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Re: Swift Action:Ajmal Kasab, hanged at Yerwada jail in Pune

Postby Prem » 22 Nov 2012 05:55

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Postby pentaiah » 22 Nov 2012 06:12

I am waiting for Rama Chandra Guha

To write about the valor of Ajamal

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Re: Swift Action:Ajmal Kasab, hanged at Yerwada jail in Pune

Postby RamaY » 22 Nov 2012 06:32

Am reading some Telugu news papers and they are filled with how this kasab-pig was poor and left home when his father did not get him new cloaths and how he got influenced by Islamic jihadists...

Poor Kasab, a victim of society and corrupt religionists.

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Re: Swift Action:Ajmal Kasab, hanged at Yerwada jail in Pune

Postby sum » 22 Nov 2012 08:14

Would treat this report as a authentic one, given Swami's reach and sources:

A grey, silent end
Mohammad Ajmal Amir Kasab, the sole surviving 26/11 attacker, showed no visible emotion and maintained complete silence as he was taken to the gallows on Wednesday morning, a police official present during the execution at the Yerwada jail has told The Hindu.

“His eyes stayed downcast, and he didn’t say a word,” the official said, “he didn’t shout or struggle and the end came quickly.” “I’ve seen lots of colourful stories in the media today [on Wednesday] about his remembering his mother and praying for forgiveness,” the official added. “I wish they were true, because we Indians love a good tearjerker, but the fact is he didn’t say one single word.”

“Frankly,” the officer concluded, “I’m not sure if he fully understood exactly what was going on. It’s also possible he’d ceased to care.”

Sources in the Maharashtra Police, who had dealt with Kasab, said this was of a piece with his conduct over the past two years at Mumbai’s Arthur Road Jail, where he had almost no communication with prison staff. Guards stationed outside Kasab’s cell, the sources said, had strict instructions not to engage with him in anything but functional conversation.

“I’ve seen what a year in solitary confinement does to someone,” a prison official said, “and Kasab spent four years like that … Let’s just say it didn’t make him talkative and engaging.”


Kasab, both sources said, was not told of the reasons why he was being moved to Pune on Monday. “Perhaps he guessed,” the police officer said, “but if he did, he didn’t say anything. He was only formally informed [later that day].” Prison authorities at Yerwada were also informed of the decision to carry out the execution only on Monday, police sources said.

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Re: Swift Action:Ajmal Kasab, hanged at Yerwada jail in Pune

Postby sum » 22 Nov 2012 08:16

Kasab hangs, justice for 26/11 still elusive

In a top secret operation, 25-year-old Mohammed Ajmal Amir Kasab, the lone surviving gunman of the 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks, was hanged in Pune’s Yerwada Central Jail at 7.30 a.m. on Wednesday.

Fifteen minutes later, a terse phone call conveyed to the Maharashtra Home Department that Operation ‘X’ was “successfully completed.” Police sources said Kasab was buried on the jail premises.

The execution comes five days before the fourth anniversary of the attacks that began on November 26, 2008, lasting nearly three days, and took the lives of 166 people. But if his execution brought some measure of closure for the victims’ families, the Lashkar-e-Taiba masterminds of the attack in Pakistan continue to evade justice.

The events that unfolded before the hanging were kept a closely guarded secret too. Jail officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Kasab had offered prayers (namaz) before he was brought to the hangman. The final walk to the gallows in the jail is about 20 feet, and was covered in a minute, the sources said.

Around 10 people, including Jail Superintendent Yogesh Desai, a medical officer from the government-run Sassoon Hospital and an executive magistrate were present for the hanging.

Preparations, including the testing of the strength of the rope and mock hangings, were made a week before.

Mr. Desai told The Hindu that there was no designated hangman and a jail staffer covered Kasab’s head with a customary black hood, then put and tightened the noose around his neck before pulling the lever, making the platform below give away. As per the process, the body was left hanging for half-an-hour, after which the medical officer declared him dead. He was buried before noon.

Official sources said ‘X,’ the codename, was set in motion on November 12, after President Pranab Mukherjee turned down Kasab’s mercy petition on November 5.

Even within the State machinery, very few people knew about the operation, right from setting the date for the execution to bringing Kasab to Pune. It was reportedly overseen by Special Inspector-General (Law and Order) Deven Bharti and 16 handpicked officers, including Joint commissioner of Mumbai Police (Crime) Himanshu Roy and Inspector-General (Prisons) Meeran Chaddha Borwankar.

Union Home Minister Sushilkumar Shinde signed the file and the communication reached the State government by November 8. The process was set in motion soon after. “Except Mr. Bharti’s cell phone, the devices of the other 16 officers were switched off,” a top official told The Hindu.

Kasab was shifted from Mumbai’s Arthur Road Jail to Pune on November 19. Officials said he was taken on a special flight late at night and whisked off to the Yerwada jail. “He was escorted by senior officers of the Crime Branch, commandos of the Quick Response Team and officers of the Indo-Tibetan Border Police. The team reached the jail in the early hours of Monday morning,” said the official. Few jail officials were aware of the identity of the prisoner.

True cloak and dagger stuff here!

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Re: Swift Action:Ajmal Kasab, hanged at Yerwada jail in Pune

Postby sum » 22 Nov 2012 08:18

^^ Btw, Kasab would be the first non-Indian and Paki to be hanged in Desh out of all the 55 hangings done so far!!

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Re: Swift Action:Ajmal Kasab, hanged at Yerwada jail in Pune

Postby pradeepe » 22 Nov 2012 10:45

Finally. He died the right way. Election drama or not, who cares, justice was served the right way.

Now for the rest of the assholes cooped in terroristan. India, grow a pair and get them. I'll glady campaign to have the govt in power for another session, how much ever I dislike them.

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Re: Swift Action:Ajmal Kasab, hanged at Yerwada jail in Pune

Postby Raja Bose » 22 Nov 2012 10:46

Vinita Bisht, widow of NSG commando Havildar Gajendra Singh Bisht, pays respect to her husband in Dehradun after the execution of Ajmal Kasab
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Recognize this guy? Good to see him recover completely. Hope he is still in active service
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Postby Sridhar K » 22 Nov 2012 11:11

Good riddance. Finally he has been sent to the place where he was told that he will get to enjoy 72 houris while the real master minds are happily enjoying houris on earth.

Chindu had articles today about why capital punishment is bad blah blah,..

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Re: Swift Action:Ajmal Kasab, hanged at Yerwada jail in Pune

Postby Sachin » 22 Nov 2012 11:45

Raja Bose wrote:Recognize this guy? Good to see him recover completely. Hope he is still in active service

He would be Manesh Kumar the NSG commando. He is not fully recovered, so I guess he would not be in NSG or even the Army. But his condition is improved a lot, and he can walk around a bit (thanks to the Ayurvedic treatment he is undergoing in Kerala). He was paralysed, but now his conditions are improving. If I remember it right, he was discharged on medical grounds. Manesh had visited Sabari Mala shrine of Lord Ayyappa, and that is where he was also informed that Kasab is executed. He visited the hill shrine on a Dholi.

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Re: Swift Action:Ajmal Kasab, hanged at Yerwada jail in Pune

Postby vina » 22 Nov 2012 12:05

Manesh had visited Sabari Mala shrine of Lord Ayyappa, and that is where he was also informed that Kasab is executed. He visited the hill shrine on a Dholi


Hmm. The paralyzed Commando is back on his feet and received God's grace the same day the Pakbarian Animal is dispatched to get his 72 raisins. Surely God/Allah/Ayyappa knows best.

Don't worry about that Dholi bit. Next time he visits the shrine, he will be striding up that mountain on his own two strong feet.

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Postby adityadange » 22 Nov 2012 12:28

Kasab was shifted from Mumbai’s Arthur Road Jail to Pune on November 19. Officials said he was taken on a special flight late at night and whisked off to the Yerwada jail. “He was escorted by senior officers of the Crime Branch, commandos of the Quick Response Team and officers of the Indo-Tibetan Border Police. The team reached the jail in the early hours of Monday morning,” said the official. Few jail officials were aware of the identity of the prisoner.


other newspaper has mentioned he was shifted by road.

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Postby Gagan » 22 Nov 2012 12:35

Geo TV report on Kasab's hanging.
Aaj Kamran Ke Saath 21st Nov 2012

[youtube]lViZ8MvInMQ&start=1200[/youtube]
Video will start at 20 minutes. But the begining of the news clip is also interesting.

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Re: Swift Action:Ajmal Kasab, hanged at Yerwada jail in Pune

Postby rkirankr » 22 Nov 2012 12:51

To me Kasab's hanging represents one more sinister move by GOI.
I fully agree his hanging, but I have doubts on how the GOI will use this event. That is what I have tried to explain my thoughts below. I am not as skilled as BJi or Sankuji but here it goes.

Now that he has been punished, the GOI will be free to do pappi Jhappi with the paki turds. The last remaining brainwashed symbol of 26/11 has been erased. Many relatives of the people who were killed both soldiers and ordinary people would have felt justice is done and move on in life.
Eg: The wife of the man who was shot dead after giving water to Kasab. She would feel justice is done and move on with whatever Govt haas given and try rebuilding her life.
Majority of others will be ok or at ambigous about pappi Jhappi. Believe this kind of "looking ahead" and " Moving on" will slowly start in the discussion programs in the DDM.

This is exactly like the RJB movement. Cong let the Masjid get demolished, so for many Hindus the symbol of their hate was gone. Many still do not understand the deeper issues facing Hindu samaj.

The kasab hanging is a similar kind of arrow.

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Postby Surya » 22 Nov 2012 13:03

RB source for the pictures please

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Postby krishnan » 22 Nov 2012 13:04

hindusthan times

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Postby Raja Bose » 22 Nov 2012 13:06

Sachin wrote:He would be Manesh Kumar the NSG commando. He is not fully recovered, so I guess he would not be in NSG or even the Army. But his condition is improved a lot, and he can walk around a bit (thanks to the Ayurvedic treatment he is undergoing in Kerala). He was paralysed, but now his conditions are improving. If I remember it right, he was discharged on medical grounds. Manesh had visited Sabari Mala shrine of Lord Ayyappa, and that is where he was also informed that Kasab is executed. He visited the hill shrine on a Dholi.


Are you sure he is not in IA anymore? :-? Last I heard he was actively serving and was allowed to be posted in Kerala while his parent unit was in J&K in 2011. Sorry to hear he is not fully recovered but the progress made is very encouraging - hope he recovers 100%.

BTW his name is PV Manesh.

Surya: HT.

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Postby Surya » 22 Nov 2012 13:07

thanks RB

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Postby Sachin » 22 Nov 2012 13:23

Raja Bose wrote:Are you sure he is not in IA anymore? :-? Last I heard he was actively serving and was allowed to be posted in Kerala while his parent unit was in J&K in 2011. Sorry to hear he is not fully recovered but the progress made is very encouraging - hope he recovers 100%.

To be honest, it was a guess that he may not be serving. One; he was in his village in Kerala for a long time now, and there are not too many Army units in Kerala any way. Secondly, with the injuries and paralysis he had I dont know if IA could afford him a desk job. And this prompted me to think that he may have got discharged on medical grounds (with all due pensions and other perks).

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Re: Swift Action:Ajmal Kasab, hanged at Yerwada jail in Pune

Postby rajeshks » 22 Nov 2012 13:59

AFAIK he is with the TA 122 Infantry battalion based in Kannur Fort which is close to his native place. Actor Mohanlal is also attached to that unit.

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Postby jamwal » 22 Nov 2012 14:23

There was a news article where it was mentioned that the baabooze had refused money for his therapy. Did government eventually pay for it or he got it on his own ?

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Postby ArmenT » 22 Nov 2012 14:55

Kasab's aunt is another b*tch.
http://m.indianexpress.com/news/caution-anger-sympathy-in-pakistan/1034328/
Talking to Reuters from his home village of Faridkot, Kasab’s aunt Shahnaz Sughra said she was proud of him and wanted his body back. A school mate remembered a boisterous child who loved karate “but never harmed anyone”. Villagers threw stones and slapped around journalists who went to the village.

“This news is hell for us,” Sughra told Reuters by phone. “...Even if he did something wrong, we just want his body. Even if he did something wrong, I am proud that he taught the enemy a lesson in their own country.”

:evil:

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Postby krishnan » 22 Nov 2012 15:29

more reason he body shouldnt be handed over

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Postby Sachin » 22 Nov 2012 15:59

jamwal wrote:There was a news article where it was mentioned that the baabooze had refused money for his therapy. Did government eventually pay for it or he got it on his own ?

This seems to have got sorted out.
* 26/11 hero glad his ayurveda treatment approved
* 26/11 hero forgotten: Army denies treatment to NSG commando paralysed in attack

Another commando how ever is having problems :(.
* 26/11: NSG commando claims non-payment of financial benefits

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Re: Swift Action:Ajmal Kasab, hanged at Yerwada jail in Pune

Postby dinesha » 22 Nov 2012 17:03

India better hand over Kasab's body to Pakistan: Taliban
http://www.rediff.com/news/report/india ... 121122.htm

India asks Pak to increase security at embassy following Taliban threats
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_in ... ts_1768145

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Postby Sachin » 22 Nov 2012 17:13

dinesha wrote:India better hand over Kasab's body to Pakistan: Taliban

Seems to be more of a whine, with lots of "if and else" conditions added in as well. Liked the clause on whether he being an intelligence operative or not. In that case God has to be the magistrate and take further course of action. Taliban is helpless as it is out of its jurisdiction. And case to be only heard when doomsday comes :P. Reminds me of a cartoon clipping which was floating around when Bin Laden was identified as the person behind the downing of twin towers. "Come on Mr. Taliban..hand over bin Laden.. or else Colin Powell is going to bomb your homes" ;)

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Postby SaiK » 22 Nov 2012 19:06

does indic media ever corroborate with GoI with regards to recognizing taliban or entertaining its wishes?
why is the ddm so dork below even any talibanic stds.. makes me think, we have MTTT (more taliban than taliban) folks in desh.. jee, we have quite a lot of enemies with in.

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Postby Kersi D » 22 Nov 2012 21:23

RamaY wrote:Am reading some Telugu news papers and they are filled with how this kasab-pig was poor and left home when his father did not get him new cloaths and how he got influenced by Islamic jihadists...

Poor Kasab, a victim of society and corrupt religionists.


Sad but True

Unfortunately these are the people exploited by the jihadis in Pakistan AND the politicians in India

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Postby Rajesh_MR » 23 Nov 2012 08:36

http://www.indianexpress.com/story-print/1034410/
For injured National Security Guard commando P V Manesh, life is yet to return to what it was. His right side still partially paralysed, the Shaurya Chakra awardee was offering prayers at Sabarimala Temple in Kerala when he came to know about the execution

Manesh’s health over the four years has shown signs of improvement though a piece of sharpnel is still lodged in the left side of his head. To facilitate his treatment, he was attached to the Territorial Army in Kannur. “Now I can walk a few metres with a stick.”

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Re: Swift Action:Ajmal Kasab, hanged at Yerwada jail in Pune

Postby Sachin » 23 Nov 2012 10:49

An act of constitutional impropriety
The author is talking about another judicial review option which seems to be available !!?? And Kasab denied that chance

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Postby sum » 23 Nov 2012 11:41

^^ INC has spoken through their new spokesman, B.Raman:
View: Our death penalty laws need to be revisited

Our laws relating to death penalty need to be revisited in order to provide for death penalty only against those acting at the instance or on behalf of a foreign State or non-State organisation. In other cases, life-long imprisonment should be the norm.

The execution of Ajmal Kasab [ Images ], the Pakistani terrorist belonging to the Lashkar-e-Tayiba [ Images ] who participated in the 26/11 terrorist strikes in Mumbai [ Images ], was totally justified. We need have no regret over it.

At the same time, I do feel that even in the case of people acting at the behest of a foreign State or non-State organisation, there should be special exceptions to carrying out the death penalty, to prevent internal disharmony.

The case of Afzal Guru, sentenced to death for participating in the attack on the Parliament in December 2001, should come under this category. He should not be executed.


It is time to re-formulate our laws relating to death penalty to provide for nuances on the lines mentioned above.

There you have it if you were hoping to see another terrorist being hanged!

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Postby merlin » 23 Nov 2012 12:13

sum wrote:^^ INC has spoken through their new spokesman, B.Raman:
View: Our death penalty laws need to be revisited

Our laws relating to death penalty need to be revisited in order to provide for death penalty only against those acting at the instance or on behalf of a foreign State or non-State organisation. In other cases, life-long imprisonment should be the norm.

The execution of Ajmal Kasab [ Images ], the Pakistani terrorist belonging to the Lashkar-e-Tayiba [ Images ] who participated in the 26/11 terrorist strikes in Mumbai [ Images ], was totally justified. We need have no regret over it.

At the same time, I do feel that even in the case of people acting at the behest of a foreign State or non-State organisation, there should be special exceptions to carrying out the death penalty, to prevent internal disharmony.

The case of Afzal Guru, sentenced to death for participating in the attack on the Parliament in December 2001, should come under this category. He should not be executed.


It is time to re-formulate our laws relating to death penalty to provide for nuances on the lines mentioned above.

There you have it if you were hoping to see another terrorist being hanged!


Man! What a terrorist-loving piece of work. Makes me sad that he was part of our "intelligence" setup sometime. Wonder if he was lobotomized at that time also.

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Postby vina » 23 Nov 2012 12:25

Man! What a terrorist-loving piece of work. Makes me sad that he was part of our "intelligence" setup sometime. Wonder if he was lobotomized at that time also.

Rubbish. I think B.Raman is perfectly right in his remarks. You cannot have a one size fits all approach and yes, you do have to keep the broader picture in mind.
Emerson has said that consistency is a virtue of an ass. No thinking human being can be tied down to a view once expressed in the name of consistency. More important than consistency is responsibility. A responsible person must learn to unlearn what he has learned. A responsible person must have the courage to rethink and change his thoughts. Of course there must be good and sufficient reason for unlearning what he has learned and for recasting his thoughts. There can be no finality in rethinking.
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Re: Swift Action:Ajmal Kasab, hanged at Yerwada jail in Pune

Postby PratikDas » 23 Nov 2012 12:50

vina wrote:
Man! What a terrorist-loving piece of work. Makes me sad that he was part of our "intelligence" setup sometime. Wonder if he was lobotomized at that time also.

Rubbish. I think B.Raman is perfectly right in his remarks. You cannot have a one size fits all approach and yes, you do have to keep the broader picture in mind.

I think the broader picture you speak of is that no Indian Muslim can ever be hung because the majority of the community will unite with the slogan "Islam in Danger" and the rest is predictable. Internal disharmony would be putting it mildly.

On the contrary, Hindus will never unite in similar fashion simply because Congress edited textbooks have seen to it that Hindus are forever reminded about being responsible for the caste system {Divide and Rule}, nevermind the fact that many amongst the supposedly downtrodden castes are living large at the expense of the meritorious.

Rubbish is the outcome of B Raman's suggestion.

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Postby vina » 23 Nov 2012 13:03

I think the broader picture you speak of is that no Indian Muslim can ever be hung because the majority of the community will unite with the slogan "Islam in Danger" and the rest is predictable. Internal disharmony would be putting it mildly.


I think what you said is fundamentally libelous on Indian Muslims. They are as patriotic as anyone else and obviously can see right and wrong as a community, leaving out nut cases who exist in every community. What you say simply misses the wood for the trees.

For eg, Rajiv Gandhi's killer's executions haven't been carried out yet and which "religion" does the opposition to that come from ? Tomorrow, if that is indeed carried out, and there are protests against that in TN , does it mean folks of that particular religion /community are anti whatever as a whole ?And even if there are protests,are you going to hold that against the folks who despite deep misgivings about the SL Govt and sympathies with their brethren across the Palk Straits, did in fact as a society, countenance on an average and consent to the destruction of the LTTE , because of what it was ?

Lets face it. The SL govt could not touch the LTTE as long as there was logistical support and backing from India and most specifically TN . On an average, and over the long term, people and societies can and will know right from wrong.

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Postby PratikDas » 23 Nov 2012 13:14

vina wrote:
I think the broader picture you speak of is that no Indian Muslim can ever be hung because the majority of the community will unite with the slogan "Islam in Danger" and the rest is predictable. Internal disharmony would be putting it mildly.


I think what you said is fundamentally libelous on Indian Muslims. They are as patriotic as anyone else and obviously can see right and wrong as a community, leaving out nut cases who exist in every community. What you say simply misses the wood for the trees.

Yes, it does seem fundamentally libelous, doesn't it? Funny that in a Facebook debate I had on Kailash Kher's page in support of Kasab's hanging had two Indian Muslim males get involved in the conversation. One was ready to declare that Kasab was not a Muslim because no religion promotes violence :roll: , yet we've been told what Kasab's final words were and they sure seem to point towards his being a Muslim. The other declared me an idiot and was implicitly apologetic for Kasab's hanging, perhaps because Kasab was a naadaan nanha munha. The proof is in the pudding, Vina ji.

As for the Rajiv Gandhi's assassin not being killed, I don't see what the hold up is for.

Vina ji, if you're beginning to think that I'm a bigot then I humbly invite you to Kailash Kher's (the singer) Facebook page, if you have time, to the post where he applauded the carriage of justice in Kasab's hanging, and to the conversation therein. The best part was one well meaning female who for all intents and purposes would be classified on BR by some as a WKK declared me a terrorist of the psychological kind. So there you go Vina ji, Kasab was not the terrorist. He was brainwashed. I'm the terrorist. :roll:
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Postby jamwal » 23 Nov 2012 13:19

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Re: Swift Action:Ajmal Kasab, hanged at Yerwada jail in Pune

Postby Dmurphy » 23 Nov 2012 13:19

I have a different take on this matter. You may not agree, but still here goes:

I believe the idea of capital punishment was to not only be punitive in purpose but also to dissuade people from committing the same crime in future. Keeping this in mind:

Kasab came here to die. His peers in Pak are also being trained to come here and after all the destruction they cause, DIE! In such cases, what they fear the most is getting caught like Kasab was, and being subject to state procedures and probably torturous living conditions and god knows what in jail, out of public view, where they live pointless, soulless lives. You will agree, this is worth than death itself. In such cases, we ought to do what they fear the most. If Kasab was sentenced to lifelong, torturous vegetarian lifestyle in prison, devoid of any contact with the outside world, nothing would scare the future fidayeens away from the their training centers and the life of Tukaram Ombale would not go in vain. In such cases, capital punishment for a terror act would only provide solace to the ones who are afraid of getting caught alive, hence defeating the very purpose of capital punishment.

This is just my 2 cents.

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Re: Swift Action:Ajmal Kasab, hanged at Yerwada jail in Pune

Postby Sachin » 23 Nov 2012 13:36

vina wrote:I think B.Raman is perfectly right in his remarks. You cannot have a one size fits all approach and yes, you do have to keep the broader picture in mind.

Death sentences are given out based on strict established guidelines. These sentences get upheld after various appeals. If you ask me; it really requires good struggle from the criminal, to get a death sentence awarded to him in India :). In that case Kasab deserves a grand round of applause. So it is never a case of one size fits all. Each case is weighed at its merit and the courts pass their verdicts. Afzal Guru's case, too was tried on all its merit.

For eg, Rajiv Gandhi's killer's executions haven't been carried out yet and which "religion" does the opposition to that come from ?

Instead of religion it would be based on a "common cause" (Ealem or what ever is the latest mumbo jumbo). So in effect any organised group will be able to ensure that none of the criminals in their midst ever see the gallows. And only the disorganised group, or some poor murderer who did not have a clue on the justice system would be actually executed. Any pressure group based criminal would have biriyanis and sit in prison.

As I see it B.Raman's article pretty much exposes the plan. Forget any hard core criminal from any pressure group (religion based, vote based, regional chauvanism based) being ever executed in India.

DMurphy wrote:If Kasab was sentenced to lifelong, torturous vegetarian lifestyle in prison, devoid of any contact with the outside world, nothing would scare the future fidayeens away from the their training centers and the life of Tukaram Ombale would not go in vain

1. Who would have to bear the costs of these folks sitting in solitary confinement?
2. What if a hijack happens, and demands are made to release all these folks? Dont tell me this has not happened.

Death sentence is a deterrent. Not to the person who got it, but to other wannabes like the dead fellow. It also should be seen as a measure to weed out unwanted characters from society, who have proven that they cannot live in a peaceful world. So it is easier to make thing simpler for these folks, by putting them to death. Good riddance!!

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Re: Swift Action:Ajmal Kasab, hanged at Yerwada jail in Pune

Postby Lalmohan » 23 Nov 2012 13:38

dmurphy - you are right, however every jihadi in jail is a potential hostage exchange chip also

they came to die, but a fiery martyrs death with a direct line to the perfumed garden in a blaze of drug induced ecstasy
not swinging from a rope, solemnly, with the machinery of state and a grinding legal process that gives you hope, breaks your brainwashing and then denys you everything


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