Rakesh wrote:brar: is that from Janes' subscription section? Just be careful.
Thanks, I've taken out the part that was behind the paywall.
Philip wrote:Serious cash indeed.Which right now we don't have,Why I've proposed before they're ordered, leveraging the amphib design into a light carrier/LHPD. I gave earlier US post WW2 revamping of 20+ carriers ,adding an angled deck ,etc. after the war.These would serve as aux carriers until the contours of a dedicated IAC-2 has been finally frozen.
Rakesh wrote:Indo-US navy meet for futuristic aircraft carrier
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/640 ... istic.html
At the concluding session of the working group's meeting here on Friday discussed plans for future co-operation under various aspects of aircraft carrier technology such as design optimisation, construction philosophy, trials procedure and project management.
Rishi_Tri wrote:Hm... What technology is not available? Pretty sure BARC has a version or blue prints of a reactor to power AC ready. Building the AC itself is going to take 10 yrs plus, so why not build the nuclear reactors. Something fishy.
Rishi_Tri wrote:Are the Amrikans saying, we shall give EMALS only for non nuclear reactor AC. Very much possible, else this AC shall become the true competition to Ford. Or it becomes military nuclear cooperation.
President Trump himself has repeatedly criticized EMALS. The first time came when the American president recounted a conversation he had with a sailor to Time magazine back in May. According to Trump, the sailor told him the EMALS wasn’t working as well as previous steam systems. “It sounded bad to me. Digital. They have digital. What is digital?,” Trump asked during the interview. “And it’s very complicated. You have to be Albert Einstein to figure it out. And I said — and now they want to buy more aircraft carriers. I said what system are you going to be — ‘Sir, we’re staying with digital.’ I said no you’re not. You going to goddamned steam, the digital costs hundreds of millions of dollars more money and it’s no good.”
Despite his personal hesitations about the launch system, Trump is likely to favor the sale to India as he has consistently promoted increasing American arms sales abroad. This has been especially true during the president’s current trip to Asia when Trump has called on Japan and South Korea to purchase more American-made systems.
The Indian Navy has officially opened vendor discussions with Boeing Defense and Dassault Aviation under its most ambitious current aviation thrust, a quest for 57 multirole fighters to operate off its future aircraft carriers. Livefist can confirm that while the navy did receive four responses in response to its call for information last year, only two are being regarded as ‘serious contenders’.
As projected here on Livefist before, the contest is progressing as a direct face-off between Boeing’s F/A-18 Block III Super Hornet and a modified version of Dassault’s Rafale M F3R standard.
(Translated from Japanese) Accommodation ship has arrived meaning CV-17's sea trials are imminent.
Shanghai Jiangnan Shipyard Group reportedly received the go-ahead for the construction of the new supercarrier in March 2017.
Initial work on China’s second domestically designed carrier (and third carrier overall), the 85,000-100,000 ton Type 002 (CV 18), purportedly began in February 2016
Combat jet season in India has begun anew. With a deal for Dassault fighters finalized, the nation is back in the hunt for a medium multirole combat aircraft to be made in India for its air force and potentially for export customers. Boeing Defense Space & Security has bided its time since the last contest collapsed in 2015, reemerging for another chance at selling its F/A-18 aircraft with a uniquely aggressive pitch that goes beyond this immediate competition.
Like Lockheed Martin, Saab and Dassault and Eurofighter, Boeing is offering to build a brand-new production line in India for its Advanced Super Hornet. But the company has also yoked the prospects of the F/A-18 in India to the country’s concept for a fifth-generation fighter jet—the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA)—currently in an early definition stage. An engineering and management development phase is expected to begin in 2017.
Boeing says it is in “multiple stakeholder discussions” with India’s defense ministry, air force and research and technology shop, to make the AMCA a seamless progression of a potential Indian-built F/A-18. Dan Gillian, Boeing’s vice president for the Super Hornet, laid out the company’s three-pronged pitch to a group of Indian journalists in St. Louis.
The idea starts with Boeing winning the right to build a Super Hornet production facility for the “Make-in-India Fighter contest” for the remaining medium multirole combat aircraft, which the country is likely to produce in the early 2020s. Boeing proposes that India use the same prospective facility to build and develop the AMCA for an early capability in the late 2020s.
The company is also making itself available as a technology partner on the AMCA program to help accelerate crucial development in stealth, supersonic weapons release, advanced networking and fusion, advanced integrated propulsion and flight control.
Finally, and significantly, Boeing and its Super Hornet partner GE Aviation have proposed to Indian agencies that the GE F414 enhanced performance engine be considered to power the AMCA, offering a substantive mode of commonality with the F/A-18 build program. The GE F414 engine was chosen to power India’s Tejas Mk.2 Light Combat Aircraft (LCA), though a contract has been stalled, among other things, by a lack of clarity on the requirement for the Mk.2. The Mk.2 is an upgraded version of the LCA that India’s Defense Research and Development Organization-led (DRDO) teams are developing without firm interest from the Indian air force.
There are significant hurdles and variables to address, however, chiefly the fact that the Make-In-India program for the moment specifically calls for a single-engine platform. While Boeing India President Pratyush Kumar believes a parallel line of interest is anticipated based on an internal assessment by the company that India will need 100-200 twin-engine fighters, there is no official word from the Indian defense ministry yet. In the event of a twin-engine contest, the airframer will have to convince the Indian government that adding an inventory type by building the Super Hornet makes more sense than building the Rafale, 36 of which India signed up for in flyaway condition earlier this year.
Plus, significant elements of the advanced F/A-18—including an increased thrust engine and conformal fuel tanks—are not programs of record yet. But Boeing believes they will be by the time the government makes a decision on which fighter it will build in India.
The AMCA, which has shifted shape a few times over the last few years, is by far the country’s most ambitious aircraft development program and is intended to be avowedly Indian. The priority of getting the smaller Tejas into squadron service with the air force has kept resources thin for the concept stealth jet program. With the defense ministry proclaiming more than once that the Indian Kaveri engine will power the AMCA, it remains unclear whether DRDO and the defense ministry will pursue a foreign engine partnership. Boeing’s decision to target the AMCA and not the Tejas, which has entered service with the air force, is significant.
“Our focus is now on a global base,” says Kumar, indicating that Boeing has already begun to expand its supplier base in the country beyond its 30 Tier-1 suppliers and 130 Tier-2 and 3 suppliers. Parts of the Apache, Chinook and F/A-18 are currently built by Indian private and state-owned companies.
Boeing’s pitch heats up a field of play that has already been stirred up aggressively. Lockheed Martin, which likely sees the Indian contest as a final chance to keep the F-16 fighter line alive, has offered to move production lock, stock, and barrel to India to service the huge existing Viper support requirement around the world. Saab has announced its offer of gallium-nitride radar technology to sweeten a deal to make the Gripen E in India.
And if India keeps its AMCA program on track, it will almost definitely mean that the country would truncate its separate fifth-generation fighter aircraft purchase of Russian T-50s. India and Russia continue to struggle through negotiations on a research and development contract for that joint-development effort.
NEW DELHI: The delay on part of Russia in supplying aviation items has impeded the commissioning of Indigenous Aircraft Carrier (IAC) Vikrant and the warship is expected to be commissioned by October 2020, a senior Navy official said today.
Vice Admiral Hari Kumar, the Controller of Personnel Services (CPS), said the Navy has had a dialogue with the Russians and the force is hoping to stick to the 2020 deadline now.
"The major reasons for this delay, from 2018 to 2020, is the delay in the (supply of) aviation items from Russia. Because of that we had to adjust our schedule to a certain extent," Kumar said.
The Navy has started receiving the aviation items, Commodore J Chowdhury, Principal Director (Naval Design) said.
"Hopefully, Russia will be sticking to the items committed to us," Chowdhury added.
Nikhil T wrote:
Two years delay due to Russian sloppiness. Anyone know what these aviation items are? Guidance systems?
After several delays, the Indian Navy is confident of commissioning Indigenous Aircraft Carrier (IAC-1) Vikrant, currently under construction at Kochi, by October 2020, a senior officer said on Friday.
“IAC-I is expected to join the Navy in October 2020. All trial schedules have been worked out. We are going to sign advanced contracts with Cochin Shipyard Limited very soon,” said Commodore J. Chowdhary, principal director of naval design. He was speaking at a media briefing on the Navy’s Republic Day contingents. The theme of this year’s Navy tableau is centred around a model of Vikrant being built at the shipyard.
The IAC-I project has been delayed due to hold-ups in procurement especially of 18 major equipment related to aviation complex, including the arrestor and the withstanding gear, from Russia, Cdre. Chowdhary said. “There were licencing issues which have been resolved.”
The carrier is likely to be handed over to the Navy by December 2018 after which it will be put through harbour and sea trials before commissioning.
Vikrant borrows its name from India’s first aircraft carrier, the 20,000-tonne INS Vikrant purchased from the U.K. India currently operates the 44,500-tonne INS Vikramaditya procured from Russia.
Like INS Vikramaditya, Vikrant too would employ the STOBAR (Short Take-Off But Arrested Recovery) mechanism with a ski-jump and arrestor cables to launch and recover aircraft.
It can operate 20 fighter jets and 10 other aircraft. The Mig-29K fighters currently in service with the Navy would also be on the deck of Vikrant.
Initially the plan was to have a mix of Mig-29K and the naval variant of the indigenous Light Combat Aircraft, Tejas.
The IAC-I project was approved by the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) in 2003 and the keel for the 260-metre ship was laid in 2009. The CCS had initially sanctioned ₹3,200 crore, which was subsequently revised to ₹19,341 crore.
In a 2016 report, the Comptroller and Auditor-General (CAG) said that the “delivery of the carrier with completion of all activities is likely to be achieved only by 2023.” But Navy officials stated that all issues have now been resolved and the ship would join the Navy in 2020.
The Navy has already set sights on the IAC-II, which it envisages to be conventionally powered and displace 65,000 tonnes with an advanced Catapult-based Aircraft Launch Mechanism (CATOBAR) similar to the U.S. Electro-Magnetic Aircraft Launch System (EMALS) for aircraft launch and recovery.
JTull wrote:I was looking at Bhuvan pictures of Cochin Shipyard and I can't see IAC berthed anywhere. It's clearly visible on Google and Bing maps. Has it been moved somewhere else recently?
India's Defence Secretary Reviews Indigenous Aircraft Carrier Vikrant
India's Indigenous Aircraft Carrier (IAC) Project was reviewed by Shri Sanjay Mitra, IAS, the Defence Secretary at Cochin Shipyard Limited (CSL) on 19 July 2018. He was accompanied by Vice Admiral Ajit Kumar, AVSM, VSM, Vice Chief of the Naval Staff, Vice Admiral D M Deshpande, AVSM, VSM, Controller Warship Production & Acquisition, ShriSatinder Pal Singh, IPS, Joint Secretary (Shipping) and other senior officers from the Indian Navy.
During the onboard visit, the Defence Secretary was given a first-hand briefing on the progress of IAC construction by Commodore Cyril Thomas, the Warship Production Superintendent. ShriMadhu S Nair, CMD,CSL, highlighted the shipyard’s focus on outfitting and trial activities as the project enters its final phase, and re-iterated the CSL’s commitment to meet the timelines for delivery of the ship.
The ship was launched in Aug 2013 and presently, the main propulsion plant, power generation equipment, deck machinery and auxiliary equipment have been installed and integrated on board. Outfitting of various aviation equipment, navigation and communication equipment, weapons and sensors are progressing. In-house trials of ship’s systems by the Carrier Acceptance & Trials Team have already commenced and the sea trials are expected to commence by early 2020.
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