?p=2142342#p2142342 I've posted my reply there and I request the mods to pls cut-paste the entire discussion from Gagan's first post on this page till now chronologically onto there.

Cheers - VJ

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby VishalJ » 14 Apr 2017 22:31

Nausainik Sea King on the stern of Viraat, for the very last time: http://www.airliners.net/photo/India-Na ... 2B/4316655

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Postby jamwal » 05 May 2017 09:43

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Jawans patrol during a crackdown to flush out militants in Shopian on Thursday.

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Postby Anant » 07 May 2017 00:55

Went to the naval museum in Goa. Took lots of photos including ship insignia etc. Any hoster where I can post them? Thank you.

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Postby jamwal » 07 May 2017 01:12

Naval aviation museum ? Nice place.

This would be good place or maybe Military History thread.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Khalsa » 07 May 2017 04:36

jamwal wrote:Image

Jawans patrol during a crackdown to flush out militants in Shopian on Thursday.


Why the white cross on the Patka. ?

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Postby Anant » 07 May 2017 06:44

Amazing what you can see, boarding in Goa :)

IL-38 May headed on patrol.

https://flic.kr/p/Uyr9L4

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Postby rkhanna » 08 May 2017 15:16

>>>Why the white cross on the Patka. ?<<

Unit Identification Codes. Allows Battlefield Commanders in managing troop deployment. Usually happens when there is more than 1 unit (battalion/regiment) deployed in an operation.

You will often see Markings in Red / Yellow etc. Like this

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby sum » 08 May 2017 16:02

^^ I had read that it is a kind of crude IFF since many of the Pakis started wearing the similar olive greens and also with civilian CAT/Ikhwans also in the mix.

Usually, each unit going into a op get randomly assigned one symbol just before the operation and it is sent to all units over secure comms so that the enemy doesnt know it in case he is wearing same clothes and can safely be tagged as a "red force"/saffron bandit/whatever

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Postby rkhanna » 09 May 2017 11:05

@Sum - You could be right but as far as I was told its for Identification purposes when multiple units converge in a single op so helps in C&C.


I have seen Pictures of Soldiers wearing more than one colour.


PS. I have never seen Para's, J&K SOG, or RR Cdo units use these markings though.

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New C-130 KC-3807 from second batch

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front Closeup ....that IRST

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RAF Jaguar with ASRAAM
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Postby VishalJ » 14 May 2017 20:20

My Latest Photos:

Dawn from the starboard wing of IN317: http://www.airliners.net/photo/India-Na ... -E/4358631

Dusk from the cockpit window of IN317: https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8587005

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Postby VishalJ » 30 May 2017 14:38

Just stumbled upon this from 1 March 1979. Chief of the Naval Staff Admiral Jal Cursetji bids farewell to the Navy after 41 years of distinguished service. Admiral RL Pereira takes over as the new Naval Chief: : https://youtu.be/f32iBWFosSQ?t=8m15s

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Karthik S » 30 May 2017 14:40

Kakarat wrote:New C-130 KC-3807 from second batch

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Did we get all 7 ( 6+1 replacement ) 130Js of second batch ?

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Postby VishalJ » 30 May 2017 16:24

Karthik S wrote:Did we get all 7 ( 6+1 replacement ) 130Js of second batch ?

You know the regs and their order - http://www.scramble.nl/military-database/india

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Unique visitor -- Israeli Air Force 707 with refueling probe from Mumbai to Australia.. I never knew that refueling tankers have full passenger aircraft like windows.

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Postby VishalJ » 07 Jun 2017 15:09

Nailed that sucker on its flight back to the promised land 8) : http://www.airliners.net/photo/Israel-A ... 4391491/L/

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