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Wonder which is this building???
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http://pib.nic.in/PressReleaseIframePag ... ID=1529162
Ministry of Defence
Army Commanders’ Conference: April 18
Posted On: 15 APR 2018 1:38PM by PIB Delhi
The biannual Army Commanders’ Conference shall commence on 16 April 18. The opening address will be given by Hon’ble Minister of State for Defence, Shri Subhash Ramrao Bhamre.

During the conference, chaired by General Bipin Rawat, Chief of the Army Staff, the senior commanders will deliberate on specific issues to Army formations and Army as a whole.

Important issues that are likely to be discussed are management of the extant security dynamics, mitigation of future security threats and enhancement of combat edge over potential adversaries. Other issues like infrastructure development for capacity enhancement along the Northern borders, review of strategic railway lines, optimization of limited budget to ensure making up of critical deficiency in ammunition, issues related to Border Road Organization projects, ECHS, as also other matters relevant to operations, administration and welfare of troops will be discussed in detail for planning and execution.

Army Commanders’ Conference, chaired by Chief of the Army Staff is held biannually for formulating important policy decisions through collegiate deliberations. It is an important event for planning and execution process of the Indian Army.
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It is near Dhaula Kuan. The name escapes me.
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It is called the Manekshaw Centre.
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https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 989159.cms
20,000 Indian soldiers sharpen military manoeuvres near Pakistan border

According to an Army spokesperson, the exercise Vijay Prahar employing more than 20,000 troops, cutting edge equipment and state of the art force multipliers is currently under way in the Mahajan Field Firing Ranges close to Suratgarh -- some 300 km from the closest Pakistani border post.
The month-long drill, which is concluding on May 9, is to promote and enhance jointmanship and integration between the Indian Air Force and the Army. "The exercise is aimed to orchestrate wide spectrum of threats which are planned to be tackled through high tempo joint air and land operation involving hundreds of aircraft, thousands of tanks and artillery pieces supported by real time intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance and just in time logistic support," the spokesperson said. <It will practice the troops in "penetrative manoeuvres across the obstacle ridden terrain under a nuclear umbrella. "The formations are practicing and operationalinal certain innovative concepts of operating in the network centric environment, integrated employment of modern day sensors with the weapon platforms, employment of attack helicopters in the air cavalry role and bold offensive of application of the Special Forces."
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^^^
IMO, over-use of ”cutting edge” or ”state of the art” should be avoided. Why the need to keep harping about it? Cliche.
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Ministry of Defence
Exercise Vijay Prahar: South Western Command operationalises new concepts
Posted On: 01 MAY 2018 5:45PM by PIB Delhi

Formations of South Western Command are carrying out Exercise VIJAY PRAHAR employing more than 20000 troops, cutting edge equipment and state of the art force multipliers in the Mahajan Field Firing Ranges close to Suratgarh in Rajasthan. The exercise is aimed to orchestrate wide spectrum of threats which are planned to be tackled through high tempo joint air and land operation involving hundreds of aircrafts, thousands of tanks and artillery pieces supported by real time intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance and just in time logistic support.

The month-long exercise is essentially to practice the troops in penetrative manoeuvres across the obstacle ridden terrain under a nuclear umbrella.

During the exercise, the formations of South Western Command are practicing and internationalizing certain innovative concepts of operating in the network centric environment, integrated employment of modern day sensors with the weapon platforms, employment of attack helicopters in the air cavalry role and bold offensive of application of the Special Forces. The formations will refine their drills and procedures for fighting in the nuclear environment during the course of the exercise.

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Changing Security Environment: The Role of Indian Army - General Bipin Rawat, COAS

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Armed forces to be restructured, asked to plan for future wars

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New Delhi, May 4

The high-powered Defence Planning Council (DPC), at its first meeting on Thursday, has asked for leaner, meaner and restructured armed forces ready for future wars enabled by proper use of budgetary allocations.

Top sources told The Tribune that the DPC headed by National Security Adviser (NSA) Ajit Doval has tasked the three Service Chiefs — of the Army, IAF and Navy — to assess and suggest threats to national security in the immediate and long term.

The forces have been asked to plan restructuring and reforms by learning lessons from the past and cutting out the flab. In the last two years some of the redundant activities of the Army—like military farms started by the British for fodder for horses and milk for troops have been ordered shut. More such activities have been suggested by a committee headed by Lt Gen DB Sheketkar.

The DPC, which actually has come about from a suggestion mooted by Defence Secretary Sanjay Mitra, is looking to empower the forces by decentralising decision-making and increasing financial powers. The committee will also re-look at the budget for maximising its use. “Evolve a plan which enable the budget to be balanced while planning for future wars, not yesterday’s wars,” said a source. This is indicative that a new doctrine could evolve for the future.

At present, 33 per cent of the country’s capital expenses (new infrastructure and equipment) is mandated for defence. Overall defence has some 12 per cent of the entire Budget of the country. Despite this, a report of the Parliamentary Standing Committee in March this year quoted Lt Gen Sarath Chand, the Vice-Chief of the Indian Army, that the Budget 2018-19 has “dashed” all hopes of modernisation of the force, which is saddled with equipment, of which more than two-third is “vintage”. He added that the marginal increase in the budgetary allocation barely accounts for inflation, and the Army won’t be able to pay instalments of past purchases with the money it has received.

The DPC also decided that forces will list out the immediate criticality of weapons and ammunition.

The Foreign Secretary Vijay Gokhale briefed the meeting about the changing geo-political situation, including the recent changes like the tango with China in Wuhan and the shape of things to come.
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http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/commen ... 87347.html

this article appears today. 11 to 13 may 1998 was when the nuke tests were carried out in Pokharan. 20 years ago today. the author provides some insights into The Cold Start hypothesis. worth reading in full
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He states that: ‘Circumstances are conceivable in which India might find it useful to strike first, for instance, against a nuclear weapon state that had declared it would certainly use its weapons, and if India were certain that adversary’s launch was imminent.’ His reiteration of the NFU doctrine as the only doctrine that makes sense may provide cold comfort to Pakistani N-war planners. This is because Menon has opened the NFU statement to several interpretations, not all of which are reactive. He negates the proposed Pakistani employment of N-weapons for ‘tactical’ warfighting by saying that: ‘Nuclear weapons are primarily a political weapon…rather than effective warfighting weapons’. He reinforces India’s stand that Pakistani usage of ‘tactical’ N-weapons will invite strategic retaliation: ‘First strike equals aggression’.
and on cold start
For the lay reader, it is necessary to trace the genealogy of why the Cold War tactic of ‘tactical’ nuclear bluff became germane for Pakistan. Op Parakram (2001) under Gen S Padmanabhan, the then Army Chief, was the ‘tipping point’ that made Pakistan take note of a fundamental Indian doctrinal change. It was India’s full-force mobilisation in retaliation against Pakistan’s attack on our Parliament. Announced with much publicity, it ended in stasis. Within the well-deserved criticism that followed was, however, concealed a doctrinal nugget called Cold Start. A change in warfighting outlook was in the offing before Op Parakram. The three strike corps were full of men of steel who would launch from secure bases provided by willing ‘holding’ corps. The strike corps intent was to cut wide Panzer swathes into Pakistan, stopping short of the hazy nuclear ‘red line’. Their intent was to threaten Pakistan’s strategic east-west communications, thereby forcing it to call off its proxy war.
The reality was different. Firstly, Pakistan had been putting up Maginot/Bar-Lev defences to convert tank country into tank obstacles. Secondly, the mobilisation of strike elements tucked in Gangetic plains and beyond needed time; a critical commodity in war. Thirdly, the defensive corps, identified as service-providers for strike elements, began thinking out-of-the-box. The defensive corps, chafed by extended Op Parakram inaction, started identifying themselves as ‘pivot corps’ that could perform offensive operations, even as hinterland forces took time to launch. Instead of being a defensive deployment, a pivot corps could, within hours, pivot on its own deployment to cut through enemy defences caught by surprise because of an unanticipated observe-orient-analyse-decide-act (OOADA) loop.
The pivot could equally be premised on the enemy’s ‘shock’ to reach shallow enemy objectives without inviting an all-out war. Formulated at an Op Parakram press conference by Gen Padmanabhan, the much-maligned operation carried a sting — created in countless operation room shelters in hot desert, windswept plains, foothills, corridors of power in Army Commands and headquarters. In Indian reckoning, Cold Start threw cold water on Pakistan’s Kargil boasts of nuclear bullying.
and of course all Pak claims should be taken with "khewra rock salt".
The question arises: What is it about Cold Start that has Pakistan in such paranoia? In Pakistani perception, it allows India to launch up to eight IBGs from holding corps into shallow offensive operations, even as strike corps mobilise from hinterland garrisons. This IBG offensive taking off from a literal zero warning would be supplemented with lethal weapons such as Brahmos, Nirbhay ALCMs and Prahaar/Pragati ballistic missiles. Such ‘lightning’ action would upset the Pakistani deployment and reaction calculus.
Reviving the Cold War hypothesis, Pakistan says its sophisticated 60-km range Nasr Hatf IX multi-tube TNW-enabled ballistic missile is an antidote to the Cold Start. Pakistan’s Inter Services Public Relations Directorate (ISPR) claims that Nasr adds ‘deterrence value to Pakistan’s strategic weapons development program’ and carries ‘nuclear warheads of appropriate yield/accuracy with shoot-and-scoot attributes’. It suggests that Pakistan has a single integrated operational plan (SIOP) that marries up TNW usage with conventional warfare command and control; a claim watchers find implausible except with a pinch of Pakistani Khewra rock-salt.
and finally some plain facts

Analyst Vipin Narang, MIT-based nuclear analyst, writes that even as the majority of Pakistani strategists see the TNW mindset as providing ‘full-spectrum deterrence’ and a counterweight to deter Cold Start ambitions, others like former SPD, Brigadiers Naeem Salik and Feroz Khan doubt whether Pakistan has the ‘wherewithal for battlefield management and escalation control’. Analyst Micheal Krepon backs the majority global view that TNWs are ‘unwise’ and ‘strategically unsound’. This opinion is reinforced by simulation studies of TNW hit tank losses which have been found insignificant. This is because the overpressure of 45psi needed to destroy tanks will need a literal rain of TNWs which is not possible.
Let ‘tactical’ nuclear weapons be Pakistan’s favourite oxymoron even as the newly-formed Defence Planning Committee refines NFU/Cold Start. Work is also needed on our SIOP for the time when the nuclear armageddon dawns.
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Budget squeeze threatens Indian Army's preparedness for possible two-front war

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ARMS CRUNCH The army fears it won't have the money to pay for the replacements of obsolete INSAS rifles and light machine guns of the kind carried by these soldiers along the LoC. Photo: Chandradeep Kumar
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the use of helicopters as air cavalry was tested during the recently concluded exercise "Vijay Prahar" by the South Western Army Command
To enhance its defence capabilities, the Army tested the concept under which weaponised helicopters carry out combined action against the enemy in coordination with tanks and mechanised ground forces.
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This is a new concept for the Indian Army and it is aimed at reshaping land battle by defeating the enemy by offensive punch from the air in coordination with tanks on the ground.

“In the recently held offensive exercise 'Vijay Prahar' in Mahajan firing ranges near Suratgarh, the concept of 'Air Cavalry' was tried by the South Western command,” defence spokesperson Lt Col Manish Ojha told PTI.

The concept was implemented after a detailed deliberation, sand-model discussions and war gaming.

In normal battle scenario, attack helicopters are called in on requirement basis by forces moving on the ground to launch an attack where the ground forces are not able to neutralise the target due to any reason, including difficult terrain.

Under the 'Air Cavalry' concept, attack helicopters are fully integrated with tanks and mechanised ground forces.

A fleet of armed helicopters simultaneously flies in air and performs a number of tasks, including troop insertion in forward areas, on the spot aerial recce, launching attacks and it proves more powerful and a good speed in the action is achieved.

“This requires a very high degree of precision, coordination and continuous upgradation. It saves time and energy," another senior officer of the SW command said.

"The forces achieve more flexibility and fluidity in an operation and multitasking can be performed more quickly, swiftly and effectively and the ground commanders can act decisively, boldly and offensively,” the officer said.

Under this kind of arrangement, attack helicopters can engage targets in the shortest possible time and the mission can be accomplished in a very flexible and effective manner.

This concept can be executed in different kind of terrains depending upon the feasibility.

While the US used this concept in the jungles of Vietnam during the war from 1954-75, India tested it in scorching heat in desert terrain to sharpen its teeth.

The Army is gradually inducting helicopters equipped with ultra-modern sensors and high-precision weapons and therefore a need was felt to use the ‘Air Cavalry’ concept for increasing capabilities in monitoring and protecting both eastern and western borders of the country.
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Army finalises Rs 15,000-crore ammunition production project

Official sources told PTI that 11 private firms would be involved in the ambitious project, the implementation of which is being monitored by the top brass of the Army and the Defence Ministry.
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don't think its right to compare the US vietnam air cavalry tactics with the air-land-battle concept that is being talked about here, which is altogether different in terms of strategic objectives and its filter down to tactics in the battle space (also an US tactic). this is only possible through high degrees of reliable network centricity
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To keep Army 'fighting fit', govt finalises Rs 15,000 crore plan for domestic production of ammunition
NEW DELHI: Confronted with crippling operational shortages in ammunition stocks that would not last even 10 days of “intense fighting”, the defence ministry and Army are now finalizing a Rs 15,000 crore long-term plan to get the domestic private sector to manufacture seven different types of ammunition.

The aim is to develop capability in the private sector companies, which can set up joint ventures with foreign manufacturers, to bridge the gaps in the production capacity of the 41 factories of the Ordnance Factory Board. “This indigenization of ammunition production over a 10-year time-frame will gradually reduce our heavy import dependence,” said a senior official.

The government was rudely jolted out of its slumber after the terror attack at Uri in September 2016 when it found that the 13-lakh strong Army simply did not have certain categories of ammunition to undertake a full-blown war with “intense fighting” for 10 days.

Similar was the case with the IAF and Navy. This when the conventional norm is that the force should have adequate the war wastage reserves (WWR) to last 40 days of “intense fighting”.

Since then, contracts worth around Rs 24,000 crore for ammunition, spares, engines and other reserves have been inked or are in the process of being finalized, mainly with Russia and Israel, under the revenue financial powers delegated to the three Services as well as capital acquisitions to build up adequate stocks for at least 10 days of war.

Under the 19 contracts worth Rs 11,740 crore finalized for the Army, for instance, the force will get Smerch rockets, Konkurs anti-tank guided missiles, 125mm APFSDS (armour-piercing fin-stabilized discarding sabot) ammunition for its T-90S and T-72 tanks and other ammunition in the 2019-2020 timeframe, as earlier reported by TOI.

This has come as a big relief for the armed forces, which continue to maintain high operational readiness all along the 778-km Line of Control with Pakistan as well as the 4,057-km Line of Actual Control with China.

The new Rs 15,000 crore plan aims to get the Indian industry to manufacture ammunition for infantry weapons like UBGLs (under-barrel grenade launchers) and AGLs (automatic grenade launchers), 122mm Grad rockets, electronic fuzes and bi-modular charge systems for the artillery, and 30mm high-explosive incendiary ammunition for BMP-II infantry combat vehicles.

“The bids of 11 Indian private companies for these contracts to produce some initial quantities of ammunition were opened last month. The technical evaluation is now underway,” said the official.
Once the selected companies develop the capability to produce the required ammunition, contracts worth around Rs 15,000 crore over the next 10 years will be progressively awarded to them, said officials.


Earlier this year, Army vice-chief Lt-General Sarath Chand had told the parliamentary standing committee on defence that the Rs 21,338 crore allocated for modernization of his force in the 2018-2019 budget had “dashed our hopes” since it did not cater for even “committed payments” of Rs 29,033 crore for ongoing schemes and emergency procurements.

Even a CAG report tabled in Parliament last year had held the Army’s stocks of 121 (80%) of the 152 types of ammunition were below the authorization level required for 40 days of “intensive fighting” as per WWR norms.

“Further, availability of 83 (55%) types of ammunition was below the MARL (minimum acceptable risk level of ammunition stocks for 20 days) and 61 (40%) types were at a critical level (less than 10 days). Availability of high-calibre ammunition for tanks and artillery are in a more alarming state. Moreover, in the absence of fuses, 83% of the high-calibre ammunition currently held by Army is not in a state to be used operationally,” it had added.
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hero disowned by the nation deserves pardon
None other than General Thimayya, who was a defence witness stated, “Without Pritam, there would have been no Poonch, and with Poonch would have gone these carpets. Why are you crucifying this good soldier for nothing?”
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Prem wrote:https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 989159.cms
20,000 Indian soldiers sharpen military manoeuvres near Pakistan border

According to an Army spokesperson, the exercise Vijay Prahar employing more than 20,000 troops, cutting edge equipment and state of the art force multipliers is currently under way in the Mahajan Field Firing Ranges close to Suratgarh -- some 300 km from the closest Pakistani border post.
The month-long drill, which is concluding on May 9, is to promote and enhance jointmanship and integration between the Indian Air Force and the Army. "The exercise is aimed to orchestrate wide spectrum of threats which are planned to be tackled through high tempo joint air and land operation involving hundreds of aircraft, thousands of tanks and artillery pieces supported by real time intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance and just in time logistic support," the spokesperson said. <It will practice the troops in "penetrative manoeuvres across the obstacle ridden terrain under a nuclear umbrella. "The formations are practicing and operationalinal certain innovative concepts of operating in the network centric environment, integrated employment of modern day sensors with the weapon platforms, employment of attack helicopters in the air cavalry role and bold offensive of application of the Special Forces."

And that is how the advanced cold start 2.0 looks like ..right under the "limited" nuclear war ..calling pakis nuclear bluff
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Army's Hindi baatcheet
No. 04/2018
April 2018

https://indianarmy.nic.in/writereaddata ... 110518.pdf
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Uncertainty in defence ministry over key appointments.

There is uncertainty in the defence ministry over several top-level appointments, with orders still awaited on key posts to be vacated by the end of this month. The Vice-Chief of Army Staff, the head of the Defence Research and Development Organisation and the Master General of Ordnance (MGO) are yet to be announced as the Appointments Committee of the Cabinet (ACC) has still not taken a call on the proposed names.

Army Vice-Chief Lt Gen Sarath Chand is retiring by the end of this month. The officer was widely expected to be replaced by Northern Army commander Lt Gen Devraj Anbu, but with just a week to go, official orders have not been issued yet. Former Director General of Military Operations (DGMO) Lt Gen Ranbir Singh — the Army’s most visible face during the two surgical strikes in Myanmar a n d Pakistan - occupied Kashmir — is expected to move to Udhampur to lead the critical Northern Command that is engaged in both the hinterland and on the borders. While the norm is to announce these appointments in advance to enable smooth handing and taking over of the command, orders are still awaited at the Army HQ. Also in question is whether Lt Gen Mukund Naravane , who heads the training command at Shimla, will be moved to an operational command. The officer is next in line for the post of Army chief after Gen Bipin Rawat retires next year.

The post of the Master General of Ordnance (MGO), who is in charge of major procurements including ammunition, clothing and special equipment for soldiers, has also been vacant since early May. While Major General BV Rao is officiating as MGO, a replacement is not expected till September, when the next officer chosen for the post is relieved of a previous charge.

A tussle is also on in DRDO, with current chief Selvin Christopher set to retire by May-end. He is already on a year’s extension beyond the prescribed age and is believed to be gunning for another extension. While a final decision on it is yet to be taken, two scientists — G Satheesh Reddy, scientific advisor to the defence minister; and Sudhir Mishra, head of BrahMos Aerospace — are in the fray to replace Selvin Christopher.

As the deadline approaches, it seems, the government is still negotiating, with key stakeholders yet to reach an understanding on some of the critical proposals.
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Lalmohan wrote:don't think its right to compare the US vietnam air cavalry tactics with the air-land-battle concept that is being talked about here, which is altogether different in terms of strategic objectives and its filter down to tactics in the battle space (also an US tactic). this is only possible through high degrees of reliable network centricity

The Army spokesman repeatedly uses the words Air Cavalry to describe integral helicopters.

And keeps referring to US Army in Vietnam while the true analogue is NATO forces ALB in Europe.
Don't understand the need to compare the wrong thing.

I hope no one thinks these are flying tanks.
And doctrine to use is similar.

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After reading about Vijay Prahar, I think the usage of Air Cavalry is not to spook the Pakis or the US.
But intent is Air Land Battle.
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Gen Rawat is on an operation al inspection in J&K today
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ramana wrote:
Lalmohan wrote: don't think its right to compare the US vietnam air cavalry tactics with the air-land-battle concept that is being talked about here, which is altogether different in terms of strategic objectives and its filter down to tactics in the battle space (also an US tactic). this is only possible through high degrees of reliable network centricity
And keeps referring to US Army in Vietnam while the true analogue is NATO forces ALB in Europe.
Don't understand the need to compare the wrong thing.

I hope no one thinks these are flying tanks.
And doctrine to use is similar.
US and Nato Employment of Attack Helicopters in Europe was to kill Russian Armoured Thrusts (keyword Thrust not mass attack) and take out any recon.
US and Nato Employment of Other Helicopters in Europe was to shift mass and plug in gaps.

Soviet Employment of Attack Helicopters in Europe was to be flying tanks in front of Russian Armoured columns, more integrated with their armour than Nato. Establishment of beachheads using the Mil-24/25 was a classic.

US Employment of Other Helicopters in Vietnam was to again shift mass and change direction of thrusts by lifting large amount of infantry to either respond or to create a situation for the enemy to deal with.

The word airCav seems to have hit a note with someone in the reporting area and they love using it.
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Lt Gen Zorawar Chand Bakshi (Retd) passes away. May India be blessed with more such sons.
Lt Gen Zorawar Chand Bakshi (retd), one of India’s most highly decorated generals, is no more. He passed away in New Delhi at of 97.
Fondly known as “Zoru” by friends, Lt Gen Bakshi was decorated for gallantry with the Maha Vir Chakra, Vir Chakra, Mention-in-Despatches, besides being awarded the Param Vishisht Seva Medal for distinguished service. Those who knew him said he was a strict disciplinarian who remained an icon and a source of inspiration to the past and present generations of officers.
Gen Bakshi hailed from Gulyana village near Rawalpindi in Pakistan, where he was born in 1921. His father Bahadur Bakshi Lal Chand served with the erstwhile British Indian Army and was decorated with the Order of British India.
After graduating from Rawalpindi’s Gordon College in 1942, he was commissioned into the Baloch Regiment 1943. His first major engagement was against the Japanese in Burma in World War II, where he was Mentioned-in-Despatches for overcoming a heavily-fortified Japanese position.
After the liberation of Burma, he participated in the operations to liberate Malaysia from Japanese control, earning a fast-track promotion to the rank of a Major for his role. After Partition in 1947, he was transferred to 5th Gorkha Rifles of the Indian Army and soon after saw action during the Indo-Pakistan war of 1947-1948, where he was awarded the Vir Chakra in July 1948. In 1949, he received the MacGregor Medal, awarded to Indian armed forces personnel for valuable reconnaissance.
In the 1965 war, he was instrumental in the capture of the strategic Haji Pir Pass in the Uri Sector from Pakistan forces, for which he was awarded the Maha Vir Chakra. He was commanding a brigade given the difficult task of capturing Basali, Haji Pir and Kahuta, which was vital for the Uri-Poonch link-up. His citation states that throughout this operation, Brigadier Bakshi remained in the forefront and displayed a high standard of planning and tactical skill, combined with outstanding leadership, determination and camaraderie in sharing the hardships of his troops.
In the early 1960s, he led his battalion in a United Nations operation in Congo. In 1969-1970, he took part in counter-insurgency operations in the North-East. During the 1971 Indo-Pak war, he oversaw operations in the crucial Chicken’s Neck area in the Sialkot sector, capturing territory from enemy control. During his 36-year service, he commanded the Second Battalion of 5 GR, 68 Infantry Brigade, 8 and 26 Mountain Divisions and the C Corps at Chandimandir, before retiring in 1979. He also served as the Military Secretary at Army Headquarters.
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The soldiers’ General who fought all of India’s wars, obituary of Lt Gen Zorawar Chand Bakshi (Retd)
authored by Maj Gen Ashok Mehta (Retd) who served under him
India’s true military icon, Lt Gen Zorawar Chand Bakshi, unarguably India’s greatest soldier, did not die. He simply faded away. He deserved a farewell befitting the Bakshis of all times.
INDIA’S GREATEST wartime hero was laid to rest unsung at the ripe old age of 97 on May 24. It marked the end of an era. There was no ceremonial send-off, no ritual last rites at the crematorium, no last post, no rise, and only one wreath was laid. The omissions were not made good at the prayer ceremony on May 25. India’s true military icon, Lt Gen Zorawar Chand Bakshi, unarguably India’s greatest soldier, did not die. He simply faded away. He deserved a farewell befitting the Bakshis of all times. Without naming them, lesser soldiers were made much of, because they were politically connected. Zoru was not. He was a true professional and was completely apolitical.

For a government that trumpets its devotion to the men in uniform, and that too on its fourth anniversary, Zoru, as he was endearingly called, got a shabby send-off. No minister, not even a junior one, and no one from the military came for the prayer meeting or his cremation. Not even a tweet of condolence from the Prime Minister.

Could India’s military history have been written without Zoru Bakshi’s incomparable feats on the battlefield? He was the only officer to have fought India’s wars — all of them — in every rank, from Lieutenant to Major General. In World War II, as a subaltern in the Baloch Regiment, he was a pain in the neck for the Japanese advancing in Burma. He was awarded a Mention in Despatches for his skilful and successful ambushes.

After Partition, he joined the 2/5th Gorkha Rifles (Frontier Force) and, as a Brigade Major in the Kashmir war in 1947, was awarded the Vir Chakra. As a Major disguised as a fellow traveller, he trekked 400 miles across Tibet to win the first McGregor Medal for obtaining vital strategic intelligence. Time magazine wrote after his secret Tibet reconnaissance: “Bakshi is a short man with a tall ego”. It should have added: “and massive initiative”.

He commanded 2/5 Gorkha Rifles, the three Victoria Cross battalion, in Congo, sent on a peacekeeping mission, whose mandate changed to peace enforcement, i.e. from Chapter 6 to Chapter 7. Leading the battalion with his cane and cunning, he defeated the mercenary-led Katangese gendarmerie in battle after battle, ending up winning a Vishisht Seva Medal. But his most historic military feat was as a Brigade Commander: he captured the legendary Hajipir Pass and straightened the Uri-Poonch bulge in the 1965 war. The Maha Vir Chakra was added to the gongs on his chest. In 1971, as a Divisional Commander, he severed the Chicken’s Neck in the Jammu sector. After a distinguished record fighting war, he commanded the counter insurgency division in Nagaland where Zoru was feared by the insurgent commanders.

Zoru’s relentless battlefield heroics and strategic guidance ensured a period of no war. The soldiers’ General was promoted to Lieutenant General to command the premier 2 Corps, the largest single offensive force ever mustered for war. For someone with outstanding valour, he was a very shy man with an impish smile and infectious laughter. When not in uniform, he wore his trademark makhmali (velvet) Nepali cap designed by the battalion’s tailor, famously called Charlie. When the Siachen skirmishes were being fought after he had hung up his boots, strategic experts would seek his advice on the utility of holding Siachen Ridge. He would say: “India should give up Siachen altogether: but only on the condition that Pakistan deploys a brigade there”. So infructuous, he thought, was its strategic value.

Zoru has gone, and with him the art of battle and skills of soldiering of that vintage. The establishment should make up for its neglect of the grand old soldier by bestowing on him the rank of an honorary General for valour.
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Major Leetul Gogoi court of inquiry: Slow down...slow down, sketchy facts don't rule out possibility he's being set up





Major Leetul Gogoi court of inquiry: Slow down...slow down, sketchy facts don't rule out possibility he's being set up

India Bikram Vohra May 27, 2018


Before we throw Major Leetul Gogoi under the bus, it seems only fair to confirm exactly what was going on between him and this girl who no one is sure is a minor or not.

There are already conflicting reports on that score. From what we know so far, all that has happened is this officer and the girl of indeterminate age were ostensibly trying to check into a hotel in Srinagar when the police were summoned to prevent this earth-shattering development from occurring.

Not to be flip, but if hotel managements were so touchingly diligent, the hospitality industry would have ground to a halt.

One would think that this is the first time a man and a woman have checked into a hotel, an act needing a call to the cops who have been tracking the major since he hit the headlines for tying an alleged stone pelter to the bonnet of his military jeep and getting his boys out of a tricky situation.

Even the moral police in conservative systems are not so trigger happy but this check-in prompted the police to move in and save the day. The doubt that Gogoi was possibly being set up must stay on the table.

Also, in the greater scheme of things, the overreach is a minor blip and does not need the chief of the army to start giving statements of stringent intent. It is a local matter coming under local command and there is no need for the COAS to get involved to this degree.

It colours the court martial context and sounds as if an example is to be made of Gogoi for conduct unbecoming of an officer and a gentleman. He has already been sacrificed to appease some political agenda. This is not justice, it is politics.


This lady, whoever she is, was not kidnapped or bullied into accompanying Gogoi. No one caught Gogoi in flagrante delicto or in any such compromising situation. So far, the only crime seems to be that the hotel management thought it fit to call the cops on an army officer who is controversial and no favourite of the authorities in Jammu and Kashmir.

Unless we know what the motive was and who the girl is, there seems little cause to place the officer under house arrest, relieve him of his duties and establish grounds for a possible court martial. This is unholy haste and designed to generate prejudice before the fact.

We are ruining a career and a reputation with very little concern for all the facts and that is unfair and unacceptable.
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http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation ... 96564.html

Defence acquisition council approves procurement of thermal imaging (TI) night sights for rocket launchers.
“The TI sight for 84mm RL will be used by troops in operations to facilitate accurate and continuous engagement of moving and static enemy targets and destruction of field fortifications (bunkers) during hours of complete darkness,” the statement said. The night sight will enable troops to detect and recognise enemy tanks and soldiers’ movement during night and engage them with greater efficiency.
Furthermore, the effect of camouflage and concealment will be drastically reduced as RL detachments will be able to ascertain location of enemy taking cover behind foliage and thin-walled constructions with greater ease
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7 private firms in race to supply ammunition to the Army
HYDERABAD: The Indian Army is evaluating the technical bids submitted by 7 private sector companies, including 2 companies from Hyderabad—HBL Power Systems Ltd and Premier Explosives Ltd—to supply different types of ammunition, sources with direct knowledge of the procurement process said on Thursday.

The sources told TOI that the Indian Army had given the Request for Proposal (RFP) to the seven companies earlier this year. The technical evaluation of the bids was ongoing, the sources said.

The army was seeking to buy several types of ammunition, including 30mm High Explosive Incendiary (HEI), ordnance for the 122 mm GRAD BM rocket launcher, bi-modular charge system for the 155 mm artillery guns, 125 mm high-velocity flat-trajectory armour-piercing fin-stabilized discarding-sabot traced cartridge (FSAPDA), 30mm VOG 17 fragmentation grenades to be used in AGS-17 mounted automatic grenade launcher, 40 mm high explosive and high explosive dual purpose (HEDP) for rocket launchers, and electronic fuses.

“The Indian Army needs to replace the ammunition deemed to be too old for use in combat situations. So far, the army was importing the ammunition it needed from overseas. The foreign firms usually refurbish old ammunition and sell it to our army. Refurbishing could include replacing the propellant in the ammunition. Rarely, however, do the suppliers from overseas supply new ammunition because such an exercise involves high cost,” the sources said.

Apart from the possibility that the vendors from overseas could be supplying refurbished ammunition, the army was also seized of the fact that the government was promoting the manufacturing sector in the defence space.

“The government’s Make in India also played a major role in the army’s decision to look for local players to supply the ammunition, though the local industry could have foreign companies as their technology partners,” the sources said.

The sources said that the army was aware of the fact that local industry did not have the technical wherewithal to manufacture the ammunition in India, and therefore needed partners who could bring such expertise to India.

The seven companies that had submitted their bids include Saarloha, a company owned by the Kalyani group of Pune, Maharashtra, AAN Engineering Industries Ltd, a subsidiary of Rico Auto Industries Ltd, Economic Explosives Ltd, a part of Solar Industries India Ltd of Nagpur, Maharashtra, Mahindra Defence Systems Ltd of the Mahindra group, Bharat Forge of the Kalyani group and HFCL.

While Saarloha has Arsenal J.S. Co of Bulgaria as its OEM (original equipment manufacturer) as its partner, EEL’s partner is MSM of Slovakia, and AAN Engineering’s partner is SFTE Spetstechno Export of Ukraine. The three companies have bid for the supply of 30mm HEI and HET.

EEL has also partnered with the Defence Research and Development Organization (DRDO) for the supply of 122 mm FR RKT. Other bidders for the 122 mm FR RKT include Mahindra Defence Systems Ltd, which has MSM of Slovakia as its OEM, HBL Power Systems Ltd of Malakpet, Hyderabad, Telangana State, which has EdePro of Belgrade, Serbia as its partner.

Premier Explosives Ltd of Secunderabad has partnered with Simmel Difesa Nexter Systems SA of France for the supply of BMCS HZ & LZ ammunition. The other bidder in this category is EEL, which has partnered with DRDO.

AAN, Bharat Forge and HFCL had bid for the supply of electronic fuses. The army has cancelled the bids for the 125mm FSAPDS, the sources said.
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We are the 3rd largest Economy in the world in PPP GDP terms, Fifth largest in Nominal one, fastest growing economy of the world and have record foreign exchange reserves and yet we are truly F**K*D as we cant increase our defense spending.

India Army is said to pare down rifles order to 250,000.

Paucity of central budget may force soldiers to buy uniforms on their own.

Mind you this when we have a semblance of dharmic forces at the centre. God save us. :shock:
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Vips wrote:We are the 3rd largest Economy in the world in PPP GDP terms, Fifth largest in Nominal one, fastest growing economy of the world and have record foreign exchange reserves and yet we are truly F**K*D as we cant increase our defense spending.

India Army is said to pare down rifles order to 250,000.

Paucity of central budget may force soldiers to buy uniforms on their own.

Mind you this when we have a semblance of dharmic forces at the centre. God save us. :shock:
Both articles quote only unnamed official so cant be sure of how authentic it is, could also be paid articles
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http://pib.nic.in/newsite/PrintRelease. ... lid=179858
Army Persons to buy Personal Clothing

The Seventh Pay Commission has awarded monetary compensation to jawans for allowing purchase of personal clothing items of uniform to be purchased under arrangement to be made by the Army. An annual remuneration of Rs 10,000/- has been paid to all jawans in lieu of selected items of personal clothing. Accordingly, Army has made arrangements for purchase of quality cloth to be made available through CSD outlets and stitching to be carried out under unit arrangements or any other means that the individual jawans may wish to get their clothing stitched as per authorized specifications. This provision is applicable to Central Armed Police Forces as well. It is, therefore, incorrect and inappropriate to single out Army on this issue through inadequately researched articles in the media.
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This article is a mumbo-jumbo of off the record chit chat. Orders from OFB has to be reduced, because they don't meet the orders. Why order 250k shells every year, when they never produce 250k shells!

There is a nonsense practice of paying up full upfront for annual orders, which OFB does not meet. This was used by HAL to show "profits" earned from interest by putting this money in the bank!

Regarding the rifles, no one pays upfront for major purchases. Beside 250k was always the planned import numbers. The uniform issue has been clarified already.
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A question on the following photo. Are these two units like LRDG type units?

Rakesh wrote:Awesome photo!

https://twitter.com/indiandefence11/sta ... 4589332481 --> Ultimate peace through ultimate firepower. 10 Para SF Desert Raiders Commandos seated on their Gypsy-based Light Strike Vehicle while a Mi-35 Hind provides Close Air Support. Apart from 3 Para SF, 10 Para SF is one of the two specialized Desert Warfare units in the Indian Army.

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ramana wrote:A question on the following photo. Are these two units like LRDG type units?
Rakesh wrote:Awesome photo!

https://twitter.com/indiandefence11/sta ... 4589332481 --> Ultimate peace through ultimate firepower. 10 Para SF Desert Raiders Commandos seated on their Gypsy-based Light Strike Vehicle while a Mi-35 Hind provides Close Air Support. Apart from 3 Para SF, 10 Para SF is one of the two specialized Desert Warfare units in the Indian Army.
Much more than LRDG. Better analogy would be SAS. LRDG missions would be subset of what 10 para sf can do.
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This could be old one already posted



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Old one.. posting for records..

GOVT OF INDIA
Invitation of Bids for Supply of Spares of TANGUSKA WEAPON SYSTEM
https://www.hcilondon.in/pdf/RFP%20for% ... 250435.pdf
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Directorate OF INDIGENISATION – EXPRESSION OF INTEREST (EOI)
DEVELOPMENT AND MANUFACTURE OF SUB-SYSTEMS WEAPON/EQUIPMENT
OF INDIAN ARMY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH RUSSIAN INDUSTRY
https://indianarmy.nic.in/writereaddata ... 220817.pdf
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STANDARDS REQUIRED FOR SAFETY &
SECURITY OF ARMY PERSONNEL
http://ficci.in/events/23506/ISP/Major_ ... ,_Army.pdf
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