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INS Chakra joins IN - Where is the Mithai?

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Postby AdityaM » 23 Apr 2012 22:05

g.sarkar wrote: the blond Olga. There is always Olga in Spy vs Spy stories.

Not sure what u meant by Olga, I google imaged it.
Interesting NSFW images popped up. though still not clear what is olga & language

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Postby rajsunder » 28 Apr 2012 18:38

shiv wrote:Chintits blog is not necessarily the most accurate source of information in the world, but the article tells me that the MTCR disallows the transfer of missiles that have a range of over 50 nautical miles, and that Russia has never exceeded that limit.

I guess we should be thankful for our cooperation with Bechuanaland which helped us produce Brahmos missiles

looks like madam ji got angry, would not let people see her blog.

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Postby VikB » 29 Apr 2012 01:57

This Madam ji is surely miffed. I can only feel :rotfl:
Wonder who is she having the blog now for- only the folks who can say 'wah wah' to her every rant.
Her article is a study in BS-ness. So much for her defence background.
Sample this - she claims that Arihant and Chakra belong to two different class- SSBN vs SSN and hence it is no help to India for training its Navy. Yet she goes on to say that the sea trial of Arihant got delayed due to one year delay in delivery of Chakra!! hain jee, by bhat lahori logic is that possible

Look at her using the delay in Arihant, Chinese navy having xx number of nuclear subs since baba adam times. Plus the radiation problem. plus this plus that. 8000 vs 6000. Rs 5,500 cr. yada yada. agram shagram. The lady does not seem to have left any trick learned over the years to send Indians in a chaddi twist.

Madam, we know you reading this. Be different. Get a life. Report truthfully. Not like this. This is journalism for the heck of it.

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Postby VikB » 29 Apr 2012 02:01

shiv wrote:Chintits blog.........


Shiv, sorry missed this subtle pointer in the first read :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

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Postby Austin » 24 Aug 2012 11:58

INS Chakra Pictures

Note the 8x533 TT and the Close up of propeller

Chakra 8x533 mm Torpedo Tubes
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TAS POD
Chakra Silhouette
Floating Dock
Sail Close Up
Chakra Sail/Bow
TAS Pod Closeup
INS Chakra


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Postby Austin » 24 Aug 2012 12:01

Torpedoes for Chakra would be the 533 mm UGST Universal Torpedoes

UGST ----> http://www.gidropribor.ru/index.php?id=58

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Postby krishnan » 24 Aug 2012 12:10

The last pic is 4 years old ....and it looks ready...

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Postby Austin » 24 Aug 2012 16:51

There was almost more than a one year long delay due to the tragic accident during Chakra trials else we could have got this sub atleast a year earlier

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Postby adityadange » 24 Aug 2012 17:07

Austin wrote:INS Chakra Pictures
Chakra 8x533 mm Torpedo Tubes


what is that long slat in the middle for?

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Postby Austin » 24 Aug 2012 17:09

adityadange wrote:
Austin wrote:INS Chakra Pictures
Chakra 8x533 mm Torpedo Tubes


what is that long slat in the middle for?


Bay for loading torpedoes and weapons inside the sub

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Postby Austin » 12 Jun 2016 11:24

Latest pic of INS Chakra ( via SNaik )

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Postby Philip » 12 Jun 2016 19:41

The bulbous pod housing the TAS atop the fin was delted from the last Akulas because of possibility of fouling of the array line and to increase speed.The so-called Akula-3s have a few kts extra with the removal of the pod.

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Postby Austin » 12 Jun 2016 21:08

Philip wrote:The bulbous pod housing the TAS atop the fin was delted from the last Akulas because of possibility of fouling of the array line and to increase speed.The so-called Akula-3s have a few kts extra with the removal of the pod.


They earlier bulbous pod housing TAS was replaced with a small one because of the availability of newer thin line towed array that did not need a bigger bulbous pod , The nerpa retains it because the submarine was already partially built but has a newer TAS any ways as well as newer customised sonar built for India. Nerpa is one of the most modern Akula by many counts that even the RuN dont operate till date atleast till time when some of their existing ones getting modernised

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Postby Cybaru » 12 Jun 2016 22:00

Wow, what a beauty of a beast! Hope IN signs a deal for a few more of these.

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Postby jamwal » 13 Jun 2016 11:17

Isn't this Suman Sharma the same idiot who picked up a fight with Shiv here as she confused him with Sviv Aroor,typed out some pretty offensive words and then was banned because she just wouldn't stop crapping here ? That was fun.

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Postby Aditya G » 22 Jun 2016 21:49

Escape pod on Chakra has a hump ... SATCOM dome?

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Postby Austin » 23 Jun 2016 09:04

Aditya G wrote:Escape pod on Chakra has a hump ... SATCOM dome?


Not satcom , its a new design escape pod built it has a slight hump

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Postby rohitvats » 23 Jun 2016 13:44

Can the escape pod accommodate the whole crew? Thanks.

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Postby Austin » 23 Jun 2016 13:52

rohitvats wrote:Can the escape pod accommodate the whole crew? Thanks.


Yes

something like this

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Postby Austin » 25 Jun 2016 09:26

INS Chakra in an IN Exercise ( via SNaik )

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Postby Manish_Sharma » 25 Jun 2016 09:40

1st and 3rd shot are most amazing I've ever seen !

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Postby prahaar » 25 Jun 2016 09:50

Does the sonar pod at the back actually swivel in the horizontal direction (see picture 3) or is it just an artifact of the picture viewpoint?

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Postby Austin » 25 Jun 2016 14:32

prahaar wrote:Does the sonar pod at the back actually swivel in the horizontal direction (see picture 3) or is it just an artifact of the picture viewpoint?


The Pod dont swivel must be the camera angle doing the trick

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Postby Austin » 18 Oct 2016 23:12

Source: In Goa Rus & India did deal for leasing 2nd nuclear submarine (971 project). The sub will be overhauled and updated

https://twitter.com/RSS_40/status/788241949094543360

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Postby Khalsa » 19 Oct 2016 00:03

^^^^ Where the hell is Phlipovski with this news ? Usually he beats you to it.

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Postby Rakesh » 19 Oct 2016 03:44

Russia agrees to lease another nuclear attack submarine to India
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/russia-agrees-to-lease-another-nuclear-attack-submarine-to-india/story-kWiXTWwVoE7oNzGwsmMsCP.html

I am dying to know which boat it is. This means mithai or no mithai :)

The lease of the first Akula-class submarine that the Indian Navy calls INS Chakra expires in 2021....The attack submarine will arrive in Indian waters in 2020-21.

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Postby Aditya G » 19 Oct 2016 13:09

Do we get kalibr missiles since MTCR is not a problem

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Postby Lilo » 19 Oct 2016 13:31

The lease of the first Akula-class submarine that the Indian Navy calls INS Chakra expires in 2021....The attack submarine will arrive in Indian waters in 2020-21.

Assuming that the old Akula (Nerpa) will go back to RUS shipyards for refitting or whatever roos intends to do after 2021...

As far as i understand will we be not having the same one number of Akula (even if its the updated new Akula) operational at any time.Going by above timelines - it looks like we wont be seeing two Akulas in indian colors at the same time.

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Postby JayS » 19 Oct 2016 14:37

Which one we are likely to have?? Wiki lists two subs "Kashalot" (Akula-1) and "Iribis" (Akula-I improved) as subs under consideration for leasing to India.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akula-class_submarine

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Postby JayS » 19 Oct 2016 14:39

Aditya G wrote:Do we get kalibr missiles since MTCR is not a problem


Sjha has tweeted a cryptic tweet - Something like Klubs could become Kalibr when you wake up in the morning. I am being too lazy to find link to now.

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Postby vishal » 19 Oct 2016 16:20

Double Trouble: India to Lease Second Russian Nuclear Attack Submarine

Excerpts: According to Russian reports, the Indians originally did not want to lease a second Akula-class boat, instead New Delhi had its eye on the much more advanced Project 885 Yasen-class, but Moscow only has one of those pricey new submarines—Severodvinsk—in service. The remaining seven boats in the class are in various stages of construction, which is proceeding slowly.
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While the Russians have been willing to help the Indians with developing their nuclear submarine program, Moscow has actively steered New Delhi away from the Yasen because of the complexity of operating multiple SSN types. The Kremlin-owned Sputnik news outlet suggested in September that Russia would be willing to help the Indians develop and build half-a-dozen indigenous SSNs.

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Postby Austin » 04 Dec 2016 15:52

Captain Alexander Terenov
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Sweet Memories

In summer 1982 a Charlie-class nuclear-powered cruise missile submarine K-43 deployed in the main submarine base of the Russian Pacific Fleet in Kamchatka peninsula received a top-secret order to leave for the Pavlovsky harbor, not far from Vladivostok, for a demonstration to the Indian delegation. Its crew knew at that moment only the following: there was a rumour that India wanted to establish its own nuclear submarine fleet and chose SSGN Charlie for the beginning.

That was logical: these USSR submarines were the restraining factor for carrier forces and large surface warships of possible opponent. A compact, well-armed cruise missile submarine was a real threat. Short approaching time, low altitude and lethal firing range of missiles made the submarine’s attack difficult to counteract.

The submarine was highly prepared for the demonstration, and the Indian delegation headed by rear-admiral Shekhavat was satisfied. Soon, thereafter, I was appointed as a commanding officer of this submarine and in 1984 I began to train three Indian crews. Indian captains Samuel Daniel, Ravindranat Ganesh, Subhash Anand were competent and professional officers who had commanded submarines and had served in headquarters. Soon we and our families became friends. During training at sea and the three-year lease in India, we ate quite a few packets of salted peanuts (and chilli peppers) together, also fired all kinds of torpedoes and missiles. We learned from each other. I taught them how to control a nuclear submarine and was trying to give maximum decision-making autonomy, and they reciprocated with frank discussions about the navy and submarines and stories about India and its culture. We have been friends for 30 years already.

In those long months and years in the vast Pacific and Indian oceans spent on the bridge, in the control room and in the officers’ messing compartment of our submarine we often talked about the future of the Indian nuclear submarine fleet. We hoped that in 10-15 years several nuclear submarines would be built under the ATV programme. Once in the Sea of Japan, we spotted the state-of-the-art for that moment Project 971 Akula-class submarine that was going through her final trials. Created by the Russian Malachite Design Bureau, she exceeded other submarines due to her characteristics.

Project 971 wasn’t even in the Jane’s Navy books those days. Indian commanding officers rushed to the periscope to study the beauty. With little hope to guard the state secret, I tried to disguise her as a Victor III class submarine, but alas: the Indian officers recognised the nuclear attack submarine of the new generation by the hull lines and dimensions. Who would have imagined that several years later Akula-class submarine would become the new Avatar and the flagship of the Indian submarine fleet!

I have no doubt that those days of remarkable cooperation between our fleets that I witnessed as a commander will move to the next level.


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Postby Austin » 10 Sep 2017 16:23

India gets moving on $ 2.5 billion refit, lease of third Russian nuclear submarine

https://theprint.in/2017/09/10/india-re ... arine/amp/

The nuclear submarine ‘Chakra III’ will take six years to complete and India is keen to embed shipbuilders during its refitting


India is moving ahead with its plan to lease a third nuclear attack submarine from old ally Russia for an estimated $ 2.5 billion. This will include the refit of the boat at a Cold War-era shipyard followed by a ten-year deployment with the Navy.

The lease plans and discussions are being kept under wraps by both sides but ThePrint has learnt that work is on at a fast pace since the agreement was signed in October last year.

Tentatively being called the ‘Chakra III’ – India has leased two nuclear-propelled submarines from Russia in the past, including one currently in service – the project is likely to take over six years to be completed at a Russian shipyard.

Sources have told ThePrint that an Indian team that visited Russia has inspected and identified the hull of a Project 971 submarine that will be modernised and undergo a thorough refit to convert it into a modern nuclear attack boat.

Negotiations are currently on to embed a team of Indian shipbuilders to go through the refit process – which will basically build up the entire submarine again from an empty hull – to give them hands-on experience with complex submarine technology.

The refit will be carried out at the Russian shipyard town of Severodvinsk, where Indian aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya was also constructed. According to officials involved in the project, it would take 78 months for the project to be completed.

The one factor the Indian side needs to work on is that the government needs to pay for both the refit and lease of the submarine – something that will require a deviation from set financial rules.

The decision to go in for a deep refit of an existing submarine was taken because building a new one could have cost twice as much. The Project 971 submarine will be taken off from the Russian Navy for the lease. ​

There has been no announcement yet on which particular submarine would be refitted, but reports have named the Kashalot (K 322).

However, sources have told ThePrint that the two Project 971 submarines that are presently docked at Zvyozdochka shipyard in Severodvinsk are the Samara ​​(K 295) and Bratsk (K 391), both of which were transported there in 2014. Indian teams are believed to have inspected both hulls.

The refit and lease of the Chakra III is particularly important for India that has cleared a project to construct a new line of nuclear-powered, but conventionally armed submarines (SSNs). The mammoth plan, expected to cost over $12 billion, is for six modern vessels to be made in India – which will require trained shipbuilders and design help.

The first official comments on the plan came in 2015, with a senior Navy officer revealing that the design work had started on the project, and the aim was to come out with a new class of submarines within 15 years.

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Postby sum » 10 Sep 2017 16:28

I assume 2.5B includes some sort of hidden ToT for the Indian SSN programme else sounds unbelievably high for a single sub lease

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Postby chetak » 10 Sep 2017 16:29

^^^^^^^
@third nuclear attack submarine


I had posted this news months ago. :)

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Postby Austin » 10 Sep 2017 16:31

Its dirt cheap considering no one would give us that and you cant put a price to it.

Western Countries wont even blink an eye at the query of leasing SSN

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Postby chola » 10 Sep 2017 16:32

sum wrote:I assume 2.5B includes some sort of hidden ToT for the Indian SSN programme else sounds unbelievably high for a single sub lease


I sure hope so! The development phases of ths LCA project up to 2014 before IAF's order of LSPs in 2015 was only $1B.

http://m.timesofindia.com/india/Tejas-project-to-cost-Rs-55000-crore/articleshow/30307248.cms
Antony, however, said the Phase-I and II development cost of Tejas stood at Rs 7,965 ($1.09 billion)


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