India Border Watch: Security and Operations

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby la.khan » 10 Sep 2019 08:43

As per the latest from Babaji,
अर्ध-सन्यासी (Half Hermit) @bababanaras 6h ago

आज कत्ल की रात है। पाकिस्तानी सेना और आतंकियों के लिए। मोहर्रम में कोहर्रम।
जय हिंद की सेना।

अर्ध-सन्यासी (Half Hermit) @bababanaras 6h ago

Terrorists launch pads are on target across the LoC in Kotli district of PoK. Range is up to 20 Kilometers.

अर्ध-सन्यासी (Half Hermit) @bababanaras 6h ago

High Value Target destroyed by Indian Army in Dharoti area of PoK. Artilleries, ATGMs, 120MM mortar and Rockets are being used....

अर्ध-सन्यासी (Half Hermit) @bababanaras 6h ago

Heavy clashes going on along LoC....
Boys are doing Raktabhishek of Bhagwan Katasraaj.

Looks like our boys are dishing it out in spades :twisted:
:?: I know today is Moharram but what is koharram? Any idea?

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby anishns » 10 Sep 2019 09:12

I think he means “Kohraam” which means uproar in english
In this case cause an uproar amongst the pakis a.k.a terrorists by beating the crap out of them :mrgreen: on the occasion oh Muharram!

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Aditya_V » 10 Sep 2019 16:58

Now Press TV is reporting "wild Fires" by Indian shelling near Chakothi, so Baba tweets seem to be right

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Ankit Desai » 11 Sep 2019 07:54

la.khan wrote:As per the latest from Babaji,
अर्ध-सन्यासी (Half Hermit) @bababanaras 6h ago

आज कत्ल की रात है। पाकिस्तानी सेना और आतंकियों के लिए। मोहर्रम में कोहर्रम।
जय हिंद की सेना।

अर्ध-सन्यासी (Half Hermit) @bababanaras 6h ago

Terrorists launch pads are on target across the LoC in Kotli district of PoK. Range is up to 20 Kilometers.

अर्ध-सन्यासी (Half Hermit) @bababanaras 6h ago

High Value Target destroyed by Indian Army in Dharoti area of PoK. Artilleries, ATGMs, 120MM mortar and Rockets are being used....

अर्ध-सन्यासी (Half Hermit) @bababanaras 6h ago

Heavy clashes going on along LoC....
Boys are doing Raktabhishek of Bhagwan Katasraaj.

Looks like our boys are dishing it out in spades :twisted:
:?: I know today is Moharram but what is koharram? Any idea?


May be related to Pakistan reactivates 7 launch pads on LoC to push in 275 jihadis

-Ankit

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Aditya G » 11 Sep 2019 18:31

Folks, you do know that Baba and others are fake news handles? Some may have access to rumours but thats about it.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby nits » 11 Sep 2019 19:14

And why will a reliable source disclose the plan and alert the enemy :)

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby krishna_krishna » 12 Sep 2019 03:08

Aditya G wrote:Folks, you do know that Baba and others are fake news handles? Some may have access to rumours but thats about it.


We also know that PM modi and others in top leadership follow him on Twitter.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby nachiket » 12 Sep 2019 03:18

Bababanaras is a psyops handle not a fake news one. Not everything he tweets is completely true, but not everything is completely false either. Just enough ambiguity to keep pakis guessing. And pakis are the intended audience, not Indians.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby DrRatnadip » 12 Sep 2019 14:00

“Indian soldiers were on a patrol when they were confronted ..


http://m.timesofindia.com/articleshow/7 ... aign=cppst

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Rudradev » 13 Sep 2019 01:44

https://swarajyamag.com/insta/40-heavil ... ays-report


40 Heavily Armed Pakistani Terrorists May Have Infiltrated Across LoC Into J&K, Says Report


Swarajya Staff
- Sep 12 2019, 7:04 pm,

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby YashG » 13 Sep 2019 07:17

The difference in perception over where the LAC lies on the northern bank of the lake, makes this contested terrain. In 1999, when the Army unit from the area was moved to Kargil for Operation Vijay, China took the opportunity to build 5 km of road inside Indian territory along the lake’s bank. The August 2017 skirmish took place in this area.


Have we ever discussed about this - that China took advantage of Kargil Deployments ?
https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/explained-pangong-tso-lake-theatre-india-china-lac-scuffles-army-5989785/

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby abhik » 13 Sep 2019 09:39

^^^
After the road is built, I bet our "perception" of the border also changes. No wonder Chinese salami slicing can continued over the past decades.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby YashG » 13 Sep 2019 19:43

More Salami Slicing over here in this video!
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/watch-chinese-groups-enter-indian-territory-at-demchok-in-ladakh/videoshow/70191209.cms

Flags to change the status quo. While we're at pak's throat - the Chinese r slicing us away from the other side.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby VinodTK » 14 Sep 2019 01:35

Indian soldiers injured in boat incident with Chinese army
LEH, India (AP) — Chinese and Indian army boats collided on a lake in an area of Kashmir claimed by both countries, injuring some Indian soldiers, but the incident has been settled, Indian officials said Thursday.

The collision occurred Wednesday because of different perceptions of the disputed border in the Ladakh region, an Indian army officer said on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the media.

He said army delegations from the two sides met later in the day and settled the incident and withdrew the troops. No other details were immediately available.
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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby mmasand » 14 Sep 2019 12:07

Hajipur Sector: Indian Army killed two Pakistani soldiers in retaliation to unprovoked ceasefire violation by Pakistan. Pakistani soldiers retrieved the bodies of their killed personnel after showing white flag. (10.9.19/11.9.19)

https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1172741638944370690?s=20

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Vips » 15 Sep 2019 06:11

It is so refreshing to hear Lt Gen Hasnain and Maroof Raza talk on strategic and military affairs. They sound so confident and logical.They do not mince words unlike other indian 'experts' who sound so apologetic even on things that is imperative for us to do or so status quoish on almost everything which they think we should not do or so full of log kya kahenge if we do aggressive diplomacy or military action.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby ramana » 18 Sep 2019 00:12

Chindu was reporting that Pak has begun firing along LOC about 30 minutes ago.
Date 9/17/2019

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Guddu » 18 Sep 2019 07:25

Karan M wrote:


Thanks for posting...worth a hearing

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby pankajs » 18 Sep 2019 19:40

Bakis are building up for the UNGA.

https://twitter.com/UpdatesLoc/status/1 ... 2764601344
LOC UPDATES @UpdatesLoc

Cross border firing reported along the international border in Hiranagar sector of Kathua. More details awaited.

#Kashmir #Pakistan #India #LOC #IB #BSF #PakistanArmy

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby VikramA » 18 Sep 2019 20:06

pankajs wrote:Bakis are building up for the UNGA.

https://twitter.com/UpdatesLoc/status/1 ... 2764601344
LOC UPDATES @UpdatesLoc

Cross border firing reported along the international border in Hiranagar sector of Kathua. More details awaited.

#Kashmir #Pakistan #India #LOC #IB #BSF #PakistanArmy

pakis don't consider that as IB. they call it working boundry(WB). for them all border from loc to punjab is WB. from our side it is manned by BSF and they regularly send some pigs to their 72 hoors every 1-2 months

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Kashi » 18 Sep 2019 20:45

VikramA wrote: pakis don't consider that as IB. they call it working boundry(WB). for them all border from loc to punjab is WB. from our side it is manned by BSF and they regularly send some pigs to their 72 hoors every 1-2 months


If that's the case then the territory across IB on the Baki side is fair game for us no?

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby VikramA » 18 Sep 2019 21:04

Kashi wrote:
VikramA wrote: pakis don't consider that as IB. they call it working boundry(WB). for them all border from loc to punjab is WB. from our side it is manned by BSF and they regularly send some pigs to their 72 hoors every 1-2 months


If that's the case then the territory across IB on the Baki side is fair game for us no?


i would think so. this whole area from akhnoor to samba-kathua contains the area chicken neck and shakar garh protrusion and would be the top target to be reclaimed by IA in case of a short conflict. during 'peace' time this areas sees a lot of border action by BSF on our side and rangers on their side

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby shaun » 19 Sep 2019 10:13

https://mobile.twitter.com/ANI/status/1174162136538288128

The above scenario warrants a sniper or grenade throwing ??

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Prem Kumar » 19 Sep 2019 10:19

If its thermal imagery, why do we not see the grenade explosion flash? I counted at least 5 grenades being launched

Is it because the thermal signature of a grenade is too small to be noticed, compared to the thermal image of a man?

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Jay » 19 Sep 2019 10:22

shaun wrote:
The above scenario warrants a sniper or grenade throwing ??


Actually they have been waiting for someone on the internet to tell them what to do and what not to do. Please make sure you post your recommendation in Comic Sans font.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Aditya_V » 19 Sep 2019 11:17

shaun wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/ANI/status/1174162136538288128

The above scenario warrants a sniper or grenade throwing ??


This location looks very similar where the Pakis took a white flag to recover bodies, looks like Pakis did that since they were SSG men.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby shaun » 19 Sep 2019 12:35

Jay wrote:
shaun wrote:
The above scenario warrants a sniper or grenade throwing ??


Actually they have been waiting for someone on the internet to tell them what to do and what not to do. Please make sure you post your recommendation in Comic Sans font.


With due respect sir , it's more of a question about the fire power being employed rather than the tactics.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Manish_P » 19 Sep 2019 14:44

With equal respects Sir, the answer is more dependent on the available-at-the-spot and at-that-time firepower (men and material) combined with the tatics honed (on the ground, over the years) for that body of firepower, which will be used. Else the question devolves into "When we have Su 30 MKIs why did we send MiG 21s to intercept the F 16s ??"

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Aditya_V » 19 Sep 2019 15:20

If Pakistanis are planning an attack we must premiltively use artillery and means available to take out thier Arms Dumps, Trucks Bridges and cause heavy casualties. No point in waiting for thier attack, we cant plug all holes

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Nalla Baalu » 19 Sep 2019 16:51

Also, the tactics employed depend on defensive posturing of the adversary. In this case, apparently using rocky outcrops on the slope as shields. No line of sight. Perhaps, lofty trajectory of UBG or mortar helps. Aim for impact right behind the outcrop and radius of impact should get them.

Manish_P wrote:With equal respects Sir, the answer is more dependent on the available-at-the-spot and at-that-time firepower (men and material) combined with the tatics honed (on the ground, over the years) for that body of firepower, which will be used. Else the question devolves into "When we have Su 30 MKIs why did we send MiG 21s to intercept the F 16s ??"

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby ArjunPandit » 03 Oct 2019 17:31

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... Cwf8M.html
interesting
India’s Border Roads Organisation (BRO) has built an alternative road through which its troops can enter the Doklam valley — the site of a 73-day military standoff between India and China in 2017 — where the Chumbi valley of China, Bhutan and India converge, a development that has the potential to alter the military dynamics in the region.

In 2017, the Indian Army was forced to move to the trijunction through a single road in the absence of an alternative, delaying the deployment of troops in Doklam. The alternative road will enable access to the area through two points, easing the logistic difficulties, reducing time and making the process of deployment smoother.

“The alternate road will help inter-valley troops transfer and reinforcement,” a senior military officer said on condition of anonymity.

The standoff at the India-Bhutan-Tibet trijunction began on June 16, 2017, when the People’s Liberation Army entered Doklam in a bid to alter the status quo in violation of Beijing’s existing understanding with both India and Bhutan. The issue was eventually resolved with the disengagement of border personnel on August 28, 2017.

Importantly, of the 61 strategic roads spanning 3,346 km being built by BRO along the India-China border, 3,298 km are now connected. Over 2,400 km, or nearly 72%, of these roads are already blacktopped, making them all-weather roads.

[What does being connected mean? 3,346 km being built by BRO along the India-China border, 3,298 km are now connected]

This year, BRO will complete blacktopping another 11 India-China strategic roads. Blacktopping of another nine roads will be completed next year. “Construction of just six roads — three in the east and three in the west — of the India-China strategic roads with a total length of just 58 km remain,” Lieutenant General Harpal Singh, director general of BRO, said. The rapid construction along the India-China border over the last few years has changed the military dynamics in the region. This includes all-weather alternative access into Ladakh, passing through the Rohtang -Koksar- Kelong route into the Zanskar valley and further up into Nimu. This access will reduce travel time for the military by several hours. Three more tunnels — Baralach La, Lachung La, and Tanglang La — are now being constructed. The Rohtang tunnel will be thrown open this December.

In Arunachal Pradesh, the 180 km-long road parallel to the India-China border connecting Passighat to Brahmakund is also complete. Significantly, Taksin and Tama Chung Chung are linked by the road connecting the Eastern and Western RALP (Rest of Arunachal Pradesh, a military term), saving thousands of kilometres of journey.

Tama Chung Chung was being “air -maintained” till recently. “And, to move from western Arunachal Pradesh to eastern Arunachal Pradesh, one moved south into Assam and climbed back north,” a second senior military officer who did not want to be named said.


In the west, the critical 255 km Durbok-Shyok-Daulat Beg Oldie (DSDBO) road connecting Leh to the northernmost corner of India, which lies a few kilometres south of the crucial Karakoram Pass, is now complete and blacktopped. Significantly, all the 40-odd bridges along the DSDBO road have been widened and strengthened to allow heavy vehicles to travel with ease.

“Time for moving troops, equipment, supplies, and stocks has reduced by about 40%,” a senior official in the ministry of defence (MoD) who did not want to be named said.

“Earlier, convoys made their own road while moving up, now with the bridges being widened and the road coming, movement is much faster,” a third officer said on condition of anonymity. Importantly, the biggest bridge on the DSDBO bridge (road) — midway along the 255 km road which was proving to be a major challenge — is now complete.


“Given the difficult rocky terrain and that construction season is limited to only just three months, several micro-foundations were built and were clubbed together instead of one large foundation for piers to support the bridge,” the second senior officer quoted above said.

The officer added: “BRO has adopted new cementitious- and admixture- based technology — which allow constructing roads faster in colder climates where construction season is smaller and also material doesn’t easily disintegrate unlike traditional constructions — for surfacing like the Chinese to construct the roads. The new technology has reduced the time taken to construct and blacktop the roads by about one-third.”

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Eric Leiderman » 03 Oct 2019 22:27

With The pakis talking of sending civilians en mass to the border to cause international outrage at our reaction.
Thoughts?

My thoughts would be a) to start an artillery barriage accross IB and LOC b) can land mines be dropped from air to mine the area this march is taking place at?

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby VinodTK » 06 Oct 2019 21:58

Elite Commandos Airdropped in Kashmir’s Ganderbal Forests After Militants Sighted on Trek Route to Srinagar

Jammu: A massive military operation to locate ‘hiding militants’ is underway since last ten days in Gangbal forest areas of Ganderbal district in central Kashmir after the killing of two suspected insurgents, who police believe had infiltrated the Line of Control.
Elite Para-toppers of the Indian Army were airdropped in the mountainous region, which has no road access, after the sighting of a militant group by a stationed army unit.

The Paras have spread across the mountainous terrain fearing that there might a big group of militants, who have infiltrated LoC from remote Gurez area of Bandipora district and are trying to move towards the Tral town in south Kashmir on this traditional militant-route.
“Two militants got killed in sequel operations after contact was established around 9pm on September 27,” Ganderbal SSP Khalil Poswal told News18, adding that this is first encounter in the district since 2014. One militant, he said, was killed on the same night and another was killed on the third day.
This is one of the biggest anti-militancy operation launched in the Kashmir Valley after the central government stripped Jammu and Kashmir of its special status and divided the state into two union territories.

Operation and Location
Gangbal is a mountainous area, with a large fresh water lake located in between Gurez and Ganderbal districts. It also connects to the mountains surrounding Srinagar and south Kashmir. The lake is a favourite of foreign tourists for camping and trekking.
Even as the operation is underway, there are a few tourists who are travelling in the area. The police are now mulling to keep a record of the visitors as their vulnerability has increased.
The militants, police believe, have used this traditional route after many years. “It takes three to four days of trekking through rough mountainous terrain from LoC in Gurez to Gangbal,” SSP Poswal told News18. “This route connects to the peripheries of Srinagar and around seven hours of trek leads to Tral town.”
Tral, the hometown of slain Hizbul Mujahideen commander Burhan Wani, has been a militant hot-bed for many years. The road in the area ends at a village called Naranag, around 40 kilometres towards the north-east of Srinagar. The location of the operation is around 17km trek road in the mountains.
“The choppers were pressed into the service and Para-commandos airdropped after the militants were besieged,” said SSP Poswal. “It was not possible to send the reinforcement on time otherwise,” he said.
On September 30, locals in Naranag said that around 15 people from the village were picked up by army and police, and were taken to the encounter sight to carry the militant bodies from the location to the nearest graveyard. The locals said they later buried the slain insurgents.
“We were taken to a location called Churnard and there were two dead bodies in a deep gorge,” locals in Naranag village said, wishing to be anonymous. “It took us almost one day to carry each dead body and we were with the army for two nights,” the locals told News18.
Police also confirmed that the militants were buried in the graveyard in the same area.
The militants could not be identified, SSP Poswal said, that is why they were buried there after DNA samples were collected.
A team of two doctors and four other members of medical staff were taken from the hospital for the medical formalities. “The doctors trekked and collected the DNA samples,” he said.

The DNA report is yet to come, but a family from north Kashmir’s Sopore has claimed that one among the slain is their son, who had crossed over to Pakistan on proper passport through Wagah crossing in April 2018.
The police was taken by surprise by the claim as they wondered how the family learnt about the death as the phone and internet services are snapped in Kashmir.
The police said the family came to believe that their son was killed in the encounter after a relative in Delhi saw the claim in a Facebook post by a person based in Saudi Arabia and relayed the information to them.
As per police, the family said that their son, Kamar-Ud-Din, had left for Nepal from his home. But he went to Pakistan and was listed by forces as C-category militant.
Infiltration Attempts Rise
The area of the operation has been closed for the civilian movement and journalists don’t have access to the place. After massive chopper movement, there were rumours among the locals that the Army suffered causalities. However, authorities have denied this and called the rumour baseless.
Since August 5, sightings of militants has increased but forces are not able to conduct operations in the residential neighbourhoods of Valley. As per police sources, over 450 militant sightings have been reported and there have been around 650 search operations. However, only three operations led to gunfights in which militants were killed.
The forces believe that militants are trying hard to infiltrate into Kashmir valley. Even, as per top police officials, around 60 militant have infiltrated into the valley in last two months.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby arshyam » 20 Oct 2019 19:43

At Least 35 Hizbul, Jaish Terrorists And 6 Pak Army Soldiers Dead In Indian Army’s Massive Artillery Attack: Report - Swarajya

At least 35 terrorists belonging to terror groups like Hizbul Mujahideen and the Jaish e Mohammed have been neutralised in a massive cross border operation carried out by the Indian Army on the intervening night of Saturday and Sunday, News18 Hindi has reported.

This major operation was powered by the artillery guns of the Indian army in response to the unprovoked ceasefire violations by Pakistan which led to the death of two Indian soldiers and a civilian.

Despite this offensive by the Indian Army being lower on the escalation matrix as compared to the famed 2016 Surgical Strikes, it has managed to inflict heavy casualties on the other side.

This strike was carried out to target terrorist launch pads in Jura, Athmuqam and Kundalsahi.

Pakistani Army posts were also hit in the artillery gun attack launched by Indian Army that has resulted in more injuries on the enemy's side. At least six Pakistan Army personnel are said to have been neutralised in this action.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby arshyam » 20 Oct 2019 19:44

Stunning New Details Emerge In Indian Army’s Major Artillery Strike Targeting Terror Launch Pads In PoK - Swarajya

As per latest reports, Indian Army carried out a major artillery strike in Pakistan occupied Kashmir (PoK) targeting terrorist launch pads in Jura, Athmuqam and Kundalsahi on the intervening night of Saturday and Sunday after receiving inputs of a large number of terrorists operating there.

#UPDATE Sources: Terrorist launch pads in PoK’s Jura, Athmuqam and Kundalsahi were targeted by Indian Army artillery guns last night after credible inputs came of significant number of terrorists operating there. pic.twitter.com/mICB8Z9P4K
— ANI (@ANI) October 20, 2019

This attack was carried out opposite the Tangdhar sector as a retaliatory action to the support provided by the Pakistan Army to facilitate the entry of terrorists across the LoC.

This attack by the Indian Army has inflicted heavy casualties and damage on the Pakistani side.

At least 35 terrorists belonging to terror groups like Hizbul Mujahideen and the Jaish e Mohammed have been neutralised, claimed reports.

Pakistani Army posts were also hit in the artillery gun attack launched by Indian Army that has resulted in more injuries on the enemy's side.

Various reports have already claimed at least 4-5 soldiers dying on the Pakistani side, a number which may very well increase.

The unprovoked ceasefire violation by Pakistan in Tangdhar sector, which was an attempt to push in terrorists into India under covering fire, was reported on the intervening night of 19 and 20 October.

"As a result, calibrated escalation of area weapons was undertaken by the Indian side in which terrorist launch pads, Pakistani Army posts giving incidental protection to these launch pads and certain gun positions were hit," said sources.

With inputs from IANS

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Deans » 20 Oct 2019 19:50

X posted from Terroristan thread:

The only way the army can estimate casualties from an arty strike (assuming there were none of our SF around to observe), is from radio intercepts. These would report Pak Army/ rangers casualties, but not terrorists & civilians. May be technically correct that INITIAL Pak army dead were 6-10 (COAS current estimate) + a lot more terrorists. Arty would typically kill a lot more people than a surgical strike with infantry held weapons, or an air strike with smart munitions.

Seems to me that we got the intel because terrorists had been cooped up in their launch pads for some time, unable to cross the LOC - sooner or later they would reveal signs of their presence. This is despite pressure on them to cross - partly to destroy our narrative on 370 and because snow will block the infiltration routes in north Kashmir after Diwali.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Prem Kumar » 20 Oct 2019 20:09

This is brilliant!

SS 1.0: Special Forces
SS 2.0: Airstrikes
SS 3.0: Artillery

Keeps the pig guessing. The latest one not only has the advantage of staying low on the escalation ladder but also establishes a kill-zone within artillery range, all along LOC. Any time they bunch up, we kill them in spades.

SS 3.0 also allows TSP Army to maintain H&D by denying casualties. I expect them to bomb some of their own villages in PoK next, take pictures and go whining to the U.N that India is killing Paki civilians.

Deans
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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Deans » 20 Oct 2019 20:21

Now for the usual suspects (already started with a Congi politician in Maharashtra) questioning the timing / asking for proof of strikes /saying Modiji is a warmonger / diverting attention from economy etc.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Mort Walker » 20 Oct 2019 20:30

Baba is saying 3000 shells from Bofors 155mm artillery were fired. He also claims Pak will attempt to retaliate by artillery attack on IA Brigade HQ in Poonch district. That should happen tonight.

Can someone here please put a map or link of the area of concern?


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