Jhujar wrote:Which gun is this ?
Jhujar wrote:Which gun is this ?
"At that time, I used to serve in the Standing Committee of Defence. And it's unfortunate, but the story was true. The story was correct," he said.
"I am not getting into an argument. All I am saying is that to the best of my knowledge that story was correct," said Tewari during a book launch function here.
Gen Dalbir Singh Suhag today said that the Mountain Strike Corps, aimed at countering threats from China, would be raised as per the schedule by 2021 and termed acquisition of artillery guns and third generation missiles as “critical areas” for modernisation of the force.
He pushed for the ‘Make in India’ initiative and said the force was setting up an Army Design Bureau to concentrate on design and providing technological inputs to DRDO and Ordinance Factory Board.
He said that 84 per cent of the procurement contracts signed during the last two years by the Army has been with Indian companies.
Suhag added that maximum army procurement schemes in the last five years have been for Indian companies and it stood at 73 per cent.
Asked about reports that the Government was restructuring the Mountain Strike Corps, he said there is no move to slow down its raising.
“A target was kept of nine years and we are on target to raise it by 2021,” he told reporters here. He added that there has been no budgetary cuts.
New Delhi, Jan. 14: The Narendra Modi government has revised its decision to slash the size of a China-specific army formation and returned to the UPA plan of raising the Mountain Strike Corps in eight years.
The decision to raise the 17 Corps, meant specifically for the 3,448km China frontier from Arunachal Pradesh to Ladakh, was taken by the cabinet committee on security in July 2013. Its headquarters was planned at Panagarh in Bengal, with a forward establishment in Pathankot.
But in April last year, defence minister Manohar Parrikar said the government was short of funds and was taking a re-look at the raising of the corps. He added that the UPA government had cleared the plan for the corps without making adequate budget allocations.
However, the army chief, General Dalbir Singh Suhag, said on Wednesday that "the raising of the Mountain Strike Corps is as per schedule till (the year) 2021". He said there had been no cuts in budget allocations for the fresh raisings.
Parrikar's announcement last year had deeply worried the security establishment. One officer had told The Telegraph that "operational considerations outlive changes of government".
Part of the reason for the revision in the government's stand is the restructuring that China is carrying out in its People's Liberation Army and allied forces. Although China has announced a cut in the size of its forces, Indian military analysts have concluded that this relates to the "tail" and not the "teeth".
In military parlance, the combat arms make up the "teeth" and the supply lines make up the "tail". China has also announced plans to unify multiple commands into a single one, meant probably for its disputed frontier with India.
General Suhag said the Indian and Chinese armies were in talks to establish a hotline between their directorates-general of military operations. This will be a confidence-building measure between the two militaries at the highest level.
India and Pakistan have such an arrangement. The Chinese and Indian armies are also looking at opening two more border-personnel meeting points this year.
Through these confidence-building measures, New Delhi hopes to sustain the relative tranquillity on the China frontier.
The revised decision to stick to the schedule of raising the Mountain Strike Corps means that the focus will continue to remain on military infrastructure-building in India's eastern theatre.
Key establishments of the new corps will be based in Bengal, in the existing military cantonments of Panagarh and Barrackpore, while division and brigade headquarters will be built in Bihar and Assam.
The air force too has decided that its next squadron of Hercules C130J transport aircraft, made by America's Lockheed Martin, will be based in Bengal. (The only other squadron is based at Hindon near Delhi).
A strike corps is larger and more mobile than a defensive or "pivot" corps and is an integrated formation with elements of infantry, mechanised and armoured forces, airlift capability, and artillery.
Generally, a corps has two or three infantry divisions backed up by artillery. The Mountain Strike Corps may have four.
For the Mountain Strike Corps, the requirement of "wheels" - ground mobile platforms - will be lower compared with a strike corps assigned an operational area in the plains. But its aviation component - mainly helicopters - will be larger than usual. A strike corps also has elements of the air force dedicated to it.
The nature of mountain warfare dictates the taking of high vantage positions. The army has assessed that the new formation should have 45,000 to 50,000 soldiers.
A temporary headquarters has been set up near Ranchi. The army has been scouting for and acquiring land across India's east and the Northeast to base the units that will be included in the new corps.
NDA recruitment scam: Black Label bottles, cash as bribe, favourable officers posted on recruitment panel
Written by Sushant Kulkarni
Jan 12, 2016,
THE DETAILS that have emerged from the chargesheet filed by the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI), in connection with the recruitment scam at the National Defence Academy (NDA) in 2012, highlighting the level of corruption in the premier tri-services training establishment of India, is like opening a Pandora’s box.
From bottles of expensive Scotch whiskey given as kickbacks along with bribe money; favourable officers being posted on recruitment committee by handwritten orders and the complicity of a long chain of persons from a cycle repairer to the then Commandant of the NDA in the alleged recruitment scam — these are some of the startling revelations that came to the fore when The Indian Express got access to the chargesheet on Monday that was filed on December 28, 2015 by the CBI.
In June 2012, the CBI had unearthed a scam in the recruitment of Class C employees and had then arrested Col Kulbir Singh, who was staff officer to the then Commandant Lt Gen Jatinder Singh, and then Physical Training Officer (PTO) Col AK Singh, besides a civilian staffer of the academy and five others who acted as ‘agents.’ Lt Gen Singh was transferred in a month’s time after the CBI wrote to the Defence Ministry, seeking the same to facilitate an ‘unbiased probe.’ In September 2012, Lt Gen Singh, now retired, was grilled by the CBI for two days.
On December 28 last year, over three-and-a-half years after the initial action, the CBI filed a chargesheet against Col Kulbir Singh for entering into criminal conspiracy with Col AK Singh, the then Commandant Lt Gen Jatinder Singh, the then Establishment Officer of NDA Suhas Waghmare, groundsman Bhagwan More, Sub Major Vasant Aajmane, cycle repairer Ramesh Gaikwad, a staffer at CAFVD Khadki Dattatraya Shitkal, then store keeper Ordnance Depot, Dehu Road, Manoj Shitkal and civilians Balkishan Kanolia, Vishnu Sharma and Pankaj Sharma.
The chargesheet says, “Col Kulbir Singh in criminal conspiracy with the other co-accused persons, promised appointments to candidates appearing for the recruitment of 97 posts Group C employees in NDA in return for an illegal gratification of Rs 3.5 lakh per candidate. He, accordingly, received illegal gratifications from the candidates through other co-accused persons, which was subsequently recovered by CBI— this amounted to Rs 82 lakh on his own disclosure and Rs 4.8 lakh during searches from his residence.” According to the CBI, Rs 1.76 crore were recovered from the searches conducted at houses of various people involved.
The CBI probe reveals that based on information given by Col Kulbir Singh, an amount of Rs four lakh and 12 bottles of Black Label Whiskey were recovered from the house of the brother of co-accused, Lt Gen Jatinder Singh, which was out of the illegal gratifications collected by him, states the chargesheet. CBI sources said that the brother was handed over these bottles and cash in a posh hotel in Mumbai.
What further corroborates the role of Lt Gen Singh in the scam is a Layered Voice Analysis (LVA) test conducted on him. “The test confirms that he was aware of the malpractice in NDA and obtained Rs 30 lakh from Col Kulbir Singh as his share of illegal gratification. He was also aware of the complaints of corruption in NDA against Col Kulbir Singh.” the chargesheet states.
The Indian Express has reported in the past that most of the candidates who paid the bribe money were from Khadakwasla, where NDA is located, and the surrounding villages. These people were tapped by the arrested civilians, who acted as middlemen. The cycle repairer, groundsman and other staffers held by the CBI also acted as middlemen as they knew the local candidates. CBI had tapped hundreds of phone calls between the people named in the chargesheet, which further strengthens its theory. Many candidates were asked by the accused persons to leave their answer sheets blank and expect a call letter subsequently.
The recruitment could never be completed as CBI initiated its action and this was followed by arrests. The CBI had got the list of candidates who had paid up from the a pen drive seized from AK Singh. The candidates had told the CBI that they had paid these agents as candidates knew them personally or got introduced to them through someone else. The chargesheet states, “CBI probe had found that Col AK Singh, in order to destroy the evidence, got some documents burnt, deleted data from his computer and concealed his laptop and pen drive.”
In another revelation, chargesheet states that for the recruitment process, the name of the naval officer posted in NDA, Commander Noor Mohammed, who was then heading the Naval Training Team, was proposed to act as Presiding Officer of Board of Officers. “It was changed by co-accused Lt Gen Jatinder Singh, in his handwriting, and in his place, accused Col A K Singh, was appointed as the Presiding Officer of the concerned Board. Thus, Col AK Singh was very much in a position to manipulate the recruitment process.” states the chargesheet.
A press statement issued by the CBI about the chargesheet states, “The public is reminded that the findings are based on the investigation done by CBI and evidence collected by it. Under the Indian Law, the accused are presumed to be innocent till their guilt is finally established after a fair trial.”
1. Col Kulbir Singh in criminal conspiracy with other co-accused persons, promised appointments to candidates appearing for the recruitment of 97 posts Group C employees in NDA in return for an illegal gratification of Rs 3.5 lakh per candidate.
2. He, accordingly, received illegal gratifications from the candidates, which the CBI recovered, amounting to Rs 82 lakh on his own disclosure and Rs 4.8 lakh during searches from his residence.
3. An amount of Rs four lakh and 12 bottles of Black Label whiskey were recovered from the house of the brother of co-accused, Lt Gen Jatinder Singh.
4. Col AK Singh, in order to destroy the evidence, got some documents burnt, deleted data from his computer and concealed his laptop and pen drive.
5. For the recruitment process, the name of the naval officer posted in NDA, Commander Noor Mohammed, who was then heading the Naval Training Team, was proposed to act as Presiding Officer of Board of Officers, was changed by co-accused Lt Gen Jatinder Singh, in his handwriting and in his place, accused Col A K Singh, was appointed as the Presiding Officer of the concerned Board.
China strike force back on course
Its headquarters was planned at Panagarh in Bengal, with a forward establishment in Pathankot.
Generally, a corps has two or three infantry divisions backed up by artillery. The Mountain Strike Corps may have four.
chetak wrote:NDA recruitment scam: Black Label bottles, cash as bribe, favourable officers posted on recruitment panelNDA recruitment scam: Black Label bottles, cash as bribe, favourable officers posted on recruitment panel
Karan M wrote:
Seriously. Too cute!!
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A tribute, to a great hero of the #BangladeshWar, Lt Gen JFR Jacob (pics courtesy various sources & The Telegraph)
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Found another interesting show in the link Javee saar posted in the last page.
http://www.hotstar.com/tv/pongal-specia ... 1000082064 (in Tamil only)
A one hour show on some Army related tidbits, and a discussion by a few retired personnel and their family on what it takes to serve. The best part was this unforgettable quote of the mother of Lt N Parthiban, Kirti Chakra: "I only wish my son had lived longer so he could have served more". This from a mother having lost her son, whose husband was a retd. Major, and whose two sons-in-law are also in the forces. Damn, that was inspiring.
Or the village of Kammavaanpettai, Vellore, in which every family has someone in the Army.
Or a senior retd. officer's description of the Unknown Soldier, an officer at Siachen who chooses to wait in a ravine along with his man who is trapped there, so that he could stay alive till help arrives.
Lastly, the clip of Major Mukund Varadarajan, Ashoka Chakra, singing the famous Bharatiar song "Acchamillai acchamillai" along with his little girl was very moving.
Take a bow, Star Vijay, for a well done show. I hope they make it into a regular series.
viva kermani @vivakermani 16h16 hours ago Bengaluru, Karnataka
Being childless & having no known blood relatives,Jewish prayer 4 General Jacob recited by Israel's military attaché
pragnya wrote:<SNIP>He notes pakistan at best is a 'nuisance' than anything. while we make our dislike of the american view of equal equal with pakistan, we do the equal equal ourselves by focussing too much on it and in the bargain play into the hands of pakistan's policy of parity with us - a success of its foreign policy, he notes. he compares pak's size in terms of physical, economical, military, position in the world order etc. to make his points.
1. reduction/rationalisation of armoured formations - this as per BK, takes 26% of IA budget which is waste of resources and also ATGM proliferating makes their use unviable. he cites IA armour lobby is stuck in world war 2 mentality and unwilling to do this.
how best this can be done without losing the edge? how many of these can be transferred to the Mountain corp where they can be deployed in tankable areas?
2. the three strke corps be restructured as 'one' with many IBGs - he says the manpower/equipment is too huge and not needed.
again how best the manpower/equipment can be optimally transferred to the Mountain corps without impinging on our edge? can atleast one of the corps be disbanded? is it feasible? if yes, how?
3. disbanding the Prithvi missiles
this imo can be done with Prahar taking its place.
most of his points will mean better and optimum utilisation of the budget, manpower, equipment without additional burden (or possibly minimal) and focus shifting to china while retaining the edge on Pakistan. what would be your analysis? TIA.
chetak wrote:viva kermani @vivakermani 16h16 hours ago Bengaluru, Karnataka
Being childless & having no known blood relatives,Jewish prayer 4 General Jacob recited by Israel's military attaché
Rohitvats: Your long post has unfortunately missed a point. BK's co-option template works, only if there is bilateral and a negotiated de-escalation, not otherwise. He calls this co-option. The only area where he has suggested unilateral action is in the Prithvi's use as strategic assets - which is viewed in classical circles as tactical assets and ought not to be close to the battlefield. Also, as you have indicated and any observer will notice, our force structures are designed to dominate and in response to Pakistan's forces. A willingness to de-escalate from both sides would be required, where India will have to make the bigger compromises and display a clear intent through deployment structures NOT capabilities. Knowing BK, I am fairly certain, he is not asking for India's hard power to be relinquished. He is asking to respond to Chin'a force capabilities not unilaterally disarm.rohitvats wrote:I will be forced to develop armed forces which not only match my adversary but allow me to win a war - which again means more favorable ratio than simply going toe to toe. But as against BK's assertion, look at numbers from either side will tell you that India does not enjoy clear superiority in numbers.
Army soldiers serving in the inhospitable, icy climates of Siachen glacier — the most dangerous battlefield in the world — could soon be using special jackets, trousers, boots, sleeping bags and other specialised extreme winter clothing items that are made in India. These clothes are designed to allow soldiers to operate in temperatures which go up to minus 55 degree Celsius. Since 1984, when India captured the Siachen glacier, the army has lost 869 soldiers in Siachen due to extreme climatic conditions and environmental factors.
Indian suppliers have now, for the first time, given their samples to the army for trials in five items of Siachen and Super High Altitude clothing. Soldiers deployed beyond an altitude of 14,000 feet — in Siachen, Kargil, Drass, Arunachal Pradesh and Sikkim —are issued Siachen and Super High Altitude clothing which consists of 55 items.
Out of 55, 22 are one-time issue items, such as a down jacket or a sleeping bag, issued to an individual soldier and not recycled thereafter: nine of them are imported. The balance 33 items are unit issue items, such as special tents and ice axes: 11 of them are imported.
These imported items are mostly made in China , although they are supplied by around a dozen foreign firms from Switzerland, Italy, Australia, Canada, Singapore, Norway and UK.
The annual requirement of Siachen clothing for the army is around 27,000 sets. The army maintains a reserve for another year’s requirement. The average shortfall of items in Siachen clothing is between 5-10 per cent every year which is replenished from the reserves.
Besides ensuring that there is no depletion in reserve stock, once these items are produced under ‘Make in India’, the defence ministry is also concerned about other problems related to the import of Siachen clothing. The import process has a long gestation period and fluctuating foreign exchange rates further complicate it.
“The biggest issue for us is the China factor. Most of these items use bird feathers as a filling. Even though the items are certified for avian flu, we can never be sure about the Chinese products. Despite the quality check, we feel that we are still taking a chance of bringing infection to India,” a defence ministry official said.
As per defence ministry sources, the impetus to promote ‘Make in India’ in Siachen clothing came from a meeting last February with the Indian Technical textile Association (ITTA), the apex body representing technical textile manufacturers in the country. Army had displayed all the items of Siachen clothing at an exhibition-cum-seminar in Delhi and asked Indian manufacturers to bid for supplying the imported items.
“This first of its kind event was supported by the Ministry of Textiles and attended by Defence Forces, DRDO, DGQA and the domestic Industry. That interaction has now started showing results and the army is moving towards both product improvement and cutting down its import bill for textiles by working with Indian companies,” Sundaraman KS, vice-chairman of ITTA and executive director of Shiva Texyarn Ltd told The Indian Express.
Besides Shiva Texyarn, National Textile Corporation, Sara Sae, Key Tent and Sabre Safety Ltd are the other Indian companies who have deposited the samples of their items with the army. After the tenders are opened, these items will undergo 90 days of trials at Siachen in peak winters. The trial report shall be available to the defence ministry by April and based on technical evaluation and lab testing by DGQA, the suppliers will be finalised.
“Unlike earlier, we are not going for generic specifications, but going by user approved samples. For example, in the sleeping bag, we used to say 90 per cent down feather filling. Now we have changed it to ‘or any other suitable material’. At the end of this process, we will be able to fix new technical specifications for each item which will help Indian vendors indigenise these products,” an army official involved with the tender process explained.
ShauryaT wrote:Rohitvats: Your long post has unfortunately missed a point. BK's co-option template works, only if there is bilateral and a negotiated de-escalation, not otherwise. He calls this co-option.
The only area where he has suggested unilateral action is in the Prithvi's use as strategic assets - which is viewed in classical circles as tactical assets and ought not to be close to the battlefield.
Also, as you have indicated and any observer will notice, our force structures are designed to dominate and in response to Pakistan's forces. A willingness to de-escalate from both sides would be required, where India will have to make the bigger compromises and display a clear intent through deployment structures NOT capabilities.
Knowing BK, I am fairly certain, he is not asking for India's hard power to be relinquished. He is asking to respond to Chin'a force capabilities not unilaterally disarm.
High-tech bulletproof jackets and helmets built in India are exported to 230 forces in over 100 countries.
But, In Delhi there are only 250 such jackets for a force of over 90 thousand people. Why cater others when we ourselves are in deficiency?
This reveals how India leads in body armour tech but fails to protect its own troops.
Why is a bulletproof jacket important?
The strong fibers in the armour catches the bullet and absorbs and disperses the energy of the impact, so the person wearing the jacket will not feel all the impact on that particular area instead it will be widespread.
Due to its successive layers of fibres in the ballisitic layer, it resists the bullet.
The Delhi police commandos wear the traditional vest which a bit modified for the protection of the neck and abdomen. But the vests are not 'bulletproof' but 'bullet resistant'. The wearer is not protected from every bullet threat.
It is actually only the NSG commandos who wear a high-grade, level-3 Kevlar bulletproof vest that can withstand a 7.62 caliber bullet fired from a 10 m range from an AK-47.
Where is India exporting?
Indian exports to British, German, Spanish and French armies, and police forces from Japan to the US, come under the consumer list.
Vendors trying to sell it to our police forces complain of having to wait indefinitely for answers to their queries as they are confused about the evaluation system. The process gets more tiresome when price negotiations take a lot of time.
Countries prefer buying armour from India because they have time and again proved to be of excellent quality. In fact in 2014, a video showed how a Kevlar helmet protected a US Marine from any serious injury when he was shot in the head by a Taliban sniper in Afghanistan.
A purchase of 1.86 lakh bulletproof jackets were to be made by 2012 while another 1.67 lakh were to be ordered in the second round.
However, in December 2015, government withdrew the 2009 tender to buy bulletproof jackets for the Army.
A 2.2kg vest costs anywhere between Rs 35,000 to Rs 2 lakh.
New tech introduced
A manufacturer in Kanpur claimed in 2014 of introducing a technology that reduced weight of body armour by 40% and thickness by 30%.
Shouldn't all those who put their lives at risk for our safety be saved too?
Here's The Story Of Ashok Chakra Recipient Lance Naik Goswami
General K.V. Krishna Rao, the 14th Chief of Army Staff, passed away on Saturday in the Army Hospital (Research and Referral) here, an official statement said. He was 92.
Gen. Krishna Rao was commissioned in the Indian Army on August 9, 1942 at the height of World War-II and served in Burma (now Myanmar), the North West Frontier and Baluchistan during the conflict.
During the extensive Punjab disturbances in 1947 following the partition of the sub-continent, he served in both the eastern and western parts of the state and also saw action in the 1947-48 war against Pakistan in Jammu and Kashmir.
He was a founder-instructor of the National Defence Academy during 1949-51.
He comanding a brigade in Ladakh during 1965-66, an infantry division in the Jammu region during 1969-70 and a mountain division engaged in counter-insurgency operations in Nagaland and Manipur during 1970-72.
During this period, the division also saw action in the 1971 India-Pakistan war in the eastern theatre and was instrumental in capture of the Sylhet area of what was tben East Pakistan and liberation what is now northeastern Bangladesh.
He was awarded the Param Vishist Seva Medal for displaying outstanding leadership, courage, determination and drive during the war.
General Krishna Rao commanded a corps in the Jammu region from 1974-78 and during 1975-76, also headed an expert committee on re-organisation and modernisation for the country's future defence.
He later served as the deputy chief of army staff during 1978-79 and on promtion, went on to head the Western Command during 1979-81.
General Krishna Rao was appointed the army chief in June 1981 and served till July 1983. He was also Chairman of the Chiefs of Staff Committee, the highest appointment in the armed forces from March 1982 to July 1983.
From June 1984 to July 1989, General Krishna Rao was the governor of Nagaland, Manipur and Tripura. He was also the Governor of Mizoram from June 1988 and March to July 1989. General Krishna Rao was appointed the governor of Jammu and Kashmir during 1989-90.
When a proxy war in Jammu and Kashmir and reached its peak, he was reappointed the governor and served rom March 1993 to May 1998. In this capacity, he was instrumental in restoring peace and democracy in the insurgency-riven state.
He was Colonel of the Mahar Regiment during 1968-83. General Krishna Rao was conferred honorary D.Litts by the Andhra and Telugu universities, and a honorary doctorate in law by Sri Venkateswara University.
Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar and the Indian Army chief, General Dalbir Singh, have condoled Gen. Krishna Rao's death.
Parrikar remembered the veteran's contribution in the 1971 war.
"The country has lost one of our best known military leaders. He was a visionary who led ably, inspired a generation of soldiers and initiated modernisation of the Indian Army in the early 1980s. His contribution in the 1971 war and maintaining the unity and integrity of the country shall always be remembered," the defence minister said.