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Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Vishal Jolapara » 25 Oct 2016 12:39

The Indian Express did a feature on me helping to dispel some of the ignorance around the beautiful hobby of PlaneSpotting: http://indianexpress.com/article/cities ... e-3099387/

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Postby jamwal » 26 Oct 2016 12:01

Too many pictures to post here. Photo album of Kargil War 1999 http://imgur.com/a/uAIsR

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Indian soldiers in Batalik, Jammu and Kashmir during the war

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Members of the Indian Army's 8th Sikh Regiment rest while awaiting a meal during the assault on Tiger Hill

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Indian Army Special Forces stand next to a captured Pakistani mortar piece

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Members of the Indian Army's 9 Para Special Forces gather for a photo op after pushing out the Pakistani defenders

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120 mm Mortar

Ironically, many pictures have Bharat-Rakshak watermark.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby bhavani » 26 Oct 2016 13:45

The below mortar is definitely not a 120mm mortar it looks like 160mm Tampella or 300mm Mortar.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby jamwal » 26 Oct 2016 16:53

There is a 300 mm mortar ??

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby vaibhav.n » 26 Oct 2016 17:21

That wheel deployment is a dead giveaway for a 160mm Finnish M58 Tampella. This was further improved into the M66 by Soltam. It was only operated by India, Singapore and Israel. They used to lower the barrel to load this monster.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby jamwal » 26 Oct 2016 19:50

Wouldn't it be faster to use a ladder or a stool ?

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Rakesh » 26 Oct 2016 19:57

Perhaps a crane would be better :)

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby shiv » 26 Oct 2016 19:59

vaibhav.n wrote:That wheel deployment is a dead giveaway for a 160mm Finnish M58 Tampella. This was further improved into the M66 by Soltam. It was only operated by India, Singapore and Israel. They used to lower the barrel to load this monster.

Does not look like a weapon whose shells I would want landing within 200 meters of where I am. Those men look tired - they would be hefting those eggs.

Rakesh:
http://riv.co.nz/rnza/hist/mortar/mort23.htm
For loading, a semi-automatic lowering device and a counterbalance mechanism is employed in conjunction with a firing mechanism in the breech.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Manish_P » 26 Oct 2016 21:23

Rakesh wrote:Perhaps a crane would be better :)


Well at least hopefully not like these rats use it

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Postby Vishal Jolapara » 16 Nov 2016 16:24

Zanskar, Kargil

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Vikramaditya

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Hawk Mk132s at INS Dega

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Prem » 17 Nov 2016 04:34

The size difference
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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Bhaskar_T » 22 Nov 2016 03:02

Are discussions now allowed in this thread? I recall previously discussions were not allowed.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Aarvee » 22 Nov 2016 04:53

@Prem saar, Perth?

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Khalsa » 22 Nov 2016 06:44

Bhaskar_T wrote:Are discussions now allowed in this thread? I recall previously discussions were not allowed.


No full on discussions just byte sized questions and answers
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Postby Vishal Jolapara » 05 Dec 2016 17:05

Yesterday at Apollo Bunder

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby tsarkar » 09 Jan 2017 14:39

Here are some photos https://www.flickr.com/photos/146759192 ... res/RH9034

The Indian Navy thread is locked, so posting here. Excuse the quality, a mobile can do only so much.

@Vina - if your reading this - I've requested Dr. Rao if he could reconcile the observation I originally made, vis-a-vis known limitations of impedance as cited by you, as well as in light of the papers of Ulrick, Ferguson & the Chinese paper.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby shiv » 13 Jan 2017 07:30

This is not Indian Military - but the undulations on the skin seen in the image were diagnosed as "poor workmanship" on an Indian ship on this forum. I wonder what this is?
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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby JayS » 13 Jan 2017 17:17

shiv wrote:This is not Indian Military - but the undulations on the skin seen in the image were diagnosed as "poor workmanship" on an Indian ship on this forum. I wonder what this is?
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Do you have hires version of same image or some other image showing same thing. I understand your point here. What I am going to say is totally in different context. I have doubt those or similar undulations that were being talked about for Ships. F-35 has composite skin which is far more stiffer than metal skin. While stress bearing metal skin is bound to show undulations under different stress conditions, composite skin shouldn't be acting the same way. I am curious to see if those are real undulations or some smoothened out intended features. Composite is suppose to give much better control over final fit and finish for aero surfaces.

EDIT: Here is the video from which the image is grabbed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mQU-hBAjzs

This frame comes at about 25sec. After 3-4 seconds side view, where one can see there is shade difference between skin panels. It seems those color variations look like irregularities when viewed from particular angle and when post-processed the frame in PS for higher saturation of colors.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby PratikDas » 16 Jan 2017 05:52

Here's the image. Click for hi-res.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Hiten » 30 Jan 2017 11:46

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a photo essay of the military hardware displayed during this RD parade

http://www.aame.in/2017/01/military-har ... uring.html

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby shiv » 30 Jan 2017 12:11

^^Thanks. What exactly is a Troop level radar?

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Postby rohitvats » 30 Jan 2017 14:02

shiv wrote:^^Thanks. What exactly is a Troop level radar?


The radar which cues the missile at battery level-each radar can track 64 targets and guide 8 missiles at the same time (2 missiles per target for 4 targets). Each battery has four launchers (@3 ready-to-fire missiles each), one battery control center and this battery level radar. An additional 2-D surveillance radar can be added if required. Otherwise, a larger 3-D surveillance radar - known as 3D-Central Acquisition Radar (CAR) - provides the long range (80 km) airspace surveillance for the entire missile group.

For some strange reason, the battery is being mentioned as 'Troop' now - so, you've troops control center, troop level radar etc.

BTW - from your question perspective, please check this:

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Prithwiraj » 30 Jan 2017 22:11

https://twitter.com/IAF_MCC/status/823550351920005121

IAF C-17 carried fully loaded diesel tankers to Imphal due to blockage of roads (Bad weather). Is this even a safe practice to carry literally a live bomb in such an expensive aircraft?

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Rakesh » 30 Jan 2017 23:04

Prithwiraj: Risky, but I am sure the IAF took the necessary precautions.

BTW, an in-flight refueler is also a live bomb :) But there are stringent safety protocols and designs to reduce the risk of mid-air explosions.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby sohamn » 30 Jan 2017 23:17

Prithwiraj wrote:https://twitter.com/IAF_MCC/status/823550351920005121

IAF C-17 carried fully loaded diesel tankers to Imphal due to blockage of roads (Bad weather). Is this even a safe practice to carry literally a live bomb in such an expensive aircraft?


Try and ignite diesel and let me know how it goes. Diesel is a very difficult gas to burn and is one of the safest fuel to carry.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Prithwiraj » 31 Jan 2017 01:12

I am pretty sure the load masters have taken precautions but it seems our jugaad way of doing things. I am pretty sure there are other ways to carry fuel than just loading the whole tanker inside a heavy lifter. I might be wrong.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Indranil » 31 Jan 2017 01:23

Its definitely not ideal. The transportation cost of those tankers was a few tens of thousands to a hundred thousand dollars. We need better road and rail connectivity.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Hiten » 31 Jan 2017 13:26

Prithwiraj wrote:https://twitter.com/IAF_MCC/status/823550351920005121

IAF C-17 carried fully loaded diesel tankers to Imphal due to blockage of roads (Bad weather). Is this even a safe practice to carry literally a live bomb in such an expensive aircraft?

the blockade is being enforced by the United Naga Council for the past 3 months, not bad weather.
Hence the IAF airlift

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby shiv » 31 Jan 2017 14:50

Koogal says that there is 100,000 liters of fuel sloshing about in C-17s tanks, Mix that with tanks/APCs and ammunition and it gets really dangerous. Why do people imagine that this is safe while 3 full tankers properly held in place would be a risk? If pilots wanted soosai it would be easier with all the explosive stuff they may have to carry. That apart carrying tanks full of fuel is routine for IAF to supply far off places. These people are carrying cargo ALL the time and the most basic precaution is to fasten everything down so it does not move around.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Indranil » 31 Jan 2017 16:23

They must have taken necessary precautions, but the analogy to fuel stored in aircraft tanks is not correct. Aircraft fuel tanks are designed to undertake all aerodynamic loads that a plane can undergo. That's not the same as a road mobile tanker. For example, when the plane is accelerating or flying at an positive angle of attack, the fluid surface in the tanks is at an incline. We have all studied this in Class XI physics. If the back portion reaches the top cover, fuel might spill. Abundant caution has to be taken during landing, and avoiding any major turbulence. And it has to be hoped that there is no accidental explosive decompression in the cargo hold. Of course, spilled fuel is not equivalent to an explosion, but certainly the analogy is not correct.

Okay no more squiggly texts from me here.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby deejay » 31 Jan 2017 17:36

Indranil, there are well laid procedures for carrying loaded fuel tankers and have been done multiple times. Apart from this all Hazmat rules apply.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby shiv » 31 Jan 2017 18:27

One of the things that even an illiterate tanker driver will teach you in Bengaluru is that tanks full to the brim do not slosh around. Water tankers rush around Bengaluru delivering water to thirsty establishments that can't get enough water. Each tanker holds about 4000 liters in 2 compartments. If you call one home and ask him to fill your tank and tell him to stop after 2500 liters because your tank is full he will tell you to shove it. He will waste every extra drop of water and let your tank overflow because fluids slosh around a partially full tanker and make it uncontrollable. The tanker must either be completely full or completely empty.

That aside anyone who has been stuck behind a full tanker will know that no matter how many stops and starts the guy does there is no leak from the lids. The taps on fuel tankers don't leak either.

Those 12,000 liter tankers come with fuel in 3 or 4 separate compartments - all of which are full to the brim so that fuel does not slosh around. The fuel is coming into contact with the cap all the time - but the cap needs to be sealed. And a tank filled to the brim has little or no air to expand and blow out in case of decompression. The tankers in the aircraft will be fastened down so that they don't slide around, but those precautions are no more than would be taken for transporting army/air force vehicles.

We need to recall that Air Force logistics has a better record of safety than ferries across rivers in India or even night buses. If you trust a night bus driver there is no need even to talk about the C-17 crews ability. My last post on the issue for this thread.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Indranil » 31 Jan 2017 21:54

Good post. I learnt something new.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Prithwiraj » 31 Jan 2017 23:03

very informative post by Shiv sir ... thanks ....

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby JE Menon » 04 Feb 2017 11:04

Discussions elsewhere please. This thread is for photos only.

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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Akshay Kapoor » 04 Feb 2017 13:12

jamwal wrote:Too many pictures to post here. Photo album of Kargil War 1999 http://imgur.com/a/uAIsR




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Indian Army Special Forces stand next to a captured Pakistani mortar piece

13 Jak Rif not 9 Para SF though there are 2 offrs with para beret but they have not been in ops.

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Members of the Indian Army's 9 Para Special Forces gather for a photo op after pushing out the Pakistani defenders

13 Jak Rif not 9 Para SF


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Ilyushin 38SD with Uran missile

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Postby Khalsa » 13 Feb 2017 01:48

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Okay interesting image... Special forces unit gets involved in Militant takedown in Kashmir.
US style helmets with different camo.... even a german looking one (middle soldier).

Last not least ... the odd gun held by the first soldier from the left
M4A1 ?

Full Link
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Re: Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Postby Rakesh » 13 Feb 2017 03:03

Not of the indian military, but an amazing shot!

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