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Rafale & MMRCA News and Discussions

Postby shiv » 31 Jan 2012 18:08

:D :D

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/news ... wsid=17175

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/news ... wsid=17176

France's Dassault has placed the lowest bid to supply India with 126 fighter jets in a closely watched multi-billion dollar deal.
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However, government sources told Reuters about the $15 billion deal that France's Rafale jet was the likely winner, adding that the defence ministry was now considering buying another 80 or so jets and could invite bidders excluded from the current process to take part. :eek: :eek:


What will Indian Navy do nowuu nowwu
o my bovvu?

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Postby chiru » 31 Jan 2012 18:14

this may not be the right time but does anyone remember the Discovery channel video featuring the MKI and Raffy in togther fighting off the raptor - DEJA VU :p

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Postby Lalmohan » 31 Jan 2012 18:15

ok, i thought eruoboy would win but i am happy to chaDao a pahua none the less!

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Postby Kailash » 31 Jan 2012 18:17

shiv wrote:What will Indian Navy do nowuu nowwu
o my bovvu?


:rotfl: kolaveri fever

"bidders excluded from the current process" in all probability doesn't refer to the 4 rejected contenders or Eurofighter. So unless the F22 is for sale, it should be the F35

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Postby shiv » 31 Jan 2012 18:17

Lalmohan wrote:ok, i thought eruoboy would win but i am happy to chaDao a pahua none the less!


So did I actually. I thought EF was in the bag.

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Postby SriSri » 31 Jan 2012 18:20

Brief chronology of the Indian Air Force Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MRCA) deal, grouped by year. Hope you enjoy it! http://www.india-defence.com/focus-2

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Postby Rakesh » 31 Jan 2012 18:22

Katrina won! YAAY!!!! Barfis are coming!!!!

Good job! An excellent choice considering this is going to be quite expensive for us and has offset the exorbitant cost of the Mirage 2000 upgrade.

MarcH was right after all!

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Postby Dilbu » 31 Jan 2012 18:24

Yeehaaaaw... :D

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Postby JTull » 31 Jan 2012 18:27

Well, there aren't 75 days in January. Just they needed every bit of the 31 days!

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Postby Ankit Desai » 31 Jan 2012 18:28

The MMARCA winner in my life term -> Rafale.

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Postby Rakesh » 31 Jan 2012 18:30

Rafale with the ASMP-A nuclear missile...a dangerous toy that we will likely never get our hands on...as I said, she is called Katrina because she has just the right amount of potency! :)

The Price Negotiation Committee better squeeze Dassault real good, because it is the first export order for Dassault.

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Postby shiv » 31 Jan 2012 18:31

JTull wrote:Well, there aren't 75 days in January. Just they needed every bit of the 31 days!


400% right sir. May you get 75 goats in your kave kaampleks in the sky

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Postby nikhil_p » 31 Jan 2012 18:34

LUNGI Dance...

I always wanted the Raffy to win, excellent news!!! :) Great news after a long time!! Now waiting for LSP and NP

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Postby member_20453 » 31 Jan 2012 18:37

Raffy is the lowest bidder, doesn't mean a deal is through, it really isn't over till the deal is inked, I wonder if that will ever happen since what Swami seems to have said has come true, there will be a lot of corruption noise coming up soon.

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Postby Rakesh » 31 Jan 2012 18:39

Septimus P. wrote:Could it be....

http://livefist.blogspot.com/2011/05/in ... i-has.html

Raffy is the lowest bidder, doesn't mean a deal is through, it really isn't over till the deal is inked, I wonder if that will ever happen since what Swami seems to have said has come true, there will be a lot of corruption noise coming up soon.


An old article and until there is concrete evidence, he can spew verbal diarrhea all he wants. Let us enjoy the moment Septimus. The Typhoon is an excellent and was chosen in the technical shortlist by the IAF. It only lost on the price.

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Postby Viv S » 31 Jan 2012 18:39

Woah... didn't see that coming. Here I was thinking this thing would push past February, but its good to finally get a result.


A hearty congratulations to the French.

Kudos Arthuro. We had a long and at times acrimonious run but it was fun nonetheless.



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I'm not really sure what to do on BRF now that this is over. Maybe I should join a car forum and get into Mercedes vs Audi debates now. :D

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Postby Nihat » 31 Jan 2012 18:40



As well intentioned as the man is in his fight against corruption , I hope he realizes that THIS is not an issue he should sink his teeth into as it's a matter of national importance and much delayed already.


Go Raffy !!!!!

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Postby rajanb » 31 Jan 2012 18:41

Now the Jugaad starts:

31 January 2012 Last updated at 12:45 GMT

French Rafale jet beats Eurofighter in $10bn India deal



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-16809532


French firm Dassault has emerged as the lowest bidder in a $10bn contract to supply India with fighter jets.

Dassault Aviation will now enter final negotiations before any deal is signed for supplying India with 126 Rafale aircraft.

Correspondents say this is one of the world's biggest defence deals and is a major setback for rival bidder, the Eurofighter Typhoon.

Eurofighter lost out in December on an $8bn deal to supply jets to Japan.

Officials at the British High Commission in Delhi said they were disappointed with the decision and would now study the details.

A statement read: "It was expressly said this was about the cost of the contract, not a reflection on the health of bilateral relations between India and the countries."

The officials said they "genuinely believed the [Eurofighter] Typhoon offered the best capability now and in the future".

They also said it was "not beyond imagination" that India might decide the Rafale was not the right option as it continued the process.

Four other bidders had dropped out in the lengthy selection process BS.


The colonial mindset still persists, eh?

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Postby Gaur » 31 Jan 2012 18:41

AOA...this is a double delight. Not only did my fav a/c win, I had never expected the news to come out this soon.

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Postby chackojoseph » 31 Jan 2012 18:42

Dassault Rafale is the Indian Air force MMRCA contract lowest bidder

If all goes through, 18 should arrive this year.

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Postby JTull » 31 Jan 2012 18:45

Times Now is stating that "significantly" lower price means that there's atleast 10,000 crore price difference.

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Postby Kailash » 31 Jan 2012 18:51

chackojoseph wrote:If all goes through, 18 should arrive this year.


If this is confirmed news, jingo kush hua :)

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Postby arunsrinivasan » 31 Jan 2012 18:51

Congrats to Rafale - how can we figure out if the contract will ensure that Dassault does not hold us to ransom in future like the M2K deal?

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Postby Snehashis » 31 Jan 2012 18:52

Raffy in IAF colour via twitter.

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Postby Bob V » 31 Jan 2012 18:55

AoA...go Raffy go.

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Postby rajanb » 31 Jan 2012 18:55

:D Going to see it at the 2013 Republic Day flypast and also at Aero India 2013. seen it before but not in desi colours.

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Postby pragnya » 31 Jan 2012 18:56

Viv S wrote:I'm not really sure what to do on BRF now that this is over. Maybe I should join a car forum and get into Mercedes vs Audi debates now. :D


How can you forget the never ending Arjun vs T-90 debate. :lol:

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wonderful news indeed. well done IAF. will they be placed at gwalior( :?: ) to utilise the infra already available for M2Ks??

it is time to say bye bye to the Mig 27s sooner than later. congrats to all.

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Postby Dilbu » 31 Jan 2012 19:00

This calls for a lungi dance. :D

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Postby member_20453 » 31 Jan 2012 19:01

Well for IAF's sake I hope Swami doesn't pull out some piece of paper that looks like evidence, all it takes to get kill the raffy deal is a piece of such evidence. It is an old article indeed, how the heck did Swami know so long ago that Raffy will win? Not soo easy to discount this as co-incidence.

That said, cheers Arthuro, our battle between EF and Raffy was far tougher than the real battle. It seems for now Raffy has emerged cheaper.

Good running Viv. :)

I am keen to know abou the config and weapons pack. I think an all US weapons pack.

54 months from when the deal is signed, the 18th should be in India.

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Postby saje » 31 Jan 2012 19:01



The Gandhi family's corrupt defence deals have a way of coming back to save our b***s when needed the most. Case in point -- the Bofors Gun during Kargil. So that way, if indeed Sonia Gandhi & Family have profited from this deal, I take it as a good omen! Amen.


Snehashis wrote:Raffy in IAF colour via twitter.


Nice pic! Brought back memories of the time in the late 80s when I had first seen a Mirage 2000 coming to land at the Ambala AFB in almost a similar angle. Used to love ogling at them while on my way to tuitions near the airbase. I also remember being crestfallen when one of them crashed soon after.

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Postby manum » 31 Jan 2012 19:04

beautiful...its time to rejoice...

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Postby Will » 31 Jan 2012 19:04

Areee this is not confirmed news. Just the same thing all over again from reuters that was out during the day. If the news is true than it would be great. :D If they want to go for an additional 80 aircraft they might as well go for the EF. That way you get both an excellent strike aircraft in the Rafale as well as an excellent air superiority fighter in the EF. But its probably just to bring the "stone in the neck" JSF into the picture again :cry:

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Postby Dmurphy » 31 Jan 2012 19:05

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AOA onlee....


AK phyrrrrr!!!

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Postby Manish Jain » 31 Jan 2012 19:06

Great news for everyone involved. Dassault, IAF, Sarkozy, Carla Bruni.
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Snecma-Kaveri???

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Postby Neela » 31 Jan 2012 19:06

Let ous ' ope Indie aero eangine Kaveri also benefeets phroum this deel!

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Postby Snehashis » 31 Jan 2012 19:09

Septimus P. wrote:Well for IAF's sake I hope Swami doesn't pull out some piece of paper that looks like evidence, all it takes to get kill the raffy deal is a piece of such evidence. It is an old article indeed, how the heck did Swami know so long ago that Raffy will win? Not soo easy to discount this as co-incidence.


He is claiming Sonia will be making $2b from the deal. :((

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Re: Raffy wins - Go Katrina!

Postby keshavchandra » 31 Jan 2012 19:11

Great news finally after almost half a decade.... :D
relatively cheaper weapon....cheaper spares.....cheaper repair work....
And was also under IAF choice.... :)


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