Priority Defence decisions for the new govt.

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Re: Priority Defence decisions for the new govt.

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Postby member_23694 » 09 Jun 2014 11:54

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... -platform/

Good move for transparency and probably level playing field for all

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Postby suryag » 09 Nov 2014 01:10

Now that Manohar Parrikar is coming up and given the fact that we in this forum have tracked indian defence matters far more than any def.sec has, can we draw up a list of short/medium/long term priorities for him. I am sure it will go to him from here ;)

In my wishlist(short term)
1. Prioritise LCA-Tejas Mk1 and approve an order of 80 more to atleast replace the MIG27s please
2. Quick decision on P75 I for 12 orders
3. Quick decision on second IAC
4. Close Rafale purchase
5. Larger orders for P-17A
6. Create two parallel lines of production(OFB as integrator role) for all items made by OFB and initiate competition

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Re: Priority Defence decisions for the new govt.

Postby Rahul M » 09 Nov 2014 08:11

7. Immediate order for more Arjun Mk1/Mk2 so that production facility doesn't stay idle.
8. Large Order for more P28 and P28A (multi-role version ?) to replace aging ships.
9. Decide on a minesweeper/MCMV by yesterday.

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Postby member_28454 » 09 Nov 2014 09:25

10) Immediate placement of large numbers of Arjun Mk-2 to at a minimum match the number of (inferior and unreliable) T-90s ordered.
11) Clean procurement process at Army end. MoD get its fair share of the game but several things are also murky with the Army's end of the process. If someone can be bold enough to approach a serving Army chief with a bribe, there are plenty of shady things going on. One can also observe the effects in terms of the skewed slant to expensive imports and killing of indigenous efforts etc.
Order 40 more LC Mk-1s to keep the production line running up-till the Mk-2 version is ready and to replace Mig-21s. IAF still has approx. 300 Mig-21 variants flying
12) Expedite Artillery trails of Indian made 155mm howitzers in all categories.

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Postby vishvak » 09 Nov 2014 20:42

(*) Quadruple production of guns and ammunition,
(*) Create more mountain strike corps for Kashmir(/East & North of Kasmir)
(*) Create special railways and highways corps [- from Army/ex-army, increase intelligence (to stop crimes such as abduction of children), protect strategic oil/nuclear fuel reserves - all over without any failure, environment (flora and fauna) conservation during floods etc]
(*) Create marine corps with a separate very hefty budget for the same
(*) Practice and perfect asymmetric warfare scenarios for all regiments to liquidate goon squads of various threat levels
(*) Increase strategic deterrence against China
(*) Empower Coast Guard or BSF to take action against smugglers and pirates across arap ocean or deep across borders respectively
(*) Create synergy with Russia to the north and the northwest, thereby making normal friendly relations to the people north of Indian subcontinent.
(*) Create more and more national reserves of oil when prices fall, to hedge against oil price fluctuations.

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Re: Priority Defence decisions for the new govt.

Postby member_24684 » 09 Nov 2014 22:03

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meh ..Those LPD/LHD and that Replenishment Ships what happens to F INSAS ..Those wide Body AEWCS and A330 MRTT

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Re: Priority Defence decisions for the new govt.

Postby srai » 10 Nov 2014 05:05

To encourage adoption of more indigenous products (designed and made in India by private/public companies) into the Indian Armed Forces, the GoI could provide a financial incentive scheme where the GoI would pay up to 10% (or up to x amount) of the upfront cost of the deal separate from the defence budget. If unused, that extra allocation goes back into the finance ministry at the end of the fiscal year.

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Re: Priority Defence decisions for the new govt.

Postby kmc_chacko » 10 Nov 2014 08:10

Rahul M wrote:8. Large Order for more P28 and P28A (multi-role version ?) to replace aging ships.
9. Decide on a minesweeper/MCMV by yesterday.


encourage private participation by split the order of P28A among Private Shipyards.

Goa Shipyard Ltd (GSL) has been preparing to be a manufacturer of minesweepers let them manufacture and if IN need from abroad process it also simultaneously so that localized technology will help us in future.

13. Invite/Increase private companies participation for building Conventional & Nuclear subs.

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Postby kmc_chacko » 10 Nov 2014 08:12

Can anybody tell me how many Destroyers, Frigates, Minesweepers, Subs & other ships are required as minimum operational requirement.
and Are we nearer to it or just like IAF required 45sq and having 32sq

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Re: Priority Defence decisions for the new govt.

Postby wig » 10 Nov 2014 08:44

Armed forces to acquire 440 copters

Armed forces need to acquire 440 helicopters and most of them would be bought from Indian companies, including state-run HAL, to enhance capacity building, Defence Minister Arun Jaitley said.

“Almost 440 helicopters between three services have to be acquired some will be acquired from abroad and most of them have to be domestically manufactured... we have also announced Indian entities can apply and even public sector (firms can apply) so as to have capacity building in India,” he said.

The government decision is expected to generate business worth over Rs 40,000 crore for the local industry in the Defence sector. Besides, India also intends to purchase 56 transport aircraft for which only private sector Indian companies are eligible.

“This time we cancelled the earlier decision and said they will be manufactured in India and Indian companies should apply and only Indian companies should apply which means Indian companies with joint ventures can apply,” he said.

The armed forces had projected their requirements to the Defence Ministry before the government scrapped a Rs 6,000 crore tender to procure 197 such helicopters for the Army and the Air Force. Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd has already started a project in Tumkur, Karnataka, for building light helicopters, which will have a capacity to lift 2.5 tonnes payload.

Jaitley further said the Defence Acquisition Council of India now meets every month.
“I am sure it will continue to happen because the mechanism has been institutionalised,” he said.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2014/20141110/nation.htm#15

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Re: Priority Defence decisions for the new govt.

Postby Cain Marko » 10 Nov 2014 08:47

Order some more units, as many as 6 DRDO AEW Embraer based. Get those airborne tankers , get 40-60 more mki in lieu of rafale or at least reduce rafale order. A bigger order for lca, mk1 or 2 as per IAF needs.

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Re: Priority Defence decisions for the new govt.

Postby member_28722 » 11 Nov 2014 05:52

Suraj wrote:1. Functional defence minister.

Addressed :D

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Postby member_28722 » 11 Nov 2014 05:58

kmc_chacko wrote:Can anybody tell me how many Destroyers, Frigates, Minesweepers, Subs & other ships are required as minimum operational requirement.
and Are we nearer to it or just like IAF required 45sq and having 32sq

IMHO
1. Numbers depend on how many CSG are fielded. We need 3-4 destroyers for air defence, 4-5 frigates for ASW per carrier and 2 nuclear submarines.
2. By 2025 (earliest date for INS Vishal), we should have 9-12 DDG (excluding the Rajputs) and 12-FFG. Assuming that AIP SSKs will act as fillers till we get our own SSNs, we seem to be short on destroyer numbers.

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Re: Priority Defence decisions for the new govt.

Postby srai » 11 Nov 2014 06:39

saurabh.mhapsekar wrote:
kmc_chacko wrote:Can anybody tell me how many Destroyers, Frigates, Minesweepers, Subs & other ships are required as minimum operational requirement.
and Are we nearer to it or just like IAF required 45sq and having 32sq

IMHO
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2. By 2025 (earliest date for INS Vishal), we should have 9-12 DDG (excluding the Rajputs) and 12-FFG. Assuming that AIP SSKs will act as fillers till we get our own SSNs, we seem to be short on destroyer numbers.


Looking at the current orders, this is what the major surface combatants will look like around 2025:
  • 10 x DDG -> 3 x P-15; 3 x P-15A; 4 x P-15B
  • 16 x FFG -> 3 x Krivak III; 3 x Krivak III+; 3 x P-17; 7 x P-17A
  • 4-8(?) x Corvettes -> 4 x P-28; 4 x P-28A(?)

Plus, there will be quite a few legacy types still in service.

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Re: Priority Defence decisions for the new govt.

Postby member_28722 » 13 Nov 2014 02:29

^^^ Agree with your numbers, which is why I see us short in destroyer department. Current design looks to be 64 LRSAMs per destroyer, we need 4 of these to give effective primary SAM missile screen for the carrier, with the frigates providing the secondary.

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Re: Priority Defence decisions for the new govt.

Postby VijayN » 13 Nov 2014 03:02

My list for the our new RakshaMantri: Not necessarily in that order.

1. Clean up the system, bring transparency and speed in deals/processes. (Rest will fall in place)
2. Speed up the Infrastructure works along the China borders (Including the new ones announced)
3. A Comprehensive National security policy - which spells out the vision we as a regional and potential superpower must be. Align priorities/procurement along this vision
4. National war memorial as promised by PMO
5. A clear direction/plan on developing our own MIC
6. Target of at-least additional 25% indigenous product development (End of first term)

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Re: Priority Defence decisions for the new govt.

Postby member_28722 » 13 Nov 2014 05:58

My wishlist
1. Develop local supply chain at all levels. With exception of engine, everything for combat aircraft should be through a local supply chain
2. Engine tech should develop with a target such that All 4th gen post 2025 should have Kaveri when they are either produced 3. IAC-2 nuclear propulsion ... 60K plus tons
4. Indigenous modular VLS for missiles
5. SSN / SSGN
6. F-INSAS
7. More Arjun Mk2 tanks

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Re: Priority Defence decisions for the new govt.

Postby Vipul » 04 Sep 2015 06:17

Defence projects: 2, Birds: 0 in India’s green vs growth trade-off.

The forest advisory committee of India’s environment ministry has approved the expansion of the air force base at Naliya in Kutch, Gujarat, one of the few places in the country where the Great Indian Bustard, of which there are less than 100, is found.

The ministry has to now sign off on the project; however, it usually doesn’t veto decisions of the committee.

Experts say that the death warrant for the bird, which lost out to the much more common but more colourful Indian Peafowl when the country was deciding on a national bird (the bustard was strongly recommended by India’s original birdman Salim Ali, but lost out for several reasons, including, an apocryphal story goes, the embarrassment from a misspelling) was signed long ago and that this is just another nail in its coffin.

The forest advisory committee doesn’t think so.

It approved the diversion of 128.92 hectares of forest land in Naliya to create facilities for the Indian Air Force’s strategic Naliya base, which is close to India’s border with Pakistan. The committee claimed that the bustard sanctuary is located about 16 km from the proposed air force site and a majority of the bird population is found outside the sanctuary area, in grasslands around Naliya.

The air force has for long reported the presence of the birds inside the airbase and areas surrounding the airfield, according to the minutes of a 29 July meeting of the advisory committee accessed by Mint.

“As such, it is opined that the project will not have any significant additional impact on the ecology of GIB in the area,” the minutes noted. The bird has “become used to the disturbance caused by these planes”, it added. The committee also observed that compensatory afforestation in lieu of the diversion of forest land has been proposed on 130 hectares and that area would be used for grassland development, suitable for the bustard.

The environment ministry declined to comment on the story but said it would get back with details in a few days’ time.

The Great Indian Bustard is classified as a critically endangered species by the International Union for Conservation of Nature. Its numbers have fallen from around 1260 in 1969 to around 300 in 2008. Recent surveys estimate a surviving population of less than 100, with around 80 in Rajasthan alone.

“Great Indian Bustard will be the first species that will become extinct in our lifetime,” noted ornithologist Bikram Grewal said.

Grewal, along with a team of experts, submitted a report, Conservation of Great Indian Bustard and rationalization of boundaries of Desert National Park, to the Rajasthan government in May 2015 to tackle the dwindling population of the Great Indian Bustard but nothing has moved on that front.

If the environment minister approves the project at Naliya, it will be the second instance of the current regime doing its bit towards the extinction of a bird species.

Last year, the Prakash Javadekar-led ministry approved the construction of a radar station at Narcondom Island in the Bay of Bengal, home of the endemic Narcondam Hornbills. The entire population of the species, less than 350, lives on this volcanic island that is all of 6.5 sq. km large.

The National Democratic Alliance (NDA) government also approved a road last year through India’s only nesting place for flamingos, the so-called Flamingo City, also in Kutch. However, the potential destruction of this site will not cause the extinction of the flamingo.

Since coming to power in May 2014, the Narendra Modi-led NDA government has focused on the faster clearances of projects.

Javadekar reconstituted the National Board of Wildlife last year and since then, it has cleared nearly 200 projects. Some of these projects are located inside wildlife sanctuaries and national parks.

Activists have often accused the board’s standing committee of merely doing what the ministry wants it to.

A recent study by EIA Resource and Response Centre, an environmental activist group, reported by Mint on 5 August, revealed that the standing committee cleared at least six projects and then ordered inspection of the project sites.

What a change this is from the Rahul Gandhi/A K Antony/ Jayanti Natarajan cabal who in the name of environment protection weakened the indian military.

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Re: Priority Defence decisions for the new govt.

Postby shaun » 04 Sep 2015 06:47

The flamingo city at kutch is already into extinction although the area is remote and only BSF jawans manned that place. There is no rainfall in to that area for last 4 years and thus the extinction. Global warming have the maximum affect on this migratory birds.

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Re: Priority Defence decisions for the new govt.

Postby Falijee » 12 Sep 2015 17:18

India To Buy Attack Drones From Israel For $400 Million: Report

India will buy 10 armed drones from Israel at a cost of $400 million, the Economic Times reported Friday, citing sources within India’s ministry of defense. Officials from Israel Aerospace Industries were currently in India and exploring joint production of drones, the report added.

The Heron TP drones will be operated by India’s air force, and their procurement was being fast-tracked by India’s federal government. The deal was approved by India last week and the drones might be commissioned within a year, the paper reported.


India is investing in a program to build its own unmanned aerial vehicles, all commonly called drones, but is some years away from actually commissioning one for use in combat, the paper reported.

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Re: Priority Defence decisions for the new govt.

Postby Paul » 17 Oct 2015 06:50

All India Radio News ‏@airnewsalerts 4m4 minutes ago
Country's defence export to double this year: @manoharparrikar

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Re: Priority Defence decisions for the new govt.

Postby uddu » 17 Oct 2015 08:22

1/30th of imports to 1/15th of our imports. Each year the govt has to double the export and cut down imports.


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